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ALL RIGHT. I AM TOLD THIS CLOCK ON THE WALL IS A MINUTE OR TWO SLOW.
[Roll Call]
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
[Approval of Agenda]
FEEDBACK ON THE AGENDA, OR WHETHER WE CAN CONSIDER THE AGENDA APPROVED BEFORE WE GO INTO THE CONSENT AGENDA.I MOVE FOR APPROVING THE AGENDA. IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT? I'LL SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
AYE. ANY OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. NEXT WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA, WHICH ARE
[Consent Agenda]
ITEMS THAT ARE CONSIDERED ROUTINE WILL BE ENACTED IN ONE MOTION AND WITH NO DISCUSSION, UNLESS A COUNCIL MEMBER OR STAFF REQUESTS THE ITEM TO BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR SEPARATE DISCUSSION AND ACTION. TONIGHT'S CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS ARE MINUTES FROM OUR LAST MEETING.CLAIMS AND BILLS SINCE OUR LAST MEETING. ANNUAL APPOINTMENTS - RESOLUTION 7693.
FOR HIRING PUBLIC WORKS SEASONAL EMPLOYEE. EXCUSE ME.
NUMBER 5. DONATION FOR PARK BENCH AT BIG ISLAND PARK.
NUMBER 7. WATER SUPPLY PLAN UPDATE PROPOSAL AWARD.
NUMBER 8 IS A CONTRACT AMENDMENT FOR WATER TOWER MAINTENANCE SERVICES.
NUMBER 9 IS A DECLARATION OF PUBLIC DRAINAGE AND UTILITY EASEMENT FOR MIDCO.
10 IS A VARIANCE FOR 1080 HERITAGE LANE. THAT'S RESOLUTION 7694.
AND NUMBER 11 IS A TIME EXTENSION FOR A SOLICITOR.
DO WE HAVE ANY REQUESTS TO REMOVE ANY OF THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS TONIGHT? I'D LIKE TO REMOVE ITEM NUMBER EIGHT FOR DISCUSSION.
OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? IF NOT, I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA MINUS NUMBER 8. I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION. I'LL SECOND.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
[12) Tour de Tonka Bike Ride]
AND I WOULD INVITE YOU TO THE TO THE PODIUM TO TELL US ABOUT IT.THANK YOU. OKAY. YOU GOT IT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL. MY NAME IS BEN MCLAIN. I'M HERE REPRESENTING MINNETONKA COMMUNITY EDUCATION, AND I'M HERE TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THE UPCOMING TOUR DE TONKA COMMUNITY BIKE RIDE. SO THE TOUR DE TONKA IS A MINNETONKA COMMUNITY LED EVENT, AND IT'S A GREAT TEAM THAT WE HAVE OVER THERE AT MINNETONKA, AND WE'VE BEEN PARTNERING WITH THE GREAT CITY OF ORONO FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, AND EXCITED TO BE BACK AGAIN THIS YEAR. HERE IS JUST A FEW OF OUR SPONSORS.
WE'VE GOT EVERYTHING FROM SHIELDS PROVIDING SOME BIKE MECHANICS.
DOMINO'S OF COURSE, PROVIDING SOME FOOD AND PIZZA TO THE RIDERS AT THE END OF THE RACE.
BOYER DOES A GREAT JOB WITH OUR STARTING AND FINISHING ARCH, AND FIRST STUDENT DOES OUR SAG VEHICLES OR OUR BUSSES TO GO PICK UP RIDERS WHO MAYBE CAN'T MAKE IT TO THE END. JUST A QUICK RECAP.
ON LAST YEAR'S TOUR DE TONKA, WE HAD ALMOST 2300 RIDERS FROM 22 DIFFERENT STATES, BUT 94% OF THOSE WERE FROM MINNESOTA CITY. SO IT'S DEFINITELY A LOCAL RIDE AND WELL REPRESENTED IN THIS COMMUNITY.
ONE THING WE'RE VERY PROUD OF EVERY YEAR WE DO A SURVEY FOR ASK FOR FEEDBACK FROM THE RIDERS.
SO A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT MAYBE ARE NEW IN 2026.
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NOTHING TOO MAJOR, BUT WE DO WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT THIS IS A COMMUNITY RIDE.IT'S NOT A RACE. AND SO WITH THAT, WE HAVE CREATED A FEW THINGS THAT ARE NEW THIS YEAR.
ONE IS THE DESIGNATED CHEER ZONES. SO TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE'S SAFE, WE'VE IDENTIFIED A FEW SPOTS LOCALLY IN MINNETONKA WHERE WE'RE GOING TO SET UP A CHEER ZONE TO ALLOW FAMILIES AND FRIENDS TO COME TOGETHER IN A SAFE LOCATION WHERE THERE'S PARKING, WHERE THEY CAN SEE A LOT OF THE RIDERS COME BY AND CHEER THEM ON.
WE'RE ALSO GOING TO DO A POST RIDE FAMILY ZONE AT THE HIGH SCHOOL IN MINNETONKA, AND THAT WILL BE COMPLETE WITH THINGS LIKE BOUNCE HOUSES, FACE PAINTING, AND OTHER EVENTS THAT WILL HOPEFULLY BRING THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER AND KIDS OUT TO WATCH THEIR PARENTS IN THE RIDE.
HERE'S KIND OF A MAP OF THE RACE. IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO LAST YEAR.
WE HAVE FOUR DIFFERENT DISTANCES, ONLY TWO OF WHICH WILL COME THROUGH ORONO.
OUR LONGER DISTANCES ARE 40 MILE AND OUR 58 MILE.
SO A LITTLE UPDATE ON THAT. IT'S ALWAYS AT THE TRINITY LUTHERAN CHURCH.
IT'S A STEEL DRUM BAND AND THEY ARE SUPER FUN AND SUPER ENTERTAINING.
I'VE SEEN THEM LIVE BEFORE, SO I'M EXCITED FOR THEM TO BE AT THE ORONO REST STOP.
I GUESS JUST FOR AN UPDATE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ELIMINATED THE 100 MILE RACE, SO THERE IS A FEW LESS RIDERS THIS YEAR, NOT TOO MANY LESS. BUT IT MEANS THAT THE RACE TIME WILL BE A LOT SHORTER, AND THE WINDOW WHERE WE'RE COMING THROUGH ORONO MIGHT BE EVEN A LITTLE BIT SHORTER STILL.
SO WE'RE PLANNING ON KEEPING THIS REST STOP OPEN FROM ABOUT 7:30 UNTIL ABOUT 10:00, BUT WE EXPECT THE RIDERS TO BE IN A MUCH SHORTER WINDOW THAN THAT. SO THIS LOCATION WILL HAVE LIVE MUSIC. IT WILL HAVE FOOD, RESTROOMS AND BIKE MECHANICS.
AND SO FAR, TO DATE, WE'VE DONATED $105,000 AND COUNTING EVERY YEAR THAT WE DO IT.
SO IT'S A GREAT PARTNERSHIP AND ONE THAT WE VALUE QUITE A BIT.
WE ALWAYS NEED VOLUNTEERS. AND SO VOLUNTEERS KIND OF MAKE THIS EVENT HAPPEN.
IT'S KIND OF A SMALL TEAM THAT WE HAVE AT MINNETONKA COMMUNITY ED.
AND SO WE REACH OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND COMMUNITIES THAT WE RIDE THROUGH AND ASK FOR VOLUNTEERS, OF WHICH ANYONE HERE COULD GO AHEAD AND STILL SIGN UP IF YOU WANT TO SCAN THE QR CODE.
BUT WE'RE PRETTY WELL STAFFED IN ORONO. A LOT OF YOU COME OUT AND SUPPORT.
AND WE'VE GOT A GOOD GROUP WITH THE CHURCH THAT COMES OUT AND HELPS SUPPORT THE REST STOP, BUT ALWAYS LOOKING FOR MORE. AND IT'S PART OF WHAT MAKES THIS EVENT SO SUCCESSFUL IS WE COULDN'T DO IT WITHOUT THE VOLUNTEERS, AND IT'S WHAT MAKES IT SAFE AND ENJOYABLE FOR THE RIDERS.
SO THEY DO A FANTASTIC JOB WITH OUR VOLUNTEERS AND WE'RE SUPER EXCITED AGAIN THIS YEAR TO AGAIN HAVE AS MANY VOLUNTEERS AS WE DO AND AS MANY PEOPLE AS WE DO SUPPORTING IT. SO A COUPLE OF THANK YOUS. NUMBER ONE, FIRST AND FOREMOST IS OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT AND SAFETY PARTNERS.
I MEAN, SAFETY IS OUR NUMBER ONE GOAL. AND THEN WE NEED THOSE PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE LAW ENFORCEMENT AND DIFFERENT SAFETY PARTNERSHIPS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE EVENT GOES OFF WITHOUT A HITCH. AND SO FAR, SO GOOD.
AND WE WANT TO GIVE A SPECIAL SHOUT OUT TO ORONO POLICE DEPARTMENT'S OWN OFFICER, STEVE STURM DOES A GREAT JOB PARTNERING WITH US AND MAKE SURE THAT RIDERS STAY SAFE IN THIS AREA, COORDINATING HIS OFFICERS AT ALL OF THE DIFFERENT INTERSECTIONS AND ROUTES THAT WE RIDE THROUGH THE TOWN.
SO, EVERY YEAR, IT'S ON THE FIRST SATURDAY IN AUGUST.
THIS YEAR, THAT'S SATURDAY, AUGUST 1ST. SO IT'S AN EXCITING TIME.
IT'S A VERY WELCOMING AND BEAUTIFUL CITY, AND THIS COMMUNITY IS VERY WELCOMING AND SUPPORTIVE OF US, AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. THIS RIDE, LIKE I SAID, IS A COMMUNITY RIDE, AN EVENT.
AND WE COULDN'T DO IT WITHOUT THE SUPPORT OF YOUR GREAT CITY.
SO, THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY, AS SOMEBODY WHO HAS RIDDEN IN THAT EVENT A NUMBER OF TIMES, IT IS VERY WELL ORGANIZED, VERY SAFE. THE REST STOPS ARE ALWAYS WELL STOCKED AND FRIENDLY PEOPLE AND ENCOURAGING PEOPLE.
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SO I REALLY LOVE WHAT YOU'RE DOING. I'D LOVE TO SAY I'M DISAPPOINTED THAT YOU CUT OUT THE 100 MILE RIDE, BECAUSE I HAVE DONE THAT IN THE PAST, BUT I DON'T THINK I COULD DO THAT THIS YEAR, SO MAYBE IT'S NO BIG DEAL.BUT YEAH, JUST CURIOUS. NOW, THAT USED TO START IN A DIFFERENT LOCATION IN AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, IS THAT NO LONGER GOING TO BE BIFURCATED LIKE THAT? SO EVERYBODY'S GOING TO START AT THE SAME PLACE? YEAH. EVERYTHING NOW WILL START AND END AT THE HIGH SCHOOL.
SO AGAIN, TRYING TO TIE IT BACK WHERE IT'S A COMMUNITY RIDE AND WE WANT PEOPLE TO BE TOGETHER.
SO SEPARATING THOSE CENTURIES OR THOSE 100 MILERS WAS NOT OUR IDEAL.
BUT NOW THAT WE'VE SHRUNKEN THAT DOWN A LITTLE BIT, IT ALL GETS TO START AND STOP AT THE SAME PLACE.
GREAT. WELL, I WOULD ENCOURAGE ANYBODY IN OUR COMMUNITY TO SIGN UP AND RIDE ON THIS.
IT'S REALLY A, LIKE I SAID, FUN, WELL ORGANIZED DAY AND REALLY A BLESSING FOR OUR AREA TO HAVE THIS EVENT. SO THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU, COUNCIL. THANK YOU.
SO DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO DO SO TONIGHT? SEEING NOBODY POP UP, WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM 8, WHICH WAS PULLED FROM THE AGENDA.
[8) Contract Amendment for Water Tower Maintenance Services]
THAT'S THE CONTRACT AMENDMENT FOR THE WATER TOWER MAINTENANCE SERVICES.I GUESS I WOULD. YEAH, I JUST HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE FUNDING SOURCE FOR THAT.
IT WASN'T NOTED IN THE RECAP OF THE COVER PAGE.
THE FUNDING FOR THAT COMES OUT OF. THE FIRST FOUR YEARS COMES OUT OF THE WATER OPERATING BUDGET.
THE FIFTH YEAR, WHICH IS THE REHABILITATION YEAR, COMES OUT OF THE WATER CAPITAL BUDGET OR FUND.
IT'S ALL WATER. IT'S A WATER RELATED ITEM. THAT WAS MY ONLY QUESTION, SO.
OKAY. ANYBODY CARE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT CONTRACT AMENDMENT? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONTRACT AMENDMENT FOR WATER TOWER MAINTENANCE. I'LL SECOND IT.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
AYE. ANY OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT TO OUR ATTENTION.
NEXT WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM 13, WHICH IS A VARIANCE FOR 1101 FERNDALE ROAD WEST.
[13) LA26-000019, 1101 Ferndale Road West, Variances ]
AND THAT I WOULD TURN IT OVER TO MISS CURTIS.THANK YOU. THIS APPLICATION REQUESTS VARIANCES FOR HARDCOVER SETBACK FROM THE LAGOON, REAR SETBACK AND STRUCTURAL COVERAGE TO ALLOW CONSTRUCTION OF A 22X22 FOOT ADDITION TO THE EXISTING HOME. THE PURPOSE OF THE ADDITION IS TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL GARAGE SPACE AND ADDITIONAL LIVING SPACE IN THE HOME. THE PROPERTY IS ALREADY NON-CONFORMING WITH RESPECT TO HARDCOVER AND STRUCTURAL COVERAGE, AND ALTHOUGH IT DOES NOT RESULT IN AN INCREASE IN THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF HARDCOVER, HARDCOVER VARIANCE IS REQUIRED BECAUSE THE PROPOSAL IS CONVERTING EXISTING NONSTRUCTURAL HARDCOVER INTO STRUCTURAL BUILDING COVERAGE.
STRUCTURAL COVERAGE WILL INCREASE FROM 2234FT² TO 2724FT², WHERE 2000FT² IS ALLOWED. A DETAILED ANALYSIS OF THE VARIANCE REQUEST WAS INCLUDED IN THE PLANNING REPORT IN YOUR PACKET.
BOTH WERE INCLUDED IN THE PACKET FOR EXHIBITS AND I HAVE THEM TO DISPLAY.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION HELD A PUBLIC HEARING ON JUNE 15TH.
THEY VOTED 5 TO 2 TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE APPLICATION AS APPLIED.
PUBLIC COMMENTS WERE RECEIVED AND ARE ALSO INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET.
STAFF REVIEWED THE REQUEST AND CONTINUES TO RECOMMEND DENIAL OF THE APPLICATION AS PROPOSED.
COUNCIL ACTION TONIGHT IS TO REVIEW THE APPLICATION AND DISCUSS THE VARIANCE REQUEST AND DIRECT STAFF TO PREPARE A RESOLUTION REFLECTING YOUR DECISION FOR ADOPTION AT YOUR NEXT MEETING. APPLICANTS ARE HERE, AS IS ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS WHO WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT I HAVE THE EXHIBITS FROM THE PACKET IF YOU'D LIKE THEM DISPLAYED OR HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THEM.
STAND FOR QUESTIONS. OKAY. DO YOU WANT TO GET THE APPLICANT FOR QUESTIONS TO BEGIN WITH, PLEASE? HELLO. MY NAME IS WADE SCHMIDT. MY ADDRESS IS 291 BERNARD STREET, EAST.
WEST SAINT PAUL. AND I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE CLIENT, 1101 FERNDALE ROAD WEST.
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I JUST BRIEFLY WANTED TO TOUCH ON THE PROJECT SCOPE.AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS KEEP THE SAME WIDTH OF THE FRONT OF THE FACADE OF THE HOUSE AS WE HAVE, AND EXTEND 22FT TOWARDS THE ROAD SIDE, WHICH IS ALSO THE LAGOON SIDE.
SO IF YOU HEAR LAGOON ROAD SIDE AND THEN MAJOR LAKE SIDE IS THE OTHER SIDE.
I WANTED TO JUST SAY THAT WE'VE RELOOKED AT OUR OPTIONS FOR THAT.
AND ONE OF OUR MAIN REASONS FOR EXPANDING THE GARAGE IS JUST FOR MODERNIZING THE HOUSE AND PUTTING TWO FAMILY SIZED VEHICLES IN THE GARAGE. AND WE HAD PHOTOS AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THEY WERE SAYING, JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE ADDING DEPTH DOESN'T HELP YOU WITH DOORS BANGING INTO EACH OTHER OR, YOU KNOW, PARKING NEXT TO EACH OTHER. SO WE ACTUALLY TOOK THAT AND AT THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO REMOVE TWO COLUMNS ON EACH SIDE AND ADD TWO ADDITIONAL FEET TO GET AN 18 FOOT GARAGE DOOR. YEAH. SO IF YOU SEE THERE'S TWO COLUMNS ON EACH SIDE OF THE GARAGE DOOR.
AND THEN THE SPACE ADDED TO THE BACK OF THE GARAGE DEPTH WOULD CLEAR THE SIDES OUT.
AND THAT REALLY IS THE POINT OF THE ADDITION OF THE GARAGE.
AND THERE'S LIVING SPACE ABOVE IN THE UPPER LEVEL AND THE DEPTH OF THE GARAGE WOULD GIVE STORAGE FOR KAYAKS AND LAWN MOWER, OR GARBAGE CANS. I WAS GOING TO SAY GARAGE CANS, BUT THAT'S REDUNDANT.
AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE INDOOR STORAGE FOR THAT SO THAT WE'RE NOT CREATING EITHER AN ANCILLARY STRUCTURE OR HAVING RACKS OF STUFF OUT EITHER ON THE LAKE SIDE OR THE ROADSIDE LAGOON SIDE. AND THAT'S ALSO KIND OF WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO FOCUS A BIT ON WHAT WE'RE NOT DOING. SO WHAT WE'RE NOT DOING IS DOING ANYTHING TO THE LAKESIDE.
WE'RE KEEPING THE FOOTPRINT EXACTLY AS IT IS.
IF ANYTHING CHANGES, IT WOULD JUST BE A REFRESH IN MATERIALS LIKE WHEN WE'RE REDOING THE SIDING AND THE TRIM, THE LAKESIDE WOULD GET UPDATES TO MATCH ALL THAT, BUT THE FOOTPRINT AND EVERYTHING WOULD STAY THE SAME THERE.
AND THE SIDES OF THE HOUSE WOULD ALSO STAY THE SAME.
SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO ONE NEIGHBORS OR THE OTHER, JUST TOWARDS THE ROAD SIDE.
AND THAT WAS WHAT WE THOUGHT THE BEST SOLUTION WAS TO STAY AS RESPECTFUL TO THE LITTLE ENVELOPE WE HAVE TO WORK WITH THAT WE HAD, AS YOU CAN SEE THERE, SO THAT BOX IS WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GO STRAIGHT OUT TOWARDS THE ROAD AND NOT SIDE TO SIDE OR TO THE BACK TO THE LAKESIDE AT ALL. MELANIE, COULD YOU GO TO THE COLOR DIAGRAM? SPEAKING ABOUT THE. THANK YOU. SO WE'RE THE GREEN ONE IN THE MIDDLE, AND THE LAGOON SIDE IS RIGHT IN THAT TOP KIND OF CONCAVE SECTION OF THE BLUE.
SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE ENCROACHING ON.
AND THEN THE OTHER SIDE GOES THROUGH. SO YOU CAN SEE WE BASICALLY JUST HAVE A LITTLE TRIANGLE, TECHNICALLY, IF IT WENT JUST HOW THE RULES WORK.
AND I JUST WANTED TO TOUCH A LITTLE BIT ON THE CODE, WHICH SEEMS TO MAKE SENSE, YOU KNOW, FOR A LOT UNDER 10,000FT², YOU GET 2000 MAX STRUCTURAL BUILDING COVERAGE AND THE EXISTING HOUSE IS OVER THAT.
OUR PROPOSED HOUSE WOULD BE OVER THAT. AND I MEAN, I GET IT.
AND I THINK THAT MAKES SENSE FOR LOTS THAT ARE IN A CITY OR A NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE ALL OF THE HOUSES KIND OF LOOK SIMILAR IN SIZE, AND LOTS ARE SIMILAR AND THEY'RE LANDLOCKED, BASICALLY, BECAUSE ONE OF THE BIGGEST CHALLENGES WE HAVE IS WE'RE NOT ABLE TO DIG DOWN AND GET A BASEMENT. AND THE ADDITION THAT WE'RE PUTTING UP ABOVE THE GARAGE IS JUST, YOU KNOW, ADDING MORE LIVING SPACE PLACES FOR PEOPLE TO STAY, LOUNGE, THINGS THAT WE WOULD EASILY BE ABLE TO PUT IN A BASEMENT, UTILIZING THAT FOOTPRINT IF THAT WAS IN A NEIGHBORHOOD OF THE SIMILAR SIZE OR AWAY FROM WATER,
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SO. BUT SINCE THE WATER TABLE IS SO TIGHT, WE LITERALLY CAN'T GO LOWER.AND I ALSO WANTED TO TOUCH ON A COMMENT THAT WAS MADE BY ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS AT THE PLANNING MEETING OF POSSIBLY GOING UP, AND WE WOULD REQUIRE A VARIANCE FOR THAT AS WELL TO GO UP THREE STORIES.
AND WHAT THAT ACTUALLY DOES THOUGH, IS THAT EITHER PUTS US BACK INTO SOME KIND OF PRETTY SERIOUS REENGINEERING AND LOOKING IF OUR SLAB FOUNDATION COULD EVEN SUPPORT THAT, WHICH I'M GUESSING IT COULDN'T.
AND THEN WE'RE LOOKING AT A COMPLETE TEARDOWN OF THIS HOUSE, AND IT'S A FAMILY HOME THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO KIND OF KEEP AS IS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, WHILE MODERNIZING AND ADDING EVERYTHING THAT THE CLIENTS WOULD LOVE TO KEEP ABOUT IT.
SO I JUST WANTED TO RETOUCH ON THAT POINT THAT WAS BROUGHT UP AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
AND THOSE ARE REALLY THE LIMITATIONS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET PAST.
WE'RE NOT TRYING TO GO UP AND WE'RE NOT TRYING TO GO TOWARDS THE LAKE.
AND OUR BEST POSSIBLE SOURCE WAS JUST STAY RESPECTFUL AND KIND OF STAY IN LINE WITH THE NEIGHBORING GARAGE, WHICH WERE THE SAME DISTANCE AWAY FROM THE STREET AS 1105 IS, AND WE'RE ACTUALLY ABOUT 23FT FURTHER IN FROM OR OUT FROM THE LAGOON SIDE THAN THE NEIGHBOR IS.
SO A DISCUSSION OF ENCROACHING ON THAT LAGOON SIDE, WE'RE ALREADY WELL PAST AN ESTABLISHED BUILDING THAT'S THERE, AND WE'RE 25FT FURTHER FROM THE ROAD THAN THE PERMITTED BUILDING ON THE ORANGE SIDE, SO.
SPEAKING OF WHICH, THERE'S NOTHING THERE NOW, IS THAT.
CORRECT. IT'S A PROPOSED HOUSE. HAS THAT GONE THROUGH? YES. THERE'S BEEN A BUILDING PERMIT ISSUED FOR THAT HOME.
OKAY. OKAY. AND NOTHING THAT THEY'RE PLANNING TO DO GETS IMPACTED BY OUR DECISION TONIGHT? OR DOES IT? ON THE ORANGE LOT? YEAH. NO. OKAY.
NO. SO I GUESS, IN SUMMARY, THAT WAS JUST KIND OF WHAT WE ARE PLANNING TO DO AND WHAT WE KIND OF THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, OUR BEST COURSE OF ACTION TO STAY, YOU KNOW, AS RESPECTFUL AS WE COULD, KNOWING WE WERE GOING TO HAVE TO BREAK SOME RULES TO DO ANYTHING ON THAT LOT. SO IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME WHILE I'M UP HERE, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.
OTHERWISE, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO MY CLIENTS AS WELL.
QUESTIONS? I THINK AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THEY MENTIONED THAT THIS HOUSE WAS ORIGINALLY LIKE A GUEST QUARTERS OR SERVANT QUARTERS? IS THAT WHY IT'S KIND OF PLACE WHERE IT IS NEXT TO THE OTHER HOUSE AT 1105? I GUESS I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE HISTORY ON THAT.
IT WOULD SOUND RIGHT THAT WOULD SOME KIND OF ANCILLARY STRUCTURE AT SOME POINT VERSUS A HOUSE, BECAUSE THAT'S WHY IT DOESN'T HAVE ITS OWN DRIVEWAY OR OWN REAL LOT LINES.
AND THAT'S ANOTHER REASON WHY IT'S SO DIFFICULT TO JUDGE THIS BY ITS SIZE AND NOT BY ITS PROXIMITY TO THE OTHER LOTS ON THE ADJACENT SIDES. IT SEEMED LIKE FROM THE RIGHT UP, AND AS WAS DISCUSSED IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THAT THERE MAY HAVE BEEN AN ISSUE WITH THE NEIGHBOR IN TERMS OF TURNING CARS AROUND TO BE ABLE TO GET IN AND OUT OF THERE.
YES. YEAH, THE NEIGHBOR DIRECTLY ADJACENT. CHIP, WHO'S HERE TONIGHT, HE'S GOING TO COME UP AND SPEAK. ALSO WE CAN. SO THERE'S MY ROUGH ATTEMPT AT JUST SHOWING A DIAGRAM OF THE.
SO THE BLUE IS THE PART OF THE DRIVEWAY THAT'S INSIDE OUR LOT LINE.
AND THEN THAT'S MORE TAUPE IS THE DRIVEWAY THAT'S NOT INSIDE OUR LOT LINE.
AND JUST A QUICK EXAMPLE OF WHERE PEOPLE COULD PARK AND HOW THEY COULD TURN AROUND.
AND THERE'S, I MEAN, A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS YOU CAN GET OUT OF THERE AND NOT, YOU KNOW.
AND AS I APPRECIATE THE CONCERN, WE JUST FEEL AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE SAME AS PARKING AND DRIVING ANYWHERE ELSE OR THE SHARED DRIVEWAY IS A CONCERN, REGARDLESS OF THIS PROPOSED DESIGN OR NOT.
IS THERE ENOUGH ROOM FOR THEM TO BACK UP AND GO IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION OF THE.
YEAH, THERE IS. YEP. THERE'D BE PLENTY OF ROOM TO TURN THE OTHER WAY TOWARDS THE PERMITTED SIDE, THAT ORANGE SIDE THAT I WAS SHOWING YOU, AND THEN DRIVE OUT THE OTHER WAY AS WELL.
IT LOOKED LIKE A LARGE ARBORVITAE KIND OF BLOCKING YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SEE.
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1105 WAS BACKING OUT AT THE SAME TIME AS YOU WERE BACKING OUT.I GUESS I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT. OKAY. THAT'S ALL RIGHT.
I'M SURE THE NEIGHBOR WILL. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
AND YOU LIVE AT THE EXISTING 1101? 1101 IS THE HOUSE THAT I GREW UP IN.
OKAY.OKAY. I CAN READ IT. SO LET ME BEGIN WITH MY THANKS TO THE ORONO CITY COUNCIL AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE DEDICATED STAFF FOR YOUR SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY.
SORRY. SURE. I CAN DO IT. TAKE YOUR TIME. OKAY.
MARK AND I ARE VERY COMMITTED TO BEING GOOD NEIGHBORS.
SO WHY ARE WE HERE TODAY? YOU HAVE BEEN PROVIDED WITH A VAST AMOUNT OF MATERIALS, BUT BASICALLY WE HAVE A COMPLETELY NONCONFORMING LOT THAT PRETTY MUCH BREAKS ALL OF THE RULES IN THE BOOK. THIS HOUSE, AS IT EXISTS, WAS NOT BUILT TO ACCOMMODATE THE NEEDS OF A CONTEMPORARY FAMILY.
ADDITIONALLY, IN ANOTHER EFFORT TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE APPROPRIATE STORAGE SPACE IN THE GARAGE TO CONTAIN ALL OF THE MATERIALS AND TOYS THAT GO ALONG WITH LAKESIDE LIVING.
I FEEL CONFIDENT THAT EVERYONE WOULD PREFER THESE THINGS AREN'T JUST STREWN ABOUT.
IN MAKING THIS REQUEST, WE DID NOT WANT TO PUSH THE ENVELOPE AND ASK FOR MORE THAN WHAT IS NEEDED.
WE ARE GRATEFUL TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THEIR THOUGHTFUL DISCUSSION AND INSIGHTS ON THIS PROJECT, AS WELL AS FOR THEIR VOTE IN OUR FAVOR, AND WE HOPE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL WILL ALSO BE IN OUR FAVOR TO ALLOW US TO CONTINUE OUR FAMILY LEGACY.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS WHILE WE HAVE YOU?
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ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANKS. WOULD YOU LIKE WOULD YOU CARE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL? THANK YOU. MY NAME IS CHIP TRUITT AND I LIVE NEXT DOOR IN THE HOUSE YOU CAN'T SEE.IN FACT, IN THE DRAWINGS THERE, THEY SHOW A TREE THAT WOULD BE ON OUR YARD ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE HOUSE, AND ALL THOSE BUSHES ALONG THE LEFT SIDE THAT CONTINUE ON INTO OUR YARD, BECAUSE IT'S NOT A STRAIGHT BOUNDARY THERE. THEY ALSO SHOW PAVED DRIVEWAY IN ONE PICTURE TO THE LEFT OF THE PROPOSED GARAGE. EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT PAVED TODAY.
THEY SHOW A DRIVEWAY THAT'S PAVED. THAT IS NOT PAVED TODAY.
AND WE WERE TOLD, DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT ASKING FOR A PAVED DRIVEWAY BACK THEN.
ANYHOW, IT'S A LOT TIGHTER THAN IT LOOKS. SECOND, THE WANNER PROPERTY HAS BEEN BUSY MARKING THINGS, AND I'M ASSUMING THEY'RE GOING TO START IN THE NEXT 2 TO 3 WEEKS FROM WHAT I GATHER.
AND YOU SAY THEY GOT A BUILDING PERMIT. NOW THERE'S A LOT OF ACTIVITY.
WE USED OUR YARD TO STAGE THINGS, AND THE ONLY WAY I CAN THINK OF THAT ANNIE AND MARK CAN STAGE THINGS, IS TO BRING A BARGE IN AND FILL THEIR LAKEFRONT PROPERTY ON THE LAKE SIDE RATHER THAN ON THE BACK BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE DIGGING.
WHAT'S WORSE, THE ARCHITECT OR ENGINEER, WHO I ASSUME IS AN ARCHITECT WHO DID THOSE BEAUTIFUL RENDERINGS, MENTIONED THAT IT'S GOING TO BE SLAB ON GRADE.
I'M SURE IT WILL BE. WE WERE REQUIRED TO PUT IN 50 PLUS PILINGS.
THEIR ORIGINAL HOUSE WAS BUILT BEFORE PILINGS WERE DEMANDED, AND I'M ASSUMING THAT THEY WOULD PROBABLY NEED PILINGS IF THEY'RE GOING TO EXTEND THE SLAB, ESPECIALLY SINCE THEY'VE HAD SINKHOLES UNDER THAT PART OF THE DRIVEWAY THAT WE'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN HELPING FILL.
AND THEN THERE WAS A COMMENT BY THE ARCHITECT A MOMENT AGO THAT HE DOESN'T THINK THE FOUNDATION WOULD SUPPORT EXPANDING WITH DORMERS TO THE MAIN PART OF THE HOUSE. AND HE SAID, I GUESS, WELL, I MEAN, I CAN GUESS AS WELL AS HE CAN GUESS, AND I GUESS IT PROBABLY WOULD. NEITHER ONE OF US KNOWS.
AND I JUST FEEL LIKE ALL OF THIS IS BEING PUSHED AHEAD WITHOUT HAVING DONE ALL OF THE WORK.
WHEN WE DID OURS AND CAME BEFORE THIS BODY SEVERAL TIMES, WE HAD DONE A LOT OF THE HOMEWORK THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT BEFORE WE EVEN STARTED, AND I MENTIONED TO ANNIE THAT I WOULD HATE FOR HER TO HAVE TO COME BACK HERE THREE MONTHS FROM NOW AND SAY, WE NEED TO CHANGE THE VARIANCE BECAUSE WE CAN'T BUILD IT THIS WAY OR THAT WAY.
YOU KNOW, I'M TRYING TO BE AS HELPFUL AS I CAN AS A NEIGHBOR.
AND THE PICTURES SHOW THAT THEY'RE GOING TO PARK CARS ON THE RESIDUAL PORTION OF THEIR YARD.
AND I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE BEDLAM TO GET CARS IN AND OUT.
SO FOR US, WE WOULD BACK OUT FROM OUR GARAGE TOWARDS THE WATER AND THEN WE WOULD DRIVE OUT FACE FORWARD. BUT FOR ANY VISITORS TO OUR PLACE, THEY WOULD PARK FACE IN, WHICH MEANS THEY'RE GOING TO BE BACKING UP, WHICH TO MISS RIGG'S COMMENT IS EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
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YOU CAN PROBABLY PREDICT ON THE CALENDAR WHICH DAY BACK TO BACK ARE GOING TO HIT EACH OTHER THE FIRST TIME, AND THEN THE NEXT TIME AND THE NEXT TIME, AND TO BOOT THE EASEMENT.MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE EASEMENT PERMISSION IS TO DRIVE ACROSS FOR DRIVEWAY PURPOSES, WHICH MEANS THE PART THAT'S IN YELLOW IS OUR DRIVEWAY AND IS NOT PARKING AND IS NOT STAGING AND IS NOT FOR CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT.
AND I DON'T SEE HOW THEY'RE GOING TO DO THIS.
NOW, THIS GROUP DOESN'T REALLY HAVE TO CONCERN WITH THE HOW.
AND BOTH THE OWNERS, AND. OR MAYBE NOT THE OWNERS, BUT THE ARCHITECT SAID, OH YES, YOU CAN PARK OUT, BACK OUT THE OTHER WAY. WELL, I DON'T SEE A DRAWING SHOWING THAT THEY'VE LOOKED INTO THAT IN TERMS OF HOW THEY'RE GOING TO DO THAT WITHOUT DOING A K TURN ALMOST EVERY TIME.
SO, LIKE I SAID, I WANT TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR.
WE ASKED FOR A VARIANCE AND WE UNDERSTAND AND WE WANT THEM TO ENJOY THE HOUSE.
I THINK, MELANIE, IF YOU WOULD SHOW THE FIRST PICTURE THAT I SENT YOU.
I PROPOSED TO ANNIE AND I GUESS THEY THOUGHT ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT, BUT I PROPOSED THAT'S AN EXISTING DRONE PICTURE AND SHOWS HOW CLOSE OUR HOUSE IS THERE ON THE FAR SIDE AND WHERE THE YARD WOULD BE.
NOW, IF YOU SHOW THE NEXT ONE. I PROPOSE THEY PULL BOTH SIDES OF THE UPPER PART FORWARD.
THEY HAVE ALL THE DEAD SPACE DOWN AT THE BOTTOM TO THE RIGHT OF THE FRONT DOOR.
AND I RECOGNIZED THIS IS MY DRAWING, MY ONE PASS.
AND YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ENTITLED TO THINK ABOUT IT THE WAY THEY WANT TO DO IT I UNDERSTAND.
IT'S JUST I HAVE TO BE THE ONE THAT'S GOING TO END UP WITH THIS IN MY FACE.
AND SO I'M PROPOSING THAT THEY CONSIDER ALTERNATIVES.
MELANIE, IF YOU COULD GO TO THE NEXT ONE. THIS IS FROM THE BACK SIDE.
AND THEN THE FOLLOW UP FROM THAT. AND THAT SHOWS BASICALLY A DORMER ON THE TOP WITHOUT CHANGING ESSENTIALLY THE OVERALL MASSING OF THE HOUSE.
YOU COULD EASILY DUPLICATE THAT DORMER ON THE FRONT.
THEY ARE. I UNDERSTAND THAT. I WANT THEM TO BE HAPPY.
I'M JUST CONCERNED THAT ONCE THIS IS APPROVED, IF IT'S APPROVED THE WAY THEY'RE ASKING, WE'RE STUCK.
WE'RE GOING TO END UP WITH THOSE CARS ALL THE TIME.
TODAY, WHEN JOHN AND SALLY, THE PARENTS THAT LIVE THERE ARE, HAVING AN EVENT OR A PARTY, THEY COME TALK TO US AHEAD OF TIME, GRACIOUSLY, AND WE GRACIOUSLY ALLOW THEM TO PARK IN THE PART THAT'S OUR YARD AND SAY, ABSOLUTELY, IT'S NOT A PROBLEM. BUT NOW WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT NOT TWICE A YEAR OR FOUR TIMES A YEAR.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EVERY DAY. AND EVERY DAY THAT THESE KIDS HAVE FRIENDS COME OVER, THE KIDS OF THE KIDS, WE'RE GOING TO BE DEALING WITH THAT AND IT'S JUST INEVITABLE THAT SOMEONE'S GOING TO BE BACKING OUT WITHOUT LOOKING AND THAT SOMEBODY MIGHT DO IT FROM OUR SIDE AS WELL.
AND THAT'S WHY I'M A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED AND I REALIZE I'VE EATEN UP MORE THAN MY THREE MINUTES.
SO I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE AND THANK YOU.
ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. YEAH. THANKS FOR SHARING.
THANKS. ANY OTHER APPEARANCES? AND I THINK WE'LL OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION. OH, THERE IS? YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. DISCUSSION. ANYBODY HAVE COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? I WENT OVER THERE TODAY AND IT IS VERY TIGHT.
I WAS VERY. WELL, FIRST I PASSED IT BECAUSE I DIDN'T EVEN.
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I WAS LOOKING FOR ANOTHER LOT AND DIDN'T REALIZE THAT THEY DO SHARE THE SAME NARROW DRIVEWAY ALL THE WAY UP.AND AS YOU CAN SEE IN THIS PHOTO, THE ARBORVITAES THAT ARE THERE ARE VERY TALL AND VERY THICK.
AND IF SOMEONE WAS TO PULL OUT OF THERE, THERE'D BE NO WAY YOU COULD SEE WHAT'S GOING ON ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT, ON EITHER SIDE. SO THAT WAS MY MAIN CONCERN JUST BECAUSE IT HAD BEEN BROUGHT UP ABOUT PULLING OUT WOULD BE AN ISSUE.
THAT WAS PROBABLY MY BIGGEST CONCERN. IT'S VERY TIGHT.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH TIME IT'S GOING TO BE WITH ANOTHER 22FT COMING OUT.
YEAH. OTHER QUESTIONS? NO QUESTIONS. I DO HAVE COMMENTS.
AND I DID WATCH AND APPRECIATED THE DELIBERATION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
AND I AM IN AGREEMENT WITH THE FOLKS ON PLANNING THAT HAD CONCERNS WITH THIS ONE.
AND I JUST GO BACK TO WHAT OUR CODE IS, WHAT OUR STAFF IS RECOMMENDING.
AND ESSENTIALLY WHAT IS ALLOWABLE IN THE CITY OF ORONO AT THIS TIME.
NOW, IF WE'RE INTERESTED IN REWRITING CODE TO ACCOMMODATE LARGER VEHICLES, MORE TOYS FOR THE LAKE STORAGE, THAT KIND OF THING, I THINK THAT'S AN OPEN QUESTION.
AS IT STANDS NOW, THIS APPLICATION DOES NOT MEET CRITERIA.
IT DOES NOT MEET CRITERIA IN TERMS OF THESE REQUIRED SETBACKS.
AND THAT WAS, AGAIN, WHAT THE CHAIR OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION POINTED OUT.
THE 75 FOOT SETBACK IS REALLY VERY IMPORTANT.
AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL, I DON'T SEE THAT THERE IS INADEQUATE USE OF THIS PROPERTY AS STAFF AND SOME OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION VERBALIZED IN NOT GRANTING THESE VARIANCES. IT'S QUITE OPPOSITE IN FACT, IT'S TESTAMENT TO THE FACT THAT THIS IS AN INCREDIBLE ASSET TO THIS FAMILY THAT HAS BEEN ENJOYED FOR GENERATIONS. AND IF IT WEREN'T THE CASE, LIKELY THIS WOULD NOT STILL BE UTILIZED BY THE FAMILY OR THE PROPERTY OWNERS.
I FEEL A STRONG NEED TO PROTECT THE CODE THAT WE HAVE WRITTEN AS A CITY HERE.
AND IF WE'RE INTERESTED IN CHANGING THAT, I'M ALL EARS AND OPEN TO THAT PROCESS.
WE HAVE A COMP PLAN COMING UP. WE CAN DEBATE THOSE THINGS IN THE FUTURE.
AS IT STANDS NOW, THIS ISN'T MEETING OUR CRITERIA.
AND I ALSO JUST QUESTION, WE DO HAVE LAKE LOTS HERE IN ORONO THAT HAVE UNIQUE FORMATIONS.
IT'S NOT THAT NEW ACTUALLY IN TERMS OF SEEING THIS TYPE OF APPLICATION COME TO US WHERE THE DESIRE, BECAUSE IT IS A WANT, I DON'T ARGUE THAT IT IS A NEED TO OWN CERTAIN SIZE VEHICLES OR LAKE TOYS AS IT WAS SAID EARLIER.
THOSE ARE REALITIES THAT ARE REQUESTS OF THIS COUNCIL, BUT I CAN'T GET BEHIND GRANTING VARIANCES FOR THINGS THAT ARE NOT ESSENTIALLY NECESSARY FOR THE REASONABLE ENJOYMENT OF THIS PROPERTY, MEANING CANOE OR KAYAK STORAGE, EXTRA SPACE FOR WIDER VEHICLES.
BECAUSE THOSE ARE CHOICES THAT ARE NOT ESSENTIAL FOR THIS PROPERTY TO BE REASONABLY ENJOYED, AND I APPRECIATE THAT THIS IS A LEGACY PROPERTY.
I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT, AND I'M GLAD THAT FUTURE GENERATIONS CAN ENJOY IT, AND I BELIEVE THAT IT CAN BE ENJOYED REASONABLY WITHOUT THE CITY GRANTING VARIANCES FOR THIS TYPE OF EXPANSION. I HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT THE LAGOON, AND JUST AS AN OVERALL STATEMENT, I'M JUST VERY MINDFUL OF NOT WANTING TO ENCOURAGE VARIANCES BEING GRANTED THAT ARE ESSENTIALLY ABOUT CERTAIN AMOUNTS OF CONVENIENCE. YOU CAN STORE KAYAKS EFFECTIVELY OUTDOORS.
AND I KNOW THAT PERSONALLY BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE MINE ARE STORED.
IT MAY NOT LOOK AS NICE AS SOME FOLKS WOULD LIKE, BUT IT'S FINE TO DO SO.
I UNDERSTAND THE DESIRE FOR THESE REQUESTS AND AT THE SAME TIME, I JUST DON'T SEE THAT THIS MEETS OUR CRITERIA AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I'M SUPPORTIVE OF. OTHER THOUGHTS? WELL, I TEND TO AGREE WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON THIS.
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POINTS? I DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO TAKE A PEEK AT THE MEETING, BUT THAT REALLY GOT THEM TO THE POINT WHERE FIVE OF THEM APPROVED THIS.YOU KNOW, I CAN'T REALLY SUMMARIZE THEIR WHOLE DISCUSSION, BUT, YOU KNOW, THEY DID ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE IMPROVEMENT WAS BEING PROPOSED AT THE LAGOON SIDE, WHICH IF YOU THINK ABOUT HOW WE LOOK AT OTHER PROPERTIES, FOR EXAMPLE, ON CHANNELS WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE 75 FOOT SETBACK ISN'T GOING TO BE ABLE TO BE MET AT ALL REALLY ON A CHANNEL FOR THESE 75 FOOT WIDE LOTS. WE'RE REALLY PROTECTING LIKE THE LAKE PROPER FROM MASSING AND ADDITIONAL ENCROACHMENTS.
SO ON OCCASION, THE COUNCIL AND COMMISSION HAVE BEEN MORE ACCEPTING OF ENCROACHMENTS ON THE LESSER LAKE SIDE, IF YOU WILL, ON THE CHANNEL SIDE OR NOT AS THE PROMINENT LAKE SIDE.
SO I MEAN, THAT WAS PART OF THE DISCUSSION AS WELL.
BUT AS YOU SEE THE VERY, VERY LIMITED BUILDING ENVELOPE, THERE ISN'T AN EXPANSION THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO DO OUTSIDE OF THIS DORMER WISE OR OTHER EXPANSION AREAS THAT WOULD NOT REQUIRE A VARIANCE.
I GUESS PROBABLY THE BEST I CAN SUMMARIZE WITHOUT READING.
AND SO FOR ME, I LOOK AT THIS PROPERTY. IT'S SUPER UNIQUE.
IT'S SUPER SMALL. IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO HAVE ANY CONFORMING PLANS THAT FIT THIS.
AND SO I DO THINK THAT THEY'VE GIVEN A LOT OF THOUGHT TO THIS.
I TEND TO AGREE WITH THE NEIGHBOR IN SUGGESTING THAT IT'S GOING TO BE PRETTY COMPLICATED WITH A BUNCH OF, AFTER THIS IS DONE WITH A BUNCH OF CARS AND HOW THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE AND MAKE IT A SAFE ENVIRONMENT FOR PEOPLE, WHETHER THEY'RE VISITORS OR THE RESIDENTS THEMSELVES, AS THEY'RE MOVING TO THE LAGOON SIDE AND GETTING IN AND OUT OF THAT DRIVEWAY.
SO I'M PERSONALLY IN FAVOR OF GRANTING THIS VARIANCE.
OKAY. YEAH. I WILL SAY I AGREE ALONGSIDE THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN REGARDS TO THAT.
I WAS ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION AT THE TIME WE DID DOCTOR TRUITT.
SO I REMEMBER GOING THROUGH THAT SPECIFICALLY FOR A LONG TIME AND WORKING WITH THOSE UNIQUE PIECES OF PROPERTY AND SEEING THAT ENVELOPE FOR WHERE IT SITS NOW ON THAT PROPERTY THERE IS VERY CHALLENGING.
I WAS AT THE PROPERTY THIS AFTERNOON, SO THE DOCTOR AND HIS WIFE AND I HAPPENED TO PULL IN AND, YOU KNOW, HE WAS OUT AND HE CAME IN AND HE SHOWED UP AND HE JUST KIND OF PULLED IN AND AROUND AND, YOU KNOW, HAD TO DO HIS LITTLE CIRCLE ON HIS OWN YARD TO GET AROUND THERE.
SO I THINK THAT'S A BIG CHALLENGE FROM THAT STANDPOINT.
I AGREE WITH THAT. I DON'T STRUGGLE WITH THE VARIANCE AS MUCH BECAUSE AGAIN, WITH THIS PROPERTY SITTING AS IT IS, AS WE LOOK AT IT ON A CHANNEL ON THESE WEIRDER, CHALLENGING LOTS, THE VARIANCE PART OF IT ISN'T AS TOUGH FOR ME ON THAT GIVEN THE UNIQUENESS OF THIS, BUT IT REALLY IS THE TIGHTNESS OF IT AND HOW THAT FITS AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IN REGARDS TO ONCE THE PROJECT'S DONE FOR THAT PARKING AND THE SAFETY. AND THEN ALSO I THINK THE NEIGHBOR BROUGHT UP IS, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO STAGE IN THE BUILDING OF THAT PROPERTY? AND I'M NOT IN CONSTRUCTION. SO I THINK THAT'S A CHALLENGE IN REGARDS TO THAT.
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BUT AT THE SAME TIME IS BEING ABLE TO USE THIS PROPERTY TO THE BEST AND MOST THOROUGH ON THAT.I THINK IT IS A HARD PIECE OF PROPERTY TO WORK WITH AND A CHALLENGING PIECE.
AND I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THAT THE NEIGHBOR HAD TO SAY IN REGARDS TO THAT.
SO I REALLY LOOK AT THAT AS GOING. I DON'T KNOW WHAT OTHER ALTERNATIVES ARE OUT THERE.
AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE. I DO BELIEVE IT IS A REAL CHALLENGE.
AND WHAT ANYTHING ELSE WOULD LOOK LIKE, I'M NOT REALLY SURE.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S ANYTHING MORE THAN ME JUST TALKING IN CIRCLES NOW.
THANK YOU. YEAH, I THINK THIS IS A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT IS VERY, VERY CHALLENGING.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS I ACTUALLY HAPPEN TO LOOK AT THE LOT NEXT DOOR THAT YOU BUILT THE HOUSE ON WHEN IT WAS STILL AN OLD RAMBLER AND KIND OF LOOKED AT IT AND WENT, HOW WOULD WE FIT A HOUSE IN THERE? OBVIOUSLY, IT WAS DONE WITH A LOT OF VARIANCES.
ANOTHER UNIQUE PROPERTY THAT REQUIRED VARIANCES, I GUESS THE WAY I LOOK AT IT, I GUESS AS MR. SCHWINGLER SAID, I DON'T KNOW THAT I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE VARIANCE THAT MUCH.
IT IS NOT INCREASING THE HARD COVER. IT'S GOING RIGHT OVER THE DRIVEWAY.
IT'S FARTHER AWAY FROM THE LAGOON THAN WAS ALLOWED THE NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY.
YOU KNOW, I ADMIT THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE CHALLENGES, BUT I THINK THERE'S ALREADY CHALLENGES WITH DRIVING IN THERE THAT YOU CERTAINLY WERE WELL AWARE OF WHEN YOU BOUGHT THAT PROPERTY. AND SO I KIND OF FEEL LIKE I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TO DISAGREE WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION HERE THAT THIS IS A PROJECT THAT GIVEN THE UNIQUE CONFIGURATION OF THAT LOT, THAT IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT I WOULD OPPOSE, SO. WHERE I COME OUT, DO YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING FURTHER? I FEEL LIKE IT'S ON A TEETER TOTTER RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I DO APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT THEY ARE STILL IN THE HARDCOVER AND STUFF, BUT I DO HAVE A HARD TIME WITH HOW CLOSE THEY'RE GETTING TO THE NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY IN HIS DRIVEWAY AND HOW MUCH OF THAT'S GOING TO BE USED. IT'S A BIG ASK, I GUESS. I THINK ASKING SOMEBODY TO, YOU KNOW. I GUESS I JUST SEE IT. IT'S GOING TO GET ABUSED.
AND I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE GONE IN THE PAST TO ASK FOR PERMISSION AND STUFF, BUT PUSHING IT OUT ANOTHER 22FT, I THINK IS KIND OF ASKING FOR THINGS TO HAPPEN A LITTLE BIT MORE OFTEN.
AND, LIKE I SAID, I WAS VERY SURPRISED HOW TIGHT THAT IS IN THAT AREA WHEN I DROVE UP THERE. AND I JUST FEEL LIKE IF THERE WAS A BETTER WAY FOR THE CARS TO BE BACKED OUT, IF THERE WAS SOME ROOM ON THE SIDE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SIDE VARIANCES WOULD DO FOR MAKING SURE THAT THEY BACK UP INTO THE OTHER SIDE TOWARDS THE.
WOULD BE THAT THE SOUTH SIDE? I GUESS I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND. WERE YOU ASKING A QUESTION ABOUT SETBACK? YEAH. SIDE SETBACK.
DRIVEWAY SETBACKS ARE FIVE FEET. FROM THE PROPERTY? OKAY. FROM THE SIDE PROPERTY LINE? OKAY. AND I DON'T SEE HOW MUCH.
ARE THOSE JUST THE DECORATIVE PILLARS OR ARE YOU PLANNING ON GOING DOWN TO.
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GROUND? HAS THAT BEEN RESEARCHED? YOU WOULD DO THE PILINGS? SO I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK IF WHEN ANSWERING A QUESTION, IF YOU COULD COME TO THE PODIUM SO WE CAN HAVE IT ON THE RECORD.SO, YEAH, THE PILINGS IS ONE QUESTION. THE STAGING, HOW DO YOU INTEND TO STAGE THIS DURING CONSTRUCTION? BECAUSE THERE REALLY ISN'T ROOM FOR IT HERE. THAT'S A GREAT POINT BY YOUR NEIGHBOR.
WELL, ONE OF THE SOLUTIONS THAT WE HAVEN'T, YOU KNOW, HAVE A CONTRACT OR ANYTHING YET, BUT WAS TO ASK THE NEIGHBORS ON THE ORANGE SIDE OF THE DIAGRAM TO USE SOME OF THAT SPACE FOR STAGING ON THAT SIDE AND THEN COME IN THROUGH THAT AREA.
SO IN THAT FRONT BLANK CORNER WHERE THEY'RE MOST LIKELY GOING TO BE DOING ALL THEIR STAGING FOR THEIR PROPERTY, THAT WAS ONE SOLUTION. YOUR NEIGHBOR'S SHAKING HIS HEAD.
AND ALSO, IF YOU CAN GO BACK TO THE PARKING DIAGRAM, AS LONG AS WE WERE DISCUSSING THAT.
THERE ARE SOME BOULDERS ON THAT. WHAT THE DIAGRAM SHOWS THE CARS GOING OUT TO THE OTHER SIDE, BUT. I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY WE COULD TURN BACK TO THE OTHER SIDE AND THERE ARE SOME LANDSCAPE BOULDERS THAT KIND OF RUN THAT PERIMETER.
AND IF WE WERE ABLE TO INCREASE THE HARD COVER SLIGHTLY AND REALLY PUSH THAT BOUNDARY AS MUCH AS WE COULD AND MOVE THE EXISTING BOULDERS THAT ARE THERE, WE COULD SWING OUT MORE THE OTHER WAY. I MEAN, YOU STILL CAN DO THAT.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S DIFFICULT, IT'S MORE HYPOTHETICAL.
AND THIS IS GRASPING A LITTLE BIT, BUT IN MY OPINION, IT'S A LITTLE BIT SAFER THAT NOW YOU'RE BACKING UP WITH A CLEAR VIEW OF THE CARS THAT ARE SITTING OVER THERE, VERSUS IF YOU'RE BACKING UP FROM BEHIND THOSE HEDGES AND YOU START DRIVING WITHOUT BEING ABLE TO SEE.
THAT CAN ALSO, YOU KNOW, BE DANGEROUS AND SET UP FOR AN ACCIDENT, AS NOW YOU'RE WALKING OUT AND YOU HAVE A CLEAR VIEW OF IF THERE'S A CAR DRIVING SOMEONE GETTING INTO THEIR VEHICLE, YOU'RE GETTING INTO YOUR VEHICLE, YOU COULD HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THAT PERSON.
SO THAT'S JUST SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND AS WELL, I GUESS.
SO WHOSE PROPERTY ARE THOSE BOULDERS ON? THEY'RE ON OUR CLIENT'S PROPERTY.
THEY'RE RIGHT THERE JUST TO THAT WHITE SIDE OF THAT CAR THAT'S RIGHT THERE.
OKAY. SO THEY KIND OF DELINEATE WHERE TO STOP AND START.
IT'S DEPICTED LIKE A WALL. YEAH. OKAY. LOW. LIKE THEY'RE.
YEAH, IT'S JUST DEPICTED. I DON'T REMEMBER IT WHEN I WAS OVER THERE TODAY, SO.
ANYTHING ELSE FOR ME, WHILE I'M HERE? I JUST WANT TO ADD THAT I'VE SAT THROUGH ENOUGH OF THESE CONVERSATIONS IN THE PAST FEW YEARS TO RECOGNIZE THAT IT'S ONE THING TO GET IN THE WEEDS ABOUT WHERE WE'RE GOING TO DO STAGING AND, YOU KNOW, WHERE THINGS ARE POSITIONED AND WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE GOING TO BACK INTO SOMEBODY. BUT I JUST WANT TO REITERATE THAT THIS PROPERTY IS UNIQUE.
IT'S ON SHORELINE. IT'S SOMETHING THAT MAY NOT BE APPROPRIATE TO MODERNIZE IN TERMS OF ALLOWING FOR ACCOUNTING FOR AND ENABLING EVERY REQUESTED MODERN CONVENIENCE, WHETHER IT BE A MULTIPLE CAR GARAGE OR EXTRA STORAGE SPACE OR MORE LIVING SPACE. AND I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I SEE IS IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER IN THIS TYPE OF VARIANCE REQUEST, IS WHETHER OR NOT EVERY LOT IN THE CITY OF ORONO THAT HAS LEGACY IS APPROPRIATE TO MODERNIZE.
AND YOU COULD DO A LOT IN TERMS OF MODERNIZING AND CREATING MORE CONVENIENCE IN THIS HOME WITHOUT MAKING, WHICH IT ALREADY IS, A NONCONFORMING LOT MORE SO INCREASING HARDCOVER OVER WHAT IT ALREADY IS.
IT'S ALREADY NONCONFORMING IN TERMS OF THE HARDCOVER, WE'D MAKE IT MORE SO.
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APPLICANT, I THINK MY STANDPOINT ON THIS IS PRETTY CLEAR TO ME THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT JUST DOESN'T WORK IN THIS AREA.I'M HEARING SERIOUS CONCERNS FROM A NEIGHBOR THAT I WOULD SHARE.
AND THIS IS NOT THE ONLY UNIQUE SMALL LOT IN THE CITY OF ORONO THAT I UNDERSTAND THE APPLICANT WANTS TO MAKE MAYBE MORE CONVENIENT OR HAVE MORE SPACE. I JUST DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S ALWAYS SOMETHING THAT THE CITY CAN DO.
WE CAN'T CHANGE SHORELINE, AND I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF SERIOUS CONCERNS HERE.
AND I DON'T FEEL THE NEED TO MAKE EVERY SITUATION FIT, WHEN THIS ONE DOESN'T.
STAFF'S RECOMMENDING AGAINST IT. THERE'S SERIOUS CONCERNS FROM THE NEIGHBOR.
SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. IS THERE ANY POSSIBILITY OF NOT COMING OUT 22FT BUT COMING IN, MAYBE GOING OUT 11FT JUST SO THERE ISN'T AS MUCH OF AN IMPACT TOWARDS THE NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY_ I KNOW I'M ASKING YOU TO REDESIGN IN THE FLY HERE, BUT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT JUST HOW JAMMED IN THIS IS GOING TO BE. COME UP TO THE MIC, PLEASE.
MAYBE THAT ENDS UP WITH MORE UPPER LEVEL THEN, BUT I GUESS THAT, ARE WE CONFORMING AT THAT LEVEL_ OR I GUESS WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO GAIN BY THAT_ WE'RE TRYING TO GAIN SOME MORE SPACE BETWEEN THE GARAGE AND THE NEIGHBOR'S DRIVEWAY.
THE UTILITY EASEMENT THAT WOULD NOW CROSS UNDERNEATH THE GARAGE, DOES THAT POSE AN ISSUE? I BELIEVE YOUR NEIGHBOR HAD HIS HAND UP. YEAH.
PLEASE, COME ON UP. SO FIRST I WANT TO REITERATE.
I WANT TO BE AS SUPPORTIVE AS I CAN. A COUPLE OF CORRECTIONS OR THINGS.
I DIDN'T REMEMBER THAT YOU WERE AT OUR VARIANCE AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.
BUT WHEN WE BUILT OUR HOUSE, YES, WE WENT UP, BUT WE REDUCED THE FOOTPRINT FROM THE EXISTING.
WE MADE IT FURTHER ANOTHER TWO FEET AWAY FROM THEIR HOUSE WHEN WE DID THAT.
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SO WE KNOCKED OFF SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 50 AND 100 OR 150 SQUARE FEET WHEN WE DID THAT, THAT'S THE FIRST COMMENT.THE SECOND, AND IT IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT THAT TODAY WE DO BACK OUT AND TURN AROUND AND SO FORTH.
AND I'VE WATCHED MANY TIMES AS ANNE'S FATHER, JOHN AND SALLY BACK OUT, AND THEY BACK OUT TOWARDS THE HEDGE THAT YOU'VE POINTED OUT WITH NO DANGER, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT REALLY IN THE MAIN DRIVEWAY AT THAT POINT.
AND THEN THEY BASICALLY DO A K TURN AND ROUND OUT AND TAKE OFF, AND IT WORKS JUST FINE.
NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A STARTING POSITION THAT'S CONSIDERABLY FURTHER 22FT OR WHATEVER IT IS.
SO NOW THE ONLY THING THEY CAN DO IS BACK INTO OUR.
OR BACK THE OTHER WAY IF YOU BELIEVE THAT. I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN VERY OFTEN.
BUT ANYHOW, THAT'S MY SECOND ISSUE. AND THE THIRD IS, I APPRECIATE THE QUESTION ABOUT THE 11FT, BECAUSE I THINK IF YOU DID A SCALING OF FIVE FEET ON ONE SIDE AND 11 ON THE OTHER, WITH TWO SEPARATE GARAGES, YOU WOULD HAVE BOTH BEHIND THE 75 FOOT SETBACK IF YOU WERE TO DRAW IT ON THERE, INSTEAD OF HAVING THE TWO CARS ALL THE WAY OUT 22FT.
I DON'T WANT TO. YOU KNOW, IT'S UP TO THEM TO DESIGN, NOT ME.
BUT I THINK THAT COULD EASILY ACCOMMODATE THAT.
AND IT WOULDN'T SO MUCH IMPACT ON THE K TURN PROBLEM AS I'M CONCERNED ABOUT.
SO THANK YOU. THAT'S SOMETHING YOU WOULD ENTERTAIN OR IS THAT.
OBVIOUSLY THAT WOULD CHANGE THE SECOND FLOOR CONFIGURATION FOR THEM.
AND IS IT TRUE THAT YOU WOULDN'T REALLY BE ABLE TO BACK UP THE CAR.
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JUST A QUESTION. ARE THE CAR, THE LEFT OR THE BOTTOMMOST CAR, IS THAT SITTING ON ASPHALT OR IS THAT ON GRASS AT THIS POINT? THERE'S NO ASPHALT. IT'S GRAVEL. GRAVEL.SO ALL OF THE BLUE IS GRAVEL AT THIS POINT? NO CEMENT THERE.
AND I GUESS THAT'S WHAT MY SUGGESTION WAS TO, YOU KNOW, CHANGE IT TO 11FT IF THAT WOULD BE AT ALL POSSIBLE. I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE ADDING A MUDROOM ON THE OTHER SIDE, WHICH IS VERY NICE.
OTHER QUESTIONS? ANYBODY CARE TO MAKE A MOTION? THANK YOU. JUST AS A REMINDER, WE'RE LOOKING FOR A MOTION FOR DIRECTION.
YES. UNDERSTOOD. WELL, I'LL JUST SAY ONE LAST COMMENT.
I THINK THAT WHAT WAS PRESENTED TO US WAS SENT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
TO ME, I TEND TO THINK IT MAKES SENSE. I LIVED ON A ROAD WHEN I WAS GROWING UP THAT I COULDN'T SEE THE DIRECTION AND THE ROAD SERVED 20 SOME HOUSES, SO I NEVER HAD ANY TROUBLE BACKING UP.
WE WERE NEEDED TO BE RESPONSIBLE WHEN WE DID THAT.
I RECOGNIZED THAT CONCERN. BUT I ALSO DON'T WANT TO OVERPLAY THE CONCERN THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SIMPLY NATURALLY START CRASHING INTO ONE ANOTHER BECAUSE YOU'RE BACKING UP. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I THINK THAT THEY'VE COME WITH A PLAN THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVED.
I THINK IT'S A REASONABLE USE OF A REMODEL OR A RETROFIT TO THE HOME.
AND SO I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE VARIANCES AS REQUESTED.
DIRECT COUNCIL? COUNCIL TO. DIRECT STAFF. YEP.
IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION? I'LL SECOND IT.
AND IN REGARDS TO. I THINK YOU HAVE SOME ISSUES YOU GOT TO WORK OUT AND YOU REALLY DO.
I MEAN, DOCTOR TRUITT'S CONCERNS ARE VERY REAL.
AND I SEE THAT AS FAR AS IN REGARDS TO WHETHER THE STAGING ALL OF THAT.
BUT I THINK THAT'S VERY, VERY CRITICAL IN REGARDS TO DOING THAT.
I THINK FROM THE VARIANCE REQUESTS, AS I SAID BEFORE, IT'S NOT THE.
AND I THINK IT'S A REASONABLE USE OF THAT PROPERTY.
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AND I APPRECIATE STAFF ON THEIR RECOMMENDATION IN REGARDS TO THAT, BUT I'M GOING TO SIDE WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION, SO. FURTHER DISCUSSION? ACTUALLY, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF.IN GOING FORWARD HERE, IS THERE ANY GIVE AND TAKE ON WHERE THEY MIGHT STAGE THIS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME GIVE AND TAKE ON THE ENGINEERING ASPECTS OF THIS WHERE THEY HAVE TO GET A BUILDING PERMIT TO BE ABLE TO DO WHAT THEY'RE PLANNING TO DO. IT'S A VARIANCE THAT'S BEFORE US RIGHT NOW.
SO I GUESS I'M JUST CURIOUS ABOUT HOW THOSE ASPECTS ARE HANDLED IF WE WERE TO APPROVE THE VARIANCE? ADMINISTRATIVELY. SO OUR BUILDING OFFICIAL ROUTINELY WILL PLACE SOME GUIDANCE OR RESTRICTIONS ON PROPERTIES LIKE THIS THAT ARE RESTRICTED, AS FAR AS IDENTIFYING HOW THINGS ARE DELIVERED TO THE PROPERTY OR WHERE CONTRACTORS ARE PARKING AND THAT SORT OF THING. BUT IT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO MEET ALL BUILDING CODE STANDARDS.
SO THAT WOULD BE HANDLED BY THE BUILDING OFFICIAL AS WELL.
SO THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE'RE DECIDING TONIGHT. NO. WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT A VARIANCE. YES.
RIGHT. FURTHER DISCUSSION? THERE'S NO SIDE OR SHOULDER ON FERNDALE, IS THERE? IT'S GOING TO BE TIGHT BRINGING TRUCKS IN AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
RIGHT. AND COMPLY WITH ALL OF OUR RULES. YEAH.
I ONLY SPEAK TO IT IS BECAUSE WE'RE DEALING WITH FAGAN, WHO IS DEALING WITH CONTRACTORS WHO PARK ON THEIR ROAD AND, YOU KNOW, HAVE WORN DOWN THE LAKESIDE. AND IT'S A REAL ISSUE THAT'S COMING BEFORE US.
SO I JUST WANT. I APPRECIATE THAT CONSIDERATION.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION THAT'S ON THE TABLE, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
AYE. AYE ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES 3 TO 2. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ALL RIGHT. NEXT, WE WILL CALL ON MISS JIN FOR A SECOND QUARTER FINANCIAL UPDATE.
I'LL LET THEM GET THE SLIDE UP. OKAY. SO WE HAVE A VISUAL RATHER THAN CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. TONIGHT WE HAVE THE SECOND QUARTER 26 FINANCIAL UPDATE.
[14) Second Quarter Financial Update]
SECOND QUARTER REPRESENTS 50% OF THE YEAR. I DO WANT TO NOTE THAT THE NUMBERS IN THIS PRESENTATION ARE UNAUDITED AT THIS TIME.SO MOVING TO GENERAL FUND REVENUE. GENERAL FUND REVENUE IS CURRENTLY AT 59.5% OF BUDGET.
OR CURRENTLY THE BIGGEST SOURCE OF REVENUE FOR GENERAL FUND IS THE PROPERTY TAX LEVY ON FIRST HALF.
TAX SETTLEMENT WAS RECEIVED ON JULY, LET'S SEE, ON JUNE 22ND.
AND WE RECEIVED THE REMAINING PORTION OF THAT TAX SETTLEMENT ON JULY 6TH.
SO THAT LINE ITEM IS ACTUALLY AT 50.7% AND NOT THE 49.8%.
LICENSE AND PERMITS ARE OVER THE 50% THRESHOLD AT 79%, DUE MAINLY IN PART BECAUSE OF THE GARAGE CONDOS. AND THEN OTHER GOVERNMENTAL REVENUE IS AT 1%.
THAT'S DUE TO POLICE STATE AID NOT RECEIVED UNTIL OCTOBER.
SO WE SHOULD BE AT BUDGET FOR THAT LINE ITEM AT YEAR END.
THE SECOND LARGEST SOURCE OF REVENUE IS CHARGES FOR SERVICE.
SO WE SHOULD SEE THAT LINE ITEM AS WELL AT BUDGET AT YEAR END.
FINES CURRENTLY ARE AT 48.9%. SO THAT'S ON TRACK FOR THE YEAR WITH THE 50% THRESHOLD.
MISCELLANEOUS. THAT'S A VERY MINIMAL AMOUNT. SO ANYTHING WILL THROW THAT WAY OVER BUDGET.
INTEREST IS AT 0.3%. INTEREST IS NOT ALLOCATED UNTIL THE 2026 AUDIT PROCESS WHICH WILL OCCUR AT THE
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BEGINNING OF 2027. AND THEN OTHER SOURCES AND TRANSFERS.WE ARE OVER BUDGET AT 113.2%. THAT'S DUE TO RECEIVING REIMBURSEMENT FROM THE CITY OF LONG LAKE FOR THE LONG LAKE FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR 2025 OPERATING SURPLUS.
SO QUARTER TWO AT THIS TIME IS ON TRACK WITH PREVIOUS YEAR'S QUARTER TWO 2026 IS AT 59.5%.
AND I'M MOVING ON TO GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURE.
MAJORITY OF THE DEPARTMENTS ARE AT OR BELOW THE 50% MARK FOR THE YEAR.
MAYOR AND COUNCIL IS AT 59.3% DUE TO MEMBERSHIPS AND DUES BEING PAID AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR.
HOWEVER, WE SHOULD BE SAYING THAT DEPARTMENT JUST AT OR BELOW BUDGET AT YEAR END.
AND THEN CENTRAL SERVICE IS AT 52.7%. STAFF HAD OVERLOOKED BUDGETING SOME MINIMAL LINE ITEMS DUE TO THE TRANSFER TO THE FACILITY SERVICES FUND WITH THE 2020 BUDGET PROCESS, BUT STAFF WILL CONTINUE LOOKING AT THIS DEPARTMENT AND ENSURE THAT IT DOES NOT GO OVER BUDGET. AND THEN MOVING ON TO THE ENTERPRISE FUND SUMMARY.
SO MAJORITY OF THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS ARE CLOSE TO THE MARK OF 50% FOR THE YEAR.
THE TWO THAT FOR REVENUE THAT IS UNDER THE 50% THRESHOLD IS GOLF COURSE, WHICH IS AT 41.2% FOR REVENUE. WE ARE ABOUT 40% THROUGH OF THE GOLF COURSE SEASON.
SO THAT'S ACTUALLY ON TRACK WITH WHERE WE'RE AT FOR THE SEASON.
AND THEN THE CABLE FRANCHISE FUND, WE ARE AT 19.4%.
WE HAVE NOT YET RECEIVED QUARTER TWO FRANCHISE FEE FROM MEDIACOM YET.
HOWEVER THAT FUND HAS ALSO BEEN GOING DOWN IN REVENUE DUE TO LESS LESS HOUSEHOLDS ON CABLE.
AND THEN EXPENDITURE WISE, ALL OF THE FUNDS ARE AT OR BELOW OR BELOW THE 50% THRESHOLD FOR THE YEAR.
THE EXPENDITURES CONSIST OF THE STREAMING STREAMING SOFTWARE.
AGENDA MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE, SO THAT'S PAID IN FULL.
AND THEN THE REMAINING EXPENDITURE FOR THAT FUND IS FROM DEPRECIATION AND AMORTIZATION.
SO WE'RE EXPECTING THAT EXPENDITURE IN THAT FUND BE AT OR BELOW THE BUDGET FOR THE YEAR.
AND I'M MOVING ON TO INTERNAL SERVICE FUND SUMMARY.
MAJORITY OF THE REVENUE IN ALL OF THESE FUNDS ARE FROM OTHER DEPARTMENTS.
SO IT'S JUST AN ALLOCATION INTERNALLY BY STAFF FOR THE REVENUE AND THEN EXPENDITURE.
THE BIGGEST ONE CALL OUT IS THE INSURANCE FUND AT 99.4%.
THAT IS DUE TO 100% OF THE WORKERS COMP PREMIUM BEING PAID.
AND THEN 80% OF THE PROPERTY CASUALTY PREMIUM BEING PAID, AND THEN THE REMAINING REMAINDER OF THAT EXPENDITURE IS DUE TO UNBUDGETED CLAIMS. INSURANCE CLAIMS THAT THE CITY HAS HAD FOR THE YEAR.
AND THEN JUST A QUICK BRIEFING ON OUR INVESTMENT PORTFOLIO 2026 INTEREST EARNED.
YEAR TO DATE IS $269,800 COMPARED TO COMPARED TO 2025.
THAT'S 48% OF WHAT WE HAD EARNED TOTAL IN 2025.
SO WE'RE ON TRACK. AND THEN A QUICK PORTFOLIO OVERVIEW.
OUR AVERAGE MATURITY DURATION IS 3.13 YEARS. TWO TO MATURITY.
AND THEN CURRENT YIELD OF PORTFOLIO IS 3.77 WHICH IS LAST QUARTER WE WERE AT 3.71. SO THAT'S BEEN SLOWLY CREEPING UP. AND WITH THAT, I AND MY PRESENTATION ON QUARTER TWO FINANCIAL UPDATE.
ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR MISS SHIN.
NO. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE THE UPDATE. THANK YOU.
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ALL RIGHT. WE WILL NOW MOVE TO THE PARK COMMISSION 2026 GOALS.[15) Park Commission 2026 Goals]
JOE, OR IS YOURS. YEAH. LET ME JUST WE'LL JUST OPEN UP OUR SPREADSHEET HERE.JUST TO GIVE A LITTLE BACKGROUND, THE PARK COMMISSION TOOK DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL TO KIND OF IMPROVE THEIR PROCESS AND TO WORK ON PRIORITIZING THEIR GOALS AND WORKING FOR SOME LONG TERM SHORT TERM GOALS.
THEY BROKE INTO A SUBCOMMITTEE AND WORKED ON THAT AND THEN BROUGHT IT TO THE PARKS COMMISSION MEETING IN MAY AND VOTED TO APPROVE THOSE. SO KIM IS HERE TO PRESENT TO COUNCIL JUST KIND OF A REVIEW OF THOSE GOALS AND TO LOOK FOR ANY COMMENTS OR DIRECTION THAT COUNCIL MAY HAVE.
SO I'LL TURN IT OVER TO KIM. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
I JUST WANT TO GIVE A CREDIT TO THE COMMISSION.
SO THIS IS WHAT YOU GAVE US. AND WE BASICALLY TOOK THOSE THREE GOALS IN THAT VERY TOP BOX TO SAY, LET'S JUST HAVE BETTER MEETINGS, UNDERSTAND ROLES, AND UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING TO CREATE PRIORITIES THAT WE WANT YOU TO BE EXPECTING FROM US REGARDING LIKE, WHAT ARE THE STATE OF THE PARKS? WHERE IS THE INVESTMENT NEEDED? SO THAT WHEN WE COME TO IDEAS, WE'VE GIVEN YOU A GOOD BASELINE OF WHAT TO LOOK AT VERSUS PROJECTS ONE AT A TIME, AND THEN THREE TO HELP SUPPORT THE DESIGN TEAM ON HACKBERRY, WHICH IS PRETTY MUCH DONE.
BUT WE FIRST JUST WANTED TO ESTABLISH DIRECTION FOR THE COMMISSION.
THE FIRST THING WAS JUST OPTIMIZING THE MEETING MANAGEMENT, HOW WE SET THE AGENDA, THE STRUCTURE OF THE AGENDA, ALLOTTING TIME, CONSISTENT STRUCTURE, USING IT OVER AND OVER, FOCUS ON OUTCOMES, WORK ON CONSENSUS, AND THEN MAKE SURE OUR MEETINGS MATCH UP WITH WHAT WE HAVE TO DO. AND THE SECOND, AND SO WE CONTINUED WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE WORKING WITH THE STAFF.
WE'RE IN THE RIGHT LANE. WE'RE NOT LIKE IN JOE'S SPACE.
SO WE HAVE OUR CREDIBILITY MAINTAINED AND THEN WE HAVE SOME GOALS.
I MIGHT BE STRETCHING THE COMMISSION A BIT ON THIS ONE. I HAVEN'T GOT THEM FILLED YET, BUT WE HAVE AN ASPIRATION TO HAVE A LIAISON, TO PLANNING, REACH OUT TO OTHER PARK COMMISSIONERS TO LISTEN AND LEARN.
WE DO HAVE EACH PARK ASSIGNED TO COMMISSIONER, SO THEY'RE BEING LOOKED AT ABOUT ONCE A MONTH, AND WE'VE DIVVIED THOSE UP ACROSS THE PARK COMMISSION.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE SOMEONE'S HERE FOR EVERY COUNCIL MEETING IF POSSIBLE.
WE'RE LEARNING HOW TO UNDERSTAND BUDGETS AND FUNDING, WORKING WITH JOE, AND HE'S DONE SOME GREAT WORK WITH THE TREES AND HELPING US UNDERSTAND HOW MONEY IS DIVVIED UP. AND WE REALLY WANT TO DREAM.
RIGHT NOW, WE'RE KIND OF IN THE WEEDS WITH A LOT OF BASELINE WORK AND AUDITS AND LEARNING HOW TO WORK TOGETHER, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO LOSE THE COOL IDEAS WE COME UP WITH BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT RIGHT TO BRING TO YOU NOW, BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T GIVEN YOU THE BASELINE, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE ALL THESE IDEAS GET CAUGHT IN THE RIGHT PLACE SO THAT WHEN IT'S RIGHT TO WORK ON A MASTER PLAN OR INVEST IN A PARK LIKE HACKBERRY, WE BRING THOSE IDEAS FORWARD FOR CONSIDERATION.
WE ALSO WANT TO RECOMMEND THAT THE ANNUAL GOAL CYCLE GOES FROM JUNE TO JUNE, BECAUSE BEING ON THE COMMISSION TWO YEARS MYSELF AND I THINK OTHERS WOULD AGREE THE GOALS WERE SET LIKE JANUARY, FEBRUARY, THEN WE CAME MARCH, APRIL, AND IT JUST FELT STICKY, LIKE, DO WE JUST ASSUME THOSE GOALS WERE, CAN WE START OVER? AND WE CAN DO THAT. ACCORDING TO JOE, WE KNOW THE BUDGET WON'T CHANGE THAT WAY, BUT WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE THE GOAL CYCLE SO THAT THE FULL COMMISSION IS KIND OF UP TO SPEED AND WE WORK ON GOALS. SO THE NEXT GOAL IS THE SECOND ONE YOU GAVE US IS TO DEVELOP A STRATEGIC ROADMAP THAT ALIGNS WITH YOUR PRIORITIES.
THIS IS BASICALLY WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR A WHILE. EXCUSE ME.
WE WANT TO DO A PARK PORTFOLIO MANAGEMENT. SO WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT WHAT TYPES OF PARKS WE HAVE.
THEY'VE ALL BEEN PREDEFINED IN THE COMP PLAN LIKE A NEIGHBORHOOD PARK OR COMMUNITY PARK.
WE WANT TO DEVELOP STANDARDS BY ELEMENT. SO LIKE A PLAYGROUND OR A PARKING LOT OR A BENCH, THIS IS WHAT WE THINK WE EXPECT. AND THEN ASSIGN THOSE ELEMENTS BY PARK TYPE.
SO LIKE A NATURE LIKE PARK WOULDN'T HAVE MAYBE A PLAYGROUND, BUT A HACKBERRY MIGHT HAVE A LOT OF THINGS BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF ELEMENTS THERE TO SERVE A LOT OF RESIDENTS. AND THEN WE WILL BRING THAT BACK TO YOU IN AUGUST TO MAKE SURE YOU AGREE WITH HOW WE'VE SET THE STANDARDS, SO WE DON'T GO OFF AND DO THE AUDIT WITHOUT YOUR BUY IN, AND THEN WE'LL HOPEFULLY GET THE AUDIT COMPLETED IN LATE AUGUST AND EARLY SEPTEMBER.
HOPEFULLY, YOU'RE ALIGNED WITH THEM WHEN WE GET YOUR FEEDBACK TO MAKE THEM BETTER, AND THEN WE CAN KIND OF UNLEASH THE COMMISSION TO DO THE AUDITS. MICHAEL AND JACOB WILL COME TO YOU SOMETIME LATER THIS YEAR WITH A RECOMMENDATION ON LAKE ACCESS POINTS.
A LOT OF WORK LAST YEAR WAS DONE BY JANEY, AND AS WELL, SHE DID A LOT OF WORK ON THE PORTFOLIO, LOOKING AT ALL THE ELEMENTS IN THE PARK THAT WE USED AS A BASELINE FOR THIS WORK.
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BUT THEY'LL COME TO YOU WITH A RECOMMENDATION ON WHAT THEY THINK WE SHOULD DO WITH LAKE ACCESS POINTS.MOLLY'S GOING TO JUST UNDERSTAND WHAT WE HAVE REGARDING MASTER PLANS, BECAUSE WE WON'T GET TO THOSE THIS YEAR, BUT NEXT YEAR WE JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT WE HAVE. SO KIND OF A BASELINE CHECK. AND THEN WE DO WANT TO DO A SURVEY AND UNDERSTAND HOW WE CAN UNDERSTAND TALKING TO OUR RESIDENTS, BECAUSE A LOT OF THE WORK WE'RE DOING, WE HAVE THE QUESTION LIKE, WELL, WHAT DO YOU THINK RESIDENTS THINK? SO WE WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY EXPECT GEOGRAPHICALLY, HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT THINGS, HOW THE PARKS ARE USED, ETC. SO THAT'LL BE ANOTHER PROJECT WE'LL BRING BACK TO YOU.
GOLF COURSE, WORK IN PROGRESS, BASICALLY PUTTING TOGETHER A SHORT AND LONG TERM PLAN, BUT ORGANIZING EVERYTHING SO WE DO THINGS IN THE RIGHT ORDER. AND THAT'S MOLLIE BRUCE AND GORDY STAY AS AN ALTERNATE. HIS ENERGY IS REALLY WITH THE GOLF COURSE.
SUPPORT THE HOLIDAY EVENT. WE'LL LEARN MORE ABOUT WHAT WE CAN HELP ON FRIDAY.
WE REALLY WANT TO ENGAGE VOLUNTEERS TO DO THREE THINGS JUST TO TAP INTO PEOPLE THAT WANT TO HELP TAKE CARE OF OUR PARKS BY DOING THAT, BUILD COMMUNITY. AND THEN THIRD, THE PARKS CAN GET SOME ATTENTION.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING I KNOW WE'VE DONE A LITTLE BITS IN HERE, BUT WE WANT TO WORK ON THAT AND MAYBE FOCUS ON A BETTER EVENT IN 27 WITH A LITTLE MORE PLANNING, WHICH WE SHOULD START TALKING ABOUT NOW. ONE IDEA IS TO HAVE A SPRING CLEANUP BY PARK OR 1 OR 2 PARKS, AND THEN MAYBE HAND OUT TREES. THE LAST GOAL THAT YOU GAVE US WAS SUPPORT HACKBERRY, JACOB'S ON THAT TEAM.
AND THEN WE HAVE PROMOTE OUR PARKS. WE JUST REALLY THINK WE HAVE SO MANY GREAT PARKS, AND LOOKING AT THE PORTFOLIO VERSUS LOOKING AT SOMETHING WE WANT TO ADD, LIKE PICKLEBALL OR A TRAIL, WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE CAN UNDERSTAND THE BEAUTY OF THESE PARKS AND PROTECT THEM FOR WHAT THEY ARE.
AND I LOVE WHAT JOE AND RACHEL DO. HAVING A PARK LIKE A LITTLE COLUMN ON PARKS IN THE NEWSLETTER, JUST TO GET PEOPLE TO REALIZE THERE'S SO MANY PARKS, THESE LITTLE TINY LIVINGSTON TOWN PARK, AND THEN YOU CAN GO TO FRENCH CREEK AND DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE YOU ARE WHEN YOU'RE WALKING AROUND. THERE'S JUST SO BEAUTIFUL. AND THEN THE LAST ONE, WHICH ISN'T THE LAST ONE IN OUR PRIORITIES, IS TO ADVANCE OUR COMMITMENT TO THE MONARCH PLEDGE.
JACOB AND I ARE WORKING ON THAT. THIS YEAR WE'RE PLANNING THE GARDENS AT THE FLAGPOLE AND THE MONUMENT, AND COUNCILWOMAN BENSON IS GRACIOUSLY TAKING THAT ON TO DO THAT.
BUT WE HAVE A THREE YEAR PLAN WE WANT TO BRING BACK AGAIN.
SO YOU WILL SEE US TALKING ABOUT THE STANDARDS FOR BUY IN.
OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OR THINGS WE MISSED? LOOKS GREAT. THANK YOU. GREAT WORK. SO I GUESS THE ONLY QUESTION I WOULD HAVE YOU'RE AT FIVE.
FIVE PLUS AN ALTERNATE. WE CAN STILL, WE COULD STILL USE TWO MORE PEOPLE.
YEAH. I MEAN, THAT'S MY QUESTION. ARE YOU RECRUITING OR SHOULD WE BE RECRUITING FOR.
SO I THINK WE'RE NOT IT'S NOT TERRIBLE WE CAN'T GET TWO MORE, BUT IF SOMEONE REALLY WANTS TO DO IT, WE'D BE HAPPY TO HAVE THEM. WE ARE STILL ACTIVELY HAVE THAT OPEN AND IF WE GET ANY CANDIDATES, WE'LL DEFINITELY ACCEPT THEM. SO I WOULD SO IT'S ON.
YEAH. PEOPLE KNOW THE OPENINGS ONLINE. YEAH. IF COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE SUGGESTIONS FOR PEOPLE THAT THEY'D LIKE TO GET INVOLVED OR THAT THEY FEEL LIKE MIGHT, MIGHT LIKE TO GET INVOLVED IN THIS THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
[16) 2026 Goals Quarterly Status Update]
MR. EDWARDS, GOALS QUARTERLY STATUS UPDATE.SO THE GOOD NEWS IS JOE AND KIM JUST TOOK CARE OF ONE OF THEM.
APPRECIATE THAT. THAT'S EXCELLENT. WE LIKE ADDING GREEN TO THIS.
SO ITEM NUMBER ONE FOR THE GOALS FROM THE COUNCIL FOR 2026 WAS A COMMUNITY EVENT.
SO THE BIG PICTURE, WE'VE REESTABLISHED THE COMMITTEE.
THE COMMITTEE IS ACTIVE. THE COMMITTEE IS FOCUSED REALLY ON THE HOLIDAY EVENT IN, IN DECEMBER.
SO WE, WE HAVE AN EVENT THAT WE'RE ACTIVELY PLANNING FOR DECEMBER 3RD HERE AT THE CITY HALL CAMPUS.
AND A BUNCH OF, BUNCH OF MOVING PIECES FOR THAT.
COUNCIL MEMBER RICKS HAS BEEN ACTIVELY OUT BEATING THE BUSHES AND LETTING PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT IT.
THE OTHER HALF OF WHAT THE COUNCIL ASKED US TO LOOK AT, IF POSSIBLE, WAS SOME KIND OF FALL EVENT.
I WOULD SAY THE COMMITTEE AND I KIND OF THINK THE I TOOK THE DIRECTION AS IF WE COULD.
AND SO WE'RE STILL OPEN TO THE IDEA OF SUPPORTING COMMUNITY COMMUNITY GROUPS EVENT.
THAT WAS YOU KNOW, SOME KIND OF EVENT THAT'S OPEN TO THE WIDER COMMUNITY.
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SO PERHAPS THERE MIGHT BE SOMETHING WE COULD DO WITH THE ORONO COALITION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT ONCE THEY BECOME MORE ACTIVE.BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, AND THE REASON I'VE CODED IT IS KIND OF A, A YELLOW THERE IS WE DON'T HAVE ANY PARTICULAR EVENT IDENTIFIED NOR A GROUP TO PARTNER WITH. WE'VE, WE'VE HAD A FEW DISCUSSIONS WITH SOME DIFFERENT FOLKS, BUT NOTHING'S REALLY MATERIALIZED FOR A FALL EVENT.
WE DO ALSO NOT REALLY PART OF THIS, BUT WE DO HAVE ON THE 24TH AT THE SAINT PAUL SAINTS GAME ORONO DAY, IT'S KIND OF A OPPORTUNITY EVENT THAT WAS REALLY A DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS EVENT, BUT SOMETHING THAT WE RECOGNIZE OUR COMMUNITY.
AND AS SOME OF THAT KIND OF MATERIALIZES INTO WHAT, WHAT ASPIRATIONALLY WE WANT TO DO, THEN THE EVENTS COMMITTEE WOULD BE THERE TO HELP SUPPORT, SUPPORT THAT AS WELL. SO OVERALL, I THINK THIS THIS COUNCIL GOAL IS WELL ON ITS WAY.
NUMBER TWO WAS CUSTOMER SERVICE METRICS USE USING EXPAND AND EXPANDING THE EXISTING WORKFLOW TRACKING SYSTEMS TO PROVIDE CUSTOMER SERVICE REPORTS. THIS ONE IS PROGRESSING. I WOULD CATEGORIZE IT AS PROGRESSING SLOWER THAN WE ORIGINALLY WANTED.
WE HAVE SPENT THE PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS TRYING TO GET OUR SYS AND PROBLEM REPORTER APPLICATION, WHICH ISN'T AS [INAUDIBLE] PRODUCT, WE ALREADY PAY FOR AS PART OF OUR GIS TO WORK AGAIN.
SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH A CONSULTANT TO GET THAT BACK UP AND RUNNING.
IT APPEARS WE'VE BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN GETTING THAT TO WORK AGAIN.
SO NEXT STEP WILL BE TO BRING THE COUNCIL KIND OF AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT WHAT A MONTHLY OR QUARTERLY CUSTOMER SERVICE REPORT MIGHT LOOK LIKE THAT WE WOULD PROVIDE USING THAT AND USING SOME OF OUR OTHER SYSTEMS TO BE ABLE TO QUANTIFY IF YOU HAVE CUSTOMER SERVICE STUFF WORKS.
SO I'M NOT SURE WHICH ONE TO HIT. I WAS NOT THE RIGHT ONE.
PARK ASSET MANAGEMENT AGAIN, THE PARKS COMMISSION JUST BRIEFED THIS, SO I WON'T BRIEF IT OTHER THAN JUST TO GIVE THE UPDATE THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, THE HACKBERRY PROJECT ITSELF, THE BOTTOM PART THERE WAS AWARDED BY THE COUNCIL.
AND WE HAVE HAD OUR PRE-CONSTRUCTION CONFERENCE WITH THE, WITH THE CONTRACTOR AND HOPE TO BEGIN WORK DEPENDING ON HIS PROJECT THAT HE HAS RIGHT IN FRONT OF HIM RIGHT IN FRONT OF THIS ONE BY THE END OF THIS MONTH.
YOU CAN SEE THERE, WE HAVE A LOT OF THE SUBTASKS HIGHLIGHTED IN GREEN.
WE HAVE BEEN MONITORING LEGISLATIVE UPDATES THIS YEAR.
AND THEN THE THING THAT WE STILL HAVE UPCOMING IS IS IMPROVING ON OUR SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS, NOTIFICATIONS WHICH WILL BE ON TRACK, BUT JUST HAS NOT HAPPENED YET IN THE NORMAL COURSE OF THINGS.
FACILITIES ASSET MANAGEMENT, THE OPTIMIZATION USE OF THE PUBLIC WORKS AND PARK FACILITIES.
SO WE DO PROVIDE THEIR MAINTENANCE AT OUR FACILITY.
SO WE HAVE THAT AS A DELAY. IDENTIFYING A FUTURE USE FOR THE PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY GROUND AND EVALUATING A CITY FACILITY CITY CONDUCTING A CITY FACILITIES CONDITION ASSESSMENT.
AND STRATEGIC PLAN FOR 2027 TO 2029. WE WERE JUST DISCUSSING EARLIER TODAY AND THE WORK SESSION, UNDERSTAND THE LATEST GUIDANCE WILL BE TO POSTPONE THAT PERHAPS ONE YEAR WHILE WE COMPLETE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND HAVE THIS AS
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A FOLLOW ON. BUT WE'LL CONTINUE AT THE STAFF LEVEL TO GATHER MORE INFORMATION SO WE CAN DEVELOP A SCOPE OF WORK FOR THAT WHEN THE TIME IS RIGHT.THOSE THOSE ARE THE PRIORITIES OR THE GOALS THAT THE COUNCIL GAVE US.
ALSO, I JUST WANTED TO THROW THIS LIST UP THERE.
IN ADDITION TO THOSE GOALS OF THE OTHER PRIORITIES AND MAJOR ACTIONS THAT THE CITY HAD TO, HAS TO ACCOMPLISH THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. WE ARE EITHER GREEN THAT THOSE THINGS HAVE BEEN ACCOMPLISHED OR ARE PROCEEDING AS THEY SHOULD, OR THEY JUST HAVE NOT HAPPENED YET. BUT, BUT ISSUES.
AND THE NAVARRO WATER PLANT SOFTENER DECOMMISSIONING STUDY IS ACTIVELY UNDERWAY.
WE ARE CURRENTLY SOLICITING INPUT FROM IMPACTED CUSTOMERS ON WHETHER OR NOT HOW MANY PRIVATELY OWNED WATER SOFTENERS ARE ON THAT SYSTEM SO WE CAN MAKE A MORE INFORMED DECISION ABOUT HOW TO MOVE FORWARD ON THAT.
SO THAT IS ON CURRENTLY ON AN AGENDA FOR AUGUST.
GREAT. AND THAT IS THE END OF MY SLIDES. SUBJECT TO ANY QUESTIONS QUESTIONS FOR.
SO I JUST HAD A QUESTION. ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT WAS CUSTOMER SERVICE.
SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE METRICS ARE COMING OUT OF THE REPORTING, BUT IS AND MAYBE YOU CAN'T SPEAK TO THIS YET, OR YOU CAN, BUT IS THERE A METRIC THAT BASICALLY SAYS EVERYBODY THAT REACHED OUT TO US IN A WAY THAT WOULD PROMPT US TO RESPOND IS HEARING BACK AND THIS IS THE TIMELINE THAT THE HEARING BACK? YES. BUT THERE'S SOME NUANCES TO THAT. AND YOU KNOW, WHAT KIND OF OF REQUEST OR QUESTIONS COMING IN BECAUSE SOMETIMES, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE'LL TRY TO AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING IS KIND OF BRIEF.
WE HAVE, WE HAVE VARIOUS SYSTEMS AND TRACKING MECHANISMS IN PLACE FOR OUR, I CALL OUR MORE COMPLICATED OR MORE PROCESS DRIVEN RESPONSES. SO, YOU KNOW, CODE ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS AND PUBLIC WORKS REQUESTS FOR SERVICE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS WHERE WE HAVE SYSTEMS AND YES, WE CAN TRACK THOSE. BUT THERE'S ALSO, YOU KNOW, THE ONE THING THAT'S HARDER TO TRACK IS YOU KNOW, HOW MANY, HOW MANY RINGS DID IT TAKE ON THE TELEPHONE FOR THE FRONT DESK TO PICK UP? YOU KNOW, DO WE CALL, DO WE, YOU KNOW, CALL PEOPLE BACK WITHIN A DAY? YES. DO WE RESPOND TO EMAILS WITHIN WITHIN A BUSINESS WEEK? YES. BUT WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TRACKERS ON ALL OF THOSE, THOSE KIND OF ROUTINE EVERYDAY TYPE INTERACTIONS. YEAH. NO, THAT MAKES SENSE. THAT WHERE I WAS GOING WITH THAT IS WHAT I HEAR FROM FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY IS I NEVER HEARD BACK OR I HEARD BACK RIGHT AWAY. AND AGAIN, THIS ISN'T ABOUT US BEING, YOU KNOW, IT'S ABOUT SETTING A STANDARD, THEN BEING ABLE TO MEASURE OURSELVES AGAINST THAT STANDARD.
WHEN IT COMES TO RESIDENTS JUST REACHING OUT.
AND SOME ARE LIKE, I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THERE'S NO FOLLOW UP, BUT SOME ARE LIKE, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THIS OR WHATEVER. SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS A PIECE OF THE CUSTOMER SERVICE PROJECT TAKING PLACE.
THE OTHER ONE WAS THE SALT SHED. I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT IT'S MY TAKE AWAY FROM OUR LAST CONVERSATION ABOUT THE SHED WAS THAT WE WERE GOING TO WAIT FOR BRANDON TO MAYBE ASSESS MORE ABOUT THAT NEED AND THEN COME TO US WITH HIS RECOMMENDATION ON WHAT THAT POTENTIALLY SHOULD LOOK LIKE, KNOWING FULL WELL THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT OUR WHERE IT'S CURRENTLY STORED IS NOT IDEAL. AND SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE IDEA AROUND THAT WAS TO DELAY ANY ACTION ON THAT, BUT NOT TO PUSH IT TO NEXT YEAR WAS TO REALLY KIND OF LEVERAGE THE EXPERIENCE THAT WE THAT WE GET OUT OF BRANDON AND HIS POINT OF VIEW AT SOME POINT.
SO. RIGHT. I JUST THINK AT THIS POINT, BY THE TIME WE GET THERE.
SO I KIND OF TOOK THAT AS WE'LL REVISIT IT AS WE GO THROUGH THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN PROCESS AND BRIEFINGS FOR THIS YEAR, WHICH MEANS AT THIS POINT, IF WE WERE TO GO AHEAD WITH THE PROJECT, IT WOULD BE A 2027 CONSTRUCTION PROJECT.
SO THAT'S KIND OF HOW I INTERPRETED THAT GUIDANCE FROM FROM THAT.
BUT YES, SO WE DIDN'T TURN IT OFF COMPLETELY.
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OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? THANKS VERY MUCH.THIS IS REALLY HELPFUL TO HAVE THIS CHECKED IN QUARTERLY.
APPRECIATE THAT. NUMBER 17 FACILITY ASSESSMENT PROPOSAL AWARD.
[17) Facility Assessment Proposal Award (26-040)]
BACK TO MR. EDWARDS. AS WE JUST MENTIONED IN THE PREVIOUS ITEM.ONE OF THE ONE OF THE GOALS FOR THE YEAR WAS TO CONDUCT A FACILITY ASSESSMENT OF OUR CITY FACILITIES, AND THEN ANOTHER PART OF THAT WAS TO KIND OF DO A DEEPER DIVE ON THE OLD PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY AND RELOOK IT AND ITS FUTURE, ITS POSSIBLE FUTURE USES, TIED INTO WHAT KIND OF UPGRADES AND RENOVATIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT WOULD NEED, NEED BE NEEDED TO MAKE THAT FACILITY USABLE FOR OTHER PURPOSES.
SO WHAT WE DID, WE WENT OUT AND WE PUT TOGETHER A REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL AND DID SEND THAT OUT TO FOUR DIFFERENT FIRMS. WE KNOW OF THAT DO THAT KIND OF WORK OR HAVE DONE THAT KIND OF THING FOR US OR FOR OUR NEIGHBORS.
SO THEY WANTED THE TWO PROPOSALS WE GOT BACK WAS FROM WE SOLICITED SEPARATELY, BUT THEY PARTNERED.
SO THE SCOPE THAT'S IN THE PACKET THERE IS THE STUDY AIMS TO PROVIDE BOTH A SNAPSHOT OF CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE AND PROVIDE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR SUSTAINABLE AND EFFICIENT PLANNING. A STUDY SHOULD PROVIDE INDIVIDUAL CONDITION ASSESSMENTS FOR EACH CITY BUILDING AS IDENTIFIED AND IDENTIFIED.
ALL OF THE MAJOR BUILDINGS WITHIN THE CITY THAT WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE TWO FIRE STATIONS, AS THEY ARE THE SUBJECT OF A SEPARATE STUDY THAT IS CURRENTLY BEING FINISHED UP UNDER THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S OVERVIEW.
AND THAT WE WANTED TO REPORT BACK THAT WOULD ANALYZE THOSE AND IT WOULD DOCUMENT AND HELP US PRIORITIZE COMPREHENSIVE PREPARE REPAIRS, ALTERATIONS AND IMPROVEMENTS FOR BUDGETING AND EXTENDING THE LIFE OF THOSE BUILDINGS FOR 20 YEARS.
AND THEN AS I MENTIONED, THE OTHER, THE, IN ADDITION, THE STUDY WILL ASSESS THE CONDITION OF THE OLD PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY AND PREPARE ESTIMATES FOR ITS REPURPOSING AND CONVERSION TO MEET POSSIBLE FUTURE USES, USES.
COULD BE, OR NOT LIMITED TO A RECREATION CENTER OR AN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT STAGING FACILITY OR A STORE, A GENERAL STORAGE FACILITY. THERE MIGHT BE SOME OTHER IDEAS OUT THERE, BUT THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT I'VE HEARD OF IN THE PAST.
SO THAT'S KIND OF HOW WE PUT THE PROPOSAL TOGETHER.
AS I MENTIONED, WE DID RECEIVE TWO PROPOSALS BACK.
THEIR PROPOSAL IS A LUMP SUM FOR, LUMP SUM FEE OF $28,265.84.
YEAH. HOWEVER, AS WE ASSESSED AND ANALYZED THE TWO PROPOSALS SIDE BY SIDE, THE PROPOSAL FROM KRAUS-ANDERSON AND WALD ACTUALLY RESPONDED TO THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL AND ANSWER THE QUESTIONS THAT WE WERE WHAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR.
I WILL ALSO SAY THAT THE CITY HAS WORKED WITH BOTH OF THOSE FIRMS IN THE PAST.
KRAUS-ANDERSON WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR CONSTRUCTION OF OUR POLICE GARAGE AND EXPANSION.
WHEN WE, WHEN WE USED COVID MONEY TO IMPROVE THAT SITE.
AND WOLD IS ALSO THE ARCHITECT OF RECORD FOR THE SCHOOL.
SO THEY DO A LOT OF WORK IN OUR AREA. SO AGAIN, WE ARE RECOMMENDING THE KRAUS ANDERSON AND WOLD PROPOSAL FOR [INAUDIBLE]. QUESTIONS, COMMENTS.
I THINK IT'S GREAT. YEAH, I DO TOO. I WOULD JUST NOTE THAT WHEN I WAS IN SCHOOL BOARD, WE WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH KRAUS-ANDERSON AND WOLD ON A NUMBER OF INITIATIVES. AND THEY WERE VERY GOOD TO WORK WITH.
SO. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO DIRECT STAFF TO ENTER INTO A CONTRACT WITH KRAUS-ANDERSON WOLD ARCHITECTS TO COMPLETE THE FACILITY ASSESSMENT FOR A FEE OF $28,265.84.
SECOND. SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
AYE. ANY OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. THANKS VERY MUCH.
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ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING FROM COUNCIL? NOTHING. HOW ABOUT MAYOR AND COUNCIL REPORTS?[Mayor and Council Report]
ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING TO REPORT ON? YEAH. I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT.WE HAD OUR SHORELINE FIRE DEPARTMENT BOARD MEETING LAST WEEK.
AND SO THAT WENT WELL. I DID WANT TO JUST MENTION THAT DEPUTY CHIEF PASKOWITZ SHED HIS INTERIM TAG.
AND SO I KNOW HE WAS HERE FOR THE TWO MINUTES THAT THE CONSENT AGENDA WENT ON.
BUT I'VE NOTICED A VERY PROFESSIONAL APPROACH TO TALKING A LOT ABOUT CULTURE AND STANDARDS AND WHAT THEY EXPECT FROM THE TEAM THERE. AND AS I OBSERVE THAT YOU CAN JUST FEEL A VERY DIFFERENT NATURE IN THERE, WHETHER IT'S PART TIME FIREFIGHTERS I'M WORKING ALONGSIDE AND THE PAID ON CALL FIREFIGHTERS, AND JUST THE WAY THAT THEY'RE WORKING TOGETHER ON A REGULAR BASIS TO THE POINT WHERE AND I THINK CHIEF HYLAND SAID OTHER DEPARTMENTS WILL COME OVER AND THEY'LL SEE THE DUTY CREW WORKING. AND IT'S NOT ALWAYS JUST ALL PART TIMERS, BUT IT'S A BLEND OF PART TIME AND PAID ON CALL WORKING TOGETHER AND THEY'RE JUST THEY MAKE POSITIVE COMMENTS, ACCORDING TO MIKE, ABOUT THE WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING AND STAYING ACTIVE TO DO THAT. SO IT'S REALLY GOOD.
THE OTHER THING THAT I KNOW THAT WE'VE DONE IS WE RECENTLY GOT A REPORT BACK THAT TALKS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW TO BECOME MORE EFFICIENT WITH OUR OWN DEPARTMENT, BUT BROADER NEIGHBORING DEPARTMENTS. SO I THINK THAT THAT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME TO WORK OUT, BUT I THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF ENERGY AROUND HOW WE CAN POTENTIALLY PLAN, WHETHER IT'S EQUIPMENT OR RESPONSE OR JUST OVERALL STRUCTURE WITHIN FIRE AND EMERGENCY SERVICES IN THE AREA LONG TERM.
SO I THINK THAT'LL BE GOOD. AND THE LAST THING I'LL COMMENT ON THAT JOHN HAS DONE.
AND MIKE, TWO MORE. THEY'RE REALLY STARTING TO TAKE A LOOK AT DATA BEHIND THE INCIDENT TYPES WE HAVE IN ORDER TO CONTINUE TO PLAN AND PREPARE HOW THAT DEPARTMENT SHOULD BE SET UP AND STRUCTURED IN A WAY THAT ALWAYS HAS IN THE BACK OF ITS MIND, THE SERVICE THAT WE'RE PROVIDING TO THE COMMUNITY.
SO IT'S REALLY NEAT TO SEE THAT. AND THE LAST THING I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, AND THIS IS MORE RYAN OVER THERE, BUT THE EFFORT TO REALLY RE-IMAGE THAT DEPARTMENT WITH THE HELP OF RACHEL AND SHE STEPPED OUT.
BUT WHETHER IT'S THEIR GEAR ALL TAKING STEPS OR THEIR APPARATUS EVERYTHING IS REALLY STARTING TO COME TOGETHER AND IT'S JULY 13TH. AND SO THEY'VE REALLY DONE A NICE JOB OF, OF MAKING ALL OF THIS WORK IN A VERY SHORT PERIOD.
SO I JUST WANTED TO RECOGNIZE JOHN FOR GETTING RID OF THE INTERIM TAG, BUT JUST KIND OF REALLY EXPLAINING A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT CHIEF HYLAND AND JOHN AND THAT ENTIRE TEAM HAVE DONE OVER THERE. SO IT'S BEEN GREAT. THANK YOU.
SURE. I'LL JUST GIVE A QUICK UPDATE BECAUSE IT WAS MENTIONED JUST BRIEFLY IN OUR PARKS UPDATE THAT I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH STAFF AND A BIT WITH PARK COMMISSION AS WELL ON THIS MONARCH PLEDGE, AND TALKING ABOUT THE FLAGPOLE AND AREAS IN FRONT OF CITY HALL THAT ARE GOING TO BE KIND OF A MAKEOVER IN TERMS OF ADDING THESE POLLINATORS TO SOME OF OUR BRANDING AROUND HERE, WHETHER IT BE OUR MONUMENT SIGNS HERE AT THE CITY OR IN A FEW OF OUR OTHER PARKS WHERE IT'S APPROPRIATE. SO I JUST WANT TO THANK STAFF AND ALSO THE PARK COMMISSION FOR, FOR ALL THE EMAILS AND PHONE CALLS LATELY ON, ON THESE ISSUES, BECAUSE IT REALLY DOES. A LOT OF WORK HAPPENS OUTSIDE THESE MEETINGS TO MAKE ALL THESE THINGS HAPPEN.
AND I'M EXCITED TO BE ABLE TO BRING A BIT MORE OF THAT TO OUR CITY IN TERMS OF WORKING WITH OUR ENVIRONMENT, LIKE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER IN THE WORK SESSION. WE HAVE SUCH BEAUTIFUL GREEN ASSETS HERE, AND IT'S REALLY BEEN FUN TO BE ABLE TO WORK ON THIS.
SO THAT WILL CONTINUE AND HOPEFULLY SEEING SOME PROGRESS HERE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS.
SO THAT WILL FURTHER BUTTRESS THOSE, THOSE EFFORTS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE LEAD YOU'RE TAKING ON THAT. I WANT TO MENTION THAT THE MAYOR, MYSELF AND OUR CITY ADMINISTRATOR, ADAM, ATTENDED THE LEAVE MINNESOTA CITIES ANNUAL CONFERENCE.
WE WERE IN ROCHESTER THIS YEAR. THERE WERE MANY, MANY DISCUSSION GROUPS THAT WE ALL ATTENDED.
WE TRIED TO SPLIT UP DIVIDE AND CONQUER SO WE COULD GET AS MUCH INFORMATION AS WE COULD.
I THOUGHT IT WAS A VERY GOOD CONFERENCE AND I APPRECIATE BOTH OF YOU BEING THERE AND WITH MYSELF.
AND THEN AFTER THE CONFERENCE, I WAS INVITED TO TOUR WITH KIM NORTON, THE MAYOR OF ROCHESTER.
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THEY HAVE A GROUP THAT DOES REGENERATIVE GARDENING, AND IT IS MOSTLY AIMED TOWARDS PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THEIR COMMUNITY GARDENS, AND THEY'RE AIMED AT PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN APARTMENT BUILDINGS OR MAYBE A RENTAL PROPERTY WHERE THEY CAN'T DO GARDENING.AND ESPECIALLY SOME OF THE IMMIGRANTS THAT WERE IN THE LIVE IN THE AREA AND STUFF LIKE THAT, WHERE THEY CAN GROW NATIVE VEGETABLES. AND THEY'VE, LIKE I SAID, THEY HAVE FIVE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS AND IT'S REALLY GROWN IN THEIR CITY AND IT'S BEEN REALLY SUCCESSFUL. SO THAT WAS, THAT WAS REALLY FUN TO BE INVITED TO THAT TOO.
AND I AM THE NEXT LIAISON FOR THE NEXT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.
SO. OKAY, GREAT. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO REPORT OTHER THAN [INAUDIBLE] DID A GREAT JOB ON THE UPCOMING EVENTS AND WORKING WITH THINGS PUTTING TOGETHER ON THAT.
IT'S FUN TO SEE FOR THE NIGHT OUT WITH THE SAINT PAUL SAINTS AND THE HOLIDAY EVENT COMING TOGETHER.
HEY, DO YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE SAINTS? ACTUALLY, I WOULD LOVE TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THE SAINTS. YES. SO JULY 24TH, WHICH IS A FRIDAY, WHICH MEANS THERE WILL BE FIREWORKS.
WE ARE HAVING ORONO DAY WITH THE SAINT PAUL SAINTS.
IF YOU GO ON OUR WEBSITE YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET THE QR CODE TO BUY SOME TICKETS.
I BELIEVE THEY'RE 18.89 A PIECE. AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT SURPRISES THEY HAVE WITH ANY ORONO DIGNITARIES, BUT I DO KNOW THAT IT SHOULD BE A VERY FUN EVENT, AND I HOPE EVERYBODY CAN ATTEND.
SO THANKS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YEAH, THE ONLY THING I WOULD ADD BEYOND WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN MENTIONED, I ATTENDED THE REGIONAL COUNCIL OF MAYORS MEETING TODAY, ALONG WITH SUPERINTENDENT DOCTOR FLETCHER.
AND IT WAS AN EXCELLENT ANNUALLY WE HAVE A MEETING WITH AREA SUPERINTENDENTS AND TALKING ABOUT ITEMS OF MUTUAL INTEREST THAT WE SHARE BETWEEN CITIES AND SCHOOLS.
AND IT'S ALWAYS A VERY INTERESTING AND FUN DISCUSSION.
AND TODAY WAS NO EXCEPTION. SO THAT WAS A, THAT WAS A GOOD MEETING.
OTHER THAN THAT, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO COME BEFORE THE MEETING.
OKAY. I GOT AHEAD OF MYSELF. SECOND, I TRY NOT TO MAKE MOTIONS MYSELF.
IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE, AYE AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. WE ARE ADJOURNED AT 7:57.
MOTION.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.