[Roll Call] [00:00:07] IT IS IN ATTENDANCE TO JOIN US IN RECITING THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TONIGHT. THIS IS OUR REGULAR MEETING, APRIL 27, 2026. THE FIRST ITEM OF AGENDA [Approval of Agenda] ON THE AGENDA IS TO APPROVE THE AGENDA, INCLUDING... [Consent Agenda] THE ITEMS ON TONIGHT'S CONSENT AGENDA. THESE ITEMS ARE CONSIDERED ROUTINE, WILL BE ENACTED IN ONE MOTION, NO DISCUSSION UNLESS A COUNCIL MEMBER OR STAFF REQUESTS THAT THE ITEM BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR SEPARATE DISCUSSION AND ACTION. TONIGHT'S CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS ARE AS FOLLOWS. THE MINUTES FROM OUR LAST MEETING, CLAIMS AND BILLS, ANNUAL PERFORMANCE REVIEW OF THE CITY ADMINISTRATOR, AND HIRING OF... SEASONAL EMPLOYEES SO WITH THAT I WOULD OPEN IT UP FOR THE COUNCIL TO PULL ANY ITEMS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE OR TO ADD ANY OTHER ITEMS TO THE AGENDA ANYTHING IF NOT I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE OUR CONSENT AGENDA SO MOVED A SECOND BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION NOT ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE AYE ANY OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. ALL RIGHT, MOTION CARRIES. NEXT WE'LL MOVE ON [Public Comments] TO PUBLIC COMMENTS, AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO ADDRESS CITY COUNCIL. WE WON'T GET INTO A BACK AND FORTH WITH YOU, BUT WE'D LOVE TO HEAR WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY, AND WE'D ASK YOU TO KEEP YOUR COMMENTS BRIEF SO THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES FOR EVERYBODY TO SPEAK. SO WITH THAT, I WOULD INVITE ANYBODY TO COME FORWARD TO THE PODIUM TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL. GOOD EVENING, MY NAME IS JOHN BENT. I LIVE IN 1120 TONKOA ROAD. I'VE BEEN AN ORONO RESIDENT FOR 42 YEARS. AND THIS EVENING, I'M HERE TO SPEAK AS AN ORONO RESIDENT, BUT ALSO AS PRESIDENT OF CITIZENS FOR SHARING LAKE MINNETONKA. I'M HERE TO FOLLOW UP ON PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS AND COMMUNICATIONS I'VE HAD WITH EACH OF YOU. REGARDING THE REGULATION OF WAKE SURFING ON LAKE MINNETONKA. AT THE PRESENT TIME, THE ORONO REPRESENTATIVE TO LAKE MINNETONKA CONSERVATION DISTRICT HAS SET THE POLICY FOR THE CITY SOLELY ON HIS OWN BY OPPOSING ANY CONTROL OF WAKE SURFING. MINNETONKA BEYOND THE 200 OR THE 300 FOOT SETBACK FROM SHORE THAT WAS PASSED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. THIS IS UNFORTUNATELY A MISGUIDED POLICY BECAUSE IT IGNORES THE RESEARCH THAT THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA HAS DONE ON PROP WASH AND THE IMPACT THAT THE PROP WASH OF A WAKE SURFING BOAT CAN HAVE ON THE BOTTOM OF THE LAKE. I'VE SENT YOU MORE DETAILED INFORMATION BECAUSE TIME TONIGHT DOES NOT ALLOW IT, BUT YOU'VE SEEN VIDEOS SHOWING THE BOTTOM OF THE LAKE EXPLODING WHEN WAKE SURFING ISN'T CONDUCTED IN WATERS LESS THAN 20 FEET DEEP. NOW WHY IS THIS A PROBLEM? IT'S A PROBLEM BECAUSE THE POLLUTANTS THAT ARE EMBEDDED IN THE LAKE BED ARE BEING REINTRODUCED INTO THE WATER. LAKE MINNETONKA HAS A LONG HISTORY OF TERRIBLE POLLUTION. IN THE 50S AND THE 70S, RAW SEWAGE WAS DUMPED IN THE LAKE, AND IT TOOK DECADES TO CLEAN UP THAT POLLUTION. AND NOW WE'VE GOTTEN TO A POINT WHERE THINGS ARE FAIRLY STABLE, BUT THERE'S STILL WORK TO DO. BUT IF WE ALLOW WAKE SURFING TO BE DISRUPTING THE BOTTOM OF THE LAKE AND REINTRODUCING THOSE POLLUTANTS BACK INTO THE WATER, IT'S GOING TO SET BACK A LOT OF WORK THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE. SO I'M HERE TONIGHT AGAIN TO ASK THE COUNCIL TO DISCUSS THIS AND DEBATE THIS ISSUE AND DETERMINE WHAT THE CITY'S POLICY IS GOING TO BE WITH REGARD. TO LMCD'S APPROACH TO WAKE SURFING. I KNOW YOU DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO GOVERN THE LAKE, [00:05:02] BUT YOU DO HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO EXPRESS A POINT OF VIEW ON WHAT THE POLICY SHOULD BE, AND YOU DO HAVE AUTHORITY OVER WHO REPRESENTS THIS CITY. AND IT IS NOT PROPER, IN OUR OPINION, THAT ONE PERSON SHOULD SET THE POLICY FOR THE CITY WHEN THAT POLICY IS... ACTUALLY HARMFUL TO THE ECOLOGY OF THE LAKE AND NOT IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE RESIDENTS OF ORONO, SO IT IS DOUBLY TROUBLESOME BECAUSE THAT REPRESENTATIVE HAS A DIRECT FINANCIAL CONFLICT OF INTEREST AND I'VE PROVIDED YOU INFORMATION THAT VERIFIES THAT AND IT IS NOT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY TO LET THAT ONE PERSON DETERMINE POLICY. THANK YOU ANYONE ELSE? PLEASE. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS MEL. SAY YAY YOU KNOW, WE'RE DOING A TEA BALL. THANK YOU. WE GOT TWO NEW TABLES. TWO PICNIC TABLES. AND IT APPEARS LIKE WE'RE GOING TO BE KEEPING AND RETAINING OUR FIELD, AND YOU'RE GOING TO REMODEL SIDEWALKS, AND WE'LL GET TO STAY. BUT THERE ARE STILL A COUPLE ISSUES WITH THE NEW PLANS, AND IT'S BASED ON MORE HABITS MAYBE THAN SOMETHING ELSE. FIRST OF ALL... THE PICNIC TABLES ARE GOING TO STAY PLAYGROUND AS WELL AS BEING PUT DOWN IN THAT LITTLE TOILET SLASH PICNIC SHADED FACILITY YOU PLAN TO BUILD ON THE WILLOW. IT'S NEEDED ON WILLOW BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT BUSINESS PEOPLE, DRIVERS, AND WHATEVER USING THE FACILITY. AND IF THE PICNIC TABLES ARE ALL GOING TO GO DOWN TO WILLOW, I WOULD STILL LIKE A COUPLE TABLES UP BY THE PLAYGROUND. BECAUSE KIDS SNACK, RUN OVER TO THE SWING SETS, COME BACK, AND RIGHT NOW THEY'RE RUNNING. THROUGH MUD. SO THE PICNIC TABLES ARE ON THE BASKETBALL COURT SO IT'S FIRM GROUND FOR THE KIDS AND THE ADULTS. IT'S NO MUD. KELLY CAN'T GO UNDER A PICNIC TABLE. THEY'RE ON THE BASKETBALL COURT, THERE'S NO WORRY TO MOVE OR... DO ANYTHING WITH THEM, JUST LEAVE THEM. AND THEN IF THEY DO HAVE TO MOVE CLOSER TO THE PICNIC TABLE, THEN THAT TREE, THAT BIG OAK, HAS TO BE THINNED TO LET SOME SUNLIGHT IN. THE OTHER CONCERN I HAD WAS MAILBOXES. IT APPEARS LIKE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOMETHING NEW COMING CALLED GREEN PARKING, WHICH IS GREAT. WE ALL GET TO LEARN SOMETHING NEW. WHAT I WANT TO KNOW IS IF THERE'S A WAY TO DEFINE NO PARKING IN FRONT OF OUR MAILBOX. IT'S 10 FEET THROUGH POST HOLES ON EITHER SIDE. WITH THE NEW MAIL CARRIER, OUR OLD MAIL CARRIER WHO RETIRED A FEW YEARS AGO, SHE WOULD GET OUT OF HER TRUCK AND GIVE US HER MAIL AND IT WAS NO PROBLEM. THE NEW CARRIER SAID THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED. SO WE DON'T HAVE 10 FEET, WE DON'T GET MAIL. SOMEONE'S ON THE FIRST END OF THE ROUTE. AND IF WHEN THIS GAL WORKS WE GET IT FIVE O'CLOCK HOPE THAT WITH THE GREEN PARKING BY THE MAILBOX ALSO, WITH THE PARKING, THE LOT SEEMS TO HOLD MAYBE 30 CARS PLUS THREE HANDICAPS, AND IT'S GOING TO BE ALL ON THE NORTH SIDE. THIS IS WHERE HABIT COMES IN. PARENTS OF CHILDREN KNOW THEIR CHILD IS PLAYING ON THE SOUTH FIELD. THEY PARK AS CLOSE TO THE FIELD OF PLAY AS THEY CAN. I THINK WE'VE LEARNED THAT WITH PETERWOOD, WITH IGNORING NO PARKING SIGNS. PARKING THERE AND THE PARKING LOT WAS EMPTY. ACTRA IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT IF IT'S ON THE NORTH SIDE. THOSE PLAYING ON THE NORTH LOT WILL USE IT. [00:10:03] PEOPLE, IF THEY START PARKING ON BOTH SIDES OF WILLOW AND THEY IGNORE THE NO PARKING ON MAPLE, WE'VE GOT A PROBLEM BECAUSE THE FIRE ENGINE CAN'T GET THROUGH. AND ONE OF OUR NEIGHBORS IS A FIREMAN AND HE HAS MANY TIMES HAD A NEIGHBORHOOD GATHERING AND GET-TOGETHERS. SO I'M WONDERING AS AN ALTERNATIVE OR A SOLUTION IS TO KEEP THE DOUBLE PARKING ON THE NORTH SIDE. AND CONTINUE ONCE AND ENTER IN ON ELM. THE REASON FOR THAT IS THERE'S A DIP BETWEEN THE FIRE HALL AND GLENDALE. THAT HIDES A MIATA. IT HIDES A PERSON IN A RECUMBENT BITE. YOUR VISIBILITY TO PULL UNDER WILLOW IS MUCH BETTER THAN IT IS ON THE ELM. JUST FOR SAFETY. SO, I'M GLAD WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS AGAIN. I'M GLAD THAT, YOU KNOW, THE BATTLES AREN'T SO MUCH, SO I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE YOU COMING. ANYBODY ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? A COUPLE PEOPLE JUST WALKED IN. WE'RE IN PUBLIC COMMENT HERE, IF YOU'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL AT ALL. ALL RIGHT. IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT, BUT YOU'RE WELCOME TO PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THAT IF YOU'D LIKE. WE'RE ABOUT TO CLOSE OUT PUBLIC COMMENT. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? ALL RIGHT. THANKS FOR YOUR COMMENTS. NOW WE'LL MOVE ON [5) First Quarter Financial Update] TO THE FINANCE REPORT. MS. JIN IS GOING TO GIVE US THE FIRST QUARTER FINANCIAL UPDATE. THE FLOOR IS YOURS. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. TONIGHT WE HAVE THE FIRST QUARTER. 2026 FINANCIAL UPDATE AND I'LL WAIT. SO FIRST QUARTER REPRESENTS 25% OF THE YEAR. NOTE THAT ALL OF THE NUMBERS ARE CURRENTLY UNAUDITED. SO FIRST UP, WE HAVE GENERAL FUND REVENUE. GENERAL FUND REVENUE IS AT 14.4%, WHICH IS ON TRACK WITH PREVIOUS YEARS. I'LL JUST GO SOURCE BY SOURCE. TAXES IS CURRENTLY AT 0% OF BUDGET, FIRST HALF. TAX SETTLEMENT IS NOT RECEIVED UNTIL JUNE FOR 90% OF THAT, AND THEN REMAINING PERCENTAGE OF THE FIRST TAX SETTLEMENT IS RECEIVED IN JULY. LICENSE AND PERMITS ARE CURRENTLY AT 37.8%, WHICH IS OVER A 25% EARMARK FOR THE YEAR. THIS IS MAINLY DUE TO GARAGE CONDO PERMITS COMING IN. AND THEN OTHER GOVERNMENTAL... IS AT 0.4%. POLICE STATE 8 MAKES UP A MAJORITY OF THAT LINE ITEM, OF THAT SOURCE, AND THAT DOESN'T COME IN UNTIL FOURTH QUARTER IN OCTOBER FOR THE YEAR. AND THEN CHARGES FOR SERVICE IS THE SECOND LARGEST SOURCE OF REVENUE. THAT IS CURRENTLY AT 38.8%. THE FIRST HALF OF 2026 POLICE SERVICE FOR MOUND HAS BEEN BUILT OUT ALREADY, SO THAT'S CAUSING THAT TO BE OVER THE 25%. THRESHOLD FOR THE YEAR MARK FOR THE YEAR. FINES IS CURRENTLY AT 16.7%. MARCH REVENUE WAS JUST RECEIVED IN APRIL, I BELIEVE LAST WEEK, WHICH THEN NOW PUTS THAT LINE ITEM AT 29% INSTEAD OF THE 16.7 THAT'S SHOWN UP THERE AND THEN INTEREST IS ANOTHER LINE ITEM THAT I LIKE TO CALL OUT, WHICH IS AT 0.1% FOR THE YEAR. AND THAT IS BECAUSE INTEREST IS NOT ALLOCATED UNTIL THE 2026 AUDIT PROCESS THAT STARTS IN 2027. NEXT SLIDE. WE HAVE A GRAPH SHOWING QUARTER TO QUARTER YEAR TO YEAR COMPARISON OF GENERAL FUND REVENUE CURRENT YEAR ESTIMATE FOR 2025. YOU CAN SEE ON THE LAST ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE IS CURRENTLY AT APPROXIMATELY 106.3% OF BUDGET. PER MY CURRENT ESTIMATE, THE CITY SHOULD BE MEETING FUND BALANCE POLICY OF 40% BY THE END OF 2025, BUT THIS MAY CHANGE OR FLUCTUATE AS AUDIT FIELD WORK IS CURRENTLY UNDERWAY. WE JUST STARTED THE AUDIT PROCESS THIS WEEK WITH FIELD WORK. AND THEN QUARTER ONE, 2026, YOU CAN SEE UP THERE, IS AT 14.4% AGAIN, WHICH IS ON TRACK TO PREVIOUS YEARS. [00:15:02] NEXT, MOVING ON TO GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURES. MAJORITY OF THE DEPARTMENTS ARE TRENDING APPROXIMATELY AT BUDGETED EARMARK OF 25% OR LOWER. MAYOR AND COUNCIL DEPARTMENT IS THE ONLY DEPARTMENT OVER THE 25% EARMARK FOR THE YEAR AT 44.5% DUE TO MEMBERSHIPS BEING PAID AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR. MOVING ON TO ENTERPRISE FUND SUMMARY. MAJORITY OF THE ENTERPRISE FUND REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE ARE CLOSE TO THE EARMARK OF 25% OF BUDGET FOR THE YEAR OR LESS FOR BOTH REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE. GOLF COURSE IS CURRENTLY AT 1.3% FOR REVENUE. GOLF COURSE JUST OPENED UP AT THE BEGINNING OF APRIL, SO REVENUE COLLECTION IS JUST BEGINNING. AND THEN THE CABLE FUND REVENUE IS AT... 0.2% OF BUDGET. THIS IS DUE TO FRANCHISE FEE COMPOSING MOST OF THE REVENUE. REVENUE FOR THE FIRST QUARTER OF FRANCHISE FEE JUST WAS RECEIVED LAST WEEK AS WELL, AND THAT NOW PUTS THAT FUND REVENUE AT 19%. THE SHORTFALL IS MOST LIKELY DUE TO DECREASE IN MEDIA COMP FEE COLLECTIONS. MOVING ON TO INTERNAL SERVICE FUND SUMMARY, MAJORITY OF THE FUNDS REVENUE ARE CLOSE TO EARMARKED 25% OF BUDGET FOR THE YEAR. MEANWHILE, ON THE EXPENDITURE SIDE, YOU CAN SEE FLEET AND IT FUNDS ARE SLIGHTLY OVER THE 25% EARMARKED FLEET. THAT IS DUE TO THE SELECTION OF FAMILY CONTRIBUTION FOR INSURANCE THAT WAS UNANTICIPATED. SO A SWITCH IN INSURANCE SELECTION. AND THEN IT EXPENDITURE, THE FIRST HALF YEAR OF SUBSCRIPTION SOFTWARE WAS PAID, AND THEN A LOT OF THE SMALLER PRICE SUBSCRIPTIONS ARE PAID AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, WHICH IS CAUSING THAT MINOR OVERAGE OVER THE 25% EARMARK FOR THE YEAR. AND THEN INSURANCE FUND IS AT 67.5% FOR EXPENDITURE. THAT IS DUE TO 50% OF WORKERS COMP PREMIUM BEING PAID ALREADY AND THEN 61% OF PROPERTY CASUALTY PREMIUM BEING PAID AT THIS TIME. AND THEN LATER IN THE COUNCIL AGENDA, I DO HAVE A ITEM FOR AMENDING THE INSURANCE FUND BUDGET AS STAFF OVERLOOKED BUDGETING FOR THE WORKERS COMP PREMIUM. AND ON THE NEXT SLIDE, I HAVE A QUICK OVERVIEW OF INTEREST THAT WE'VE EARNED YEAR TO DATE FOR 2026. WE ARE AT 28% OF WHAT WAS EARNED IN 2025 AT $157,000 EARNED FOR INTEREST TO DATE. AND THEN NEXT SLIDE, I HAVE A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE INVESTMENT PORTFOLIO OF THE CITY. AVERAGE MATURITY DURATION FOR THE CITY'S HOLDINGS IS 3.25 YEARS UP FROM 2.67 FROM LAST QUARTER, AND THEN THE CURRENT YIELD OF THE PORTFOLIO IS 3.71%, AND THAT'S UP FROM 3.33% FROM LAST QUARTER. TRYING TO STABILIZE THE MATURITY THROUGHOUT THE YEARS WAS THE GOAL, AND I THINK I'M DOING PRETTY WELL WITH DOING THAT. AND WITH THAT, I END THE FIRST QUARTER FINANCIAL. UPDATE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS QUESTIONS BY ANYBODY LOOKS LIKE LOOKS LIKE YOU'VE COVERED EVERYTHING WELL, SO SO THANK YOU FOR THAT WE DON'T NEED TO TAKE ANY SORT OF ACTION ON THAT IF I'M CORRECT [6) Amend 2026 Insurance Fund Budget] BUT WE DO NEED TO TAKE ACTION ON THE NEXT ITEM WHICH IS AMENDING THE 2026 INSURANCE FUND BUDGET SO BACK TO YOU. YEP. SO AS I MENTIONED IN THAT UPDATE, WE HAD OVERLOOKED BUDGETING FOR THE WORKERS' COMP PREMIUM. SO STAFF IS CURRENTLY RECOMMENDING AMENDING THE WORKERS' COMP PREMIUM EXPENDITURE LINE ITEM TO $140,000. THAT WILL COVER THE EXPENDITURES OR THE INSURANCE PREMIUM FOR WORKERS' COMP. THERE WON'T BE ANY IMPACT TO ANY OF THE OTHER BUDGETS AS [00:20:02] THE INSURANCE FUND DOES HAVE A FUND BALANCE POLICY OF JUST HAVING A POSITIVE FUND BALANCE, WHICH WE DO HAVE, AND ANYTHING EXCEEDING THE $300,000 MARK WOULD NEED COUNCIL'S FURTHER ACTION IF YOU WANTED TO TRANSFER IT TO A DIFFERENT FUND. HOWEVER, DUE TO WHEN I HAD DONE THE BUDGETING FOR THE INSURANCE FUND, I HAD BUDGETED NOT HAVING TO DO THAT TRANSFER AND THEN JUST COVERING THE EXPENDITURE WITH THAT EXCESS IN THAT FUND BALANCE. SO WITH THAT, THEN AT THE END OF 2026, WE WOULD GET THAT FUND BALANCE BACK BELOW THE $300,000 MARK. QUESTIONS? COMMENTS ON THAT? SO IT JUST DIDN'T GET INTO THE RIGHT FUND, RIGHT? YES, WE JUST OVERLOOKED BUDGETING THAT LINE ITEM. DOES THAT REQUIRE ACTION ON OUR PART? YES, YOU WOULD JUST HAVE TO APPROVE THE AMENDED 2026 INSURANCE FUND BUDGET TO INCLUDE THAT LINE ITEM. SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR STAFF. FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE AMENDED $2,026 INSURANCE FUND BUDGET AS SHOWN IN THE EXHIBIT A. IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT? I'LL SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE YOU EXPLAINING THAT TO US. [7) Community Tree Planting Grant Update] NEXT, WE MOVE ON TO A PARKS REPORT. BURGESS HERE AND TO TALK ABOUT OUR TREE PLANTING GRANT OR IS YOURS THANK YOU COUNSEL. LET ME JUST BRING UP THE POWERPOINT HERE REAL QUICK SO IN DECEMBER WE WERE INFORMED THAT WE HAD BEEN CHOSEN FOR TREE PLANNING TREE PLANTING GRANT FROM THE DNR THOUGH. WE I WAS SWORN TO SECRECY TO THE PUBLIC THAT WE UNTIL ALL THE PAPERWORK AND EVERYTHING WAS DONE THAT IS OFFICIAL IT'S SIGNED AND SEALED SO I JUST WANTED TO GO OVER KIND OF SOME OF THE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT AND YOU KNOW I THINK IT'S A REALLY GREAT THING FOR THE CITY AND SOMETHING I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE SO SO I'M JUST AN OVERVIEW OF THE GRANT AS I SAID IT WAS AWARDED BY THE DNR THE FORESTRY DIVISION WHAT I WROTE THE GRANT FOR WAS FOCUSING ON ASH TREE REMOVAL AND REPLANTING. WE RECEIVED $75,000 FOR THAT, AND THAT INCLUDES ALL ASPECTS OF THAT GRANT. WE'LL BE DOING A MAJORITY OF THE WORK THIS YEAR INTO THE SPRING NEXT YEAR, AND THAT'S WHEN THE GRANT IS CLOSED OUT. SO JUST KIND OF... GOING OVER THE SCOPE OF IT, SO IT FOCUSES, WHAT I WROTE OUR GRANT FOR WAS TO FOCUS PRIMARILY ON THE ASH TREES, WHICH WE KNOW IS A BIG PROBLEM HERE. YOU KNOW, THEY CAUSE, YOU KNOW, BESIDES JUST BEING BLIGHTY AND NOT LOOKING GREAT IN OUR PARKS, THEY ARE A SAFETY HAZARD AT A LOT OF THE PARKS. BRANCHES FALL AND SOME OF THE TREES THEMSELVES ARE EVEN FALLING, SO HAPPY TO GET THOSE OUT. YOU KNOW, WE'RE... PART OF WHAT I PROPOSE IS WE'LL BE REMOVING ABOUT A HUNDRED ASH TREES. SOME OF THOSE WE'VE ALREADY REMOVED. THEY'RE OUTSIDE OF THE GRANT YOU KNOW PARAMETERS BUT THAT TOTAL IN PARKS AND TRAILS ABOUT A HUNDRED AND WE'LL BE REPLACING THOSE WITH A HUNDRED AND FIFTY NEW TREES THE GRANT IS FOCUSING PRIMARILY ON PARKS AND TRAILS SO THAT'S WHERE WE'LL BE PUTTING THEM AND THERE MIGHT BE YOU KNOW ADDITIONAL SIDE OF THE GRANT PARAMETERS FOR SOME OF THE WAY AND OTHER THINGS ONE YOU KNOW OBVIOUSLY THE BENEFITS OF THAT IS IT'S GOING TO IMPROVE OUR CANOPY AND IT WILL ALSO DIVERSIFY OUR TREE OR TREE INVENTORY IN THE CITY TO GET IT DOWN FROM PRIMARILY ASH AND MAPLE LIKE I SAID 100% OF THE TREES WE'RE REMOVING OUR ASH AND 100% OF THEM ARE DEAD SO THAT'S A POSITIVE. PART OF THE GRANT PARAMETERS IS THE CITY MUST FOLLOW A 2015-5 DIVERSITY RULE, SO THAT JUST MEANS YOU CAN'T HAVE 20% OF MORE THAN ONE TREE, YOU CAN'T HAVE 10% MORE FROM A GENIUS, AND THEN 5% [00:25:01] FROM ONE SPECIES. SO THE THREE BASICALLY THAT WE CAN'T USE. OUR NATIVE WOULD BE ASH, MAPLE, AND THEN SPRUCE TREES. PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING ELSE THAT'S A NATIVE, WE'RE OPEN. I GAVE SOME EXAMPLES OF THE SPECIES. WE'RE NOT TOTALLY BEHOLDEN TO THOSE SPECIES, BUT THOSE ARE SOME OF THE ONES THAT I HIGHLIGHTED THAT WE CAN PUT IN THE PARKS. AND THAT TAKES INTO ACCOUNT OUR CURRENT TYPE OF TREES? YES. PRETTY MUCH OUTSIDE OF THOSE THREE, THE REST OF THE SPECIES WERE GOOD. WE'RE BELOW THAT THRESHOLD. DEPENDING HOW MANY WE PUT IN, WE MIGHT GET CLOSE TO THEM, BUT WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO VARY IT JUST SO WE DON'T HAVE ANOTHER ASH SITUATION. SO LOCATIONS, PRETTY MUCH ALMOST ALL OF OUR PARKS, WE'LL BE FOCUSING TO GET SOME TREES IN, SOME MORE THAN OTHERS, AND THEN ALSO ON SOME OF THE TRAILS WHERE WE CAN FILL IN SOME MORE TREES THAT ARE NEEDED. I DID DISCUSS THE TIMELINE, SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE DOING SOME PLANNING. WE'VE REMOVED SOME OF THE LARGER ASH TREES THAT MY STAFF CAN'T HANDLE ON THEIR OWN. WE'LL START PLANTING SOME IN THIS EARLY SPRING, IN THE SUMMER, BUT I THINK MOST OF THEM WILL BE DONE IN THE FALL, JUST TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE TIME TO GET IN. AND THEN NEXT YEAR, FINAL PHASE, IF WE NEED TO REPLACE ANY TREES THAT DIDN'T MAKE IT. PRUNING KIND OF ANY OF THE ASPECTS TO MAKE SURE THOSE TREES ARE HEALTHY AND YOU KNOW GOING FORWARD AND THEN REPORTING AND WHAT WHAT SIZE TREES ARE WE? PLANTING SO THEY HAVE TO BE UNDER TWO INCH DIAMETER OF SO THEY HAVE TO BE I THINK THAT'S TO PREVENT PEOPLE FROM SPENDING ALL THE BUDGET ON SOME BIG MATURE TREES. SO I THINK THEY WANT MORE BANG FOR THEIR BUCK, SO YOU'RE DOING SMALLER TREES THAT ARE LESS EXPENSIVE. YOU CAN GET MORE IN. SO WE GET THOSE FROM THE DNR? NO, SO WE CAN GET THEM FROM WHOEVER. WE CAN CONTRACT THAT OUT WITH ANY COMPANY. I DID WRITE INTO OUR GRANT THAT WE PREFER TO USE LOCAL BECAUSE THAT'S, I THINK, A MORE RESPONSIBLE WAY TO DO IT. SO RIGHT NOW I'M LOOKING AT PRICES, LOOKING WHO HAS STOCK AND WHEN WE CAN GET THEM. BUT COUNCILMAN BENSON HAS RECOMMENDED A COUPLE, SO THAT'S HELPFUL AS WELL. AND THEN THIS IS KIND OF A BREAKDOWN OF KIND OF THE BUDGET FOR WHAT WE'RE DOING. SO $35,000 OF THAT WOULD BE FOR TREE REMOVALS, WHICH GETS USED UP PRETTY QUICK, UNFORTUNATELY. MY STAFF WILL BE SUPPLEMENTING THAT WITH JUST THEIR NORMAL TREE REMOVALS THAT THEY CAN HANDLE. 30,000 OF THAT WILL BE FOR TREE PURCHASES AND THEN THE REMAINING 10 WILL BE SUPPLIES AND CARE AND THEN LIKE I SAID WITHIN THE PARKS BUDGET WILL BE SUPPORTING ADDITIONAL COSTS THAT COME UP, BUT IT SHOULD BE A PRETTY MINOR HOW MANY TREES CAN WE GET FOR THE 30,000 APPROXIMATELY OH WE'LL DEFINITELY BE ABLE TO GET THAT 150 YEAH BECAUSE OF THE SMALLER SIZE YOU CAN GET ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE BUYING KIND OF IN A BULK, YOU CAN GET A GOOD DEAL. AND THEN JUST A FEW OF THE BENEFITS. SO OBVIOUSLY REMOVING HAZARDOUS TREES, IMPROVE SAFETY IN THE PARKS. IT'S RESTORING OUR CANOPY AND GIVING SHADE. ENHANCING AIR AND WATER QUALITY ALSO PROVIDES FOOD AND SHELTER FOR ANIMALS, BIRDS, INSECTS. THOSE GOOD THINGS THAT WE NEED. AND THEN JUST THE LONG-TERM IMPACTS WOULD BE A MORE RESILIENT URBAN FOREST, KEEPING OUR PARKS MORE SUSTAINABLE. WE'RE INCREASING OUR DIVERSITY, WHICH IS GOOD FOR THE NEXT DISEASE THAT COMES THROUGH, AND THEN JUST MAKING OUR PARKS AND TRAILS MORE BEAUTIFUL AND EASIER AND NICE TO BE AT. AND THEN ANOTHER PART OF THE GRANT IS... COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, SO THAT CAN BE DONE IN A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT WAYS, WHICH I PROPOSE FROM RACHEL. SO WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING IN THE NEWSLETTER AND ON SOCIAL MEDIA, GIVING TIPS ON PEOPLE WHO ARE PLANTING TREES IN THEIR OWN YARDS, HOW TO KEEP THEM HEALTHY AND CORRECT WAYS TO KIND OF MULCH AND PUT THEM IN. WE WANT TO OFFER SOME VOLUNTEER PLANTING OPPORTUNITIES TO GET THE COMMUNITY INVOLVED. FUTURE COMMUNITY EVENTS WHERE WE MAY NOT EVEN BE ENGAGED WITH THE GRANT, BUT THINGS WHERE WE CAN GIVE SEEDLINGS [00:30:01] OUT. EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE COMMUNITY AND THEN JUST YOU KNOW ALWAYS HAVING AN OPEN COMMUNICATION WITH RESIDENTS KIND OF WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR AND WHERE THEY THINK YOU KNOW WE NEED MORE TREES AND NEED THINGS TO BE TAKEN DOWN AND THESE ARE JUST KIND OF WHAT THE TIMELINE IS SO UPDATES FOR US TO KIND OF REPORT ON THE GRANT JUNE IS THE FIRST ONE FIRST REPORT I SEND IN AND AND END OF THE YEAR AND THEN NEXT JUNE IS WHEN ALL THE GRANT WORK HAS TO BE FINALIZED AND ALL RECEIPTS AND EVERYTHING IN AND THEN WE'LL CONTINUE AS I TALKED ABOUT REMOVALS AND PLANTINGS THIS YEAR AND THEN YOU KNOW REPORT THAT TO THE DNR ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR I THINK IT'S DOES THIS INCLUDE ANY OF THE TREES WE'RE TAKING OUT OF SAY THE ROADWAYS AND STUFF OR IS ARE WE JUST CONCENTRATING DOESN'T FOR THE GRANT, I DECIDED TO FOCUS ON JUST PARKS AND OUR TRAILS. I THOUGHT WE HAD A BETTER CHANCE OF KIND OF RECEIVING A GRANT FOR FOCUSING ON THAT. SOUNDS GOOD. YEAH. I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS, TREE-RELATED, NOT SPECIFICALLY FOR THE GRANT. I KNOW YZETA AND I BELIEVE MEDINA ALSO DO ANNUAL SPRINGTIME TREE GIVEAWAYS TO RESIDENTS. AT LEAST, AND THAT'S JUST SOMETHING I'M WONDERING, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT'S ALL COORDINATED, BUT I'M WONDERING IF IT'S SOMETHING WE COULDN'T CONSIDER AS PART OF PUBLIC WORKS CLEANUP IN THE FUTURE. I MEAN, WITH RESERVATION, I BELIEVE YOU HAVE TO PUT YOUR NAME IN THE HAT OR SOMETHING, BUT RESIDENTS ARE ABLE TO GET BARE-ROOT TREES, I BELIEVE, OR MAYBE POTTED TREES. SO I'D BE INTERESTED TO KNOW HOW THOSE OTHER CITIES ARE OFFERING THAT TO RESIDENTS. AND THE SECOND TREE-RELATED ISSUE IS REGARDING DONATIONS. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A FUNCTIONALITY HERE IN THE CITY OF ORONO WHERE RESIDENTS CAN DEDICATE A BENCH OR HAVE THAT TYPE OF THING PLACED IN A PARK. WE DON'T OFFER THAT FOR GREEN ASSETS, TO MY KNOWLEDGE. WE DO. WE HAVE DONE A COUPLE OF TREES. WE'RE KIND OF REWRITING THAT DONATION, BUT WE CAN DO TREE DONATIONS. WE DID A TREE AT BIG ISLAND LAST YEAR, BUT I THINK WE CAN DO A BETTER JOB GETTING THAT WORD OUT. YOU KNOW COMMUNICATING THAT AND ADVERTISING IT TO RESIDENTS THAT'S AN OPTION INSTEAD OF JUST A BENCH BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING FILLED UP ON BENCHES I THINK AND WE'RE NOT GETTING FILLED UP ON TREES OR NOT YET ANYWAY AT LEAST WE NEED TO REPLACE THEM SO THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO HEAR MORE ABOUT AS WELL LOOK THAT'S ALL I HAVE ANYTHING ELSE FOR JOE THANKS VERY MUCH THIS IS WONDERFUL NEWS THAT THEY WE GOT THIS GRANT IT'S OBVIOUSLY A HUGE NEED IN OUR COMMUNITY WITH THE ASH TREE PROBLEM THAT WE'VE GOT AND WHILE I'M HERE, I DO WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT-OUT TO MY PARK COMMISSIONERS WHO WERE OUT AT THE CLEANUP A WEEK AGO HANDING OUT SEEDS, POLLINATOR SEEDS. THEY HANDED OUT ABOUT 250 IN UNDER THREE HOURS. WE WERE ALL OUT PRETTY QUICK. SO I JUST WANTED TO COMMEND THEM FOR THEIR HARD WORK, VOLUNTEERING OUT THERE IN THE WIND TUNNEL. IT WAS NOT A NICE DAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [8) Water Softener Resin and Flow Meter – Navarre Water Plant] ALL RIGHT, PUBLIC WORKS REPORT. WE MOVE ON TO HEARING ABOUT WATER SOFTENER RESIN. IS THAT YOU, MR. EDWARDS? THAT'LL BE ME. OKAY. SO WATER SOFTENERS ARE NOT QUITE AS FUN AS TREES TO TALK ABOUT. SO THE NAVARRO WATER TREATMENT PLANT CONSISTS OR INCLUDES A WATER SOFTENING CAPABILITY. THAT CAPABILITY HAS THREE ION EXCHANGE VESSELS AS PART OF IT. HAVING A WATER SOFTENER AT A MUNICIPAL PLANT IS FAIRLY UNCOMMON. THERE'S MAYBE ONE OTHER IN THE METRO AREA THAT I KNOW ABOUT THAT DOES THAT. MOST SOFTENING IS DONE AT THE DESTINATION OF THE WATER, SO AT THE HOME OR BUSINESS. FOR WHATEVER REASON, IN THE 90S, WE ADDED A WATER SOFTENING CABLE. ONE OF THOSE ION EXCHANGE VESSELS FAILED AND THE MEDIUM CAME OUT OF THE VESSEL, AND SO THAT WE'RE DOWN TO TWO. WATER PLANT IS OPERATING AND SOFTENING FINE. IT CAN DO SO ON TWO OF THOSE VESSELS. THAT IS NOT A PROBLEM. HOWEVER, IF WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO SOFTEN, WE WILL NEED TO REPLACE THE MEDIUM IN AT LEAST THAT ONE VESSEL. IT WAS NOTED WHEN THE INSPECTORS CAME OUT TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND GIVE US SOME QUOTES THAT ALL THREE. MEDIUMS ARE AT OR PAST THEIR USEFUL LIFE AND THEY RECOMMEND REPLACEMENT. DID GET SOME QUOTES FROM CURITA WATER ON WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO REPLACE THE MEDIUM. IT'S LIKE $75,000 [00:35:03] TO DO ONE OR $125,000 TO DO ALL THREE IF WE DO THEM TOGETHER. SO THERE IS SOME SAVINGS THERE. IN ADDITION, THERE IS ONE FAILED SWITCH VALVE CONTROLLER THAT HAS FAILED THAT ALSO NEEDS TO BE REPLACED. SO THE RECOMMENDATION IS IF WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO SOFTEN WATER THERE, WE SHOULD GO AHEAD AND INVEST IN REPLACING THAT MEETING. HOWEVER, ALTERNATIVELY, WE WANTED TO AT LEAST DISCUSS WITH THE COUNCIL OF WHETHER THERE IS A DESIRE TO CONTINUE WATER SOFTENING THERE OR NOT. IT IS NOT A REQUIREMENT FOR ANY OF THE WATER QUALITY NEEDS FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. IT IS MOSTLY A WATER QUALITY, BUT NOT FOR HEALTH. IT'S FOR... HELPS YOUR PIPES AND YOUR HEATER AND WASHING MACHINE AND ALL THAT. SO I JUST THROW THAT OUT THERE BEFORE WE WERE TO SPEND THAT MONEY TO AT LEAST HAVE THAT DISCUSSION. SO THERE MAY BE SOME SAVINGS LONG TERM IF WE WERE TO STOP SOFTENING. AS AN EXAMPLE, WE SPEND BETWEEN $35,000 AND $40,000 A YEAR JUST ON SOFTENER SALT, JUST KIND OF LIKE PEOPLE DO AT HOME. SO WE HAVE TO BUY AND STOCK SOFTENER SALT. IN ADDITION, THERE ARE PROBABLY OTHER COMPONENTS WITHIN THAT SOFTENER SYSTEM THAT ARE AT THE END OF THEIR LIVES. A FEW YEARS AGO, WE DID REPLACE SOME VALVES AND SOME OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT BECAUSE PARTS OF THAT SYSTEM OBVIOUSLY HAS SALT WATER THAT GOES THROUGH IT, WHICH IS HIGHLY CORROSIVE, AND SO SOME OF THOSE METAL PARTS DON'T LAST THAT LONG. BUT THERE'S PROBABLY OTHER COMPONENTS THAT WILL BE DUE FOR AN UPGRADE. WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE ANYTHING IN OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN TO DO THAT, BUT WITH THIS FAILURE, YOU CAN BELIEVE THAT'S WHEN THINGS ARE GOING TO BE. LOOKING AT AS WE PREPARE THE NEXT ONE. THE OTHER THING TO NOTE AS AN EXAMPLE IS WE HAVE TWO WATER SYSTEMS IN THE CITY OF ORONO, THE ONE IN NAVARRE, WHICH DOES SOFTEN, THE ONE UP HERE IN THE NORTH DOES NOT SOFTEN. THE OTHER THING TO NOTE IN THE SOUTH, AS WE DISCUSSED THIS, IS THAT WE TEND TO SOFTEN IN NAVARRE DOWN TO ABOUT EIGHT GRAINS. AS AN EXAMPLE, WHERE WE DON'T SOFTEN, WE'RE PUTTING OUT 23 GRAINS OF HARDNESS HERE IN THE NORTH. WE'RE ONLY REDUCING DOWN TO 8 GRAINS FOR WHAT WE PUT OUT. IF YOU'RE IN YOUR HOME, AND AS AN EXAMPLE, AND WANT TO HAVE WHAT'S CLASSIFIED AS SOFT WATER IN YOUR HOME, YOU'RE TRYING TO GET DOWN BELOW 3.5 GRAINS. SO WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY PUTTING OUT IS NOT WHAT THE AVERAGE HOMEOWNER WOULD CONSIDER SOFT WATER. NOW THAT SAID, IF WE WERE TO STOP SOFTENING, THERE'S OBVIOUSLY A PUBLIC PERCEPTION AND A CUSTOMER SERVICE ACTIVITY THAT WE NEED TO DO THERE BECAUSE THERE ARE, WE BELIEVE JUST ANECDOTALLY, THERE'S ABOUT 75% OF OUR CUSTOMERS ON THAT SYSTEM THAT HAVE THEIR OWN SOFTENERS BECAUSE THEY WANT TO GET IT FROM THE EIGHT GRAINS DOWN TO WHATEVER THEY'RE COMFORTABLE. SO IMPACT TO THEM WOULD BE THEY'D HAVE TO. REGENERATE AND USE MORE SALT THEMSELVES IF WE WERE NOT SOFTENING AND THEN THERE'S THAT OTHER GROUP OF FOLKS WHO CURRENTLY JUST WHAT THEY WOULD NOTICE A DEFINITE DIFFERENCE IN THE WATER HARDNESS AND THE VARIOUS WAYS THAT THAT MANIFESTS ITSELF AND YOU KNOW RINGS IN YOUR SINK AND STAINS ON YOUR GLASSES AND YOU KNOW ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF ASSOCIATED SO THERE'S ANYWAY, I THROW THAT OUT THERE FOR I GUESS DISCUSSION AND IF THE DECISION IS TO KEEP SOFTENING, THEN THE RECOMMENDATION IS WE SHOULD REPLACE THE MEDIUM IN THESE SOFTENERS. DO WE KNOW HISTORICAL REASONS WHY THAT WAS PUT IN THERE? BECAUSE IT HAD TO HAVE BEEN AN EXTRA COST AT THE TIME. THERE MUST HAVE BEEN A REASON FOR IT. I COULDN'T FIND THAT READILY. ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD SAY IS IF WE'RE GOING TO CONSIDER NOT SOFTENING, I'D WANT TO DO SOME KIND OF FEASIBILITY STUDY AND THINGS LIKE THAT. GO LOOK AND SEE IF WE CAN FIND SOME MORE ON THAT, MORE HISTORY, AS WELL AS OBVIOUSLY ANY KIND OF COMMUNICATIONS PLAN TO MOVE THAT ALONG. BUT I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHY WE DID IT. I THINK WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS PREVIOUSLY, YOU SAID IT ACTUALLY HAS SOMEWHAT OF A MORE CORROSIVE EFFECT ON THE PIPES TO HAVE THE SOFT WATER VERSUS PIPING THE HARD WATER. OVER TIME IT CAN. ON OUR BIG MAINS IT CAN. WHEN YOU'RE PUMPING UNSOFTENED WATER, ACTUALLY A FILM OF THE CALCIUM DEPOSIT DEVELOPS INSIDE THE PIPE, WHICH IS NOT GREAT FOR SMALL PIPES, WHICH IS WHY YOU SOFTEN WATER SO IT DOESN'T GO INTO YOUR WATER HEATER AND YOUR DISHWASHER AND SOME OF THOSE OTHER THINGS. [00:40:01] BUT IN THE BIG PIPES IT DOESN'T HURT THEM. WHEN YOU'RE NOT DOING THAT ION EXCHANGE EARLY ON, AND I HAD TO GET THIS FROM OUR WATER ENGINEER, IS THAT IT CAN ACTUALLY STRIP LITTLE PIECES OF THE METAL FROM THE PIPE OVER A LONG TIME. WE HAVEN'T NOTICED THAT ISSUE FROM THE INSIDE OF OUR PIPES. ALL THE PROBLEMS WE HAVE ON OUR CAST IRON PIPES IN THE NAVARRE AREA ARE COMING FROM THE WAY THAT THEY ARE REACTING WITH THE SOIL ON THE OUTSIDE, NOT THE INSIDE. INTERESTING. DO WE HAVE AN IDEA OF HOW MANY RESIDENTS OR HOMES WOULD BE AFFECTED IF WE STOPPED SOFTENING THE WATER UP IN THE NAVARRE AREA? HOW MANY HOMES ARE TREATED WITH THAT DIRECTLY? I CAN GIVE YOU THE EXACT NUMBER. I THINK WE'RE AROUND 1,200. OKAY. BUT OF WHICH, AGAIN, ANECDOTALLY FROM THE CREWS GOING IN TO CHANGE OUT WATER METERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WE... I THINK THE MAJORITY OF OUR RESIDENTS DO HAVE WATER SOFTENERS. AGAIN, SOMETHING WE WANT TO FIGURE OUT THROUGH A SURVEY OR WHATEVER. SO I ASSUME 25% OF THOSE HAVE NOTHING. YEAH. HAVE WE NOTIFIED ANY OF THOSE HOMEOWNERS? NO. NO, I DIDN'T WANT TO GO DOWN THAT ROUTE UNLESS THAT WAS SOMETHING THE COUNCIL FELT COMFORTABLE INTO MORE. BECAUSE IF IT WAS A HARD NO, WE'RE GOING TO SOFTEN AND GET PEOPLE ALARMED. RIGHT. YEAH. IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WE'VE GOT AN INCONSISTENT POLICY HERE BECAUSE WE'RE NOT DOING IT IN THE NORTH END OF TOWN. WE'RE DOING IT THERE. SO MY INCLINATION IS TO LOOK INTO THE IDEA OF PHASING OUT. I'D BE INTERESTED ANYWAY IN HEARING WHAT THAT WOULD ENTAIL BECAUSE OF THE COST, BECAUSE THE MAJORITY OF FOLKS ARE SOFTENING OR DOING THEIR OWN WHATEVER THEY NEED TO IN THEIR HOME TO GET IT TO THE RIGHT LEVELS. IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO HEAR THE HISTORY, AND AT THE SAME TIME, WE'RE HAVING A TAXATION SYSTEM HERE THAT'S NOT EQUITABLE, GIVEN THAT SOME FOLKS IN TOWN ARE NOT BENEFITING FROM SOFTENED WATER. SO IT'S INFRASTRUCTURE THAT, IF WE'RE GOING TO SOFTEN WATER, IT SEEMS MORE A BETTER PLAN TO SOFTEN IT FOR AN ENTIRE CITY VERSUS ONE REGION OF IT, ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE LOOKING AT REDOING $150,000 OR $130,000 OF INFRASTRUCTURE IN ADDITION TO YEARLY SALT EXPENDITURES. I JUST THINK CONSISTENCY IN SOME LEVEL WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO LOOK INTO. I AGREE. I LIKE HEADING THAT DIRECTION, HAVING STAFF TAKE A LOOK AT DISCONTINUING THE SOFTENING OPERATIONS AT THE NAVARRE PLANT, STARTING WITH SOME TYPE OF A STUDY AND GETTING COSTS PULLED TOGETHER ON WHAT THAT WOULD TAKE AND THE IMPACTS OF DOING THAT AND HOW WE COULD POTENTIALLY HELP RESIDENTS DOWN THERE TO ADDRESS SOFTENING IF THEY NEED THAT ASSISTANCE. I LIKE THE IDEA OF LOOKING INTO SOME SORT OF INCENTIVE FOR PEOPLE TO BUY THEIR OWN SOFTENER, SOME SORT OF A REBATE FROM THE CITY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. WE'RE SPENDING $35,000 A YEAR ON SALT. WE CAN PROBABLY AFFORD TO OFFER SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO PEOPLE. SOFTENING THE BLOW, TO USE THE PUN. IS THAT CONSIDERED A MAYOR JOKE? I THINK SO. AND I THINK THAT KIND OF JUST APPLIES TO THE COMMON SENSE. NOT ONLY EQUALITY, BUT ALSO, YOU SAID YOU KNOW OF ONE OTHER CITY THAT HAS... WHEN I WAS TALKING TO OUR WATER ENGINEER AT BOLTON AND MINK, THERE'S ONE OTHER CUSTOMER THEY HAVE THAT HAS... JUST FROM THAT STANDPOINT, LOOKING AT THAT, GOING, FOR US... TO LOOK INTO THIS FOR SURE AND FIGURE OUT WAYS TO HELP SOFTEN THAT BLOW TOO YEP AND THE SOFTENERS AGAIN DON'T IT DOESN'T IMPACT THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE DO THE FILTRATIONS THE CHLORIDE WELL I'LL MAKE A MOTION UH TO DIRECT STAFF TO DEVELOP A PLAN TO DISCONTINUE WATER SOFTENING OPERATIONS OF OUR WATER PLANT UP TO AND INCLUDING STARTING TO DO THAT AS WELL AS INCLUDING HOW WE CAN ASSIST RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA SERVED BY THAT PLANT TO POTENTIALLY HELP THEM WITH GETTING A SOFTENER FOR THEIR PRIVATE RESIDENCE. I'LL SECOND IT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. [9) Hackberry Park Revitalization Project  (24-028) Design Update] NOW WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE HACKBERRY PARK REVITALIZATION [00:45:01] PROJECT. I THINK THAT'S BACK TO MR. EDWARDS. YOU GET A LOT OF THE EDWARDS SHOW TODAY. SO HACKBERRY PARK REHABILITATION, THIS IS A PROJECT DESIGN UPDATE. SO WE'LL GO OVER THESE ITEMS. BUT ULTIMATELY, WE'RE SITTING AT THE 95% DESIGN FOR THE PARK. WE'RE READY TO GO OUT AND SOLICIT BIDS. THERE ARE, ONE, ONES TO REVIEW THE DESIGN WITH YOU, AND TWO, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF OPEN-ENDED ITEMS. FOR INCLUSION, NOT INCLUSION, OR SOME PHASING DISCUSSIONS THAT WE CAN HAVE. AND THEN WANTED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THE COST AND FUNDING BASED ON SOME OF THOSE DECISIONS. BUT WE'LL START WITH WHERE WE STARTED. SO WHY HAVE WE BEEN WORKING ON A HACKBERRY PARK REDESIGN? AND THIS IS FROM PREVIOUS SLIDES, BUT OUR PREVIOUS PRESENTATIONS. QUITE SIMPLY, THE PARK WAS NOT UP TO CITY STANDARDS. THE FIELD EQUIPMENT IS OUTDATED AND IN POOR REPAIR. PARKING AND WITH IT, SAFETY HAVE BEEN A CONCERN FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. WE HAVE DEAD AND DYING TREES, WE TALKED ABOUT IN A PREVIOUS BRIEFING TODAY, AND DRAINAGE IN THE PARK HAS BEEN A CHALLENGE. AND SO... THOSE HAVE BEEN ISSUES AND THEY'VE BEEN KIND OF KNOWN ABOUT FOR A WHILE UH BUT UH KIND OF LOOKING AT THE BIGGER PICTURE PLANNING UM THE UH THE ONE THING THAT WE'VE KIND OF BEEN WE WERE WAITING FOR FOR A BETTER PART OF A DECADE WAS UH THE ABILITY TO PROCURE UH WHAT'S SHOWN IN THE MIDDLE IS 40 WHICH DID FINALLY COME TO THE CITY UH IN 2022 AND WAS CLEARED IN 2023 SO THEN WE BEGAN THE DELIBERATE PROCESS OF LOOKING AT FEASIBILITY STUDIES, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, AND ALL THAT SORT OF STUFF TO START THIS MORE DELIBERATE PROCESS. WE STARTED THIS MOST RECENT PROCESS OF THE DESIGN PHASE WITH KIND OF DOING A RE-LOOK AT THE OVERALL SITE LAYOUT THAT WE HAD GOTTEN FROM THE PREVIOUS PHASE. AND THE SITE LAYOUT THAT WE STARTED DESIGNING FROM IS SHOWN HERE AS HACKBERRY CONCEPT B. THE OTHER VERSIONS OF IT ARE JUST SHOWING VARIOUS POSSIBILITIES OF DIFFERENT THINGS YOU COULD DO WITH THE SAME LAYOUT. BUT THIS OVERARCHING LAYOUT WAS WHAT WE'VE GONE WITH AS FAR AS WORKING OUT THE DETAILS OF THE DESIGN. SOME THINGS WILL CHANGE AS I GET TO SOME DETAILS. I'LL TRY TO HIGHLIGHT THOSE AS WE GET TO SOME OF THE FOLLOW-ON SLIDES. ULTIMATELY, THE THEME WAS TO KEEP THE GREEN SPACE WHILE PROVIDING SAFER PARKING. AND MAKING SURE THERE WERE YOUTH SPORTS PLAYING OPTIONS. SO FIRST SLIDE, AND WHAT I DID IS I TOOK THE ACTUAL DESIGN DECK THAT WE HAVE. I TOOK SOME OF THE PARTICULAR SHEETS OUT OF THERE AND TRIED TO HIGHLIGHT THEM AND COLOR THEM HERE SO THEY'D BE EASIER TO SEE AND UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. SO THE SITE PLAN PROVIDES US THE OVERALL IDEA OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT MAKING AS FAR AS IMPROVEMENTS ON THE SITE. SO YOU CAN SEE IN THE TWO CORNERS, AND BY THE WAY THE ORIENTATION HERE TO MAKE IT WORK ON THE SLIDE, SO NORTH IS TO YOUR RIGHT, AND SO THIS IS WILLOW DRIVE HERE TO THE BOTTOM PART OF THE SLIDE. SO KEEPING THE TWO T-BALL BALL FIELDS ARE SHOWN HERE. THE BROWN IS INDICATING AG LIME, WHICH IS THE SAME KIND OF DIRT MATERIAL THAT IS THERE TODAY, AND THOSE TWO SITES BASICALLY IN THE SAME ORIENTATION THEY ARE TODAY. THE BIG ADDITION IS THE ADDITION OF A PARKING LOT, A DEDICATED PARKING LOT, IN THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE PARK, WHICH IS DEPICTED HERE. AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, IN THE COLOR CODING, THIS HASHED GRAY COMING THROUGH, THAT REPRESENTS ASPHALT. THE DOTTED GREEN, THAT REPRESENTS WHAT WE CALL GRASS PAVE. YOU'LL SEE THERE'S GRASS PAVE BOTH IDENTIFIED IN THE PARKING LOT ITSELF AND ALSO ALONG THE PERIMETER. INSIDE PERIMETER OF THE STREETS THAT SURROUND THE PARK. AND I HAVE DOWN HERE IN THE BOTTOM CORNER JUST KIND OF AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT GRASS PAVE IS. SO IT'S JUST YOU PUT DOWN A MATERIAL ALONG THE EDGE OF THE ASPHALT OR IN THE PARKING AREAS IN THAT CASE IT'S FILLED WITH SOME SOME DIRT AND SOME GRASS. THE GRID MATERIAL THAT YOU SEE THERE PROVIDES STABILITY FOR IT SO THAT YOU CAN HOLD THE LOAD OF A VEHICLE PARKING. BUT IT ALLOWS THE WATER TO MOVE THROUGH, IT ALLOWS GRASS TO GROW, ALL THOSE KIND OF THINGS. THAT'S WHAT THAT IS. THAT'S A RELATIVELY NEW THING BECAUSE I'M JUST NOT FAMILIAR WITH IT. NO, IT'S ACTUALLY NOT THAT NEW. A LOT OF VERY SIMILAR PRODUCTS [00:50:03] HAVE BEEN USED TO STABILIZE SLOPES AND STABILIZE SHOULDERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SOMETIMES YOU'LL SEE THIS EXACT SAME MATERIAL USED, BUT NOT WITH GRASS, JUST WITH GRAVEL. IT'S SOMETHING THAT WILL HOLD IT IN PLACE. UM... THERE'S ALSO BEEN OLDER VERSIONS OF THIS WHERE YOU'LL SEE A VERSION OF IT EXCEPT IT'S MADE WITH CONCRETE PAVERS THAT HAVE HOLES IN THEM THAT GRASS CAN GROW THROUGH. I KNOW WHEN I WAS STATIONED IN GERMANY IN THE EARLY 1990S THE CONCRETE VERSION WAS ALL OVER PARKING LOTS. NO, IT'S NOT NEW, IT'S BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG TIME. I GUESS NEW TO US USING IT IN OUR PARKS. IT CAN WITHSTAND THE SEASON CHANGE AND STUFF LIKE THAT. IT SHOULDN'T TEAR IT UP, RIGHT? CORRECT. IT SHOULD MOVE AROUND. IT IS NOT SUPER CONDUCIVE TO SNOW PLOWING. THERE ARE SOME OTHER THINGS YOU CAN DO TO TRY TO GET THE SNOW OFF IT, BUT ACTUAL JUST PLOWING COULD POTENTIALLY DAMAGE IT. SO WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL. THINGS WE'LL HAVE TO DO AS FAR AS THAT MAINTENANCE. OTHERWISE, JUST THE SEASONAL. MOVEMENT OF THE GROUND YES, IT'S FINE. IT'S PROBABLY BETTER THAN IT CAN MOVE OTHER THINGS TO HIGHLIGHT IN THE PICTURE HERE DOWN HERE WITH THE YELLOW IS WHERE WE'RE TEMPLATING A PAVILION AND RESTROOM STRUCTURE AND THERE'S I'VE GOT SOME MORE DETAILS OF THAT AS WE GET INTO SOME SUBSEQUENT SLIDES THE OTHER THING IS WE'VE GOT FENCING ALONG THE BOUNDARIES OF THE FIELD IN THIS KIND OF GRAY AREA WITH THESE LITTLE BLUE DOTS. THAT'S A CONCRETE AREA WITH BENCHES FOR PLAYERS TO SIT. ADAM, CAN YOU POINT OUT WHERE THE FENCING IS ON BOTH OF THE TEE BALL FIELDS WHERE IT BEGINS AND ENDS? THIS RIGHT HERE? YEP. IT GOES ALL THE WAY ALONG AND AROUND OVER TO HERE. AND THEN THE SAME, OBVIOUSLY, ON THIS SIDE JUST BECAUSE I PUT THE COLOR OVER IT, BUT SAME LENGTH. AND THAT FENCING, SO IN THE BACKSTOP, WE'RE AT 12 FEET, 12-FOOT BACKSTOPS, DROP DOWN TO SIX FEET FENCING IN FRONT OF THE DUGOUT AREA THAT'S NOT A PLAYER SEATING AREA, AND THEN DROPPING DOWN TO 42 INCHES AS YOU GO OUT TO THE EXTENSION JUST TO KEEP BALLS FROM GOING OFF INTO THE ROADWAY. WHAT IS THE HEIGHT NOW OF THE FENCING? WELL, BEHIND THE BACKSTOP. 10 OR 12, AND THEN THE, MAYBE SIX. AND CAN YOU POINT OUT ON THE PLAN HERE WHERE THE FENCING ENDS CURRENTLY? CURRENTLY? I MEAN, THIS LOOKS... WELL, THEY'RE IN DIFFERENT PLACES, BUT... RIGHT, BUT... IN RELATION TO THE FIELD, IT COMES IN FRONT OF THE PLAYER SEATING, WHERE IT'S... THIS IS A... SOME OF IT'S BEEN REMOVED OVER THE YEARS BECAUSE IT FAILED. RIGHT. IT'S AN EXPANSION, THOUGH, OF FENCING ALONG BOTH... FIELDS. YES. SIGNIFICANT EXPANSION THAN WHAT IT HAS BEEN. YES, THE 42 INCHES, AND THAT'S THERE TO PREVENT THE BALLS OUT OF THE PARK. HOW MUCH OF AN ISSUE HAS THAT BEEN OVER THE YEARS? BECAUSE I DON'T RECALL THAT BEING DISCUSSED IN DESIGN. WAS THIS DISCUSSED IN DESIGN? YEP. IT WAS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE COMMENTS ABOUT LACROSSE. WHY IS LACROSSE NOT THERE? BECAUSE THEIR BALLS KEEP GOING INTO THE ROAD. AND IF SOCCER'S PLAYING HERE AND THEY KICK THE BALL, SOMETHING TO STOP A GROUNDER FROM GOING OUT. THAT'S WHY IT'S THERE. AND HOW OFTEN IS LACROSSE USING THE FIELD NOW? I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY ARE USING IT. THE OTHER THING TO BRING UP IS JUST PARKING SPACES. SO THE GOAL WAS TO SEE IF WE COULD FIND ENOUGH PARKING FOR 50 VEHICLES SIMULTANEOUSLY. WITH THE WAY THINGS ARE LAID OUT, WE RIGHT NOW ARE AT 62 POTENTIAL SPOTS WITH ANOTHER 14 IF WE ADDED AND I KIND OF SHOWED IT IN LITTLE GRAY BOXES THERE SO POTENTIAL FOR SOME PARALLEL PARKING STILL ALONG WILLOW WHERE THE SHOULDER IS. THIS NEXT SLIDE IS THE GRADING PLAN SOME OF WHICH WAS SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN BUT I JUST HIGHLIGHTED THIS TO KIND OF SHOW SOME OF THE DIFFERENCES SO THE ONE BIG THING TO POINT OUT IS THE OTHER FEATURE THAT WE'VE ADDED TO ADDRESS THE DRAINAGE AND TO MEET OUR STORMWATER REQUIREMENTS IS A STORM TREATMENT POND IN THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE FIELD. I'VE SHOWN HERE WITH THE BLUE THE DRAINAGE ARROWS THE DIRECTION OF THE DRAINAGE. [00:55:01] ALL THE ENTIRE SITE IS SET TO DRAIN THAT WAY. WE ALSO HAVE DRAIN TILE SHOWN ALONG THE PERIMETER OF THE FIELDS ALSO TAKING WATER DOWN TO THAT AREA. AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS ADJUSTING THE GRADING PREDOMINANTLY UP HERE IN THE NORTHWEST CORNER TO REMOVE THE BERM FROM THE OLD ICE RINK TO PROVIDE A GRADUAL SLOPE THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE PARK. SO THE DRAIN TILE IS JUST, CAN YOU POINT TO WHERE THAT IS AGAIN? RIGHT HERE. SO LET'S HAVE A... WE TALKED ABOUT IT. WE SAID WE WEREN'T GOING TO USE DRAIN TILES, SO NOW THEY ARE GOING TO USE DRAIN TILES. I ASKED THEM TO ADD IT IN BECAUSE IT WAS MISSING ON THE 85% DESIGN SHEETS. AND WHY DID WE DECIDE TO ADD IT IN? TO ENSURE THAT WE FIXED THE DRAINAGE PROBLEM FOR THEM AND WE DIDN'T HAVE TO BACK IN AND PUT THEM IN. IT'S MUCH CHEAPER AND EASIER TO PUT THE DRAIN TILES IN. NO, I UNDERSTAND IT. IT'S JUST THAT, YEAH, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT IT AND YOU HAD SAID WE WEREN'T GOING TO USE DRAIN TILE, SO I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHEN THAT CHANGED. YEAH, NO, THEY JUST DIDN'T HAVE IT IN THERE. I DON'T KNOW THAT I'D EVER SAID WE WEREN'T GOING TO HAVE IT. IT WAS NOT SHOWN IN THE PREVIOUS SETS OF THE SYSTEM. RIGHT. IT WAS ONE OF THE COMMENTS WE GAVE BACK TO THEM. YOU SHOULD SHOVE THE DRAIN TILE. AND I THINK NOW, DOESN'T SOME OF THE DRAINAGE GO ACROSS THE ROAD, ACROSS WILLOW? THE OVERALL DRAINAGE PATTERN FOR THE AREA, YES, AND THAT CONTINUES. OKAY. THERE'S STILL GOING TO BE A CULVERT UNDERNEATH? CORRECT. THERE'LL BE A STRUCTURE HERE THAT TAKES THE WATER AND THEN TAKES IT ACROSS UNDERNEATH WILLOW. IT WILL ACTUALLY USE THE EXISTING PIPE THAT GOES UNDERNEATH THERE NOW, TIED IN WITH THE STRUCTURE AT THE END OF THAT INFILTRATION BASIN. THE OTHER DRAINAGE THAT THE ROAD DRAINAGE COMING FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD WILL STILL CROSS AT BASICALLY THE TWO CORNERS LANDSCAPING PLAN UM SO WHAT THIS ONE SHOWS YOU IS THE PLAN FOR LANDSCAPING SO FIRST OF ALL JUST THE GREEN THERE IS TURF GRASS WHERE WE HAVE TO RESTORE. THAT DOESN'T MEAN THERE'S NOT GRASS IN THE WHITE AREAS. IT'S JUST WE'RE NOT TOUCHING IT, SO WE DON'T EXPECT TO HAVE TO RESTORE IT. THE LIGHT GREEN CIRCLES ARE DEPICTING NEW TREES. THE DARKER GREEN CLOUDS, IF YOU WILL, ARE DEPICTING EXISTING TREES. IN YELLOW IN HERE WE HAVE A POLLINATOR GRASSES AND PERENNIALS AREA IN THE MIDDLE OF THE INFILTRATION ON AND THEN IN GREEN OR SORRY BLUE WE'RE SPECIFYING A RAIN GARDEN SEED MIX IN THE DITCH WAY SO BASICALLY ALL OF THE AREA BETWEEN THE PARKING LOT AS WELL AS THE SIDEWALK AND THE ROAD I'LL BE A RAIN GARDEN SEED MIX NOT BE A MODE TURF AND THEN THE HARD PART, REMOVALS. SO THE PLAN DOES REQUIRE THE REMOVAL OF A NUMBER OF TREES. AGAIN, I'VE TRIED TO OVERLAY THE TREE PLAN ON HERE SO YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE NEW TREES ARE GOING TO REPLACE THE OLD. ALL OF THE RED X'S REPRESENT A TREE THAT NEEDS TO BE REMOVED. THOSE THAT HAVE A YELLOW CIRCLE KIND OF AROUND THEM, THOSE ARE EXISTING ASH TREES THAT ARE EITHER DEAD OR DYING IN THE PARK. SO WE DO HAVE A NUMBER OF ASH TREES ALONG. THE MAPLE LANE THAT WILL BE REMOVED. THERE'S SOME TREES IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PARK FROM THE OLD HOME AREA THAT WAS THERE THAT NEED TO BE REMOVED. ASH OVER HERE. AND THEN THERE ARE FIVE MAPLES ALONG WILLOW RIGHT NOW THAT NEED TO BE REMOVED BECAUSE THEY SIT IN THE WAY OF THE STORM POND AND THE PARKING LOT. THE SHELTER. ORIGINALLY... I STARTED TO DROP THIS FROM THE PLAN UNTIL WE DID THE 85% BRIEF, AND THEN I HEARD FROM AT LEAST ONE COUNCIL MEMBER THEY'D LIKE TO SEE THIS BACK IN. SO WE HAD TEMPLATED WHERE IT WAS GOING TO BE, BUT WE HAD PULLED IT OUT OF THE PLAN, SO I PULLED IT BACK IN. SO THIS WAS THE CONCEPT THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT EARLY IN DESIGN FOR A SHELTER. AGAIN, ORIGINALLY DEFERRED BECAUSE OF COST. SO THE IDEA WITH THIS SHELTER WAS TO MEET TWO THINGS. ONE WAS TO PROVIDE A SHELTERED AREA FOR PICNIC TABLES AND THAT SORT OF THING. NOT TO TAKE AWAY FROM PICNIC TABLES, IT MIGHT BE ON THE OTHER SIDE [01:00:01] OF THE PARK AS WE HEARD EARLIER. THOSE CAN STILL BE THERE. THIS IS FOR NEW BATCH ON THE SOUTH SIDE KIND OF FEEDING THAT MORE ACTIVE PLAY. SPORTS AREA PART OF THE PARK AND THEN SINCE WE WERE GOING TO BUILD A STRUCTURE WE LOOKED AT PROVIDING A RESTROOM FACILITY AS WE DO HAVE WATER AVAILABLE ON SITE IN THE FORM OF A WELL AND WE DO HAVE SEWER ADJACENT TO THE SITE IF THIS IS NOT BUILT, THEN WE WOULD LOOK AT STILL HAVING PROBABLY IN THIS EXACT SAME LOCATION IF WE DIDN'T BUILD IT, WE CAN OBVIOUSLY PLUMB IT IN. YES. SO WE DO HAVE, REGARDLESS, THE RECOMMENDATION WILL BE TO, IF WE WEREN'T TO BUILD THIS AS PART OF THE ORIGINAL PHASE OR PHASE ONE, WOULD BE TO ENSURE THAT WE STUB IN THE SEWER, STUB IN THE WATER, SO IT'S THERE IN THE FUTURE. SO IF THIS ISN'T PART OF THE INITIAL PHASE, IF IT WAS PART OF THE FUTURE PHASE, THAT'S ALL THERE AND READY FOR IT, WHICH IS PART OF THE REASON OF TRYING TO TEMPLATE WHERE IT WOULD GO ON THE PLANS. GOOD NIGHT. SO DESIGN RESULTS, JUST TO BRING IT ALL BACK TO THINGS THAT WE HEARD, WE NEEDED TO REPLACE THE EQUIPMENT, THE PARKING SAFETY, THE DEAD AND DYING TREES, AND THE DRAINAGE. SO WE THINK ALL THOSE HAVE BEEN ACHIEVED WITH THE DESIGN AS WE HAD. AND THEN IN PARTICULAR, AS WE WENT THROUGH OUR TWO ROUNDS OF PUBLIC COMMENT OR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT EARLY ON, THE THINGS WE HEARD WERE TO KEEP THE SOUTH SOFT. BALL FIELD DONE KEEP THE SLEDDING HILL DONE KEEP AND PLANT TREES DONE SAFER PARKING YES A MULTI-USE FIELD YES POLLINATOR PLANTS YES PICNIC TABLES YES STORM WATER IMPROVEMENTS BETTER SIGNAGE RESTROOM AND MAKE THE PARK MORE ADA AND I DID NOT I WAS REMISS I WILL GO BACK TO THE SITE PLAN THESE UH THIS GRAY UH REPRESENTS UH AN ADA ACCESSIBLE UM SIDEWALK UM ORIGINALLY ON THE CONCEPT SITE, WE HAD IT GOING AROUND THE ENTIRE PERIMETER AFTER SOME COORDINATION AND INPUT. WE KEPT IT JUST ALONG THE PARKING LOT AND ALONG THE BALL FIELDS AND THEN UP AND AROUND TO MEET TO THE PLAYGROUND. AND THE IDEA BEING THAT FROM THE PRIMARY PARKING OR THE OTHER PARKING AREAS, YOU CAN GET TO ANY OF THE MAIN AMENITIES IN THE PARK WITH AN ACCESSIBLE. COST AND FUNDING. SO THE BASE CONSTRUCTION, SO WHAT I'VE HAD THE DESIGNERS DO SO FAR AS WE'VE STARTED TO PREPARE THE DESIGN IS HAVE WHAT'S CALLED A BASE AND THEN AN ALTERNATE AS A WAY OF BIDDING OUT PROJECTS. SO IN THE BASE IS PRETTY MUCH ALL THE AMENITIES THAT YOU SAW THERE EXCEPT FOR THE SHELTER AND EXCEPT FOR THE PARKING. STALLS AROUND THE PERIMETER, OUTSIDE PERIMETER OF THE PARK. AND SO JUST TO DO THE BASE CONSTRUCTION, THE CONSTRUCTION ITSELF, $797,000 IS THE ESTIMATE. ONCE YOU ADD IN SOME CONTINGENCY AND SOFT ENGINEERING, THE BASE COST CONSTRUCTION TOTAL WILL BE JUST AT $1 MILLION. PAVILION, WE'RE PROJECTING A COST OF $285,000 TO BUILD THE PAVILION. AGAIN, THESE ARE ALL PRELIMINARY. LEVEL COST THESE ARE NOT BID PRICES UM AND UM I HAVE A HUNDRED AND FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS OF WORK TO PUT THE GRASS PAVED SHOULDERS ALONG THOSE ROADS UM SO FIRST TO TALK ABOUT THE GRASS PAVED SHOULDERS UH ONE OF THE THINGS IS WE DO HAVE THOSE ROADS THOSE THREE ROADS ON OUR PAVEMENT PLAN UH FOR 2028 TO BE MILL AND OVERLAID AND SO ONE OF THE THOUGHTS IS TO HOLD OFF ON DOING THE GRASS-PAVED SHOULDERS UNTIL WE DO THE MILL AND OVERLAY ON THOSE ROADS, TIE THOSE TWO TOGETHER. IT GOES REALLY NICE TO DO THE SHOULDERS WHEN YOU'RE DOING THE REST OF THE ROAD, AND ALSO IF WE WERE TO DO THE SHOULDERS, SAY, THIS YEAR AS AN EXAMPLE, AND THEN WE CAME IN WITH A MILLING MACHINE ALONG THE ASPHALT, THERE IS A CHANCE THAT MILLING MACHINE CLIPS SOME OF THE STUFF WE JUST INSTALLED AND RUINS IT. SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THOUGHTS I HAD WAS WE'LL... IF WE DEFER THAT AND TIE IT INTO THE ROAD PROJECT. NO, YOU'VE TIED IT. SORRY, I DON'T MEAN TO TALK OVER YOU, BUT I WANT TO INJECT THAT. WE HAD TALKED ABOUT ELM POSSIBLY BEING A ONE-WAY. I KNOW THE NEIGHBORS WERE EXCITED ABOUT TRYING THAT AND THEN HAVING PARKING ON ONE SIDE, SINCE TECHNICALLY ELM IS NOT A REAL STREET. WE ALREADY HAVE AN ELM STREET ELSEWHERE IN ORONO. HAVE WE THOUGHT ABOUT THAT? I KNOW I WAS LOOKING AT YOUR [01:05:02] ROAD PROJECTS. I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING LIKE THAT WRITTEN IN THERE. IS THAT ANYTHING YOU'VE ANTICIPATED OR THOUGHT ABOUT ANYMORE? NO, OTHER THAN I THINK THAT'S A GREAT DISCUSSION TO HAVE AS WE DO THOSE ROADS. FUNCTIONALLY A STRIPING EXERCISE, A PROCEDURAL EXERCISE TO CHANGE THE DESIGNATION OF THAT ROAD. AND THEN WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO PUT THE GREEN PAVER SHOULDERS ON THAT NORTH SIDE THEN BECAUSE WE'D ALREADY HAVE PARKING ON THE ROAD. CORRECT. AND PLAYING THAT SCENARIO OUT, IF WE REALLY WANTED TO MAKE IT ONE WAY WITH PARALLEL PARKING. TAKING UP ONE OF THE LANES, WE COULD ALSO LOOK AT DO WE PAVE TWO LANES WIDTH WHEN WE REPAVE IT, OR DO YOU PAVE ONE LANE WIDTH AND GRASS PAVE THE OTHER TO PROVIDE THAT PARKING? SO THERE'S SOME DESIGN OPTIONS THAT WE COULD LOOK AT AS WE WOULD GET INTO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. OKAY. SO IF WE DID EVERYTHING UP FRONT, WE'RE AT 1.4 MILLION. AND THEN THE OTHER THING, THERE'S ABOUT $12,000 WORTH OF CITY-PROVIDED AND INSTALLED ITEMS IN THE OVERALL DESIGN. WE ARE EXPECTING THAT WE WILL PROCURE AND INSTALL THE BENCHES, TABLES, BIKE RACK, AND TRASH RECEPTACLES AS PART OF OUR OVERALL PROGRAM. WE HAVE THE CAPABILITY. CAN WE BREAK DOWN THE CATEGORIES HERE A LITTLE BIT? WHAT IS MOBILIZATION FOR $70,000? MOBILIZATION IS THE COST THAT YOU PAY ANY CONTRACTOR TO COME AND DO YOUR PROJECT. THAT COVERS ALL OF THEIR COSTS TO HAUL THEIR EQUIPMENT THERE AND AWAY. THERE ARE COSTS TO SET UP THE SITE FOR CONSTRUCTION. SO MOBILIZATION IS A COST ITEM THAT'S IN ANY CONSTRUCTION PROJECT WHICH ACCOUNTS FOR THOSE THINGS THAT THE CONTRACTOR HAS TO DO TO TAKE ON THE PROJECT. ALL RIGHT, AND WHEN WE'RE TALKING... DEMOLITION, DOES THAT INCLUDE THE TAKING DOWN OF THE TREES? OKAY. AND THE EROSION? THAT'S INSTALLING THE EROSION CONTROL AND DOING SOME OF THE STORMWATER WORK. OKAY. THE UTILITIES, WE WANT TO MOVE THE WATER ACROSS. WE'VE GOT TO MOVE THE WATER ACROSS. WE'VE GOT TO ADD A STUB FOR THE SEWER CONNECTION. AND THERE IS SOME STORMWATER. CULVER. OKAY. EARTHWORK, WE KNOW THAT YOU WANTED TO CHANGE SOME OF THE GRADING. PAVING. SO DOES THAT INCLUDE THE PARKING LOT WITH THE GRASS PAVERS? OR IS THAT, OKAY, AND THE SIDEWALKS? IS THAT INCLUDED IN THERE TOO? YES, I BELIEVE SO. AND THE SITE WORK FOR MOVING THE BALL FIELDS, THAT'S THE $123,000? YES, THAT'S MOSTLY ALL THE THINGS THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THE BALL FIELD. SO FENCING, BACKSTOPS, BASES, THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. OKAY, AND THE LANDSCAPING, THAT'S JUST ALL THE TREES WE'RE BRINGING IN? TREES, GRASS, SEEDS, PLANTS, AND THE PREP WORK THAT GOES ALONG WITH GETTING THOSE IN AS WELL AS THEY'LL HAVE TO. AND WHERE DO WE HAVE BOLTON AND MINK'S COSTS IN THIS? THOSE ARE SOFT. THAT'S A SOFT COST ENGINEERING SURVEY, OKAY SO THIS STAFF WE SAT DOWN TO LOOK AT HOW HOW WE COULD BREAK DOWN THE COST FOR THESE AND THAT'S WHAT THIS OTHER SECTION HERE IS ON FUNDING SOURCES SO FROM THE PARKS FUND FOR THE BASE PROJECT WE SEE EIGHT HUNDRED AND NINETEEN THOUSAND SOME CHANGE WE ADD THE ALTERNATE IN PARTICULAR THE PAVILION. THERE'S ANOTHER 76,000 THERE OUR STORMWATER FUND WOULD FUND 126,800 THAT'S ANYTHING WE CAN ATTRIBUTE TO STORMWATER. THERE'S SOME CURBING WE HAVE TO DO ON WILLOW THERE'S A POND. THERE'S THE NEW STORMWATER PIPES THAT SORT OF THING WE HAVE BEEN TALKING WITH THE ORONO BASEBALL ASSOCIATION, TRYING TO SEE IF WE CAN GET COMMITMENT. THEY HAVE NOT COMMITTED TO ANYTHING OTHER THAN THEY WANT TO WORK WITH US, BUT I HAVE $54,000, $55,000 IN THERE. IF THEY WERE TO COMMIT TO THAT LEVEL, THAT PAYS FOR THE BACKSTOPS, THE BASES, BASELINE FENCING. WOULD THOSE BALL FIELDS ONLY BE USED FOR BASEBALL OR SOFTBALL CANDIDATE AS WELL? YEAH, ANYBODY COULD USE ANY YOUTH. [01:10:02] DO YOU USE THEM OR ANY RESIN SHOWS UP AND WANTS TO... YEAH, I GUESS I'M THINKING OF THE AG-LIME INTERIOR, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE OUTFIELD ALSO DOUBLES AS A... PLAY FIELD. PLAY FIELD FOR WHOEVER. YEAH. BUT, YEAH, I MEAN, WE COULD ASK SOME OF THOSE OTHER, AND MY POINT IS WE COULD ASK SOME OF THOSE OTHER YOUTH ASSOCIATIONS TO CHIP IN. YES, YES, WE CAN. WE CAN'T DO THAT AMOUNT. HISTORICALLY, WHEN WE'VE DONE THESE KIND OF PROJECTS, THE BASEBALL ASSOCIATION HAS BEEN THE MOST FORTHCOMING, PARTICULARLY BECAUSE THE FIELD THAT THEY NEED ARE SPECIFIC TO THEIR SPORT. YEAH. SO WE HAVE BEEN ENGAGING WITH THEM ON THAT. OKAY. HAVE WE REACHED OUT TO THE MINNESOTA TWINS? DO THEY STILL DO GRANTS? THEY DO. WE'RE OUT OF CYCLE FOR THAT RIGHT NOW. WE ALSO DID PUT IN FOR THE GRANT FOR THE SPORTS GRANT. THAT'S THE ONE WE DIDN'T GET. CORRECT. WHICH IS OPEN AGAIN WITH SUBMISSIONS FOR MAY 7TH. THE ONLY DOWNSIDE IS THE MONEY IS NOT AVAILABLE UNTIL SEPTEMBER OF THIS YEAR. TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PUT IN A GRANT FOR THAT, SEE IF THERE'S ELEMENTS OF THIS THAT I COULD SAY, HEY, WE WON'T DO THAT UNTIL PHASE TWO, WHICH IS AFTER SEPTEMBER. BUT THE CHALLENGE IS MOST OF THE THINGS WE WOULDN'T DO UNTIL AFTER SEPTEMBER ARE NOT THE SPORTS PARTS OF THE PROJECT, WHICH IS WHAT THAT GRANT IS REALLY FOR. SO THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A I'M HAVING A LITTLE CHALLENGE TRYING TO FIND THE NEXUS OF THE THINGS THAT WE WE CAN'T PUT THE STUFF IN AND THEN ASK FOR PAYMENT AFTERWARDS. WELL YES, BUT THEY SPECIFICALLY SAY IN THEIR GRANT APPLICATION THIS IS FOR THINGS THAT ARE DONE AFTER SEPTEMBER GOT IT SO YES, WE CAN I MEAN THAT'S THE WAY THE GRANTS ALL WORK ANYWAYS, THEY'RE IN YOU PUT THE MATERIAL IN AND THEN YOU HAVE TO TURN IN RECEIPTS TO GET REIMBURSED THE WE IDENTIFIED THE COMMUNITY INVESTMENT FUND AS A POSSIBLE FUNDING SOURCE FOR THE PAVILION. IF WE WANTED TO DO THAT, WE TOOK A LOOK AT OUR FUNDING PLANS. WE HAD $208,715 PROGRAM TO MOVE FROM THE COMMUNITY INVESTMENT FUND INTO THE FACILITIES FUND IN 26 AND 27. INSTEAD, WE COULD DIVERT THAT TO USING FOR THE PAVILION. THERE WAS ONLY $208,000 THERE. THAT'S THE REASON THERE'S THAT $76,000, AND THE PARKS GOT IN TO HAVE ANOTHER GOOD SPOT FOR THAT TO MAKE UP THE WHOLE $285,000. WAS THAT $208,000 EARMARKED FOR SOMETHING ELSE? NO, IT WAS GOING INTO THE FACILITIES FUND, WHICH, DEPENDING ON WHAT WE DO, REPLACING ROOFS OVER AT THE FUTURE REC CENTER, OLD PUBLIC WORKS, WHATEVER WE'RE CALLING IT, ALL THOSE THINGS CAN KIND OF BE MOVED AROUND. SO THAT MONEY WAS AVAILABLE AND THEN I'D ALSO HEARD THERE WAS SOME WILL FROM SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS TO USE SOME OF THAT KIND OF MONEY. ALSO LOOKING AT TRYING TO USE SOME OF THE GRANT, THE MUNICIPAL TREE GRANT, AS WE CAN FOR SOME OF THIS BECAUSE WE COULD POTENTIALLY USE IT FOR SOME OF THE ASH TREE REMOVALS AND REPLACEMENTS. AND THEN I DON'T HAVE MONEY THERE, BUT THERE MAY BE SOME COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS OUT THERE WHO MIGHT TYPE PROJECT. I DON'T HAVE ANY. SO I GUESS THE LONG STORY SHORT IS WE BELIEVE THERE IS ADEQUATE FUNDING AND VARIOUS SOURCES TO DO THE COMPLETE PROJECT IF THAT IS WHAT WE WOULD WANT TO DO. BUT I WOULD, EVEN IF WE DO THE PAVILION UP FRONT, I WOULD STILL RECOMMEND HOLDING OFF ON THE GRASS ON THE SHOULDERS UNTIL WE TIE THAT WITH THE STREET. I THINK THAT JUST MAKES MORE AMAZING AND CONSTRUCTIVE. SEEMS LIKE THE PAVILION WOULD BE A NICE PLACE FOR SOME OF OUR LOCAL COMMUNITY SERVICE CLUBS TO PARTICIPATE IN. AND THEY HAVE IN THE PAST, AND THAT'S THE REASON I KIND OF, THERE MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY THERE. YEAH. BUT EVEN IF THEY DON'T, WE COULD STILL AFFORD TO DO IT. THE FINAL THING I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT BEFORE WE KIND OF GO BACK TO SOME OF THE FUNDING PHASING IS VERY RECENTLY WE'VE HAD QUESTIONS OR INTEREST IN DOING SOMETHING WITH THE BASKETBALL COURT AREA. SO I'M CALLING THIS THE BASKETBALL COURT AREA CHANGE ORDER. ORIGINALLY, THE ENTIRE AREA UP ON TOP OF THAT HILL WAS IDENTIFIED TO... BE HELD OUT OF THE PROJECT FOR FUTURE PROJECTS THAT WE WOULD [01:15:01] THINK ABOUT AND DO. AT SOME POINT, WE'VE GOT TO DO SOME THINGS WITH THE PLAYGROUND, ALTHOUGH IT'S IN PRETTY GOOD CONDITION. BUT THE OTHER WAS THE BASKETBALL COURT. WHAT I'VE HEARD RECENTLY WAS A DESIRE TO TAKE THE TO RESURFACE THE BASKETBALL COURT MAYBE TURN IT 180 DEGREES MAYBE PUT FENCING AROUND IT MAYBE PUT SOME PICNIC TABLE PADS IN SO JUST FOR THAT VERY LOOSE CONCEPT I CAME UP WITH THIS AGAIN BASED ON A VERY LOOSE CONCEPT AND SOME PRICING WE HAVE ON SOME OF THESE ITEMS RECENTLY THAT I WAS ABLE TO USE AND TRY TO DRAW. SO THE PICTURE UP HERE KIND OF SHOWS THAT AREA WITH MY CRUDE DRAWING ON HERE. THIS IS MEANT TO BE A SIDEWALK WITH SOME KIND OF PICNIC TABLE PADS, 10 BY 10 PADS UNDERNEATH. THIS REPRESENTS THE BASKETBALL COURT TURNED 180 DEGREES. IT CURRENTLY SITS HERE. SORRY, 90 DEGREES. SORRY, 90 DEGREES. SO ALL THAT'S POSSIBLE. ONE THING IS I COULDN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO THAT AND KEEP THE SAME DIMENSIONS OF THE BASKETBALL COURT WITHOUT TAKING OUT AT LEAST ONE TREE, ADDITIONAL TREE THAT WE DID NOT HAVE TO TAKE OUT. AND THEN THE COSTS HERE ARE BASED ON DOING ALL THOSE THINGS. IF WE WANTED TO DO IT, REMOVING THE BITUMINOUS. THE TREE REMOVAL, CREATING A SPORTS COURT SLAB AND A SPORTS COURT SURFACE, A BASKETBALL COURT. GALVANIZED FENCING 12 FEET HIGH, WHICH IS FAIRLY STANDARD FOR BASKETBALL-TYPE FENCING. FOUR-INCH THICK CONCRETE 10X10 PADS. ANOTHER BASKETBALL OR TWO BASKETBALL HOOPS, ONE TO REPLACE THE CURRENT ONE. POTENTIALLY A NET SYSTEM, WHICH IS WHAT WE DID DOWN IN THE NAVARRE WHEN WE REDID THAT ONE. AND THEN I PUT SOME DESIGN AND SOME CONTINGENCY DOLLARS IN THERE. IF WE WERE TO DO ALL THAT STUFF, AGAIN, IT'S A VERY CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATE, $93,000. AND I DO NOT HAVE THAT YET. THAT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THE NUMBERS. THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT COULD BE USED FOR A FUTURE GRANT REQUEST, RIGHT? THERE IS, YOU KNOW, ALTHOUGH IT WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE PLANNED TO DO AS PART OF THIS PROJECT, IF WE DID INCLUDE IT WITH THE PROJECT, THERE ARE... THERE ARE SOME POTENTIAL COST SAVINGS OF INCLUDING IT WITH THIS CURRENT PROJECT IN THAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING ASPHALT WORK, AND WE'RE ALREADY DOING CONCRETE WORK, AND WE'RE ALREADY DOING FENCING WORK AS PART OF THE BIG PROJECT. SO HAVING THOSE ADDED IN TO AN EXISTING PROJECT WITH BIGGER COMPONENTS THAT ARE SIMILAR PROBABLY HAS SOME POTENTIAL COST SAVINGS OVER DOING THIS AS A SEPARATE PROJECT LATER ON WHERE WE HAVE SMALLER QUANTITIES AND WE'RE STILL PAYING SOME KIND OF MOBILIZATION FEE. I WAS TALKING ABOUT EARLIER FOR A CONTRACTOR TO COME DO THIS SMALLER, BUT MAYBE PERCENTAGE-WISE MORE. HOW MUCH DEMAND IS THERE FOR BASKETBALL THERE? DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA? ANECDOTALLY, IT'S USED. MAYBE SOME RESIDENTS CAN SAY HOW MUCH IT'S USED, BUT... OKAY, OKAY. YEAH, THE SAME WITH, I IMAGINE, THE PLAYGROUND LIKE MOST PLACES. YEAH, IF THE OLDER SIBLING IS PLAYING T-BALL OR WHATEVER OR VICE VERSA THEN THE PLAY GRANDKIDS SO THIS WOULD BE A VIEWS OF POSITIVE BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD YOU BELIEVE WOULD IT BOTHER YOU TO HAVE THAT FENCED IN OR WOULD YOU RATHER? JUST HAVE SOME POST IT COULD BE. THIS IS JUST ME THROWING DOWN A BUNCH OF STUFF ON A PIECE OF PAPER TO ANSWER A QUESTION. WE COULD PUT THE PADS ANYWHERE WE WANTED TO. IT COULD BE ONE SLAB. I WAS JUST TRYING TO REPRESENT THE AMOUNT OF CONCRETE NEEDED FOR FOUR PICNIC TABLES. HOW WE CONFIGURE THEM. IT COULD BE A SQUARE. IT COULD BE A RECTANGLE. SEPARATE PADS SPREAD OUT, HOWEVER. I LIKE THE PLAN OF HAVING AT LEAST FOUR UP THERE, THOUGH, IN SOME CONFIGURATION. I THINK TURNING THIS MAKES A TON OF SENSE IN CLOSING IT. I THINK THERE'S ONLY ONE HOOP THERE NOW, SO THEY REALLY CAN ONLY PLAY AT ONE END. PUTTING IN A SECOND HOOP, TURNING IT AVOIDS THE BALL HOPEFULLY GOING ONTO THE STREET. I THINK, TO ME, WHEN I LOOK AT THIS, I SEE THAT AS A RISK. SO I SEE A LOT OF POSITIVE. WITH TURNING THIS NORTH-SOUTH, FENCING IT IN, KEEPING FOLKS [01:20:01] IN, AND SO THANKS FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER. I KNOW IT WAS A LAST-MINUTE CHANGE ORDER, AS YOU WILL. YEAH, IT'S A VERY CRUDE DRAWING. WE USED TO HAVE A SPORTS COURT IN OUR BACKYARD WHEN MY KIDS WERE GROWING UP, AND IT'S WONDERFUL. IT'S A GREAT SURFACE. YEAH, IT'S GOT ENOUGH GRAB FOR... FOR THE MORE SERIOUS PLAYERS, IT LASTS AND LASTS FOR A LONG TIME, TOO. I LIKE THE IDEA OF THE BASKETBALL COURT BEING RESURFACED AND POSSIBLY THE ORIENTATION CHANGE FOR SAFETY AND ADDING A HOOP. I'M STUCK ON THE FENCING BECAUSE WE'RE NOW, AND I WANT TO ADDRESS THE OTHER FENCING IN A MOMENT HERE ON THE TEE BALL FIELDS. ONE THING THAT BECAME CLEAR IN TALKING TO SOME OF THE PARK COMMISSIONERS IS THAT THIS IS A NEIGHBORHOOD PARK THAT ALSO OFFERS SPORTS. IT'S NOT A SPORTING COMPLEX. AND THAT VIEW AND THE WAY THAT THE PARK IS USED, THE MORE FENCING WE PUT UP, THE MORE BARRIERS WE PUT UP. AND IT IS A CONCERN OF MINE WITH THE AESTHETICS OF WHAT THIS PARK IS AS A NEIGHBORHOOD PARK TO CONSIDER THAT BEFORE WE ADD MORE GALVANIZED STEEL AT A NEIGHBORHOOD PARK. BECAUSE IT ALSO PREVENTS PEOPLE FROM MOVING EASILY THROUGH THAT SPACE. WHICH ISN'T GREAT EITHER. THE ORIENTATION THIS WAY WOULD ADDRESS THAT. SO NEXT STEPS, WE'RE AT ONE, WHICH IS DESIGN REVIEW AND PHASING DETERMINATION. I JUST KIND OF PUT PICTURES IN. AS SOON AS WE HAVE THAT DONE, WE GO OUT FOR, WE PUT THE BID PACKET TOGETHER ON THE SPECS, WHICH THE ACTUAL DESIGN'S AT 95%, SO THERE'S NOT... DO THEIR OUT FOR BIDS AND THEN WE BRING SOMETHING BACK TO THE COUNCIL FOR AWARD AND THEN CONSTRUCTION. SO LOOSE TIMING, ASSUMING WE HAVE GUIDANCE TONIGHT, WE MOVE FORWARD, GET THINGS OUT FOR BID IN THE MONTH OF MAY. MOST LIKELY BRINGING AND ASKING FOR AN AWARD IN JUNE. WE'LL LOOK AT HOLDING CONSTRUCTION UNTIL JULY TO LET THE BASEBALL, T-BALL FOLKS GET THROUGH THERE. IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT THIS IS A NATURAL TURF SO ONCE WE GET INTO DISTURBING THE NATURAL TURF AND PUTTING GRASS SEED DOWN WE WILL WE WILL LOSE ONE SEASON OF PLAYABILITY ON THE TURF. IDEALLY WE WOULD PLANT SOME SEED, PUT SOME SEED IN THE GROUND THIS FALL, EITHER EARLY ENOUGH TO GET IT TO GERMINATE OR LATE ENOUGH NOT TO GERMINATE, BUT IT'S GOING TO TAKE ALL OF NEXT SPRING AND EARLY. THICKNESS AND DENSITY THAT WE CAN ALLOW CHILDREN TO PLAY ON IT WITHOUT YOU KNOW PROBABLY DAMAGING IT AT LEAST FOR ORGANIZED SPORTS. KIDS JUST WANDERING ONTO IT FINE BUT THE ORGANIZED STUFF WILL TEAR UP. T-BALL WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO PLAY NEXT SPRING? NOT UNLESS THEY JUST STAYED ON THE AG LINE. MOSTLY STAYED. WHICH MEANS THEY COULD USE IT. AND THERE MAY BE SOME THINGS WE CAN WORK WITH THEM TOO ON THAT. IF THAT'S WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO YOU KNOW WITH SOME TEMPORARY FENCING OR SOMETHING. COULD YOU GO BACK TO THAT PICTURE THAT WE JUST SHOWED JUST BEFORE WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THE BASKETBALL? I HAVE A REALLY HARD TIME WITH US LOSING THOSE MAPLE TREES ON WILLOW. AND THE REASON IS, IT'S JUST WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW, IS THAT IF WE PUT NEW TREES IN, AND I KNOW WE'RE PUTTING A LOT OF THEM IN, BUT IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LONG TIME UNTIL WE GET THAT EFFECT. AND I'VE GOT A PROPERTY ON A ROAD WHERE THEY JUST, HENNEPIN COUNTY IS GOING TO WIDEN IT, AND THEY JUST TOOK DOWN PROBABLY TEN HUNDRED YEAR OLD OAK TREES AND IT JUST JUST LOOKS TERRIBLE BECAUSE ALL THESE HUGE STUMPS ARE SITTING THERE NOW SO IF THERE'S ANY WAY [01:25:01] TO PUSH THE WHOLE PROJECT TO THE WEST SO WE CAN SAVE THOSE TREES, I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT, ADAM, BUT I'D REALLY LOVE TO SEE IF WE COULD KEEP THOSE TREES. I KNOW ONE OF THEM WE WERE GOING TO LOSE BECAUSE OF THE EXIT OF THE PARKING LOT, FOR SURE. THOSE FIVE TREES, THERE'S REALLY NOT A WAY TO KEEP THOSE AND STILL DO THE PROJECT. WHERE WE GET THE CONFLICT IS BETWEEN THE MAIN COMPONENTS OF THE DESIGN, WHICH IS MAXIMIZING THE PLAY IN THE GREEN SPACE. AND THEN ADDRESSING THE STORMWATER AND THE PARKING. SO ONE OF THOSE TREES IS RIGHT WHERE THE PARKING LOT COMES OUT. I KNEW THAT ONE WAS GOING TO BE LOST. AND THREE OF THEM ARE WHERE THE STORMWATER NEEDS TO GO. AND THE CHALLENGE IS, AND WHAT WE LOOKED AT AS WELL, WHAT IF WE REDESIGNED TO SAVE THOSE TREES? WELL, EVERYTHING PUSHES 20 TO 30 FEET TO THE WEST, WHICH BASICALLY MAKES THIS BALL FIELD UNPLAYABLE. WE'RE ALREADY MOVING IT ABOUT 10 FEET. AND THAT'S BECAUSE WE'RE CONSTRAINED BY THIS HILL ON THAT SIDE. SO THAT'S KIND OF HOW WE LOOKED AT IT. AND JUST TO REASSURE EVERYONE, AS WE STARTED TO LOOK AT THAT AND GO, THERE'S NO WAY TO SAVE THOSE FIVE TREES, WHAT DO WE DO TO COMPENSATE? THAT'S WHY WE KIND OF HAVE SO MANY REPLACEMENT TREES, BECAUSE WE KEPT GOING BACK TO LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT AND SAYING, GIVE US SOME MORE AND GIVE US SOME MORE DIVERSITY, AND PARTICULARLY ALONG THAT AREA. AND I DO THINK THAT... ONCE WE GET DONE AND THESE THINGS ARE IN, IT WILL LOOK PRETTY GOOD BECAUSE YOU'LL HAVE AN OFFSET FROM THE ROAD WITH NATURAL GRASSES, POLLINATOR MIXES, AND A MIX OF SHRUBS AND TREES, GRANTED IMMATURE TREES, ALONG THAT AREA, WHICH IS, I THINK, GOING TO GIVE A DECENT LOOK TO THE SITE. AND ALSO, I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND BECAUSE THAT WHOLE... THE STREET USED TO BE LINED WITH TREES. MOST OF THEM WERE ASH, AND SO THERE USED TO BE 15, 20 TREES THERE. NOW ALL THE ONES ON THE SOUTH SIDE ARE ALL STUMPS BECAUSE WE HAD TO TAKE THEM. OH, YOU MEAN IN WATERTOWN? NO, SORRY, ON THE SOUTH PART OF WILLOW. THERE USED TO BE TREES ALONG THAT WHOLE, BOULEVARD TREES ALONG THAT WHOLE ROADWAY. OH, YOU MEAN PAST WATERTOWN AND STUFF? NO, NO, JUST NORTH OF MAPLE. SO THERE USED TO BE, THERE'S NOT NOW. WHERE THE STORMWATER POND IS. YEAH, THERE USED TO BE TREES ALL ALONG HERE. IF YOU GO THERE, MOST OF THE STUMPS ARE STILL THERE. WELL, I SHARE THE SAME CONCERN BECAUSE I'M LOOKING BACK AT COMMUNICATIONS FROM JUST EARLY THIS YEAR, END OF LAST YEAR FROM THE PARK COMMISSION, AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE BIGGEST ASKS. WAS PRESERVING MATURE TREES. THERE ARE FIVE MATURE SILVER MAPLE. THEY'RE NOT ASH. AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT DIRECTIVES BECAUSE IT CHANGES THE FUNDAMENTAL NATURE OF THE PARK. IT CHANGES THE LOOK OF IT, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT PUTTING IN A PICNIC SHELTER FOR PRESUMABLY SHADE, BECAUSE THERE WILL BE NONE, AND CUTTING DOWN MATURE TREES. SO THAT'S A TOUGH ONE FOR ME PERSONALLY BECAUSE THAT'S PART OF THE CHARACTER OF THIS PARK. IT'S A BIG PART OF THE CHARACTER OF THE PARK. AND I UNDERSTAND WE'VE HAD TO CUT DOWN DISEASE TREES ELSEWHERE, BUT THAT'S NOT THE CASE HERE. AND THE PARK COMMISSION, AT LEAST THE LAST COMMUNICATION I RECEIVED, WAS VERY CLEAR ON THAT PRESERVATION BEING A PART OF THE PLAN. THAT'S MY FIRST FEEDBACK. AND THE SECOND ONE, AGAIN, FROM THE PARK COMMISSION IS THOSE FENCES. THEIR RECOMMENDATION WAS TO ELIMINATE THOSE VERY LONG FENCES THAT ARE NOW, ESPECIALLY ON THE NORTH SIDE, TAKING UP THREE QUARTERS OF THE LENGTH OR HALF THE LENGTH OF THE FIELD. AND THESE ARE SEVEN-YEAR-OLDS ESSENTIALLY PLAYING BALL THAT WE'RE BUILDING INFRASTRUCTURE FOR. AGAIN, THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE THE CHARACTER OF THE PARK AND ALSO REQUIRE MAINTENANCE INTO THE FUTURE, MORE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE STRUGGLE WITH RIGHT NOW MAINTAINING. SO, AGAIN, THESE WERE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM PARK COMMISSION THAT I HAPPEN TO AGREE WITH. I THINK ADDING MORE FENCING AND TAKING DOWN TREES, I DON'T SEE, AGAIN, THIS IS NOT A SPORTS COMPLEX. IT'S A NEIGHBORHOOD PARK THAT ACCOMMODATES VERY, VERY YOUNG CHILDREN WHO DON'T TYPICALLY HIT BALLS WAY FAR OUT OF THE BOUNDS OF THIS PARK. JUST AGAIN, SOME OF THOSE FENCES ARE NOT FOR BASEBALL. THEY'RE FOR THE OTHER SPORTS. REGARDLESS, ONE OF THE PIECES OF FEEDBACK I GOT IS FOR THE PARENTS WHO CURRENTLY WATCH THESE GAMES, LIKE ON THE NORTH SIDE, ARE LINING UP LAWN CHAIRS WHERE THERE WILL NOW BE A FENCE. SO DO THE PARENTS... IN OTHER WORDS, IT'S A CASUAL, VERY, VERY YOUNG PEOPLE WHO ARE PLAYING AT THIS FIELD. [01:30:02] THESE ARE NOT HIGH SCHOOL. THESE ARE NOT PEOPLE GETTING FOUL BALLS IN THE FACE. AND AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO CREATE ANOTHER BARRIER WHERE PARENTS IN... CHAIRS WHO ARE USED TO KIND OF NAVIGATING MORE FREELY IN THIS AREA ARE GOING TO BE BEHIND, OR I GUESS IN FRONT OF, A FENCE WHEN THEY'RE WATCHING THE T-BALL GAMES THERE. THAT FENCE IS EXTENDING. I DON'T KNOW, ADAM, WHERE IT IS NOW, BUT IT'S EXTENDING A LOT FURTHER, AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVED FROM OUR PARKS COMMISSION THAT ADVISES THIS PROJECT. SO THAT'S SOMETHING I TAKE SERIOUSLY AS A RECOMMENDATION. SO I GUESS I DON'T UNDERSTAND FOR SUCH VERY, VERY YOUNG CHILDREN, AND EVEN WITH LACROSSE, THESE ARE NOT HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS. THEY'RE YOUNG PLAYERS. WHY THAT AMOUNT OF INFRASTRUCTURE AND FENCING IS REQUIRED IN A SMALL PARK FOR YOUNG KIDS? I DON'T SEE IT BEING AN ASSET OR REALLY ADDING TO THE FEELING OF THIS SPACE. I CAN SPEAK ON IT. I COACH MY DAUGHTER'S T-BALL LEAGUE, AND WE'RE GOING UP TO SIX. SOFTBALL. SO WHERE THOSE FENCES COME IN HANDY IS WITH THIS AGE OF KID, YOU DON'T JUST PLAY A GAME, YOU HAVE USUALLY THE FIRST HALF HOUR, FIRST HALF OF THE GAME IS PRACTICE. SO YOU NEED TO, YOU KNOW, BREAK THE KIDS UP INTO GROUPS. THE FENCE IS THE PERFECT SPOT. YOU THROW SOME KIDS THERE, THEY'RE THROWING CATCH, THEY CAN'T REALLY CATCH. YOU'RE HAVING THEM HIT AGAINST THE FENCE, YOU'RE HAVING THEM KIND OF STAND THERE. IT'S A GOOD WAY TO KEEP THEM KIND OF IT'S A GOOD PLACE FOR THEM TO DO THOSE KIND OF LIKE DRILLS. AND THEN ALSO WHEN YOU HAVE THE KIDS OUT THERE, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE PARKING VERY CLOSE TO THE FIELD, IT'S JUST ANOTHER BARRIER TO KEEP THEM SAFE. THEY USUALLY, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE WATCH THE GAMES, YOU KNOW, WITH THE KIDS, PARENTS EITHER MAKE A CHOICE TO SIT ON THE FENCE AND, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN SEE PRETTY WELL IT'S A CHAIN FENCE. OR SOME OF THEM ARE LIKE, OH, I'M GOING TO SIT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FENCE. PUT MY STUFF UP AGAINST THE FENCE. SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A BARRIER. I KIND OF UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT, BUT TO MOST PEOPLE IT'S A BENEFIT OVERALL TO THE KIDS. IF WE'RE LOOKING HISTORICALLY AT WHO'S USED THE BALL FIELDS BEFORE, WE ARE TALKING T-BALL, RIGHT? YEAH. AND SO WITH THAT, I'M JUST WONDERING WHY WE CAN'T PUSH THIS FIELD. YOU KNOW, 10, 15 FEET TO SAVE THOSE TREES. AT LEAST A COUPLE OF THEM ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF WHERE THE WATER GARDEN'S GOING TO BE. I MEAN, IS THERE A REASON IT HAS TO BE THAT LONG ALL THE WAY TO THE PAVILION? THAT'S HALF THE PARK. AND I KNOW RIGHT NOW, TO YOUR POINT, WHERE THE TREES ARE MISSING. SO THE FILTRATION POND IS SIZED? TO MEET THE NEEDS OF NEEDS FOR THE PARK SO THAT'S WHY IT IS THE SIZE IT IS AND WE STILL CAN'T HAVE THAT KIND OF GO AROUND THE TREES. WELL, NO THIS SO THIS IS THIS IS AN INFILTRATION POND SO TO MEET OUR STORMWATER REQUIREMENTS WITH THE SOILS THAT WE HAVE ON SITE WE NEED TO BUILD WHICH MEANS WE BASICALLY ARE BUILDING ON TO DRAIN AND FILTER IN A CERTAIN WAY. SO IF YOU THINK ABOUT, THEY'RE GOING TO DIG OUT THIS SWATH OF DIRT, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO PUT DRAIN TILES IN, AND WE'RE GOING TO PUT A SAND MEDIUM, AND THEN SOIL, AND THEN PLANTINGS ON TOP OF THAT. THAT'S HOW IT WORKS. SO THE WATER COMES INTO THE POND, AND IT FILTERS DOWN THROUGH THE GRASS AND THE PLANTS AND THE SAND INTO THOSE DRAIN TILES, AND THEN THOSE DRAIN TILES EMPTY INTO THE STORMWATER STRUCTURE BEFORE THAT WATER SITE. SO IT HAS A FILTRATION PART. SO TRYING TO BUILD THAT, IT'S NOT JUST LIKE WE COULD JUST, YOU KNOW, DIG A HOLE AND GO AROUND ALL THE TREES. AND THE TREES THAT YOU HAVE THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT YOU WOULD NEED TO PRESERVE TO PRESERVE THE TREE, YOU BASICALLY HAVE TO LOOK AT THE CANOPY AND IMAGINE THAT THE CANOPY COMES ALL THE WAY TO THE GROUND. AND EVEN THEN THE ROOTS GO BEYOND THAT. BUT IF YOU DON'T AT LEAST PROTECT THAT, YOU PROBABLY WILL LOSE THE TREE. SO WE DID EXPLORE, WELL, CAN WE, YOU KNOW. CUT THE ROOTS ON HALF THE TREE AND STILL GET A POND IN AND MOVE IT OVER A LITTLE BIT. YEAH, WE DID LOOK AT THAT, BUT... KILL THE TREE, YEAH. YEAH, WE'RE PROBABLY KILLING THE TREE REGARDLESS. BUT AS YOU SPEAK, I MEAN, THEY'RE HUGE TREES. THAT'S WHY IT'S KIND OF NICE TO... I THINK PART OF THE PLAN, TOO, IS IF WE MOVE IT UP. YOU KNOW, PARK COMMISSION, WE DID TALK ABOUT THIS. I THINK WE CAME TO A POINT WHERE... [01:35:03] IT WAS SAD THAT WE'RE GOING TO LOSE THOSE TREES, BUT THERE DOESN'T SEEM TO BE ANOTHER WAY TO ORIENT THE FIELD WITHOUT LOSING THEM. BUT I THINK IF WE MOVE IT UP TOWARD OFF WILLOWMORE, WE'LL LOSE THE TWO TREES THAT ARE FROM MOVING IT, THE TWO OTHER TREES THAT ARE WHERE THE POND WILL HAVE TO BE. SO IT'S KIND OF THESE ONES, RIGHT? ARE WE HAVING TO INCREASE OUR STORMWATER CAPACITY? AT THIS SITE? YES, BECAUSE WE ARE DISTURBING OVER AN ACRE OF GROUND, SO NOW WE HAVE TO MEET STORMWATER QUALITY. WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO TAKE ON ANY OF THE HARDCOVER, MEET THE HARDCOVER REQUIREMENTS FOR THE SITE. SO WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO TREAT THE FIRST INCH OF RAINFALL OF ANY EVENT ON SITE BEFORE IT'S ALLOWED TO LEAVE THE SITE. SO YES, BY DISTURBING THE PARK, WE SUBJECT OURSELVES TO THE SAME RULES WE SUBJECT OTHERS TO WITH STORMWATER. JUST SO YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I PUSHED BACK WITH THE WATERSHED ON THIS, BUT ALL THAT AG LINE, IT'S JUST DIRT. IT'S CONSIDERED HARDCOVER. SO THE INFIELDS OF BOTH BASEBALL FIELDS ARE TREATED THE SAME AS A PARKING LOT, AS IS OUR GRASS PAVE, AS IS CONCRETE. IT ALL COUNTS AGAINST US, SO TO SPEAK, AS WE TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH WATER, HOW MUCH DISTURBANCE WE'RE DOING, HOW MUCH HARDCOVER WE'RE PUTTING IN. HOW MUCH OF RUNOFF WE HAVE TO TREAT AND IS THAT BECAUSE OF THE GRADING OR IT DOESN'T MATTER THE GRADING IT JUST THE AREA ANYTIME YOU DISTURB OVER AN ACRE OF LAND THEN YOU TRIGGER PERMIT WHICH THEN TRIGGER SOME OTHER WE DO THAT SO EVEN JUST MOVING THE FIELDS OR OVER AN ACRE. YES YEAH, JUST MOVING THE FIELDS, RE-AGGLINING THEM, THINGS LIKE THAT ARE GOING TO TRIGGER. IS THAT 100% OF THE SIZE OF THAT POND? NO, IT'S PART OF IT. DOES ADDING THAT AMOUNT OF HARDCOVER AND ASPHALT PARKING LOT ALSO TRIGGER THE NEED FOR THE STORMWATER INCREASE? YES. THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. SO I'M JUST WONDERING ABOUT OPTIONS FOR PERVIOUS PARKING THAT... ALLOWS US TO KEEP SOME OF THESE GREEN ASSETS. BECAUSE HERE'S WHAT I'M STRUGGLING WITH. WE HAVE THESE WONDERFUL, OUR PARK COMMISSION PUT TOGETHER OUR GUIDING PRINCIPLES. AND ONE OF THEM IS ABOUT OFFSETTING AND BEING AWARE OF BALANCING DECISIONS THAT IMPACT OUR NATURAL ENVIRONMENT WHILE CONSIDERING ADDITION OF HARDSCAPE. AND HERE I SEE WE'RE LOSING FIVE MATURE TREES. SILVER MAPLES ARE ONE OF THE BIGGEST CARBON COLLECTORS. THEY'RE MATURE TREES. THEY'RE CHARACTER OF THE PARK. WE'RE GAINING ASPHALT, WE'RE LOSING THE TREES. THIS IS A TOUGH TRADE-OFF FOR ME BECAUSE I FEEL THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE SIGNIFICANT. I DRIVE BY NOW THE ORNO GOLF COURSE, WHERE WE'VE HAD TO TAKE DOWN BECAUSE OF DISEASE, THOSE VERY, VERY LARGE ASSES. IT ABSOLUTELY CHANGES THE NATURE AND THE CHARACTER OF THAT SPACE. SO HERE... IT'S VERY HARD TO DIGEST THE FACT THAT WE CAN'T HAVE A REDESIGN THAT TAKES INTO CONSIDERATION OUR GREEN ASSETS WHILE WE'RE LOOKING AT IMPROVING THESE STORMWATER ISSUES AND THESE DRAINAGE ISSUES. WELL, I GUESS I WOULD COUNTER THAT INCLUDING THOSE GUIDING PRINCIPLES OF SPACE HERE. IT DOES COST US $5 BILLION. MAPLE TREES, I MEAN, SOMETIMES THAT'S JUST THE PRICE OF CONSTRUCTION. THINGS ARE JUST NOT IN THE RIGHT SPOT, AND SO MEDIUM-QUALITY MAPLE TREES WILL COME OUT AS PART OF THIS PROJECT. BUT AT THE END OF THIS PROJECT, WE WILL HAVE ADDED 17 NEW TREES. WE WILL HAVE ADDED A WATER QUALITY ENHANCEMENT FEATURE. WE WILL HAVE ADDED POLLINATOR GARDEN. WE WOULD HAVE ADDED WE WILL HAVE ADDED RAIN GARDEN SEED MIX WE WILL HAVE ADDED ALL KINDS OF COMPONENTS OF DOING TRYING TO ACHIEVE THAT EXACT THING WHICH IS TO PROVIDE A GREENER SPACE BUT IT'S PART OF CONSTRUCTION AND YOU KNOW THERE'S YOU KNOW ANYTIME YOU DO CONSTRUCTION SAME THINGS HAPPEN ON OUR ROAD PROJECTS AS SOMETIMES THE TREES ARE IN THE WRONG SPOT TO FACILITATE PROJECT THAT THAT IS SADLY THE CASE IF THEY WERE A LITTLE CLOSER TO THE ROAD, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO SOME. IF THEY WERE WAY OUT ON THE OTHER SIDE, THEN WE COULD SQUEEZE BETWEEN THEM AND THE ROAD. BUT THEY'RE NOT. IF YOU PUT A BULLSEYE IN WHERE YOU DON'T WANT THE TREES TO FACILITATE THE PROCESS, MAXIMIZING PLAY SPACE AND IMPROVED DRAINAGE AND SAFETY [01:40:01] AND ALL THAT OTHER STUFF THERE. ADAM, DID WE NOT SEE ONE ITERATION OF THIS WHERE PARKING WAS ON THE INTERIOR AND THERE WAS A ROADWAY OF THOSE TREES TOWARDS WILLOW? THERE WAS A LONG STRIP OF PARKING ON THAT EAST SIDE OF THE PARK. YES, THERE WAS. I'VE NEVER SEEN THAT. IT WAS PROVIDED BY ONE OF THE 19 MEMBERS. WEEK. BUT WHAT'S THAT? IT CUTS OUT THE FIELD THAT YOU SEE IN THE MIDDLE THERE. THAT WOULD MAKE THAT IMPOSSIBLE. YEAH, NO, THERE WAS A PROPOSAL LIKE THAT, BUT IT ADDED A BUNCH OF HARDCOVER THAT WE DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE, AND IT ULTIMATELY HAS THE SAME PROBLEMS, BECAUSE NOW YOU STILL HAVE TO FIT IN THE SAME SQUARE FOOTAGE OF STORMWATER THAT YOU HAD BEFORE, EXCEPT PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT MORE, BECAUSE NOW YOU HAVE MORE FOOTAGE OF... WHICH IS WHY, AS WE WENT THROUGH ALL OUR CONCEPTS IN OUR DESIGN MEETINGS, WE KEPT COMING BACK TO THE SAME IDEA AND INCORPORATING NEW THINGS IN IT, AS WE HEARD FROM THE TEAM, WHICH THINGS LIKE THE GRASS PAVE AND MORE TREES AND MORE PLANTINGS. I DO THINK THE TEAM WAS VERY RECEPTIVE TO THOSE THINGS. IT'S JUST THERE ARE FIVE TREES IN THE WRONG SPOT. AND THE FENCING IS AN ADDITION THAT I DON'T RECALL PLANNING OR PARKS BEING IN FAVOR OF. SO MAYBE I'M MISSING SOMETHING. I JUST, THERE ARE ELEMENTS TO THIS THAT I DON'T THINK, THAT I HAVEN'T SEEN BEFORE THAT WERE NOT WHAT PARK COMMISSION WAS RECOMMENDING. WE DID BRIEF, JUST SO WE KNOW, I DID BRIEF THIS TO THE PARKS COMMISSION. THE PUSHBACK OR THE QUESTIONS I HAD WAS ON THE GRADING, WHICH WE THEN HAD ENROLLED. I THINK THE NOTE THAT WHERE THE FENCE GOES DOWN TO 48 INCHES CAME FROM THE COMMITTEE AND THE PARK COMMISSION. TO HAVE IT BE LOWER THAN IT ORIGINALLY WAS IN THE PLAN SO THAT CAME FROM FROM THEIR INPUT WELL I'LL MAKE A COUPLE COMMENTS I THINK THAT THERE'S BEEN A TON OF WORK DONE BY THE PARK COMMISSION A TON OF WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE BY CITY STAFF WE SPENT SOME TIME OUT AT THAT PARK AND I THINK THE END RESULT OF THIS UM INCLUDING THE BASKETBALL RECONFIGURATION, INCLUDING THE PAVILION, MAKE THIS PARK SOMETHING WE CAN BE VERY PROUD OF. I THINK THAT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE LENGTH OF THE FENCE AND WHATNOT, WHEN I WAS COACHING, I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH JOE. AND WHEN HE'S TALKING ABOUT WITH RESPECT TO USING THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, IT DOES KEEP THE BALL IN. IT DOES KEEP THE KIDS IN THE FIELD. YOU KNOW, WHETHER THEY'RE YOUNG T-BALL PLAYERS OR A LITTLE OLDER, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THEY HAVE THAT. IT IS, FRANKLY, INVALUABLE. TOOL FOR PRACTICE IS FOR SURE. WHEN MY KIDS PLAYED SOCCER OR FOOTBALL, NOT SO MUCH FOOTBALL, YOU WERE CONSTANTLY CHASING AFTER THE BALL. AND IT IS HELPFUL TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF BARRIER FOR PEOPLE THAT WANT TO WATCH A GAME. I CAN TELL YOU THAT T-BALL PARENTS OR GRANDPARENTS OR WHOEVER IS GOING TO WATCH IS GOING TO SIMPLY WALK AROUND THAT FENCE AND SIT WITH THEIR BACK AGAINST THE FENCE. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO. SO BECAUSE THE FIELD IS NOT IN PLAY THERE. AND THEN BASED ON IT BEING T-BALL, THEY'RE PROBABLY NOT AT RISK OF GETTING A LINE DRIVE. SO I THINK THAT THE WORK THAT'S BEEN PUT IN FOR THE PAST NOT ONLY YEAR OR SO TO COME UP WITH A DESIGN, I'VE PARTICIPATED IN AT LEAST ONE IF NOT TWO PUBLIC COMMENT SESSIONS, AT LEAST ONE ON SITE. I THINK THAT THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE PUTS US IN A POSITION WHERE WE CAN MOVE FORWARD. THIS, I KNOW, IS ONE OF THE GOALS THAT WE HAVE AS A CITY COUNCIL IS TO TAKE STEPS ON THIS. IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT THESE TREES ARE IN THE WAY. IT ALWAYS IS. WHEN DEVELOPMENTS GO IN, WHEN PEOPLE BUILD HOMES, THEY USUALLY TAKE HOUSES. THIS IS NO DIFFERENT THAN THAT. IT JUST HAPPENS TO BE THAT SIMILAR TO WHAT HOMEOWNERS PROBABLY DO, YOU BUILD A HOUSE, YOU REPLANT 20 TREES AROUND IT BECAUSE YOU TOOK 10 OUT. IN MY OPINION, IT'S... IT'S SIMPLY A RESULT OF THE DESIGN THAT TENDS TO MAKE THE MOST SENSE, IN MY OPINION. AND I LIKE THE FACT THAT WE HAVE GRANT MONEY TO REPLACE TREES, AND WE'RE GOING TO ADD MORE TREES BACK IN THAN WE'RE REMOVING. SO I'M IN FAVOR OF MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT, AS WELL AS THE PAVILION AND THE BASKETBALL COURT. THAT'S MY OPINION. CERTAINLY. HMM. YEAH. [01:45:48] THAT'S WHAT I DON'T DO. YEAH, WELL, SHORT OF BUYING MORE LAND TO CREATE A PARKING LOT, WHICH IS NOT AVAILABLE, I'M NOT SURE WHAT ELSE YOU DO. TICKET PEOPLE THAT PARK ILLEGALLY, CERTAINLY, IS ONE WAY TO DO IT. YEAH. YEAH. I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WANTS TO... SEE US EXPAND THE PARKING LOT FURTHER INTO THE GREEN SPACE HERE THOUGH GOING NORTH ADAM, ONE OTHER THING THAT WAS BROUGHT UP BY THE PARK COMMISSION WAS REDUCING SPEED. WE DID A SPEED STUDY IN 2019, AND I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT ADDRESSED ANYWHERE. THERE'S BEEN REQUESTS ALSO BY THE NEIGHBORS MANY, MANY TIMES TO REDUCE SPEED FROM 40 TO 30 IN FRONT OF THIS PARK TO INCREASE SAFETY. THE NEIGHBORS HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS DIP AFTER THE FIRE STATION WHERE CARS AND BICYCLES AND WHATNOT ARE NOT ABLE TO BE SEEN. SO I'M WONDERING ABOUT THAT AS WELL AS... THAT'S... WELL, WELL BEYOND THE SCOPE OF THIS PROJECT, THAT WOULD BE A MAJOR STREETS UNDERTAKING, WHICH I TRIED TO EXPLAIN TO A COUPLE OF THE PARKS COMMISSIONERS SEVERAL TIMES. SO WE COULD DO A WHOLE WORK SESSION ON HOW SPEED STUDIES WORK, PARTICULARLY ON AN MSA ROAD. IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN BUILD INTO A PARK DESIGN. THAT'S A ROAD REDESIGN AND PERMITTING PROCESS THAT... IS THE CITY ABLE TO SET THE LIMIT THERE? NO, NOT CURRENTLY WE ARE NOT. WE HAVE TO GO TO MNDOT, WHICH IS WHAT THAT SPEED STUDY IS FROM A FEW YEARS AGO. SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN'T PURSUE? IT'S SOMETHING WE COULD PURSUE. IT'S NOT PART OF THIS PROJECT. RIGHT, UNDERSTOOD. THAT'S JUST IT'S COME UP MANY, MANY TIMES WITH THE NEIGHBORS IN RELATION TO A PARK WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SAFETY. THAT'S SOMETHING WE WOULD NORMALLY DO AS PART OF A ROAD PROJECT. MY LAST QUESTION IS, HAVE WE LOOKED AT PARKING THAT IS ANGLED WHERE THE CURRENT PARKING IS ON WILLOW? YES, NO, AND WE PARTICULARLY REMOVED THAT. THAT GOES BACK TO THE VERY BEGINNING OF ENSURING THAT WE CREATE A SAFER SITUATION FOR PARKING. SO THAT IS ONE THING WE DID HEAR FROM USERS OF THE EXISTING PARKING WAS THE DANGER OF BACKING OUT INTO A 40-MILE-AN-HOUR ROAD. IS IT BECAUSE OF THE SPEED OF THE ROAD OR BECAUSE OF THE ANGLE OF THE PARKING? BOTH. WE HAD ACCIDENTS THERE? NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF. WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF NEAR MISSES AND WE'VE HAD A LOT OF, AS FAR AS LIKE THINGS THAT I'VE HEARD AS A CITY ENGINEER FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS, TWO THINGS, FIX THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF THE BALL FIELDS AND FIX THE PARKING SAFETY. THOSE ARE THE TWO MAIN COMPLAINTS THAT I'VE HEARD FROM RESIDENTS AND USERS OF THAT PARK. YOU CAN SAY PULL IN NOW. AND THEY PULL OUT ONTO WILLOW, AND 90% OF THEM FROM THE FOOTBALL DID A U-TURN ON WILLOW. I WAS SHOCKED WATCHING THEM ALL LEAVE, BECAUSE EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM WAS DOING A U-TURN. SO EVEN IF WE REDUCED THE SPEED TO 30? ON THAT ROAD YOU STILL WOULD NOT WANT TO BACK UP INTO A 30 MILE AND AVOID IT AT ALL. IT'S MORE COMPLICATED THAN THAT [01:50:02] BUT YOU HAVE TO DO A SPEED STUDY AND SETTING OF SPEEDS THERE'S A WHOLE LIST OF PARAMETERS YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH TO DO THAT. ADAM CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY WAS THAT STUDY DONE IN 2019 FOR SPEED? I BELIEVE IT WAS A REQUEST OF THE CITY. FOR WHAT PURPOSE? FOR THE PURPOSE OF REDUCING SPEED. THAT'S THE OTHER THING IS YOU DO A SPEED STUDY, AND WE'RE GETTING WAY OFF TOPIC HERE, BUT WHEN YOU DO A SPEED STUDY, ONE OF THE THINGS YOU LOOK AT IS WHAT'S CALLED THE 80TH PERCENTILE SPEED. SO YOU DO A STUDY AND YOU CLOCK WHAT PEOPLE ARE DOING, AND THEN NORMALLY YOUR SPEED IS SET AT WHATEVER THAT IS. SO ONE OF THE RISKS THAT YOU HAVE WHEN YOU ASK FOR A SPEED STUDY YOU BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY, WELL, LET'S DO A SPEED STUDY TO REDUCE SPEEDS. WELL, YOU MIGHT ACTUALLY GET THE EXACT OPPOSITE BECAUSE THE 85TH PERCENTILE MIGHT TELL YOU PEOPLE FEEL COMFORTABLE DRIVING FASTER THAN WHATEVER IT IS THAT YOU WANT OR YOU CURRENTLY HAVE IT SET AT, AND SO NOW YOU GET A NEW SPEED SET HIGHER. IN THIS CASE, IT WAS KEPT AT ITS EXISTING SPEED. LET'S GET BACK TO THE PARK. I TEND TO AGREE WITH WHAT... COUNCIL MEMBER PERSHING IS ADVOCATING. I WOULD, I GUESS, LIKE TO SEE US MAYBE PHASE THIS A LITTLE BIT. IT'S A LOT OF MONEY, AND THERE ARE SOME OTHER POCKETS WE CAN POTENTIALLY GO AFTER FOR SOME OF THIS FUNDING, PARTICULARLY FOR THE PAVILION, I THINK, AND FOR THE BASKETBALL COURT. BUT I'D BE IN FAVOR OF MOVING AHEAD. I DON'T LIKE THE FACT THAT WE'RE LOSING FIVE. MATURE MAPLES, BUT I DO SEE A LOT OF OTHER BENEFITS TO THIS IN A VERY ENVIRONMENTALLY RESPONSIBLE WAY. HOPEFULLY OFFSET THE LOSS OF THE FIVE TREES. SO JUST ONE THING ON THE PHASING. SO ONE OF THE THINGS I'D JUST LIKE TO KNOW FROM YOU ALL TONIGHT IS ONE, ARE WE OKAY IF WE HOLD ON THE GRASS PAVERS TO COORDINATE THAT WITH THE ROADS? TAKE THAT OUT OF THE BID. WITH RESPECT TO THE PAVILION, RIGHT NOW THE MECHANISM THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT USING IS USING IT AS A BID ALTERNATE. SO WHEN WE RECEIVE BIDS FROM THE BIDDERS, IT WILL BE A SEPARATE, IT WILL BE PART OF THE BID, BUT IT WILL BE LISTED AS AN ALTERNATE WITH ITS OWN PRICE. SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE THE OPTION OF DOING IN THAT CASE IS WHEN I WOULD BRING THE PROJECT BACK TO YOU FOR AWARD, WE COULD MAKE A DECISION AT THAT POINT. MAYBE WE GET A REALLY GREAT PRICE AND WE SAY GO, OR MAYBE WE GET A TERRIBLE PRICE AND WE SAY WE AWARD THE BASE CONTRACT, WE DON'T AWARD THE ALTERNATE. SO I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING IS YOU DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO MAKE A DECISION TODAY ABOUT WHETHER WE INCLUDE THE PAVILION OR NOT. WE COULD DEFER THE DECISION ON DEFERRAL TO WHEN WE DO THE AWARD BECAUSE WE'LL PUT IT IN AS AN ALTERNATE IN THAT WAY. IF WE GET NUMBERS THAT WE DON'T LIKE, WE CAN DEFER IT AT THAT TIME. WE DO THE SAME THING WITH THE BASKETBALL COURT? WE COULD. I COULD ADD SOMETHING AKIN TO WHAT I SKETCHED UP. YEAH, IT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THERE, BUT WE COULD ADD IT AS AN ALTERNATE. AND AGAIN, THE BENEFIT OF DOING THAT IS IF WE GET REALLY GOOD PRICES FOR THE REST OF THIS STUFF, THEN MAYBE IT FITS IN THE BUDGET ALREADY. WE HAVEN'T GOT TO IT YET, BUT WE GOT REALLY GOOD PRICES ON THIS YEAR'S ROAD PROJECT, SO ASK FOR IT. SO I DID HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THAT. I KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE COMING UP NEXT ON THE AGENDA. BUT FROM A CAPITAL OUTLAY STANDPOINT, IF WE COME IN SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS ON ONE CAPITAL OUTLAY EARMARKED ITEM, ARE WE ABLE TO LEVERAGE THAT CAPITAL IN OTHER BUCKETS? TO SOME EXTENT, LIKE IN THAT CASE, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT, STREETS. WOULD BE IF YOU WERE LIKE, WELL, I'D LIKE TO DO SOME MORE STREETS, THEN WE COULD COME BACK WITH A PLAN TO DO SOME MORE STREETS. SOME OF OUR FUNDING SOURCES, WE TRY TO KEEP PAVEMENT MONEY FOR PAVEMENT AND STORMWATER MONEY FOR STORMWATER. AND SO SAYING, OH, WE HAVE A SHORTFALL IN STREETS, SO LET'S GO BUY A PAVILION. I DON'T KNOW THAT. I DON'T LIKE THE PAVEMENT IN THESE PROJECTS. YES, WELL, I GUESS ONE EXAMPLE COULD BE, SAY, OH, WELL, PULL FORWARD THE HACKBERRY AREA MILLING OVER AND SEE IF WE GET A GOOD PRICE ON THAT AND THEN BRING THAT FORWARD AND USE, YOU KNOW, [01:55:02] I WILL SAY WHEN WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT STREETS IN A MINUTE IS WE DID GET GOOD PRICES THIS YEAR, BUT THE STUFF THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT NEXT YEAR IS SLIGHTLY ABOVE WHAT WE NORMALLY WOULD DO IN A YEAR. SO IT KIND OF BALANCES ITSELF OUT. OKAY. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR ANYBODY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE HACKBERRY PARK DESIGN COST OF FUNDING AS PRESENTED WITH ALTERNATIVE WITH ONE REVIEWING WHETHER TO MOVE THE STREETS BUDGET FOR THE STREET SIDE PARKING IN NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS OF THE PARK AND THEN ADDING IN THE ALTERNATES FOR THE PAVILION. ALTERNATE ONE FOR THE PAVILION AND ALTERNATE TWO FOR THE BASKETBALL COURT AREA. THANK YOU. IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT? IF I UNDERSTAND THIS CORRECTLY, THREE PART OF THE TAKING PART OF THIS BUDGET HERE, PUTTING IT IN THE STREETS BUDGET IF THERE'S AN OVERRUN. JUST BRING IT TO THE CLARIFICATION ON HOW THAT FUNDING HE'S TALKING ABOUT TAKING THE PAPER RIGHT RIGHT RIGHT AND WAITING FOR THE STREET PROJECT. OKAY. I GOT YOU. OKAY, ALL RIGHT I'LL SECOND IT. OKAY THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION I GUESS PART OF THAT IS THAT $104,000, THAT COULD BE, IF WE DO REDESIGN THE STREETS INTO ONE WAY WHERE WE DON'T NEED THE GRASS-PAVED SHOULDERS, WE COULD CREATE MORE PARKING AND BASICALLY PUT THAT PARKING IN THE ASPHALT. WE COULD PUT IT IN WHERE THE EXISTING TRAVELWAY IS, MAYBE, OR SOME VARIATION THEREOF. BUT WE WOULD HAVE TO PUT A LITTLE DESIGN TOGETHER FOR THAT TO MAKE SURE. YEAH, BUT WE'D HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO DO THAT, I THINK. YES. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. AYE. AYE. MOTION CARRIES THREE TO TWO. THANK YOU. I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN A LONG, LONG PROCESS OF A LOT OF WORK OVER A MATTER OF YEARS. [10) 2026 Street Improvements Project (26-001) - Award] SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 10, WHICH IS THE STREET IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT, AND THAT GOES BACK TO OUR CITY ADMINISTRATOR AND CITY ENGINEER. SO 2026 STREETS, WE DID OPEN BIDS THIS LAST WEEK FOR... NORTH ARM DRIVE AND NORTH ARM LANE. WE DID RECEIVE VERY FAVORABLE BIDS. THE LOW BID FOR CONSTRUCTION WAS FOR $606,028.42 FROM WILLIAM MUELLER AND SONS INCORPORATED. IN ADDITION, WE DID GET A NOT-TO-EXCEED-COST PROPOSAL FOR CONSTRUCTION OVERSIGHT FROM BOLTON AND MINK FOR $45,000. WE DID ALSO, ASIDE FROM THIS AWARD, WE ALSO HAVE SOME COORDINATION WITH THE CITY OF MEDINA. THEY ARE GOING TO BE MILLING AND OVERLAYING WILLOW DRIVE THROUGHOUT MEDINA AND SOME OTHER STUFF FURTHER NORTH ON THEIR PART OF WILLOW. BUT HAVE OFFERED TO INCLUDE OUR SECTION OF WILLOW NORTH OF COUNTY ROAD 6 FOR AN AMOUNT OF... THEY HAD $19,000 I PUT IN THE RESOLUTION JUST TO ROUND IT UP TO $20,000 AS A NOT TO EXCEED TO CONTINUE WITH THAT PROJECT. SO REALLY TWO DIFFERENT THINGS IN HERE. ONE IS TO AWARD THE REGULAR ROAD CONSTRUCTION PROJECT, WHICH ARE DRIVE AND LANE, AND THEN TO AUTHORIZE THE MILL AND OVERLAY OF THE WILLOW DRIVE MEDINA. THE WORST, I DID GET SOME QUESTIONS EARLIER. WE WERE PROJECTING JUST OVER A MILLION DOLLARS FOR... ROADS THIS YEAR, WHY ONLY 600,000? AND THEN I JUST REMIND THE COUNCIL THAT BACK IN JANUARY WE REMOVED THE TRAIL COMPONENT. AND THAT WAS AROUND $300,000. SO WE DID STILL GET GOOD PRICES. WE HAD AN ENGINEER'S ESTIMATE FOR WHAT WAS LEFT OF JUST AROUND $700,000. WE DID GET SOME BIDS THAT WERE [02:00:02] CLOSER TO THAT, BUT THE LOW ONE WAS FOR $606,000. SO REALLY GOOD BID. I DO RECOMMEND A WORD. ANY QUESTIONS? ANYBODY CARE TO MAKE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION. AWARD THE 2026 STREET IMPROVEMENT PROJECT TO THE MULLER AND SONS FOR $606,000 AND TO AUTHORIZE BOLTON AND MEADE TO PERFORM CONSTRUCTION OVERSIGHT FOR A FEE NOT TO EXCEED $45,000. I'LL SECOND THAT. AND DO YOU WANT TO ADD THE OTHER MOTION FOR MEDINA? FOR THE CITY OF MEDINA AS WELL. OR DO YOU WANT THAT UNDER A SEPARATE MOTION? THEY COULD BE TOGETHER AS FINE. OKAY. YOU OKAY WITH IT? ADDING THAT? YEAH. AND, YEAH, THE MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE STAFF TO COORDINATE WITH THE CITY OF MEDINA FOR THE MILL AND OVERLAY OF WILLOW DRIVE NORTH OF COUNTY ROAD 6 FOR AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $20,000. ALL RIGHT. IT'S BEEN MOVED. IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. NICE WORK ON GETTING THOSE BIDS. SO WITH THAT, ADAM, JUST A QUICK QUESTION. ARE WE ABLE TO MOVE UP OTHER PROJECTS INTO THIS YEAR WITH THE MONEY THAT'S BEEN ALLOCATED? BUT OBVIOUSLY WE'RE SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS UNDER BUDGET FOR THAT PARTICULAR PLAN. SO YOU LOOK AT THE 2027 PLAN, AND THERE ARE OTHER STREETS IN THERE. I MEAN, WOULD WE CONSIDER THOSE, FOR EXAMPLE, WOULD WE CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, SOME OF THEM, LINDEN LANE, SPATES AND RAILROAD. I KNOW THAT THESE ARE GEOGRAPHICALLY LOCATED OR POTENTIALLY OTHER PROJECTS, I THINK YOU MENTIONED, IN AND AROUND THE PARK. I MEAN... [11) 2027 Street Improvement Project Planning and Engineering Project (27-001)] WE COULD. I THINK THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD DISCUSSION FOR THIS NEXT COUNCIL. SURE. WHY DON'T WE MOVE AHEAD TO THE 2027 PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT AND BACK TO OUR CITY ADMINISTRATOR. SO EVERY SPRING WE TRY TO PROGRAM AND BEGIN DESIGN ON THE ROADS THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO THE FOLLOWING YEAR. SO THE ROADS THAT WE JUST AWARDED, WE STARTED THE DESIGN AND PERMITTING AND ALL THAT LAST YEAR AT THIS TIME. SO WHAT I HAVE FOR YOU FOR 27 PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT, THESE ROADS COME OUT OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN THAT WE REVIEWED LAST OCTOBER AND THEN THE PLAN WAS APPROVED IN DECEMBER. WITH THE EXCEPTION, I DID REMOVE THE ORIGINAL PLAN HAD SPACE AND RAILROAD AVENUES INCLUDED FOR 27. HOWEVER, WITH FURTHER DISCUSSIONS WITH METROPOLITAN COUNCIL, IT LOOKS LIKE THEIR MAJOR INTERCEPTOR PROJECT IS GOING TO STILL BE IN THAT AREA, LIKELY IN 27. SO RECOMMENDING WE WAIT ANOTHER YEAR SO THAT WE'RE NOT ON TOP OF EACH OTHER AND WE CAN ADDRESS ANYTHING THAT MAYBE GETS MESSED UP AS PART OF THE PROJECT. SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING PROPOSING FOR 2027 STREET PROJECTS IS BASICALLY LOOKING AT THE WELL START WITH HERITAGE LANE AND HERITAGE DRIVE OVER ON THE EAST SIDE OF TOWN. THERE WE WOULD LOOK AT RECLAIMING AND REPAVING THOSE ROADS AS REPLACING THE TWO MINUTES CURB THAT'S CURRENTLY THERE WITH CONCRETE CURB. THERE'S ALSO SOME WITH ALL THESE PROJECTS ARE SOME KIND OF MISCELLANEOUS STORMWATER AND SOME OTHER UTILITY WORK THAT WE WOULD DO NONE OF THESE ARE WE'RE PROPOSING FULL-SCALE UTILITY REPLACEMENTS SO NO WATER MAIN REPLACEMENTS OR SEWER REPLACEMENTS, BUT THERE ARE SOME THINGS FOR INSTANCE AND PROJECTS WHEREVER WERE WHERE WE HAVE A WATER SYSTEM WE GO AND WE'LL REPLACE THE WATER VALVES THAT ALLOWS US TO THOSE ARE KIND OF CRITICAL OH, AND IT ALSO ALLOWS US TO TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE MAINS THAT ARE UNDER THERE TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE STILL LIKE THEY HAVE LEFT AND THEN FOR SEWER WE'RE NORMALLY DOING ADJUSTMENTS TO MANHOLE TOP FACILITATE PROJECTS. SO THE MILL AND OVERLAY, I KNOW WHAT THAT IS, WHEN YOU SAY THAT THE LANE WILL BE RECLAIMED AND REPAVED IS THAT WHEN WE COMPLETELY TAKE THE ROAD OUT LIKE YOU DID WITH BROWN ROAD? YES, BROWN ROAD WAS A RECLAIM. SO THEY'RE ACTUALLY BOTH VERY SIMILAR PROCESSES EXCEPT IN A MILL AND OVERLAY YOU'RE ONLY YOU'RE NOT GETTING BELOW THE ASPHALT, YOU'RE ONLY TOP COUPLE INCHES OF ASPHALT OUT REPLACING IT. WITH A RECLAIM THE MACHINE IS IS GRINDING. NOT ONLY THE ASPHALT, BUT ALSO THE ROCK AGGREGATE THAT SITS RIGHT BELOW. BASICALLY CREATING A NEW BASE, AND THEN YOU PAVE A FULL THICKNESS OF ASPHALT ON TOP OF THAT. OKAY, THANK YOU. [02:05:03] WE'RE LOOKING AT THE ENTIRE FAGERNESS POINT STREET NETWORK. WE'LL BE OVERALL MILL AND OVERLAY. THERE'LL BE A BUNCH OF SUBGRADE PATCHING THAT HAS TO GO ALONG WITH THAT, TOO, BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME SEGMENTS, LITTLE SEGMENTS IN THAT SHAPE. AND THIS INCLUDES FAGERNESS POINT, CORAL. WEB CONCORDIA SO THE ENTIRE NETWORK DOWN THAT PENINSULA UM THE TWO MINUTES CURVE WILL BE REPLACED IN CERTAIN SECTIONS WITH CONCRETE CURBING SPACES UM AND THEN UH WE ARE RECOMMENDING UH BECAUSE IT CAME OUT OF OUR UM PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT LAST YEAR UM THAT SINCE WE'RE IN THERE DOING THAT WE WOULD ADD SOME GRASS PAVE ON THE PARK SIDE OF CORAL ROAD AS IT GOES PAST ANTOINE THERE. THAT WAS INTERESTING. WE HAD THIS OPEN HOUSE, WHICH WAS VERY WELL ATTENDED BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THEY REALLY LIKED THEIR PARK. THEY WANTED MORE TREES, AND THEY WANTED US TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT SHOULDER THAT EVERYBODY KEEPS TEARING UP ALONG THAT SIDE OF THE ROAD. SO WE THOUGHT, WELL, MAYBE THIS IS A GOOD SOLUTION FOR THAT. IT'S ALSO USED AS ONE OF THE COLLECTION POINTS FOR THE SCHOOL BUS, SO PEOPLE PARK THERE TO PUT KIDS ON THE SCHOOL BUS. SO THE THOUGHT WOULD BE TO. JUST LIKE WE WERE DESCRIBING WITH HACKBERRY, ALONG THAT ONE SIDE OF ANTOINE IS TO PUT THAT GRASS CAVE IN THERE. DO WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE MARK THAT THEN THE FOLLOWING YEAR FOR THE PLOWS THAT COME THROUGH? YES, AND WE'LL TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT IT SITS BELOW THE EDGE OF THE ASPHALT SO IF THE PLOW BLADE COMES OFF THE SIDE IT DOESN'T CATCH IT. AND THEN THE THIRD PART OF NEXT YEAR IS LOOKING AT LINDEN LANE, RECLAIMING AND REPAVING IT WITH A POTENTIAL NEW HALF CUL-DE-SAC AT THE END. YOU MAY RECALL, I THINK I BROUGHT IT TO YOU LAST SPRING, I THINK IT WAS. SOME NEW RESIDENTS DOWN THERE HAD OFFERED UP PROVIDING AN EASEMENT FOR HALF OF A CUL-DE-SAC. WHEN I LAST TALKED TO THEM, IT WAS ABOUT A MONTH AGO, THEY WERE STILL INTERESTED IN THAT. POTENTIALLY WOULD HAVE A TURNAROUND SPACE AT THE END OF THAT ROAD WHICH WE DON'T HAVE NOW IT'S TERRIBLY EVEN FOR CITY VEHICLES WE CAN'T THOSE WOULD BE THE THREE MAIN AREAS FOR THE PROJECT SO AND THIS GOES BACK SO NORMALLY I'M TRYING THE THE FOR BUDGET THE ASPECT THAT CONSTRAINS OUR STREETS PROJECT IS OUR PAVEMENT FUND THE OTHER FUNDS USUALLY HAVE SUFFICIENT FUNDS TO HANDLE WHATEVER ELSE WE'RE DOING. IT'S THE PAVEMENT FUND THAT CONSTRICTS WHAT WE CAN DO, AND NORMALLY I TRY TO KEEP THAT AT ABOUT $1 MILLION, WHICH IS ABOUT WHAT WE'VE BEEN LEVYING FOR PAVEMENT. SO NEXT YEAR I DO HAVE $1.266, WHICH KIND OF THEN WOULD TAKE UP THE $300,000-ISH THAT WE KIND OF SAVED THIS YEAR. TO STEVE'S POINT, COULD WE TAKE A LINDEN LANE PROJECT AND MOVE IT UP TO THIS YEAR, OR IS IT TOO LATE IN THE PROCESS TO DO THAT? WE COULD. IF WE WERE GOING TO TRY TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, I WOULD WANT TO GO FIND SOME THINGS THAT ARE LIKE SIMPLE MILL AND OVERLAYS, BECAUSE THEY DON'T REQUIRE THE SAME PERMITTING AND DESIGN EFFORT. FOR INSTANCE, IF YOU'RE JUST DOING A MILL AND OVERLAY, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO GET ALL THE SURVEY WORK DONE TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE TYING INTO DRIVEWAYS AND DRAINAGE AND ALL THAT. TAKING WHAT'S THERE A COUPLE INCHES OFF AND PUTTING NEW DOWN, SO MUCH SIMPLER TO DO. SO, YOU KNOW, I GUESS THIS WAS GOING TO BE THE NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS KIND OF THE CONDITION MAP OF OUR STREETS, AND THESE ARE, JUST AS A REMINDER, THINGS, THE OTHER ROADS THAT WE KIND OF HAVE OUT THERE IN THE NOT-TOO-DISTANT FUTURE. I WILL SAY A LOT OF THESE, PARTICULARLY WITH THESE PAYMENT CONDITION INDEXES BELOW 60, THOSE ARE GOING TO BE... DEFINITELY BE RECLAIMED SO NOT BE GOOD CANDIDATES AND THEY'RE VERY EXPENSIVE SO PROBABLY NOT THE BEST TO BRING FORWARD YOU KNOW MAYBE THE THIS DOWN HERE IS THE NEIGHBORHOODS TO THESE PAVEMENT COST ESTIMATES BOTH FOR THE FOR THE 2027 PROJECTS AND BEYOND DO THEY INCLUDE SOME INFLATIONARY ELEMENT TO THEM. I KNOW THIS YEAR WE'RE COMING IN WITH GOOD PRICES ON THE ASPHALT, BUT WITH WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE OIL MARKETS... THE NUMBERS THAT I HAVE HERE ARE THE SAME ONES THAT I CALCULATED LAST FALL AS WE WERE GOING INTO THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT, SO I HAVE NOT ADJUSTED THESE YET. SO WE MIGHT BE LOOKING AT PRICES NEXT YEAR. WE'LL LIKELY BE LOOKING AT PRICES. I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GETTING ASPHALT AT $75 A [02:10:02] TON. PROJECTIONS FROM MNDOT FOR NEXT YEAR. OH, OKAY. THEY'RE LOOKING AT $85 A CUBIC FOR A TON NEXT YEAR. OKAY. BUT THAT'S JUST A PROJECTION. RIGHT, RIGHT. BUT YES, YOU ALWAYS, ANYTIME YOU DEFER THINGS, YOU'RE RUNNING THE RISK. THINGS GETTING MORE EXPENSIVE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY DO. YEP. IT'S HARD TO TIME THE MARKET ON STUFF LIKE THAT. AND THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAD ON THIS WAS I WAS LOOKING TO GET A MOTION TO APPROVE BEGINNING OF THE DESIGN OF THOSE ROADS. AND THEN THERE IS A PROPOSAL FROM BOLTON AND MINK. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO DIRECT CITY ENGINEER AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PLANNING AND DESIGN OF THE 2027 STREET PROVEN PROJECT AND ACCEPT THE BOLTON AND MANK PROPOSAL FOR DESIGN. I'LL SECOND IT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? JUST TO BE CLEAR THAT BOLTON AND MANK ESTIMATE IS $124,000? YES. DOES THAT MEAN WE PAY THAT THIS YEAR OR IS THAT A NEXT YEAR EXPENDITURE? THE DESIGN IS AS THEY DESIGN, SO AS I GET INVOICES. THAT'S A NOT TO EXCEED. IT'S INVOICED AS THEY DO THE WORK. THAT'LL BE THIS YEAR EXPENSE. THIS YEAR AND INTO NEXT YEAR. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO DIRECT CITY ENGINEER TO MOVE FORWARD [12) 2026 Goals Quarterly Status Update] WITH PLANNING AND DESIGN OF THE 2027 STREET IMPROVEMENT PROJECT? SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSITION? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON THAT. SO WE'RE DOWN TO ITEM NUMBER 12, WHICH IS THE QUARTERLY GOALS STATUS UPDATE. AND JUST TO SORT OF SET THE TABLE ON THIS, CITY COUNCIL MET EARLIER, EARLY JANUARY TO TALK ABOUT OUR GOALS FOR THIS YEAR. AND I HAD A VERY PRODUCTIVE SESSION OVER THE COURSE OF THE MORNING AND CAME AWAY WITH A NUMBER OF GOALS AND HAVE ASKED THE STAFF TO GIVE US QUARTERLY UPDATES ON HOW WE'RE DOING AGAINST THOSE GOALS. SO WITH THAT, I WOULD TURN IT OVER TO MR. EDWARDS AGAIN TO WALK THROUGH THAT. WE'LL GO THROUGH EACH OF THEM. WE WON'T READ THIS, BUT IT IS BASED ON OUR MISSION VISION AND THE OVERARCHING CITY GOALS THAT WE HAVE. SO I'LL JUST GO ONE BY ONE. I KIND OF MADE ALL THE SLIDES WILL BE SIMILAR TO THIS, GOING THROUGH THE ACTION TASKS THAT WE KIND OF HAD FOR EACH OF THESE GOALS, AND THEN THE CONVENTION WILL REMAIN THE SAME. THE GREEN DOT MEANS WE'RE ON TRACK. THE TIMING AND EVERYTHING IS GOING FINE. THE YELLOW-ORANGE MEANS SOME ATTENTION IS REQUIRED. MAYBE WE'RE A LITTLE BIT BEHIND OR THERE'S SOMETHING EXTRA WE NEED TO DO. RED IS OFF TRACK. WE'RE AT RISK OF NOT ACHIEVING THAT PARTICULAR GOAL. AND THEN GRAY IS JUST SOMETHING WE, IN THE FUTURE, WE HAVEN'T STARTED DOING ANYTHING ON IT, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THERE'S ANYTHING WRONG. WE JUST HAVEN'T GOT THERE YET. SO COMMUNITY EVENT, ONE OF THE THINGS WAS TO REESTABLISH COMMITTEE, AND SO WE HAVE THAT AS GREEN. WE DID REESTABLISH OUR COMMITTEE. WE HAD OUR FIRST MEETING JUST LAST WEEK. YEAH, I THINK THAT WENT WELL. WE HAVE FOR THE TREE LIGHTING PORTION, SO THERE'S TWO MAIN OBJECTIVES, AND THIS ONE WAS TO ENSURE WE HAD SOME KIND OF TREE LIGHTING HOLIDAY TYPE EVENT, AND THE OTHER WAS SOME KIND OF FALL EVENT, IF POSSIBLE. SO WE DID MEET, WE DISCUSSED THOSE IN ADDITION TO THE ST. PAUL SAINTS OPPORTUNITY, AND THEN ACTUALLY ADDED THE POTENTIAL OF LOOKING AT A SPRING EVENT IN 2027 FOR PARKS TYPE CLEANUP. SO THIS ONE I HAVE IS A GREEN OR STILL UPCOMING AND THEN THE ONE THING I HAD KIND OF REQUIRES ATTENTION SLASH GREEN BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF MIDDLE AS WE NEED TO ESTABLISH SOME TO MAKE THE FALL A FALL TYPE EVENT WORK. WE REALLY ARE GOING TO BE DEPENDENT ON PUSHING SOME COMMUNITY GROUPS AND WE'VE HAD SOME CONTACTS, BUT WE HAVEN'T REALLY NAILED ANYTHING DOWN YET. THE CUSTOMER SERVICE METRIC WAS FIRST TO ASSESS AND REFRESH EXISTING TRACKING SYSTEMS. FIRST, WE WERE GOING TO DO AN INVENTORY OF OUR EXISTING SYSTEMS [02:15:01] AT THE STAFF LEVEL. WE'VE COMPLETED THAT. WE ARE STILL WORKING TO DOCUMENT OUR PROCESSES AND EXISTING METRICS AND WE ARE HAVING TO PAY A LITTLE EXTRA ATTENTION TO OUR CITIZEN PROBLEM REPORTER SYSTEM WHICH IS WHAT WE WERE HOPING TO USE AS THE ARCHITECTURE TO BUILD THIS THING ON. BACKGROUND IS CITIZEN PROBLEM REPORTER IS AN APPLICATION FROM THE ESRI CORPORATION KIND OF DOES THEY'RE THE BIG GIS PLAYERS. THEY DID SOME UPDATES. WHICH BROKE ALL OF OUR SYNCHRONIZATION AND LINKS WITH OTHER SYSTEMS SO WE HAVE BOLTON AND MINK AND ANOTHER ONE OF OUR CONSULTANTS ATM TRYING TO RESTORE THOSE LINKS SO LET'S PUT US BEHIND A LITTLE BIT BUT WE'RE STILL KIND OF WORKING THROUGH THAT PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING ELSE AND THAT KIND OF FOLLOWS FROM GETTING THAT SET AND THEN THE REST PARKS ASSET MANAGEMENT SOME GREENS THERE ON THE TOP OF CREATE A CONSISTENT EFFICIENT MEETING STRUCTURE CLARIFY PARK COMMISSION ROLES AND FOCUS AND ESTABLISH SHORT AND LONG-TERM GOALS THE PARKS COMMISSION HAS BEEN DOING THIS PARTICULARLY AT THEIR APRIL WORK SESSION SO THEY'VE BEEN MOVING ON THAT SO WE HAVE THAT THOSE ALL IS GREENS BASED ON THOSE AND IT KIND OF WILL MOVE INTO THE NEXT PORTION WHICH IS ESTABLISHING PRIORITIES CATEGORIES AND PARK ASSETS AND EVALUATING CURRENT AND FUTURE USE AND THEN THE THIRD MAIN AREA WAS THE HACK THE RIFT PARK REVITALIZATION PROJECT. I WILL, I GUESS, NOW CHANGE THAT TOP DOT TO GREEN BASED ON TODAY, AND THEN WE'LL LOOK AT GETTING IT AWARDED TOWARD THE END OF MAY, IF NOT PROBABLY BEGINNING IN JUNE, BY THE TIME WE GET BIDS BACK. FINANCIAL STEWARDSHIP. MOST OF FINANCIAL STEWARDSHIP... GOAL TALKED ABOUT TRYING TO COMMUNICATE BETTER HOW BUDGETING WORKS AND HOW FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY WORKS AT A MUNICIPAL LEVEL. SO MOST OF THAT'S ONGOING. SO THE FIRST ONE, WE'RE STILL KIND OF WAITING ON SOME LEGISLATIVE DECISIONS. ONCE WE HAVE THOSE, THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE THEM. THE GREEN THERE, COMMUNICATE OPEN BOOK MEETING DATES, WE DID PASS THAT ON. THAT'S REALLY A COUNTY FUNCTION, BUT THOSE ARE ALL GOING ON RIGHT NOW. IN FACT, SOME OF YOU HAD QUESTIONS FROM RESIDENTS ON THAT PROCESS, AND SOME OF YOU ARE PARTICIPATING IN THAT PROCESS. SO THAT'S ONGOING. IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE WOULD CONTROL AS A CITY, BUT IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE TRYING TO COMMUNICATE AND HELP GET THE MESSAGE OUT OF. AND THEN THE OTHER ONE, UPDATING TAXPAYERS ON KEY LEGISLATIVE UPDATES THAT MAY IMPACT PROPERTY TAXES. AGAIN, KIND OF ONGOING, WAITING FOR SOME DEFINITIVE GUIDANCE FROM THE LEGISLATURE. WE'LL TRY TO DO OUR BEST TO GET THAT OUT. OTHERWISE, I KNOW MAGGIE AND HER DEPARTMENT HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH RACHEL AS FAR AS HOW TO LOOK FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO COMMUNICATE BUDGET STUFF. IT IS, SORRY TO OFFEND MAGGIE, IT IS NOT THE MOST EXCITING WORLD TO CATCH PEOPLE'S ATTENTION WITH, BUT WE'RE DOING OUR BEST TO GET THE WORD OUT THERE. WELL, THEY CERTAINLY PAY ATTENTION WHEN THEY GET THEIR TAX BILL, RIGHT? FACILITIES ASSET MANAGEMENT, OPTIMIZE THE USE OF THE PUBLIC WORKS AND PARKS FACILITY. I HAVE THAT AS A YELLOW SLASH GREEN. IT'S ONGOING. WE DID HAVE SOME DISCUSSIONS WITH WEST HENNEPIN ABOUT USING OUR FLEET. THAT PROBABLY WAS HIRING ANOTHER PERSON. IT WASN'T GOING TO BE ENOUGH OF AN INFLOW TO JUSTIFY HIRING ANOTHER PERSON OR PAY FOR HIRING ANOTHER PERSON. BUT WE'LL KEEP THOSE LANES OPEN. IS THERE INTEREST IN THAT, ADAM? THERE IS. A LOT OF OUR SMALLER NEIGHBORING AGENCIES, OUR FLEET SERVICE HAS BEEN, I THINK, FOR US NOT ONLY INTERNALLY BUT OTHER PEOPLE LOOKING AT IT AND SAYING, OH, HOW CAN WE GET SOME OF THAT SUPPORT? BECAUSE IT'S A LOT MORE RESPONSIVE AND IT'S A LOT MORE COST EFFECTIVE THAN TRYING TO JUST GET IN WITH A LOCAL. SHOP WHENEVER THEY CAN FIT IN SO AND THEN IN THE GREEN THERE WE DID YOU ALL APPROVED LAST COUNCIL MEETING OR THE ONE BEFORE THE AGREEMENT WITH THE SHORELINE FIRE DEPARTMENT SO WE DO HAVE A FULL-FLEDGED AGREEMENT WITH THEM PROVIDING THEM SUPPORT THE REST OF THOSE ARE ALL STILL FUTURE WE HAVEN'T JUST HAVEN'T GOT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND RELATIONSHIP BUILDING. THIS IS MOSTLY IN COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENTS BUCKET. [02:20:03] THEY DO HAVE, COMING UP HERE SHORTLY, SOME PLANNED PORTIONS OF IT, BUT WE HAVEN'T GOT THERE YET. I'LL GET TO THAT, BUT THE FUNDING AND BUDGETING PROCESS. AND THEN THIS IS NOT ONE OF THE GOALS, BUT IT WAS IN OUR GOALS PROCESS, AND I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF HIGHLIGHT. THESE ARE ALL THE THINGS THAT WE DIDN'T NEED TO ESTABLISH AS GOALS BECAUSE THEY'RE THINGS WE JUST HAD TO DO. BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS WORTHWHILE BRIEFING ON THE OTHER THINGS THAT YOUR STAFF IS WORKING ON FOR THE CITY. THE BIGGER THINGS IS, ONE, ELECTIONS. THAT'S ON TRACK. WE ACTUALLY HAD PEOPLE IN MINNEAPOLIS TODAY AT A FORUM GETTING READY FOR THE UPCOMING ELECTIONS. WE HAVE ALREADY BEEN GETTING ELECTION JUDGES SIGNED UP AND GOING THROUGH ALL THE PROCESSES TO BE READY FOR THOSE THIS SUMMER AND FALL. TREE MANAGEMENT WAS SOMETHING WE KNEW WE WERE GOING TO BE WORKING A LOT ON, AND YOU JUST GOT A BRIEFING FROM JOE, AT LEAST ON THE GRANT SIDE, AS WELL AS ALL OF THE REGULARLY BUDGETED THINGS THAT WE ADDED TO THE BUDGET. THE GUYS ARE OUT DOING THAT WORK. 2027 BUDGET IS YET TO HAPPEN, BUT WE'LL START THAT HERE LATE MAY. THE AUDIT IS ON TRACK. THEY'RE DOING FIELD WORK NOW, SO WE'LL HAVE THAT BRIEFING TO YOU SHORTLY, SO THAT IS ALL FORWARD. AND I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN THE PAST, BUT THE STAND-UP OF THE SHORELINE FIRE DEPARTMENT REALLY TOOK A LOT OF STAFF ENERGY EARLY IN THE YEAR. IT'S EASED OFF A LITTLE BIT, BUT THERE'S STILL A LOT OF SUPPORT THAT THE CITY STAFF IS PUTTING IN THE DEPARTMENT TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE SUCCESSFUL. MOST RECENTLY, YOU PROBABLY READ IN MY UPDATE LAST WEEK, WE'VE BEEN FOCUSING ON TRYING TO GET THEM A WORKABLE HUMAN RESOURCES POLICY. RIGHT NOW THEY TECHNICALLY DON'T HAVE A VACATION POLICY OR SICK TIME POLICY OR, YOU KNOW, SAFE WORKPLACE, ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. SO WE'VE BEEN BUILDING THAT FOR THEM. AND SOME OF YOU PARTICIPATED. WE ARE MOST OF THE WAY, HOPEFULLY, THROUGH OUR POLICE CHIEF SELECTION PROCESS. I HOPE TO BRING YOU THE NEXT MEETING. THE INTERVIEW PANELS DID NARROW IT DOWN TO A FINALIST, AND WE ARE CURRENTLY GOING THROUGH THE POST-BOARD REQUIREMENTS FOR A CHIEF LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER. IT'S A 50-SOMETHING PAGE DOCUMENT OF BACKGROUND STUFF YOU HAVE TO DO, AS WELL AS MEDICALS AND PSYCHOLOGICAL. IT'S ALL PROGRESSING FINE, SO HOPEFULLY THAT WILL BE ABLE TO BRING SOMETHING DEFINITIVE TO YOU NEXT TIME. QUESTION ON THE COMMUNITY SURVEY. I KNOW WE GOT A DRAFT OF THAT. CAN WE RESPOND TO LAURA WITH ANY INPUT THAT WE'VE GOT ON THAT, OR IS THAT SORT OF BAKED THE WAY IT IS NOW? CERTAINLY WE ALWAYS TAKE INPUT. OKAY. THE ONE THING I WOULD SAY FROM LOOKING AT THAT IS A LOT OF IT IS BAKED BECAUSE IT USES THE, I'M GOING TO MESS UP THE ACTUAL NAME, BUT THERE'S A NATIONAL SURVEY. COMMUNITY SURVEY STANDARD SO LIKE 90% OF THAT SURVEY IS KIND OF THESE STANDARD QUESTIONS THAT ARE USED ACROSS THE COUNTRY BENCHMARKING AND THEN THERE'S A VERY SMALL PIECE OF WHERE THEY GAVE US LIKE SEVERAL PAGES OF OPTIONAL QUESTIONS WHICH MOSTLY WE PULLED QUESTIONS FROM THERE THAT HAD TO DO WITH THE STUFF WE WANTED TO KNOW ABOUT PARKS AND BUT THERE'S A SECTION, THERE'S SOME QUESTIONS IN THERE THAT WE'RE CALLING LIKE THE OPTIONAL QUESTIONS THAT WE COULD PUT IN. WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE FOR US TO ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, INITIATIVES OR THINGS LIKE THAT? OR IS IT MEANT TO BE A LITTLE BROADER IN SCOPE? I THINK IT'S MEANT TO BE A LITTLE BIT BROADER. BUT IF THERE IS SOME FEEDBACK OR A SPECIFIC QUESTION. THAT YOU HAVE, PLEASE SEND IT IN TO LAURA AND I. WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IT, AND IF NOTHING ELSE, THERE MAY BE SOMETHING ON THE OPTIONAL LIST THAT IS REALLY TIED TO IT, AND WE CAN MAKE A SUGGESTION THAT, OH, THAT SEEMS TO CORRESPOND TO THIS. WE CAN ADD THAT IN. I WILL SAY THAT JUST LOOKING THROUGH THOSE LISTS OF ALTERNATE QUESTIONS, THERE WAS A LOT OF, AT LEAST TO ME AS MAYBE A SURVEY NOVICE, THERE WAS A LOT OF DUPLICATION OF... I THINK THEY'RE ASKING THE SAME QUESTION THREE DIFFERENT WAYS HERE, BUT YEAH, SO WE DID TRY TO LIKE WELL THERE'S THREE DIFFERENT QUESTIONS THAT ADDRESS THIS PARTICULAR THING. LET'S JUST PICK RELATED TO OUR COMMUNITY AND PUT IT [02:25:02] IN THERE. IT OCCURRED TO ME THAT WE'RE DOING THIS SURVEY SO INFREQUENTLY THAT MAYBE WE SHOULD BE ASKING A FEW THINGS THAT WE REALLY WANT TO KNOW ABOUT LOCAL ISSUES. BE A LITTLE MORE DIRECT. I AGREE, AND I WAS STRUCK BY, I KNOW WE'RE GOING WITH POLCOR, WE'VE CONTACTED WITH THEM, BUT LEATHERMAN, I BELIEVE, OR SOMETHING LIKE IT IS ONE WE USED BACK IN... 2008 AND THE QUESTIONS WERE MUCH MORE SPECIFIC TO OUR COMMUNITY. SOME OF THESE ARE ABOUT THE ARTS AND THINGS OF THE LIBRARIES. IT'S NOTHING RELEVANT TO ORONO AND I WAS A LITTLE SURPRISED AND DISAPPOINTED THAT THESE ARE NOT MORE SPECIFIC TO OUR COMMUNITY BECAUSE I THINK WE HAVE MANY THINGS HERE THAT WE REALLY NEED DATA ON SPECIFIC TO OUR PARKS AND OPEN SPACE AND OTHER THINGS THAT ARE NOT REPRESENTED THERE. IT DOES OCCUR TO ME THAT MAYBE THEY'RE ASKING ONE SIMILAR QUESTION IN THREE DIFFERENT WAYS TO GET... SOMETIMES IF YOU GO ABOUT SOMETHING ONE WAY AND THIS IS WHY THE EXPERTS ARE DOING IT, IT'S NOT GOING TO GIVE YOU THE RIGHT DATA. BUT I AM IN AGREEMENT THAT MORE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS OR TAILORED THINGS TO THIS COMMUNITY IS SOMETHING I'D LIKE TO SEE AND THAT I WAS THINKING WE WERE GOING TO HAVE AS PART OF THIS. AGAIN, IF YOU HAVE SOME, PLEASE RESPOND TO THAT EMAIL IF THERE'S SOMETHING SPECIFIC. I KNOW I'VE TALKED WITH LAURA, THERE'S SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR ADDITIONAL SURVEYS THAT ARE MORE PARKS AND OPEN SPACE RELATED THAT WILL BE, THAT IS OFFERED THROUGH THE CONTRACT WE HAVE WITH THEM THAT WE'VE STARTED TO TALK ABOUT. YEP. SOME OF THAT WILL COME, WOULD COME LATER AS WE'RE DOING A PLAN WHERE WE, WE KNOW WE GOT TO DO THIS SECTION OF THE COMP PLAN. SO LET'S FOCUS IN ON PARKS. LET'S FOCUS IN ON INFRASTRUCTURE. LET'S FOCUS IN ON, YOU KNOW, LAND USE. OKAY, GOOD, GOOD. HAVE STAFF DISTRIBUTED TO THE FULL COUNCIL THAT 2008 SURVEY SO THAT EVERYBODY'S SEEN IT? BECAUSE, AGAIN... OKAY, OKAY, OKAY. BECAUSE THAT ONE JUST HAD, IT WAS QUITE DETAILED, AND IT WAS ALSO A PHONE SURVEY, WHICH IS DIFFERENT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT LOSING... THE OPPORTUNITY. YES, AND THE DETAIL, VERY SPECIFIC TO OUR COMMUNITY, WHICH IS NOT REPRESENTATIVE OF CITIES LIKE BLOOMINGTON OR OTHERS THAT HAVE USED, I'M NOT SURE WHO THEY USE, BUT BIGGER ONES. SO I WILL GET IN TOUCH WITH LAURA FOR SURE. YEAH, PLEASE. ANYBODY THAT'S GOT INPUT ON THAT, WE CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT. I JUST WOULD AGAIN CAVEAT THAT WHAT WE AWARDED IS WITHIN A CERTAIN FRAMEWORK. UNDERSTOOD. OKAY. NO ACTION NEEDED ON THE GOALS. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THE GOAL? I LIKE THE FORMAT. I THINK THIS IS GOOD DATA AND REALLY KEEPS US ON TRACK. TRYING TO REACH OUR GOALS BY YEAR-END. SO THANK YOU FOR PUTTING IT [Mayor and Council Report] TOGETHER. NEXT TIME WILL BE A LITTLE EASIER, I SUSPECT. YES. ALL RIGHT. MAYOR AND COUNCIL REPORT. ANYTHING THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS WOULD LIKE THE COMMUNITY AND THE REST OF THE COUNCIL TO HEAR ABOUT? START WITH JOHN. NO, GO AHEAD. AS A GENERAL, SORRY, BEFORE YOU. NO, THAT'S OKAY. JUST AS A GENERAL ADMINISTRATOR REPORT, I JUST WANTED TO PUT OUT THERE THAT WE DID HAVE OUR SPRING CLEANUP DAY. THIS LAST WEEKEND WE HEARD A LITTLE BIT FROM JOE ABOUT HANDING OUT OF SEEDS, BUT IT WAS ONE OF OUR BIGGEST EVER. SO PUBLIC WORKS AND THEN WITH SUPPORT FROM PARKS AND ADMIN STAFF AND COMMUNICATIONS WAS OUT THERE ALL DAY. WE HAD 454 FOLKS ROLL THROUGH. WE'VE NORMALLY BEEN AVERAGING ABOUT 300, SO A PRETTY BIG JUMP. THEY COLLECTED 120 CUBIC YARDS OF SCRAP METAL, WHICH IS THREE 40-FOOT DUMPSTERS. FULL OF THAT. 130 CUBIC YARDS OF CONSTRUCTION DEBRIS, WHICH SEEMED TO BE THE... EVERY YEAR WE HAVE THIS THING, THERE'S LIKE ONE ITEM, SOMETIMES IT'S LIKE LAWNMOWERS, SOMETIMES IT'S SNOWBLOWERS, THAT YOU'RE LIKE, WHERE DID ALL THESE COME FROM IN OUR COMMUNITY? USED TO BE PROJECTION TVS WHEN I FIRST GOT HERE, BUT THIS YEAR IT WAS CONSTRUCTION DEBRIS. WE OVERFLOWED THE CONTAINERS WE HAD FOR THAT. I MEAN, WE GOT MORE, BUT... SO THAT WAS... 20 CUBIC YARDS OF ELECTRONIC WASTE. HALF A TRUCK OF APPLIANCES AND SALVATION ARMY, WHO'VE BEEN WITH US NOW FOR A COUPLE YEARS, THEIR VEHICLE WAS FILLED WITH DONATIONS AN HOUR AND A HALF BEFORE THE EVENT ENDED. [02:30:01] YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU THAT UPDATE. IT'S A PRETTY BIG PUSH, PARTICULARLY FOR THE PUBLIC WORKS STAFF, TO PUT THAT ON, AND THIS YEAR IT PAID OFF WITH GOOD ATTENDANCE. IT'S A WONDERFUL SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY, AND I TRY TO PARTICIPATE EVERY YEAR. I DID IT THIS YEAR AS WELL, AND IT WAS VERY WELL RUN. SO THANK YOU TO THE STAFF FOR ALL THE EXTRA WORK ON A SATURDAY. DID WE HEAR ANY FEEDBACK FROM RESIDENTS? THAT WAS A BIG SHOWING. DID ANYBODY HAVE FEEDBACK, EITHER AT THE EVENT OR AFTERWARDS, FOR STAFF? I MEAN, I WAS AT THE EVENT, AND WE GET TONS OF COMMENTS JUST THANKING US FOR DOING IT, HOW GREAT IT IS. THEY WAIT, YOU KNOW, ALL YEAR TO DO IT, AND JUST THANKING US FOR BEING OUT IN THE COLD. PRETTY MUCH EVERYONE I TALKED TO WAS VERY POSITIVE. ONE SMALL BIT OF FEEDBACK. I DROVE BY AT ABOUT QUARTER TO TWELVE, I THINK IT WAS, AND THE SIGN THAT WAS FACING SOUTH SAID, 8 TO 12 ON IT. I PANICKED AND WENT HOME, GOT MY STUFF, CAME BACK, AND BY THE TIME I CAME BACK, THE ONE WAS COVERED UP. IT WAS STILL TWO. I'D READ THAT IT WAS STILL TWO EARLIER. THAT WAS STILL FROM THE FALL CLEANUP. OKAY. THAT WAS, WE DO HAVE, I KNOW BRENT HAD, YEAH, WANTS TO DO SOME DIFFERENT SIGNAGE. GOT IT. IT ALSO DIDN'T HAVE SPRING PARK ON THERE, BUT SPRING PARK IS ONE OF OUR PARTNERS FOR THIS. GREAT. OKAY, NOW WE'LL GO TO COUNCIL COMMONS. ANYTHING, JOHN? NO, I WOULD SAY WE MET ON THE EVENTS PLANNING LAST WEEK, AND I THOUGHT IT WENT REAL WELL. WE HAD GREAT PARTICIPATION, AND MOVING FORWARD WITH THE DECEMBER EVENT, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO CALL IT, BUT SOMETHING SPECIAL. REBRANDED. RIGHT. SO I THOUGHT THAT WENT REAL WELL. THANK YOU BOTH FOR STEPPING UP ON THAT. IT'S GREAT. GOOD MEETING. ON SATURDAY, I ATTENDED A SHORELINE TRAINING BURN. OH, YOU DID? THEY WERE BURNING THE HOUSE RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO THE HOCKEY ARENA. SO THAT WAS REALLY INTERESTING. RACHEL WAS THERE TAKING PICTURES. BUT IT WAS FUN TO SEE THE GUYS IN ACTION. I THINK THEY HAVE FOUR TRAINERS THERE WITH THEM. AND I WAS THERE TALKING AND GOT SOME NICE FEEDBACK FROM A LOT OF THE GUYS AND STUFF. DID YOU GEAR UP? DID YOU GO IN? I DID NOT. THEY DID NOT ASK ME TO EITHER. COUNCIL MEMBER BENTON? YEAH, I WAS ABLE TO ATTEND THE, COUNCIL MEMBER RICKS WAS THERE AS WELL, THE NATIVE LANDSCAPE OR THE PRAIRIE LANDSCAPING WORKSHOP AT OTTEN BROTHERS. IT WAS A FREE EVENT PUT ON BY THE STUBBS BAY. LAKE IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT TO EDUCATE HOMEOWNERS ABOUT HOW TO INFUSE THEIR SHORELINE ENVIRONMENTS AND ELSEWHERE WITH NATIVES TO REDUCE THE PHOSPHORUS LOADING AND EVERYTHING. IT WAS WELL ATTENDED AND A VERY GOOD TURNOUT, SO LOTS OF GOOD INFORMATION THERE. I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE HIGH SCHOOL NATIONAL HONOR SOCIETY STUDENTS AT THE HIGH SCHOOL FOR DOING A ROADWAY CLEANUP OVER THE WEEKEND. THEY WERE ON OLD CRYSTAL BAY AND ALSO ON HIGHWAY 6, BOTH SIDES OF IT, DOING DOZENS AND DOZENS OF STUDENTS DOING SEVERAL HOURS OF LITTER PICKUP ALONG THE ROADWAYS, WHICH IS VERY MUCH APPRECIATED. I CONTINUE TO DO THAT IN OUR PARK SYSTEM AND DUMP OFF WHAT I FIND AT PUBLIC WORKS, WHICH THEY ARE VERY ACCOMMODATING OF. IT'S AMAZING HOW THAT'S JUST A CONTINUAL PROCESS. SO I'LL KEEP AT IT. ONE THING I WANT TO BRING UP IS REGARDING PARK STANDARDS, AND THIS IS SOMETHING I SHOT A NOTE TO STAFF LAST WEEK ON, IS THAT WE'VE GOT I ACTUALLY DREW INSPIRATION FROM OUR NEIGHBORING TOWN OF MOUND AND IT WAS A COUPLE YEARS AGO THIS MONTH THAT A RESIDENT APPROACHED COUNCIL ABOUT FUNDING FOR NATIVE PLANTS THAT HE HIMSELF WAS GOING TO VOLUNTEER TO PLACE IN THEIR PARK SYSTEM TO INCREASE POLLINATOR HABIT AND ALSO TO BEAUTIFY THE SPACE. I'VE TALKED WITH STAFF ABOUT SOME OF OUR PARKS AND I THINK WE'VE DISCUSSED AS A COUNCIL ARE NOT UP TO STANDARD PARTICULARLY AROUND OUR SIGNAGE. THAT WE'VE GOT SOME PLANTINGS IN THERE THAT ARE OF THE PLASTIC VARIETY. SO ONE THING I WANTED TO JUST INTRODUCE AS AN IDEA IS UNDERSTANDING IT'S BUSY SEASON AND LABOR IS SO DIFFICULT TO COME BY IN TIME, IS THAT I WOULD BE MORE THAN WILLING, AND HAVING FLOATED THE IDEA WITH OTHERS IN THE COMMUNITY, OTHER PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO HELP WITH PLANTINGS AS SOME OF THESE PARK SIGNS. THESE ARE VERY SMALL FOOTPRINTS. IF THE CITY CAN PURCHASE PLANTS. IT'S JUST A MATTER OF TIME AND PEOPLE, AND IT'S ANOTHER WAY TO KIND OF BUILD THAT COMMUNITY SPIRIT. SO I SHOT A NOTE TO STAFF, DIDN'T HEAR BACK, BUT I SEE A THUMBS UP. BUT ANYHOW, PLANTS ARE INEXPENSIVE. [02:35:01] IT'S REALLY ABOUT LABOR AND TIME. AND WHAT I KNOW, HAVING BEEN TO OUR PARKS, IS I'M TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, JUST LEAD WITH THAT EXAMPLE OF WILLIE SUPPORTING OUR STAFF, BECAUSE THEY DO A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK, AND WE HAVE SO MUCH GROUND TO COVER. SO I WANTED TO FLOAT THAT BY THE COUNCIL TONIGHT AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY, IF WE WOULD NEED STAFF APPROVAL OR HOW THAT MIGHT WORK TO OBTAIN SOME PLANTINGS THAT VOLUNTEERS COULD COORDINATE AND PUT IN THIS YEAR IN ORDER TO BRING THEM UP TO STANDARDS WITH OUR NATIVE POLICIES NOW AND ALSO TO REMOVE SOME OF THESE PLASTIC VARIETALS THAT ARE SHOWING UP IN SOME OF OUR WELL-USED PARKS. SO THAT'S WHAT I HAVE. AND JUST EITHER SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED AN ACTION, BUT I JUST WANTED TO. WE DO THAT. PUT THAT OUT THERE. WE'VE DONE THAT FOR YEARS. OKAY. PLANTS. THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY IS THAT SOME, PARTICULARLY WITH OUR PARK SIGNS, WE JUST HAVE TO BE CAREFUL BECAUSE WE HAVE, WELL, YEAH, BUT WE ALSO HAVE A NUMBER OF RESIDENTS WHO HAVE EITHER FORMALLY OR INFORMALLY ADOPTED THOSE. SO SOME OF THOSE, WE DO HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE QUITE PASSIONATE ABOUT TAKING CARE OF CERTAIN ONES. YES. AS LONG AS THEY TAKE CARE OF THEM THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. THEY DO. AND SOME OF THEM JUST HAVEN'T COME UP YET. BUT THERE ARE SOME OF THOSE SIGNS THAT THE STAFF CAN LET YOU KNOW THAT PEOPLE ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT. WE TRY TO WORK WITH THEM. IT SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE OTHER VOLUNTEERS WHO ARE ALREADY DOING SOME OF THIS, BUT THE IDEA IS TO, AGAIN, WORK TOWARDS STANDARDIZATION AND MOVE AWAY FROM SOME OF THESE YEAR-ROUND PLASTIC. I'LL JUST FOLLOW UP WITH YOU ON THAT. THANK YOU. SO, MR. PERSHING, ANYTHING? NO UPDATE. JUST ONE THING. WE HAVE A PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR INTERVIEW NEXT WEEK, SO WE'LL BE PARTICIPATING WITH THAT. AND THEN JUST A NOTE, FOR PLANNING PURPOSES, I WILL BE GONE MAY 26TH, WHICH IS THE DAY AFTER MEMORIAL DAY. SPEAKING OF WHICH, I WILL BE GONE AT OUR NEXT MEETING MAY 11TH. THAT WILL BE IN CHINA AND JAPAN. TRIP THAT WAS PLANNED OVER TWO YEARS AGO, SO BEFORE I HAD ANY THOUGHTS OF BEING A PUBLIC SERVANT AT THE TIME. SO ANYWAY, I WILL BE GONE NEXT MEETING ON MAY 11TH. I DID WANT TO REPORT ON OUR BRAVER ANGELS EVENT THAT WE HAD LAST THURSDAY. SEVERAL COUNCIL MEMBERS, COUNCIL MEMBER RICKS AND COUNCIL MEMBER BENSON, WE'RE THERE. WE HAD A NICE SHOWING, ABOUT 30 PEOPLE OR SO, WHICH WAS A NICE NUMBER FOR THE ROOM THAT WE WERE IN. AND WE REALLY HAD A NICE HOUR AND A HALF DISCUSSION OF HOW TO BE CIVIL WITH ONE ANOTHER AND HOW TO TALK TO PEOPLE THAT HAVE DIFFERENT POLITICAL VIEWS THAN WE MAY HAVE. I JUST FOUND IT TO BE, I'D SEEN IT BEFORE, BUT I FOUND IT TO BE VERY INFORMATIONAL AND IMPORTANT FOR OUR SOCIETY THESE DAYS BECAUSE WE TEND TO HAVE POLARIZED OURSELVES BY POLITICAL AFFILIATION AND WE ALL HAVE A LOT MORE IN COMMON THAN WE THINK WE DO SOMETIMES. SO IT WAS A GOOD REMINDER OF THAT, AND I HOPE TO DO THAT AGAIN. IT WAS CO-HOSTED WITH LONG LAKE, AS YOU KNOW, AND THAT WAS A GOOD KIND OF SIGNAL TO THE COMMUNITY, TOO, THAT WE'RE GETTING ALONG AND DOING THINGS TOGETHER. SO I WAS PROUD OF THAT EVENT, AND AGAIN, HOPEFULLY WE CAN DO ONE AGAIN, MAYBE IN THE FALL, SO WATCH FOR THAT. I THINK WITH THAT, I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN. I GUESS I WOULD BE REMISS IN NOT ASKING FOR AN ATTORNEY'S REPORT. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT GOING ON THE LEGAL FRONT, WHICH IS GREAT. I NOTICED IN MS. JIN'S FINANCE REPORT, WE HAVEN'T SPENT VERY MUCH ON LEGAL THIS YEAR, SO WELL BELOW OUR BUDGET. SO THAT MEANS WE'RE STAYING OUT OF TROUBLE, I THINK. SO ANYTHING TO ADD THERE? NOTHING TO REPORT. OKAY, GREAT. WELL, WITH THAT, I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN. I MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. WE ARE ADJOURNED AT 8.40 WITH 50 MINUTES TO SPARE FOR THE START OF THE WOLVES GAME. THANK YOU. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.