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[00:00:02]

WELCOME. I'D LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER AND WOULD ASK THAT THOSE IN ATTENDANCE JOIN US IN RECITING THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

[Roll Call]

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TONIGHT. AS YOU'LL SEE, WE ARE DOWN 2 COUNCIL MEMBERS TONIGHT, BUT WE STILL HAVE A QUORUM WITH COUNCIL MEMBER RICKS AND COUNCIL MEMBER PERSIAN JOINING ME HERE TONIGHT.

SO THE FIRST THING WE WILL DO IS LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THE AGENDA AND APPROVE TONIGHT'S AGENDA INCLUDING THE CONSENT AGENDA,

[Approval of Agenda]

[Consent Agenda]

WHICH ARE ITEMS THAT ARE CONSIDERED TO BE ROUTINE WILL BE ENACTED BY ONE MOTION, NO DISCUSSION UNLESS A COUNCIL MEMBER OR STAFF MEMBER REQUESTS.

AND THEN THE ITEM WOULD BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR SEPARATE DISCUSSION AND ACTION TONIGHT'S CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS ARE AS FOLLOWS.

CITY COUNCIL MINUTES FROM OUR LAST MEETING. CLAIMS AND BILLS.

UPCOMING WORK SESSION SCHEDULE. 2026 FUND TRANSFERS.

THAT'S RESOLUTION 7689. CLOSING OF FUND 406 PERMANENT IMPROVEMENT REVOLVING FUND.

THAT'S RESOLUTION 7690 FINAL PAY REQUEST FOR OUR BROWN ROAD PROJECT.

THAT'S 25-002 AND A VARIANCE FOR 4755 NORTH SHORE DRIVE.

THAT'S RESOLUTION 7691. ANY COMMENT OR ANYBODY, ANY REQUESTS TO REMOVE ANY OF THOSE ITEMS FOR SEPARATE DISCUSSION.

ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE OUR CONSENT AGENDA.

I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT. ALL RIGHT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? NOT ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSITION? HEARING NONE THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. AND NOW WE WILL HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING FOR OUR WELLHEAD PROTECTION PLAN.

[8) Well Head Protection Plan Public Hearing]

AND WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO ADDRESS US ON OUR WELLHEAD PROTECTION PLAN, PLEASE? GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL. IT'S GREAT TO BE HERE IN FRONT OF YOU ALL THIS EVENING.

MY NAME IS ANGIE SMITH. I AM A CONSULTANT ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANT WITH BOLTON AND MINK.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH THE CITY OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS ON UPDATING THE WELLHEAD PROTECTION PLAN.

SO NO FORMAL PRESENTATION FOR YOU ALL THIS EVENING, BUT I WILL HIT A COUPLE HIGHLIGHTS.

AND THEN ALSO TONIGHT WE HAVE ROBIN HARE, WHO'S FROM MINNESOTA RURAL WATER, ANOTHER TECHNICAL EXPERT.

SO IF THERE IS ANYTHING THAT I CAN'T ANSWER, SHE'S HERE SO I CAN PHONE A FRIEND AS NEEDED, WHICH IS FANTASTIC. SO LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH ADAM AND BRANDON AS WE CONTINUE FACILITATING THIS PROCESS FOR YOU ALL.

SO JUST A FEW QUICK UPDATES. THE CURRENT WELLHEAD PROTECTION PLAN UPDATE IS DUE OCTOBER OF THIS YEAR.

SO OUR INTENT IS TO HAVE EVERYTHING FINALIZED AND THROUGH THE AGENCY REVIEW PRIOR TO THAT OCTOBER TIME FRAME.

OKAY. CURRENTLY WITH THE CITY'S 4 MUNICIPAL WELLS, THIS WILL INITIATE THE NEXT 10 YEARS OF THE WELLHEAD PROTECTION PROGRAM.

AND FOR THE CITY OF ORONO, LOW VULNERABILITY MEANS YOU DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT TO WORRY ABOUT.

WE'RE PRIMARILY LOOKING AT WELLS AND LOOKING AT UNSEALED WELLS THAT ARE WITHIN THE VARIOUS DRINKING WATER SOURCE MANAGEMENT AREAS.

AND FOR THE CITY, THERE ARE ACTUALLY 2 DRINKING WATER SOURCE MANAGEMENT AREAS.

THERE'S A NORTH AND A SOUTH TOTALING APPROXIMATELY 870 ACRES.

AND WITHIN THOSE 2 AREAS, THERE IS APPROXIMATELY 39 WHAT WE CALL POTENTIAL CONTAMINANT SOURCES.

AND FOR THE LOW VULNERABILITY SYSTEM THAT YOU ALL HAVE.

THAT IS PRETTY MUCH JUST LOOKING AT ANY WELLS WITHIN THOSE AREAS OR WITHIN THOSE REGIONS.

AS WE LOOK THROUGH AND WHAT THAT LOW VULNERABILITY MEANS, IT JUST MEANS IT TAKES A REALLY LONG TIME.

IF SOMETHING HAPPENS AT THE SURFACE LEVEL TO TRAVEL TO THE GROUNDWATER AND POTENTIALLY CONTAMINATE YOUR DRINKING WATER SOURCE.

SO THE AQUIFER, AS WE CONTINUE ON, SOME OF THE NEXT STEPS, WILL BE TO PUSH INTO PLAY THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN.

SO THAT'S WHAT THE CITY WILL PRIMARILY BE FOLLOWING OVER THESE NEXT 10 YEARS.

AND BECAUSE EVERYTHING WILL BE IN THIS IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, THAT ALSO CREATES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY TO APPLY FOR GRANT FUNDING THROUGH THE MINNESOTA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH TO HELP SOME OF THESE ACTION ITEMS. SO IT COULD BE EVERYTHING FROM UPDATING PUBLIC EDUCATION MATERIALS.

IT COULD BE FOR, WELL, SEALING PROGRAMS, THOSE TYPES OF ACTIVITIES AND EVENTS THAT CAN GET GRANT FUNDING THROUGH THE STATE AGENCIES.

SO AS FAR AS WE'RE LOOKING AT NEXT STEPS, REALLY LOOKING AFTER TONIGHT'S PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION SESSION AND THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IF ANYBODY DOES HAVE COMMENT OR ANY QUESTIONS FROM YOU ALL, WE'LL DO FINAL UPDATES FOR THE WELLHEAD PROTECTION PLAN.

[00:05:07]

WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS ALL UP TO SNUFF AND THAT ADAM AND BRANDON BOTH HAVE A CHANCE TO DO FINAL REVIEWS BEFORE WE DO SUBMIT THAT TO THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH.

AND THEN THE STATE AGENCIES HAVE 90 DAYS FOR THEIR AGENCY REVIEW PERIOD.

FOLLOWING THAT REVIEW, THEY WILL COME BACK WITH AN APPROVAL.

I AM ANTICIPATING APPROVAL, AND WE'LL GO AHEAD AND INITIATE THE IMPLEMENTATION PROGRAM FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS OF THE CITY'S WELLHEAD PROTECTION PLAN.

SO WITH THAT, AGAIN, VERY HIGH LEVEL, I'M HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL MAY HAVE OR IF THERE ARE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS, WE WILL DEFINITELY GET THOSE RECORDED THIS EVENING. ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? JUST JUST ONE. I LIVE IN AN AREA WHERE WHERE WE HAVE OUR OWN PRIVATE WELL AND WHEN YOU SAY, YOU KNOW, YOU SORT OF CANVASS THE AREA, ARE YOU LOOKING AT EACH AND EVERY PRIVATE WELL, IN ORONO OR LOOKING AT THE NUMBER OF WELLS OR HOW DO THOSE FIGURE INTO YOUR ANALYSIS? YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. SO TYPICALLY WE'RE REALLY FOCUSING IN ON THOSE DRINKING WATER SOURCE MANAGEMENT AREAS, THE ACTUAL DELINEATION OF WHAT'S CALLED THE [INAUDIBLE] AND THAT'S MORE OR LESS WHERE LIKE GROUNDWATER, SURFACE WATER FLOWS AND GROUNDWATER COMES INTO PLAY.

SO WE WOULDN'T WORRY AS MUCH ABOUT PRIVATE WELLS OUTSIDE OF THE RIGHT NOW.

IT'S GOOD FOR THE CITY TO HAVE THAT RESOURCE AND THAT INFORMATION AND KNOW WHERE THOSE ARE.

THOSE ARE ALLOCATED. HOWEVER, FOR ANY WELLS WITHIN THE [INAUDIBLE] THOSE ARE THE ONES, AND I UNDERSTAND A LOT OF THERE'S A LOT OF PRIVATE WELLS WITHIN THE [INAUDIBLE].

NOT EVERYTHING'S ON PUBLIC WATER RIGHT NOW. SO AS LONG AS THE CITY CONTINUES WITH THAT METHODOLOGY PRIMARILY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS ANYTHING THAT'S NO LONGER BEING USED OR IS NOT NECESSARY. AND IF THAT CREATES OPPORTUNITY TO SEAL THOSE WELLS.

THERE'S JUST ONE LESS WORRY FOR THE THE AQUIFER.

YEAH. YEAH. DO YOU GUYS LOOK AT OTHER THINGS THAT ARE FLOWING INTO THE AQUIFER? IS THAT WHERE A LOT OF THE TESTING TAKES PLACE TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NO CONTAMINANTS FROM? I DON'T KNOW FROM THINGS THAT WERE THERE PRIOR OR IS THAT WHAT, WHAT? YES THERE IS. YEAH. THERE IS GROUNDWATER QUALITY MONITORING.

AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS DONE BY THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE CITY.

SO PART ONE OF THE WELLHEAD PROTECTION PLAN REALLY LOOKED AT THAT WATER QUALITY AND WATER WATER QUANTITY.

THIS PHASE, THE PART 2 THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING THIS EVENING, IS REALLY LOOKING AT THE POTENTIAL CONTAMINANT SOURCES BASICALLY SUMMARIZING WHAT THE WATER QUALITY HAD BEEN LOOKING AT PREVIOUSLY IN THAT PART ONE PLAN THAT WAS COMPLETED A FEW MONTHS BACK.

AND THEN ALSO THAT IMPLEMENTATION ITEMS MOVING FORWARD AND HOW WE CAN GET THE CITY SUPPORTED THROUGH GRANT FUNDING AND OTHER OPPORTUNITIES.

OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE? I'LL SIT DOWN AND YEAH, IF NOT, I THINK WE CAN DECLARE THAT THE PUBLIC HEARING IS COMPLETED AT 6:10.

AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE INFORMATION AND FOR YOUR WORK WITH US.

NOW IT'S TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS ON GENERAL ITEMS. NOW WE DIDN'T NEED TO APPROVE ANYTHING ON THAT.

IT WAS SIMPLY THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS THAT CORRECT? WE HAD TO RECEIVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS, RIGHT? RIGHT. OKAY. SO WE CAN MOVE ON TO TO REGULAR PUBLIC COMMENTS.

[Public Comments]

THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR FOR CITIZENS TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL.

YOU WON'T NECESSARILY HAVE A DIALOG WITH US, BUT IT'S YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ON ANY ITEMS THAT ARE COMING BEFORE THE COUNCIL OR OTHER THINGS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST. SO WITH THAT, I WILL OPEN IT UP FOR FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

GOOD EVENING, RICHIE ANDERSON. I LIVE AT 3205 CRYSTAL BAY ROAD, AND I JUST WANT TO COMMENT.

I'VE SENT YOU SOME STUFF ON THE BUDGET FOR 2027 FROM THE LMCD.

I WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT VOTED NO ON IT BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S GOING ON.

BUT ANYWAY, SO I JUST WANT TO I'M GIVING YOU INFORMATION OBVIOUSLY CAN DO WITH WHAT YOU WANT UNLESS YOU GIVE ME A DIRECTION.

I'M GUESSING IN THE PAST I'VE BROUGHT SOME OF THESE ITEMS FORWARD AND AND NOBODY COMPLAINS.

SO GUESS WHAT? WE'RE GOING TO GO TO A LEVY OF 440,000.

AND IT WAS A AND THANKS TO ADAM. ADAM, THANK YOU FOR SENDING ME THAT STUFF YOU GOT FROM.

BECAUSE NO, NOBODY ELSE GOT THAT. I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT.

BUT YOU SENT IT TO ME BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I'M INTERESTED IN A CHART IN THERE THAT WAS VERY MISLEADING.

THEY SAY THAT THE LEVY FROM 2014 TO 2027 IS 40%.

IT'S ACTUALLY 80% BECAUSE WE HAD AN EIS LINE ITEM FOR EIS, WHICH IN THE PAST THEY WERE WEED HARVESTING.

[00:10:03]

THEY SPENT $100,000 FOR AN EIS STUDY WITH THIS, WHICH TOLD THEM THAT THEY DON'T WEED HARVEST ANYMORE.

WE GOT RID OF THE WEED HARVESTERS. THAT LINE ITEM WAS $75,000.

LATELY, STARTED OUT AT 95. IF ANYBODY READ THE CHART THAT I SENT OUT.

AND SO WE GOT RID OF THAT AND WE WENT TO A $300,000 LEVY, WHICH WAS WHERE IT WAS FOR QUITE A WHILE.

THEY PUT THE $75,000 EIS LEVY IN THERE, AND WE DON'T DO THAT ANYMORE.

AND SO LAST YEAR IT WENT TO 375 AND THEY TOLD EVERYBODY THAT'S WHAT IT ALWAYS WAS, BUT IT WASN'T.

AND NOW THEY'RE GOING TO 440, WHICH THEY SAY IS ONLY 40% SINCE 2014.

IT'S 80%. IT'S IT'S A TRAVESTY. I FEEL LIKE OBVIOUSLY I'VE TURNED INTO A WHISTLEBLOWER, RIGHT? I DON'T CARE. AND YOU KNOW, I'M THE ONLY ONE THAT GOT THE BIG PICTURE.

I WAS I WANTED TO DEBATE THE CHAIR AT THE LAST MEETING.

SHE CUT ME OFF BECAUSE SHE TOLD ME AFTERWARDS THAT SHE WANTED TO GO HOME AND WATCH THE BASKETBALL GAME.

I MEAN, I AM WILLING TO GO FORWARD, BUT I'M ALSO WILLING TO SHUT UP IF I HAVE YOUR SUPPORT.

WE'LL GO FORWARD. IT'S KIND OF LIKE THE PERMIT OVER THE PERMIT FOR THE NORTH ARM AND OUR LANDINGS.

I NEED A QUADRUPLE RAISE TO BE DOING ANYTHING ELSE.

IT'LL STILL BE ZERO. SO I WANT YOU TO KNOW I'M IN THE GAME.

THANK YOU. AND IT'S IT'S RIDICULOUS. AND I'M THE ONLY ONE, TO BE QUITE HONEST WITH YOU, THAT IS MAKING AN ISSUE OF IT.

HOWEVER, I'VE SENT A BUNCH OF STUFF OUT TO THE MAYORS AND ALSO THE FINANCE FOLKS ON EACH CITY AND TELL THEM WHAT'S GOING ON.

THE EMAIL I SENT YOU TODAY WITH THAT CHART, I'LL BE SENDING THAT TO THE MAYORS, CITY MANAGERS.

THEY DIDN'T SEND IT TO YOU. THEY SENT IT TO THE CITY MANAGER, WHICH IS FINE.

NOW I KNOW THE PROGRAM. I'LL SEND IT TO CITY MANAGERS, MAYOR AND THE FINANCE PEOPLE.

SO WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS. THANKS. APPRECIATE YOUR WORK.

ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? ALL RIGHT. WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE ONLY NON CONSENT AGENDA ITEM ON OUR

[9) LA26-000018, 1080 Heritage Lane, Variance]

AGENDA TONIGHT. AND THAT'S ITEM 9. WHICH IS A PROPOSED VARIANCE FOR 1080 HERITAGE LANE.

MR. CARNEY I BELIEVE THAT'S YOUR THAT'S YOUR MATTER TO INTRODUCE TO US PLEASE.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I'LL WALK YOU THROUGH THIS VARIANCE AT 1080 HERITAGE LANE.

ULTIMATELY WHAT THIS IS, IS A REAR SETBACK VARIANCE.

I'LL SHOW YOU IN THE COMING SLIDES. JUST TO RECAP WHAT THE PROJECT IS AND WHAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION DISCUSSED ONLY THIS LAST WEEK.

THIS PROPERTY IS ZONED LR-1A. THAT'S FAIRLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE THAT'S OUR 2 ACRE ZONED DISTRICT WITHIN THE LAKESHORE.

BUT THIS PROPERTY IS ONLY 1 ACRE IN SIZE. I WILL NOTE THAT ALTHOUGH WE'RE TALKING ABOUT JUST A DECK, THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSING A WIDE RANGING PROJECT THAT INCLUDES LANDSCAPING IMPROVEMENTS, A POOL AND SUCH.

THAT IS, STUFF THAT STAFF CAN IMPROVE ADMINISTRATIVELY AT.

JUST THE DECK. THAT'S A PORTION OF THEIR PROJECT IS SUBJECT TO THIS VARIANCE IN TERMS OF EXISTING CONDITIONS.

JUST SHOWING YOU THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE THAT THIS DECK WOULD BE PROPOSED OFF OF.

WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE IS THE EXISTING CONDITIONS.

THE DECK THAT IS THERE CURRENTLY KIND OF COMING UP CLOSE TO THAT SETBACK LINE OF ABOUT 50FT FROM THE REAR, NOTING THIS FAIRLY SUBSTANTIAL GRADE HERE AS WELL.

IN TERMS OF PROPOSED CONDITIONS, WE'RE LOOKING AT A NUMBER OF THINGS.

AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, A POOL, LANDSCAPING AND A PATIO AREA AND AN EXPANSION OF THE DECK UP TOP THAT ALSO GOES INTO THAT SETBACK LINE BY ABOUT 10.2FT. SOME RENDERINGS ALSO PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT IN TERMS OF WHAT THE PROJECT WOULD LOOK LIKE IF EVERYTHING IS PUT IN AS PROPOSED. WHERE STAFF HAD DIFFICULTY ON THIS 1 IS IN REGARDS TO THE PRACTICAL DIFFICULTY CRITERIA.

I WILL NOTE THAT THE APPLICATION ITSELF DOES MEET AT LEAST HALF, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THE APPLICABLE VARIANCE CRITERIA.

JUST MAINLY NAMING. AND THIS WAS THE BIG POINT MADE BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION LAST WEEK, IS THAT THE 2 ACRE SETBACKS DO CREATE SOME CONSTRAINTS ON THIS PROPERTY WHEN LOOKING FOR A 50 FOOT SETBACK, WHEN AT ONE POINT THE PROPERTY IS ONLY ABOUT 150FT DEEP.

IT DOES CREATE SOME CONSTRAINTS FOR AN APPLICANT OR AN OWNER FOR THAT MATTER.

STAFF DID NOTE THAT THERE IS A BIT OF CHALLENGING TOPOGRAPHY IN THE REAR SLOPES, UP PRETTY HEAVILY FROM THE BACK OF THE HOUSE AS WELL.

[00:15:07]

WE DO NOTE THAT THE DECK CAN ALMOST FULLY BE SCREENED BY THE GRADING AND THE LANDSCAPING THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING, JUST SHOWING, ALTHOUGH IT DOESN'T SHOW VERY CLEARLY HERE.

SOME OF THE THE TREES THAT ARE IN THE BACKGROUND, THAT IT WILL BE A FAIRLY INTENSIVE PROJECT THAT WILL KIND OF ENCASE A LOT OF THIS YARD SPACE. BUT WHERE STAFF DID NOT FIND THAT THE APPLICATION MET, THE CRITERIA WAS WE IDENTIFIED THAT A CONFORMING BUILDING ENVELOPE REALLY DOES EXIST ON THIS PROPERTY. IT'S JUST BEING COVERED BY OTHER PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS, SUCH AS A POOL OR PATIO. SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS TYPE OF SPACE.

A DECK COULD BE CONSTRUCTED IN THIS AREA AND MEET REQUIREMENTS AND NOT NECESSITATE A VARIANCE.

AND IN GENERAL, THAT SIZE INCREASE IN THE SETBACK WASN'T JUSTIFIED IN THE APPLICATION BY PRACTICAL DIFFICULTIES.

AND THE FINAL STATEMENT THAT I LEFT THE PLANNING COMMISSION REGARDING THE PRACTICAL DIFFICULTIES IS.

ALTHOUGH THE ENVELOPE IS RESTRICTIVE, AMPLE AREA EXISTS TO ALLOW FOR THAT LARGER DECK THAT MEETS SETBACK REQUIREMENTS.

TO SUMMARIZE THIS AGAIN IS A REAR SETBACK VARIANCE 10.2FT ENCROACHMENT INTO THE REAR.

OUR STAFF HAS NOT RECEIVED ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THIS APPLICATION.

OUR STAFF, BASED ON THE PRACTICAL CRITERIA, EVALUATION ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE RECOMMENDS DENIAL OF THE VARIANCE.

HOWEVER, THE PLANNING COMMISSION FELT DIFFERENTLY FOR A COUPLE OF THOSE SUPPORTING BULLET POINTS I PROVIDED. THEIR DISCUSSION WAS REALLY FOCUSED THERE, AND THEY VOTED TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL ON A VOTE OF 5 TO 2.

SO WHY I'M COMING HERE A WEEK LATER IS I'M LOOKING FOR FINDINGS, ULTIMATELY IN DRAFTING A RESOLUTION TO COME BACK FOR YOUR JULY 13TH MEETING THAT WILL CONCLUDE MY PRESENTATION. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.

THANK YOU. QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL. I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU, MATT.

I WENT OUT TO THE PROPERTY AND TOOK A LOOK AND I TEND TO AGREE WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON THIS BASED UPON WHAT I SAW, WHICH WAS YOU KNOW, FROM A VISIBILITY STANDPOINT, THE HOMES TO EACH SIDE AND THE HOME TO, I GUESS YOU'D SAY THE SOUTH EAST OF THE HOME CERTAINLY DOESN'T SEE THIS.

THERE'S A DROP OF ABOUT 15FT IN THE REAR OF THAT HOME THAT OBVIOUSLY IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO SHIELD THE POOL AND THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S TAKING PLACE THERE. I THINK IT'S THE ONLY PART OF THIS PROJECT THAT REQUIRES A VARIANCE.

AND YOU KNOW, FROM MY STANDPOINT, IF IT WAS ON ONE ACRE LOT, WE WOULDN'T HAVE HIM BE EVEN HAVING THIS CONVERSATION.

SO I'M IN FAVOR OF GRANTING THIS VARIANCE TO THE, THIS FOR THIS PROJECT.

I WILL SAY, MR. MAYOR, TO INTERRUPT, THE APPLICANT IS HERE.

IF YOU DID WANT TO SPEAK WITH THEM ABOUT THE PROJECT.

THANK YOU. YEAH. IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME FORWARD, THAT'D BE GREAT.

YES. HELLO. I'M OWEN WITH MOMS DESIGN BUILD, AND I DESIGNED THE SPACE.

YOUR ADDRESS TOO? I LIVE IN MOUND 2721 TYRONE LANE.

THAT'S GREAT. THANKS. YEAH. I GUESS, YEAH. TO ADDRESS MAYBE THE, I GUESS WHAT HAS BEEN SAID.

WE DID KIND OF LOOK AT A LOT OF DIFFERENT LAYOUTS FOR THE DECK AND IT JUST, IT, IT DIDN'T EVER FEEL LIKE IT WAS GOING TO FUNCTION AS WELL WITH KIND OF CONFORMING TO THAT ENVELOPE. IT'S REALLY TO ALLOW STAIRS DOWN THERE.

CORRECT. WHICH I MEAN, IS THERE A FUNCTIONAL WAY TO PUT STEPS IN TO THAT AREA THE WAY IT'S BEEN DESIGNED WITHOUT BUMPING IT OUT? HOW WOULD YOU DO IT IF WE SAID NO? HOW WOULD YOU GET DOWN TO THAT AREA? HOW WOULD I GET DOWN TO THE AREA? THERE HAVE BEEN THERE WERE I MEAN, I HAD SAID THIS AT THE LAST MEETING, BUT I DON'T VENTURE INTO VARIANCES WILLY NILLY.

SO I WOULD SAY I LOOKED AT A LOT OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS. WE LOOKED AT MAYBE BUILDING OUT LANDSCAPING TO TRY TO MEET THE STRUCTURE AND, YOU KNOW, BRIDGE THAT GAP THAT WAY. IF YOU PUT THE STAIRS IN FRONT OF THE SPACE, YOU KIND OF CUT OFF THE POOL.

AND THEN ANY MORE THAT WE PUSH TO THE DECK THAT WAY, WOULD A SQUEEZE IT BETWEEN THE POOL AND THE DECK.

AND ALSO IT WOULD CUT OFF LIGHT TO THE LOWER LEVEL.

YEAH. WE'RE TRYING TO AVOID. OKAY. OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ARCHITECT.

NO, I WENT AND LOOKED AT THE PROPERTY TODAY. I MEAN THE STEPS IN THE BACK.

I AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER PERSIAN. THEY'RE KIND OF HIDDEN FROM THE VIEW FROM THE NEIGHBORS TO THE IT'S TO THE EAST THERE.

I WAS MORE CONCERNED WITH WHAT WAS GOING ON TO THE SOUTH, BUT YOU GUYS WILL HANDLE THAT IN-HOUSE JUST BECAUSE OF THE HUGE SLOPE AND RETAINING WALLS.

AND I'M ASSUMING YOU'RE LOSING ALL THE LARGE TREES THAT ARE ON THE SIDE WITH THE IN BETWEEN THE NEIGHBORS.

[00:20:03]

AND ON THE SOUTH SIDE, THERE WERE THERE WERE FOUR BIG TREES.

BUT WHEN I, I WASN'T EXPECTING THAT AFTER I WATCHED THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THEN WENT AND VISITED THE PROPERTY.

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? BECAUSE THERE WAS SUCH A SLOPE AND THERE WERE BIG TREES UP ON TOP.

SO I'M ASSUMING THAT WILL ALL GO IN. THERE'S GOING TO BE.

SO IS THERE A BIG RETAINING WALL, IF YOU DON'T MIND ME ASKING? I KNOW IT'S NOT PART OF THE VARIANCE, BUT TO THE SOUTH.

YEAH. SO PRETTY MUCH IF YOU KIND OF CAN SEE THE, THE PINK KIND OF SUPERIMPOSES WHERE WE'RE IMAGINING WE'RE GOING TO PUT THE WALLS AND THEN UNDERNEATH THERE IS THE EXISTING CONDITIONS AND YOU CAN SEE THAT BOULDER WALL RIGHT NOW THAT EXISTS KIND OF TURNS OFF.

SO WE'RE PRETTY MUCH GOING TO DISASSEMBLE PART OF THAT BOULDER WALL AND THEN JUST CONTINUE IT STRAIGHT TO HOLD THAT DIRT BACK.

YEAH. YEAH. SO THOSE 2 WALLS WOULD JUST BE CONTINUED STRAIGHT.

AND YEAH, I GUESS WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO REMOVE AS LITTLE TREES AS POSSIBLE TO GET IT ACCOMPLISHED.

AND WE'RE PLANNING ON PLANTING A LOT OF TREES.

IT LOOKS, IT LOOKS LIKE IT, IT LOOKS NICE. SO I, I TOO WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF IT.

YEAH. AND I TEND TO AGREE WITH YOU AS WELL. I THINK IT WAS PRETTY PERSUASIVE TO ME THAT, THAT IF IT WAS ZONED AS A 1 ACRE LOT, IT IS A 1 ACRE LOT. WE WOULD NOT EVEN BE TALKING HERE TODAY.

ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE TOPOGRAPHY THERE, THERE'S, THIS IS NOT GOING TO BOTHER ANYONE.

IT'S IT'S A PRETTY BIG HILL BEHIND THERE. I ALSO WENT OUT AND LOOKED AT IT AND YEAH, I JUST DON'T SEE A REASON TO OPPOSE WHAT THE WHAT THE PROPERTY OR WHAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION DETERMINED. SO ANYWAY. THANK YOU. MAKE A MOTION.

STEVE. YEAH, YEAH, I'LL I WILL MAKE A MOTION DIRECTING STAFF TO DEVELOP A RESOLUTION APPROVING THESE VARIANCES.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND IT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSITION? MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. ALL RIGHT. CITY ADMINISTRATOR, ENGINEER.

[City Administrator/Engineer Report]

REPORT. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING FOR US, MR. EDWARDS? NO.

JUST TO SAY THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY DEEP INTO BUDGET PLANNING.

SO THIS WEEK AND NEXT ARE SPENT. MOST AT LEAST, MAGGIE AND HIS TIME WITH ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS GOING THROUGH VARIOUS BUDGET ELEMENTS.

SO THAT'S KIND OF THE FOCUS. ANY REPORT FROM COUNCIL I SHOULD ASK OUR CITY ATTORNEY FIRST?

[Mayor and Council Report]

YEAH. NO. NO REPORTS. OKAY. HOW ABOUT THE COUNCIL MEMBERS? ANY REPORT? NO UPDATE FOR ME. I WAS AT PLANNING COMMISSION.

THEY WENT THROUGH SEVERAL DIFFERENT TOPICS. ONE OF THEM WAS THIS.

AND THAT WAS A GOOD MEETING. AND I'LL BE ATTENDING THE LEAGUE OF MINNESOTA CITIES AND ROCHESTER, ALONG WITH MR. EDWARDS AND THE MAYOR WEDNESDAY THROUGH FRIDAY OF THIS WEEK.

SO IT SHOULD BE INTERESTING. YEAH, I'M ATTENDING AS WELL.

AND WE'LL PRESUMABLY HAVE SOME THINGS TO REPORT ABOUT COMING OUT OF THAT.

BUT WITH THAT, I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN AT A ALMOST RECORD TIME.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN, AND I WILL SECOND IT.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. WE ARE ADJOURNED AT 6:24.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.