[Roll Call]
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ALL RIGHT. IT IS 6:00, SO PLEASE JOIN ME IN RECITING THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
[Approval of Agenda]
FIRST ITEM I WOULD ASK OF THE COUNCIL IS THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.ANY CHANGES TO WHAT WE HAVE FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA?
[Consent Agenda]
ADDITIONS TO THE OVERALL AGENDA? TONIGHT'S CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS, WHICH ARE ITEMS THAT ARE CONSIDERED ROUTINE, WILL BE ENACTED IN ONE MOTION WITH NO DISCUSSION UNLESS A COUNCIL MEMBER OR STAFF REQUESTS THAT WE REMOVE THE ITEM FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR SEPARATE DISCUSSION.TONIGHT'S CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS ARE. THE CITY COUNCIL MINUTES FROM OUR LAST MEETING IN JANUARY.
FIRST MEETING IN JANUARY, I SHOULD SAY. CLAIMS AND BILLS.
SUBLEASE FOR NORTH MEMORIAL AMBULANCE SERVICES.
UTILITY EASEMENT AT, IT'S LIFT STATION 24, 3982 DAHL ROAD.
THAT'S RESOLUTION 7660. ITEM NUMBER 5, REPLACE A VEHICLE, FLEET MAINTENANCE SERVICE TRUCK.
AND NUMBER 6, REHABILITATION OF LIFT STATIONS 12 AND 22.
ANY CHANGES OR QUESTIONS ON THE AGENDA? MR. MAYOR? I'D LIKE TO ADD AN ITEM. LIKE TO HEAR AN UPDATE FROM OUR POLICE CHIEF ON THE STATUS OF CURRENT OPERATIONS OF ORONO POLICE WITH REGARD TO ONGOING FEDERAL OPERATIONS IN AND AROUND OUR CITY.
OKAY, I'D LIKE TO PULL ITEM 5 OFF THE CONSENT AGENDA.
FOR SEPARATE DISCUSSION, OKAY. I'D LIKE TO ADD A ITEM TO VOTE ON WHETHER WE JOIN A LAKE COMMUNITY COALITION TO HIRE A LOBBYIST. THAT WAS DISCUSSED AT LAST MEETING AT LAST, AT OUR LAST COUNCIL MEETING. SO WITH THAT, I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE OUR CONSENT AGENDA MINUS ITEM NUMBER 5.
SO MOVED. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. NOW WE'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
[Public Comments]
IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO ADDRESS.THE CITY COUNCIL WON'T ENGAGE IN ANY DISCUSSION BACK AND FORTH.
BUT WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU AND JUST ASK THAT YOU KEEP IN MIND THAT THERE MAY BE OTHER SPEAKERS AND SO PLEASE LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES IF YOU CAN, SO THAT EVERYBODY HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
ANYBODY WANT TO ADDRESS US TONIGHT? THE PODIUM IS YOURS.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. STU ACKMAN, 716 SANDSTONE CIRCLE.
NICE TO SEE YOU ALL THIS EVENING. I AM A ICE.
I MEAN, I'M A. HEY. YEAH, I'M A VOLUNTEER FOR SPARKS, AND A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, NONE OF THE HISPANIC KIDS CAME TO THE SEVENTH AND EIGHTH GRADERS.
AND I KNOW JUST FROM DISCUSSING WITH THE PEOPLE WHO ARE RUNNING THE SPARKS PROGRAM, THAT THERE'S A LOT OF STRESS IN THE HIGH SCHOOL AND ALL SCHOOLS, ALL ORONO SCHOOLS AS A RESULT OF ICE PRESENCE AND STAYING HOME AND NOT PARTICIPATING IN SCHOOL, FOOD, ALL THE REST OF IT, RIGHT. SO AND WE'VE SEEN THAT ICE AND BORDER PATROL HAVE BEEN LAWLESS AND REALLY BROUGHT A LOT OF DISORDER TO OUR COMMUNITY.
AND SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT ORONO CAN DO IN TERMS. WELL, I KNOW WHAT I'D LIKE ORONO TO DO, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CAN DO IT, OR IF YOU CAN DO IT RIGHT AWAY, BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING ADDRESSED QUITE QUICKLY THAT LIMITS ICE ACCESSIBILITY TO ORONO FACILITIES,
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SCHOOLS, CHURCHES, FACILITIES LIKE CHILD CARE, DAYCARE OF ALL KINDS.AND TO THAT END, YOU KNOW, WE RECOGNIZE, OF COURSE, THERE ARE BAD PEOPLE.
AND OF COURSE WE'RE GOING TO COOPERATE. THE POLICE ARE GOING TO COOPERATE WITH ICE IN THAT CASE.
IT'S NOT THAT WE DON'T WANT COOPERATION, BUT IT HAS TO BE JUDICIAL AND LEGAL AND COOPERATIVE.
AND SO TO THAT END, I'VE DRAFTED A RESOLUTION, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN JUST PUT THIS ON YOUR AGENDA AND GO LINE BY LINE AND ADOPT IT, WOULDN'T THAT BE NICE? BUT I AND I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN READ IT OR I JUST SUMMARIZE IT.
I THINK I'VE DONE A FAIRLY GOOD JOB OF SUMMARIZING IT.
YEAH, IF YOU DON'T, IF YOU DON'T MIND SUMMARIZING IT. AND IF YOU HAVE COPIES FOR EACH OF US, WE DID ADD AN AGENDA ITEM THAT WILL HAVE OUR POLICE CHIEF TALK ABOUT SOME OF THOSE ISSUES.
SO. OKAY, RESTRICTING THE USE OF CITY PROPERTY AND RESOURCES FOR FEDERAL CIVIL IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT AND ESTABLISHING PROTECTED BUFFER ZONES IS THE CAPTION ON THE RESOLUTION THAT'S GOT SOME WHEREASES.
RESTRICTION ON CITY USE, CITY USE OF PROPERTY.
PROTECTIONS OF PARKS AND RECREATIONAL AREAS. EXPANSION OF PROTECTED BUFFER ZONES, THIS WOULD INCLUDE EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS, RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS, LICENSED HUMAN SERVICE FACILITIES SUCH AS CHILDCARE CENTERS AND ADULT DAYCARES.
SHOULD FEDERAL AUTHORITIES REQUEST THE USE OF CITY PROPERTY FOR THE PURPOSES OF DESCRIBED HEREIN, CITY STAFF SHALL DECLINE SUCH REQUESTS UNLESS PRESENTED WITH A JUDICIAL WARRANT SIGNED BY A FEDERAL OR STATE JUDGE, SPECIFICALLY AUTHORIZING THE USE OF CITY PROPERTY.
THIS RESOLUTION APPLIES SOLELY TO CIVIL IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT, DOES NOT RESTRICT COOPERATION WITH FEDERAL AUTHORITIES IN MATTERS INVOLVING CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS, EMERGENCY RESPONSE, OR THREATS TO IMMEDIATE PUBLIC SAFETY.
SO IT WAS ME DIRECTING GEMINI TO DO THIS. I THINK IT CAME UP WITH A REASONABLY COHERENT RESOLUTION.
AND SO I WOULD LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER IT. YEAH.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. WELCOME. MY NAME IS JIM GAMBONE AND MY ADDRESS IS 1360 NORTH ARM DRIVE.
AND I SUPPORT THE RESOLUTION THAT STU JUST OFFERED BECAUSE I THINK IT'S A REASONABLE ONE.
THAT'S ILLEGAL. THAT'S UNCONSTITUTIONAL AND VIOLATES THE FOURTH AMENDMENT TO THE CONSTITUTION.
I THINK THAT ONE OF THE THINGS YOU COULD DO IS HELP INFORM OUR RESIDENTS, OUR NEIGHBORS, OUR BUSINESSES AND ANY OTHER INSTITUTIONS ABOUT WHAT THEY CAN DO IF THEY'RE CONFRONTED BY ICE.
FOR EXAMPLE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO OPEN A DOOR IF SOMEBODY PROVIDES AN ADMINISTRATIVE WARRANT.
A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THAT. ICE IS NOT A POLICE AGENCY.
IT'S AN ARM OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. IT'S NOT A POLICE ORGANIZATION.
IT'S AN AGENCY ORGANIZATION. AND THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN A POLICE ORGANIZATION.
SO I URGE YOU TO THINK AND USE YOUR OWN CREATIVITY TO THINK ABOUT THE WAYS THAT YOU CAN HELP INFORM OUR CITIZENS ABOUT WHAT ICE IS DOING AND WHAT THEY CAN DO TO HELP PROTECT THEMSELVES AGAINST ILLEGAL AND UNCONSTITUTIONAL ACTIVITY.
THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. CHERYL KULSETH, 725 STONE BAY DRIVE, ORONO.
I APPRECIATE THE COMMUNICATION SENT OUT BY ORONO LAST WEEK, BUT I'M REQUESTING THAT THE ORONO CITY COUNCIL BAND, TOGETHER WITH OTHER CITIES TO CALL FOR ICE OUT OF THE STATE.
ICE BELONGS IN OUR LAKES, ARENAS, RINKS, BUT NOT ON OUR STREETS, BUSINESSES, SCHOOLS AND HOMES.
THE HORROR UNFOLDING FOR ALL OF US TO SEE ON VIDEO IS ALMOST UNBEARABLE TO WATCH.
BUT OUR EYES ARE NOT LYING. THE MASKED ARMED ICE AGENTS ARE HIGHLY AGGRESSIVE.
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SO I HAVE A PROP. MY GRANDDAUGHTER, MY 12-YEAR-OLD GRANDDAUGHTER MADE THIS SIGN FOR ME FOR THE MARCH YESTERDAY.IT SAYS BELIEVE YOUR EYES BY ICE. SO I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT.
BUT I ALSO WANT TO CONTINUE. I WANTED TO PUT THAT IN FOR MY GRANDDAUGHTER WHO MADE THAT FOR ME.
FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE, I DO NOT BELIEVE ANYTHING COMING OUT OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
THAT'S INCREDIBLY SAD TO ME. THE GOOD. THE GOAL APPEARS TO BE PUNISH TO TO BE, TO PUNISH OUR STATE AND ITS CITIZENS, FOMENTING ANGER IN THE HOPES THAT THE TWIN CITIES WILL DEVOLVE INTO DESTRUCTIVE CHAOS SO THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CAN SEND IN TROOPS AND DECLARE MARTIAL LAW.
WHATEVER ISSUES THE STATE OF MINNESOTA HAS, I DO TRUST OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS TO ADDRESS THOSE.
WE DO NOT NEED THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TRAMPLING ON STATES RIGHTS.
IF MINNESOTA CAVES TO THE PRESSURE, I FEAR, SO GOES THE REST OF THE COUNTRY.
I'M A MOM, A GRANDMOTHER, A NURSE WHO SPENT 15 YEARS WORKING IN THE ICU.
AND I SAY, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. THANK YOU. THIS IS MY SHOW AND TELL.
I'M PAT DOHERTY. 48 YEARS IN ORONO. AND IF YOU COUNT THE SEVEN IRON, IT WOULD BE FROM A DEAN OF MORNINGSIDE, MAKE THAT 54. OKAY. I SUPPORT VERY MUCH WHAT THE PREVIOUS SPEAKERS HAVE SAID. I'M GOING TO FOCUS ON ONE THING. IN THAT 56 YEARS, 54 YEARS.
I HAVE NEVER SEEN THIS COMMUNITY BE A COWARD WHEN IT CAME TO LEADING.
YOU EXPECT BETTER OUT OF US AS CITIZENS OF THIS COMMUNITY.
IT IS FAIR THAT YOU ACT IN THE SAME WAY. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SEEING NO ONE ELSE, WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 7, WHICH IS THE PARKS COMMISSION RESIGNATION AND RECRUITMENT.
[7. Park Commission Resignation and Recruitment]
JOE? YES. I JUST WANTED TO BRING IN FRONT OF YOU GUYS.WE HAD A COUPLE OF RESIGNATIONS FROM THE PARKS COMMISSION.
BRIAN ROTH AND JANIE DELANEY. SO WE WILL HAVE TWO OPEN PARKS COMMISSION SPACES ON THE COMMISSION OPEN. WE ARE CURRENTLY RECRUITING FOR THOSE WE HAVE POSTED AND IS ON THE WEBSITE FOR THAT.
WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF APPLICANTS. THE OTHER THING I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP IS A TIME WHERE WE CAN SET INTERVIEW TIME. I THINK LAST TIME IT KIND OF TOOK OVER A WHOLE WORK SESSION, WHICH WE'RE TRYING TO AVOID.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE OPEN TO KIND OF WHAT'S GOING TO WORK FOR YOU.
SO HE DOESN'T MONOPOLIZE YOUR TIME GETTING WORK DONE.
OKAY. SO ARE YOU THINKING IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS BEFORE OUR NEXT MEETING OR.
NO, SO WE'RE GOING TO KEEP IT OPEN UNTIL THROUGH THE THROUGH THE NEXT MONTH THROUGH FEBRUARY.
WE MAY HAVE ONE MORE OPENING AS WELL ON THE COMMISSION, SINCE SOME PEOPLE'S TERMS ARE.
SO WE MIGHT END UP WITH THREE MOST LIKELY. SO PROBABLY SOMETIME END OF FEBRUARY.
WHAT DO YOU. YEAH. JUST TO MAKE SURE WE CAN GET THEM SEATED FOR THE MARCH MEETING.
AND WHAT WE'RE KIND OF LOOKING FOR IS JUST TO GAUGE THE COUNCIL'S WILLINGNESS TO HAVE, IN ESSENCE, A SPECIAL WORK SESSION TO CONDUCT INTERVIEWS RATHER THAN TRYING TO PUT THEM ON EXISTING SCHEDULE.
AND IF THE COUNCIL IS OPEN TO SUCH A THING, THEN LIKE WE'VE DONE FOR OTHER THINGS, YOU KNOW, I CAN SEND OUT A SURVEY MONKEY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO GAUGE AVAILABILITY OF THE COUNCIL STAFF TO THOSE INTERVIEWS, IF COUNCIL WOULD BE OPEN TO THAT. WE'VE TRIED IN THE PAST TO DO THEM IN WORK SESSIONS, BUT WHEN YOU ONLY HAVE AN HOUR AND YOU MIGHT HAVE 3 OR 4 CANDIDATES,
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THAT CAN BE VERY COMPRESSED. YEAH. ANY OBJECTION TO THAT? NO, NO, I HAVE ONE QUESTION YOU MENTIONED, I THINK IT WAS IN AN UPDATE THAT YOU'VE DONE SOME RECRUITING ALREADY.WHAT FORMS OF RECRUITING HAVE ALREADY OCCURRED? YEAH. SO WE DID A KIND OF EMAIL BLAST, WHICH WE DO THROUGH OUR CITY EMAIL TO, TO ALL THE RESIDENTS, ANYONE WHO SIGNED UP FOR THAT, WE HAVE PUT A FACEBOOK POST AND IT IS ON THE WEBSITE.
SO WE'RE OPEN TO ANY OTHER METHODS OF REACHING OUT TO PEOPLE.
WHAT I'VE FOUND IS THE BEST WAY IS KIND OF WORD OF MOUTH IS PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY.
COUNCIL MEMBERS STAFF TALKING TO PEOPLE AND SAYING, HEY, ARE YOU INTERESTED? AND USUALLY THAT'S A GOOD WAY TO TO RECRUIT SOME, SOME GOOD CANDIDATES.
OKAY, GREAT. GOOD. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THAT? ALL RIGHT. SO I'LL MAKE I'LL MAKE A MOTION THEN TO ACCEPT THE RESOLUTION AND DIRECT STAFF TO SEND OUT A SURVEY TO FIND DATES, TO HAVE A SPECIAL SESSION FOR SECOND YEAR.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. SORRY, I DIDN'T REALIZE THERE WAS A RESOLUTION REQUIRED THERE.
SO I GUESS WE HAVE TO ACCEPT THOSE RESIGNATIONS.
ALL RIGHT. LET'S MOVE ON TO THE 2026 GOALS. AND
[8. 2026 Goals]
FOR THAT, I WILL TURN IT BACK OVER TO MR. EDWARDS.DISCUSSION. MR. MAYOR. YES. ONE QUESTION. MY ADAM OR MY ITEM ADDED FOR THE POLICE UPDATE, IS THAT GOING TO COME LATER? YES. OKAY. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU SO MUCH. YEAH.
WE STILL HAVE ITEM 5 TO DO AS WELL. YES. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL JUST WANTED TO RECAP WHERE WE ARE AND THEN FOR THE AUDIENCE AS WELL. SO THE CITY BEGAN WORKING ON DEVELOPING SOME GOALS FOR 2026 A WEEK AGO AT A SPECIAL WORK SESSION.
THE AGENDA WE FOLLOWED AT THE TIME WAS WE REVIEWED THE OVERARCHING CITY MISSION VISIONS AND GOALS.
AND THEN JUST TO REITERATE, THE GOAL OF THE SESSION WAS NOT TO REDO THOSE.
WHEN WE GOT TO THE END OF THE WORK SESSION WE HAD SIX DRAFT GOALS.
STAFF TOOK THOSE GOALS AWAY AND WE TRIED TO FLESH OUT RESOURCING AND TIMING AND PUT A LITTLE BIT CALL IT A PROTO PLAN, BEHIND EACH OF THOSE OF WHAT WE THOUGHT THE INTENT OF THE GROUP WAS THAT THAT DEVELOPED THOSE GOALS.
AND SO THOSE WORKSHEETS WORKING DOCUMENTS WERE IN YOUR COUNCIL PACKET FOR THIS EVENING IN THE BACK.
AND THEN THE IDEA WAS TO BRING THOSE TO YOU THIS EVENING FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION AND HOPEFULLY EVENTUALLY ADOPTION SO THAT WE CAN BEGIN TO WORK ON THOSE, SO I LEFT IT IN HERE. CITY MISSION VISION GOALS AVAILABLE ON THE CITY WEBSITE.
THE DRAFT GOALS. I TRIED TO JUST COPY AND PASTE WHAT WAS ON THOSE SHEETS.
BUT I DID LEAVE OUT THE SMART SECTION, WHICH IS SMART ANALYSIS THAT WE DID.
THAT'S ON THE WORKSHEET YOU HAVE THAT WE DID DURING THE WORK SESSION AND KIND OF EXPAND IT HERE.
SO THE FIRST GOAL WAS THE ESTABLISHMENT OF SOME KIND OF COMMUNITY EVENT AND KIND OF A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL WAS TO ESTABLISH ONE OR MORE COMMUNITY EVENTS HIGHLIGHTING THE CITY IN PARTNERSHIP WITH COMMUNITY GROUPS.
AND THEN A LITTLE CAVEAT OF, AT A MINIMUM, HAVING TREE LIGHTING AT CITY HALL IN 2026.
AS WE TRIED TO ANALYZE THIS, STAFF KIND OF BROKE THIS INTO TWO CHUNKS.
THE IDEA WAS TO HAVE SOME COMMUNITY EVENT IN THE FALL, IDEALLY IN COORDINATION WITH SOME KIND OF COMMUNITY GROUP AND SO THAT'S WHAT'S BROKEN DOWN IN THE SECOND ONE. IN BOTH CASES WHAT WE THOUGHT WE WOULD NEED TO DO IS FIRST THING IS ESTABLISH SOME KIND OF COMMITTEE.
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WE ENVISION MAYBE TWO DIFFERENT COMMITTEES TO START WITH ONE FOCUSED ON PURELY THE TREE LIGHTING AND THEN ANOTHER ON THE BIGGER KIND OF ENDEAVOR, BUT THEY COULD ULTIMATELY MERGE INTO ONE. BUT THE IDEA WAS TO HAVE SOME COMMITTEES GET THOSE SET UP AND GET PEOPLE TALKING PARTICULARLY FOR DOING A TREE LIGHTING.SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE IDEAS THERE OF WHAT WE WOULD NEED TO DO.
THE FALL, FOR A FALL EVENT WE SET UP A COMMITTEE WHOSE FIRST REAL EMPHASIS WOULD BE OUTREACH TO COMMUNITY GROUPS TO SEE WHAT'S AVAILABLE. I WILL SAY JUST LAST WEEK, I THINK IT WAS ON FRIDAY.
THE NEW PLANNING CHAIR FOR CORN DAYS REACHED OUT TO ME AND ASKED IF THE CITY WOULD LIKE TO SOMEHOW PARTICIPATE, WHICH. SO I SAID, YOUR TIMING IS IMPECCABLE. WE JUST WE JUST HAD THIS GOAL, SO WE HAVE A MEETING SET UP FIRST WEEK OF FEBRUARY JUST TO SEE WHAT'S ART OF THE POSSIBLE THERE. SO, YES, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE TOOK AWAY.
SO I THROW THIS BACK TO THE COUNCIL FOR CONFIRMATION.
THIS IS KIND OF WHAT YOU WANT US TO DO OR NOT.
AND WE CAN GO FROM THERE. MY THOUGHT WAS KIND OF GO THROUGH EACH ONE SEPARATELY.
IS IT TRUE THAT THIS IS THE ORDER OF IMPORTANCE IN WHICH THE GROUP WHICH COMBINES STAFF OR DIRECTORS WITH COUNCIL, THIS IS THE RANK ORDER IN WHICH THEY WERE. ACTUALLY RANKED, I PUT THEM IN THIS IN THE ORDER THAT YOU SEE THEM AS THE RANK ORDER FROM THE CITY COUNCIL.
FROM CITY COUNCIL, OKAY. OKAY. THERE WERE SOME WHEN I SEPARATED, I, JUST BECAUSE I WAS CURIOUS WHEN I SEPARATED RANK ORDERING FROM THE DEPARTMENT HEADS VERSUS THE CITY COUNCIL. ITEMS IN THE MIDDLE WERE EXACTLY THE SAME WE WERE FLIP FLOPPED.
I THINK WE HAD, STAFF HAD THE COMMUNITY EVENT TOWARDS THE END, BUT.
SO FOR THE SINCE THESE ARE THE COUNCIL'S GOALS, I PUT THEM IN THE COUNCIL'S ORDER.
BUT I DO THINK FOR THE MOST PART, ALL OF THESE GOALS ARE ACHIEVABLE.
AT LEAST A GOOD START ON MOST OF THEM REGARDLESS OF THE PRIORITIES.
I MEAN, IT'S INTERESTING, BUT I THINK WE CAN KNOCK MOST OF THESE OUT.
NO QUESTIONS ON THIS PARTICULAR GOAL. I GUESS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ON ALL OF THESE ACTUALLY, IS SORT OF A AND WE CAN DECIDE HOW OFTEN WE COME BACK TO THIS, BUT WE NEED TO REVISIT THESE THROUGHOUT THE YEAR TO SEE KIND OF HOW WE'RE DOING.
AND WHAT I'VE SEEN IN, IN A CORPORATE SETTING IS, YOU KNOW, RED, GREEN, YELLOW.
HOW ARE WE DOING AGAINST THESE GOALS? AND I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT AT SOME POINT.
I DON'T KNOW HOW SOON WE WANT TO SEE THAT BACK, WHETHER IT'S A QUARTERLY THING OR JUST A MID-YEAR CHECK IN, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT WHEN YOU'RE PARTICULARLY USING A SORT OF A SMART GOALS TYPE OF FORMAT LIKE THIS, TO SAY, HEY, HOW ARE WE DOING AGAINST THESE THINGS? BECAUSE IT'S MEASURABLE. THERE'S THINGS THAT NEED TO BE DONE BY A CERTAIN TIMES.
AND, AND I'D LOVE TO SEE US DO THAT. KEEP US ON TRACK.
I AGREE, IS THAT SOMETHING WE COULD BUILD INTO? NOT JUST WEEKLY SUMMARIES, BUT TO COUNCIL MEETINGS IN TERMS OF AN UPDATE? YEP. I THINK I, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WERE TO ASK ME, I WOULDN'T WANT TO DO IT MORE THAN QUARTERLY.
YEAH. JUST OTHERWISE WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME TRYING TO PRODUCE REPORTS AND NOT EXECUTE RIGHT GOALS.
BUT YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE. I WAS THINKING ABOUT THIS AFTER YOU BROUGHT IT UP EARLIER TODAY.
MR. MAYOR WAS, MAYBE WE COULD JUST INCORPORATE ON THE SAME TIME THAT WHENEVER MAGGIE PROVIDES QUARTERLY UPDATE ON THOSE SAME COUNCIL MEETINGS, WE COULD PROVIDE A QUARTERLY GOALS UPDATE. YEAH.
THAT'S GREAT. AS A WAY TO DO IT. AND I THINK YOU CAPTURED WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT HERE, SO.
OKAY, LET'S MOVE ON. THE NEXT ONE WAS CUSTOMER SERVICE METRICS USED AND EXPAND AND WE, THE GROUP THAT DEVELOPED THIS DURING THE WORK SESSION.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED I HAPPEN TO BE IN THAT GROUP TALKED ABOUT WAS USING AND EXPANDING EXISTING WORKFLOW TRACKING SYSTEMS THAT WE HAVE TO PROVIDE SOME CUSTOMER SERVICE REPORTS. SO THE SUB OBJECTIVES IN THIS ONE, WE BASICALLY BROKE DOWN AS A TIMELINE OF, IN ORDER TO REESTABLISH SOME OF THE EXISTING SYSTEMS THAT WE HAVE IN PARTICULAR.
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SO YOU CAN SEE THERE WE WOULD START BY ASSESSING AND REFRESHING OUR EXISTING TRACKING SYSTEM.SO WE HAVE A NUMBER OF SYSTEMS THAT WE TRACK VARIOUS ITEMS THAT WE TAKE IN FROM THE PUBLIC, WHETHER THOSE BE OUR PROPERTY COMPLAINT CODE VIOLATION SYSTEM, OUR PERMITTING SYSTEMS, OR OUR WORKFLOW TRACKING SYSTEMS THAT WE USE WITH THE PUBLIC TO TRACK PUBLIC WORKS AND PARKS ACTIVITIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO WE HAVE A BUNCH OF THESE SYSTEMS. AND WE ALSO SEVERAL YEARS AGO, THE LAST TIME THIS KIND OF SUBJECT CAME UP WE REACHED OUT AND IMPLEMENTED WHAT'S CALLED PROBLEM, SYSTEM PROBLEM REPORTER, WHICH IS AN ONLINE APPLICATION THAT ALLOWS FOLKS TO SEND IN ISSUES OR CONCERNS IN VARIOUS CATEGORIES AND WHAT HAVE YOU TO THE CITY.
WE KICKED IT OFF. IT DIDN'T REALLY TAKE OFF A LOT.
BUT IF THERE'S AN IMPETUS TO GO THAT DIRECTION ONE OF THE THINGS WE THOUGHT WAS WE COULD DUST THAT BACK OFF, RELOOK AT IT, BRING IT BACK. IT MIGHT BE A GOOD SYSTEM TO USE TO TRY TO CAPTURE THE DATA.
I THINK THAT THE COUNCIL WAS LOOKING FOR. AS WELL AS WE WOULD DOCUMENT THE PROCESSES AND THE EXISTING METRICS ALL IN ONE, ONE DOCUMENT. AND THEN THE IDEA IS THEN TO TEST THAT AND THEN BRING IT BACK TO THE COUNCIL BY THE END OF THE FIRST QUARTER TO KIND OF SHOW, DO A SHOW AND TELL OF THIS IS THIS IS WHAT WE'RE THINKING, DO A LITTLE BIT OF AN AZIMUTH CHECK.
IF IT MEETS THE NEEDS THEN FULLY IMPLEMENT IT AND ROLL IT OUT THERE AND THEN USE IT.
SO. GREAT. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THIS? NO, THE ONLY THE ONLY THING THAT I'LL ADD TO THIS IS I THINK IT'S WELL DOCUMENTED IN HERE.
THE BASIS BEHIND THIS PARTICULAR GOAL WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CREATE A PROCESS THAT WE CAN REALLY UNDERSTAND THE ISSUES THAT ARE BEING PRESENTED FROM CITIZENS IN THE COMMUNITY AND KNOW THAT THERE'S A PROCESS THAT'S KEEPING TRACK OF HOW THOSE ARE GOING AND THAT WE AS A COMMUNITY ARE RESPONDING BACK TO THAT REQUEST FOR INFORMATION OR CONCERN THAT THEY HAVE IN A MANNER THAT DOESN'T JUST KIND OF FALL OFF THE TABLE. SO I THINK THAT THE SUCCESS CRITERIA AND METRICS IN THIS PARTICULAR GOAL ARE GOOD.
I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT THE METRICS AREN'T TIED TO THE FACT THAT THE SYSTEM IS NOW WORKING, THEY'RE UP AND RUNNING. BUT THE FACT THAT THE COMMUNITY AND THE CITIZENS THAT FILED A CONCERN OR SHARED A CONCERN ARE GETTING RESPONSE, AND WE'RE MAKING RESOLUTION TO THAT REQUEST OR THAT BIT OF FEEDBACK.
OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? LET'S MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE.
DO YOU WANT TO TAKE A STAB AT THIS ONE, JOE? SURE.
SO WE BROKE IT DOWN INTO BASICALLY THREE BIG OBJECTIVES, YOU KNOW, TO THE FIRST ONE KIND OF HAS A LOT TO DO WITH THE PARK COMMISSION MAKING SURE THE PARK COMMISSION'S ROLES AND FOCUS ARE ESTABLISHED IN THE MEETINGS, REFLECT THOSE GOALS AND FOCUS AREAS. AND THEN JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ESTABLISHING OUR SHORT-TERM GOALS AND LONG-TERM GOALS, THAT THEN WILL INFORM THE REST OF THE MEETINGS FOR THAT YEAR AND KIND OF BEING A LITTLE MORE FOCUSED.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, TAKING INPUT FROM COUNCIL TO INFORM THOSE GOALS YOU KNOW, THAT WORK WILL START AT OUR NEXT MEETING, WHICH IS NEXT WEEK, I THINK. SO WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED IT, I'VE DISCUSSED IT WITH KIM AND A FEW OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS.
SO THEY'RE KIND OF STEWING ON THAT ALREADY. OUR SECOND ONE WAS A PRIORITY OF CITY PARKS.
A LOT OF THIS WORK HAS ALREADY KIND OF BEEN STARTED.
BUT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE CATEGORIZING THE PARKS AND THEN EVALUATING THEIR CURRENT STATUS AND HOW WE CAN GET THEM UP TO THE STANDARDS THAT WE SEE FIT FOR EACH OF THE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES OF PARKS.
SO THAT, YOU KNOW, WOULD INCLUDE CURRENT CONDITIONS AND THEN FUTURE USE AND YOU KNOW, MAINTENANCE, ANY KIND OF AMENITIES. AND THAT OF COURSE, WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, INCLUDE COUNCIL INPUT, PARKS COMMISSION INPUT, CITIZENS. HOPEFULLY. AND THEN OF COURSE, OUR THIRD ONE IS THE HACKBERRY PROJECT, WHICH I KNOW IS A BIG FOCUS FROM COUNCIL
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JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE STAYING ON TASK FOR THAT TO GET SOME WORK DONE THERE, SO THE FIELDS CAN BE USED BY THE CITIZENS. QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? NOPE. NOPE. THE NEXT ONE WAS FINANCIAL STEWARDSHIP, MAINTAINING FINANCIAL STEWARDSHIP AND BUILDING TRUST AND TRANSPARENCY THROUGH TIMELY AND HONEST COMMUNICATIONS.THE GIST OF THIS ENTIRE ONE WAS WORKING ON OUR COMMUNICATIONS PLAN AROUND OUR BUDGETING PROCESS.
MAGGIE, DID YOU WANT TO ADD ANY DETAILS? SO BASICALLY JUST EXPLAINING THE BUDGET PROCESS CYCLE MORE TO COUNCIL AT THE WORK SESSION AND THEN ALSO UPDATING BOTH COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC MORE IF THERE ARE LEGISLATURE UPDATES THAT WOULD IMPACT PROPERTY TAXES BOTH ON A CITY LEVEL AND OR COUNTY OR WIDER LEVEL.
AND THEN ALSO DOING EXTRA SPECIAL ASSESSMENT NOTIFICATION SO THAT FOLKS KNOW THAT THOSE WARNINGS ARE COMING UP. SO HOPE HOPEFULLY REDUCING QUESTIONS AND, AND IMPROVING TRANSPARENCY AND WHATNOT THROUGH FINANCIAL EDUCATION.
THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THIS? LET'S MOVE ON. OKAY. NEXT WE HAVE NUMBER 5, FACILITIES ASSET MANAGEMENT.
ENSURE OUR FACILITIES, SERVICES AND CAPABILITIES ARE UTILIZED TO THEIR FULLEST POTENTIAL.
AS AN EXAMPLE, PUBLIC WORKS, SERVICES, MAINTENANCE AND FACILITIES USE.
THERE ARE THREE MAIN SUBSECTIONS OF THIS THAT WE TOOK AWAY FROM THE WORK SESSION.
ONE IS TO LOOK AT OPTIMIZING THE USE OF THE PUBLIC WORKS AND PARKS FACILITY.
THE NEW FACILITY ACROSS THE WAY AND HOW WE WOULD DO THAT OFFERING ADDITIONAL SERVICES TO NEIGHBORING AGENCIES, WHETHER THAT BE SPACE OR SERVICES TO COMPLEMENT WHAT WE ALREADY DO.
SECOND MAJOR AREA WAS IDENTIFY FUTURE USE OF THE OLD PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY AND GROUNDS.
SO LOOKING AT A FACILITY, A SPECIFIC FACILITIES USE STUDY FOR THAT BUILDING AND GROUNDS.
WE HAVE NOT DONE ONE OF THOSE IN AT LEAST A DECADE AT LEAST AN EXTERNAL ONE.
WE'VE DONE IN-HOUSE REVIEWS OF PARTICULAR FACILITIES.
BUT DOING A SOME KIND OF CONDITIONS BASED STUDY OF OUR FACILITIES.
I KNOW THEY'VE GOT PROPOSALS ON THAT, AND MIGHT BE GOOD FOR US TO ALSO LOOK AT SOME OF OUR OTHER FACILITIES AND, AND KIND OF NARROW DOWN SOME OF THE LONG-TERM NEEDS FOR THOSE FACILITIES SO WE CAN PROPERLY PLAN THE RESOURCING THAT WILL BE NECESSARY.
GREAT. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ACTUALLY, I DO TAKE A LITTLE EXCEPTION WITH FINISHING THE PUBLIC WORKS SALT SHED AND COMMODITIES YARD.
AT THIS POINT, I'M NOT LOOKING TO HAVE THAT FINISHED IN 2026.
ESPECIALLY HACKBERRY AND I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THE SURVEYS HAVE TO DO.
AND ACTUALLY, EVEN BEFORE THAT, I'D LIKE TO SEE THE FACILITIES AND SEE WHAT KIND OF MONEY NEEDS TO GO INTO SOME OF OUR FACILITIES BEFORE I WOULD EMBARK ON MOVING DOWN THAT ROAD. SO I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT.
I HAVE A QUESTION WITH THE FACILITY CONDITION STUDY THAT SEEMS QUITE DIFFERENT THAN A STUDY, WHICH IS WHAT I WAS PERHAPS GETTING AT A LITTLE BIT MORE IN THAT SESSION ABOUT THE ASSETS IN TERMS OF THE FACILITIES WE HAVE AND HOW THEY MIGHT BE USED,
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OR HOW THE POTENTIAL SPACE OR THE SPACE OUTSIDE OF THE NEW PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY.SO I'M JUST WONDERING IF THERE'S ANY INTENTION THAT OUR CITY IS GOING TO BE LOOKING AT OUR GLOBAL ASSETS IN TERMS OF THESE FACILITIES PRIOR TO GOING TO WORK, OR PROPOSING ANY MORE WORK TO BUILD A COMMODITIES YARD OUTSIDE THE NEW PUBLIC WORKS.
SO I GUESS WE UNDERSTOOD TOOK THAT AWAY AS TWO DIFFERENT, TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
ONE IS SPECIFIC TO THE OLD PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY AND GROUNDS IS, WHAT COULD ITS FUTURE USE BE? AND DOING A STUDY ON THAT. THE THIRD THING THEY'RE EVALUATING AND DOING A CONDITIONS SURVEY IS LOOKING AT THE ACTUAL BUILDINGS AND HAVING YOU KNOW, A FACILITIES EXPERT COME IN AND SAY YOU'VE GOT TEN YEARS LEFT ON THE ROOF, YOU'VE GOT 15 YEARS LEFT ON THE HEATING SYSTEM.
YOU KNOW, THOSE, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS TO, TO DO AN ASSESSMENT OF WHAT IS THE CONDITION OF THE FACILITY AND WHERE ARE THOSE MAJOR RESOURCING NEEDS FOR THOSE FACILITIES, SO WE CAN BE PLANNING THOSE THINGS OUT.
WE'VE DONE SOME OF THAT IN-HOUSE, BUT KIND OF REALLY AT A GROSS BIG PICTURE LEVEL OF, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW ROUGHLY WHEN THE ROOFS ARE GOING ON, THE BUILDINGS FROM OUR ANNUAL ROOF INSPECTIONS, BUT WE HAVEN'T WE HAVEN'T REALLY HOLISTICALLY HAD SOMEBODY JUST COME, COME THROUGH WITH A FINE TOOTH COMB OF LOOKING AT OUR FACILITIES AND, AND FINDING ISSUES THAT WE MIGHT HAVE AND MIGHT NOT KNOW.
SO IT'S KIND OF TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. I MEAN, WE CERTAINLY COULD EXPAND TO HAVE A WIDER STUDY TO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, WHAT OTHER USES MIGHT THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS BE USED FOR? WHAT, YOU KNOW, THE, WHAT ELSE MIGHT WE USE? THE I'M TRYING TO THINK OF OTHER FACILITIES.
THE POLICE EOC FOR THINGS LIKE THAT, THESE OTHER THINGS THAT MIGHT HAVE SOME OTHER USES OTHER THAN WHAT THEY'RE KIND OF DESIGNED AND DESIGNATED PURPOSES. DO YOU RECALL THE LAST TIME, OR HAS OUR CITY DONE ANY TYPE OF MORE COMPREHENSIVE EVALUATION OF ALL OF OUR FACILITIES THAT ARE OWNED AND HOW THEY'RE BEING UTILIZED? HAS THAT HAPPENED IN THE PAST? NO. NOT A UTILIZATION.
YEAH, YEAH. I'VE SEEN PRIOR CONDITIONS STUDIES OR SURVEYS WHERE, YOU KNOW, A CONSULTANT COMES THROUGH AND TELLS YOU, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT YOU NEED TO DO OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS TO KEEP THE BUILDING, YOU KNOW, HABITABLE THOSE KIND OF THINGS, BUT NOT, WHERE THEY LOOKED AND KIND OF SAID, OH, WELL, MAYBE YOU COULD USE THIS BUILDING FOR SOMETHING ELSE.
OKAY, I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS. THANKS.
YEAH, AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THE POSSIBILITY OF DOING A SALT SHED OR MOVING THE SALT SHED AND COMMODITIES YARD, TO ME, THAT SORT OF TIES INTO WHAT WE MIGHT DO WITH THE OLD PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY, WHICH IS WHERE IT'S LOCATED NOW.
AND IF THERE'S SOME USE FOR THAT, THAT WOULD BE INCOMPATIBLE WITH HAVING A COMMODITIES YARD THERE.
I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY THE TIME TO MOVE IT OVER.
ALL RIGHT. TWO MORE. AND THE LAST, THE SIXTH ONE WAS COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND RELATIONSHIP BUILDING CONDUCTING A STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION FOR 27-29.
THIS IS, GOES BACK TO AT THE BEGINNING OF THE BRIEFING, WHERE WE SAID THE SCOPE OF WHAT WE DID WAS NOT TO RELOOK OUR MISSION/VISION GOALS, OVERARCHING MISSION/VISION GOALS FOR THE CITY.
AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS DO REQUIRE A CONSULTANT ASSISTANT AND COMPARABLE RESOURCES SO LAID OUT A KIND OF A PLAN HERE OF HOW WE COULD DEVELOP THAT YOU KNOW, FIRST WITH TRYING TO FIGURE OUT SCOPE, WHAT IT IS WE WANTED TO ACCOMPLISH WITH THAT PLAN SO WE COULD PUT TOGETHER BUDGETARY NUMBERS TO INFORM THE KIND OF THE THOUGHT WAS TO BE ABLE TO INFORM THE 2027 BUDGET SO THAT WE COULD CONDUCT SUCH A THING, YOU KNOW, EARLY 2027. AND SO THAT'S KIND OF HOW THIS TIMELINE IS LAID OUT, IS GOING THROUGH A PROCESS OF FIGURING OUT WHAT IT IS EXACTLY WE WANT TO DO, FIGURING THE RESOURCES OUT THAT WE NEED TO DO THAT.
AND THEN OBVIOUSLY IMPLEMENTING IT. SO THAT WAS KIND OF THE GIST OF IT.
I KNOW. I'VE GOT LAURA WHO HELPED FLESH THIS ONE OUT.
IF THERE ARE ANY PARTICULAR QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS COMMENTS?
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I JUST HAVE A QUESTION. SO THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE TACKLING THIS CALENDAR YEAR.ANY TYPE OF WORKING SESSION WITH COUNCIL. THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE ANYWAY.
BUT YEAH. SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE FIRST PART IS, IS BUDGETING AND FIGURING OUT THE SCOPE OF THE EXERCISE OR THE ENDEAVOR THAT WE WOULD UNDERTAKE IN, YOU KNOW, IN APRIL IS KIND OF WHEN WE PUT SOME TIME DOWN TO DO THAT SO THAT WE COULD KIND OF COME UP WITH SOMETHING SO THAT BY JUNE, WHEN WE START THE BUDGETING FOR 2027, WE CAN SAY, OH, WELL, WHAT WE'RE ENVISIONING DOING AS A $10,000 EXERCISE, OR A $20,000 EXERCISE OR WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE.
SO THEN WE HAD THOSE RESOURCES AVAILABLE THEN TO EXECUTE IT.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANKS. SO IS THIS, JUST GO BACK AND DETERMINE WHETHER THIS IS A RESOLUTION WE NEED TO ADOPT TO APPROVE THESE GOALS.
WE SPENT ABOUT, WHAT, 4.5 HOURS ONE MORNING GOING THROUGH THIS AND I WOULD LIKE TO COMMEND MR. EDWARDS FOR SETTING UP A REALLY EFFECTIVE PROCESS, I THINK.
SO APPRECIATE THE, THE EFFORT AND ALL OF STAFF BECAUSE I KNOW IT WASN'T JUST YOU.
I THINK YOU LEANED HEAVILY ON OTHER MEMBERS OF STAFF.
SO WITH THAT ANY OTHER DISCUSSION QUESTIONS? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF WHAT'S BEEN MOVED SAY AYE.
AYE. ANY OPPOSITION? MOTION CARRIES. ALL RIGHT.
SO I THINK WE WILL MOVE NOW TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE, WHICH WAS PULLED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA.
YES. I WANTED TO PULL THE FLEET MAINTENANCE SERVICE TRUCK OFF, JUST FOR DISCUSSION.
I KNOW IN THE NOTES THAT THEY TALKED ABOUT A TRANSFER OF A TRUCK, THE UTILITY VEHICLE WITH A CRANE FROM UTILITIES TO FLEET AND THEN PURCHASE STANDARD UTILITY TRUCK.
WHEN THEY WERE GOING TO TRANSFER THE TRUCK, THEY MENTIONED THAT BOTH UTILITIES AND THE FLEET COULD USE THE THE NEW TRUCK WITH THE CRANE AND STUFF. SO I GUESS PART OF MY QUESTION WAS, WHAT WAS THE UTILITY TRUCK GOING TO BE USED FOR? AND THEN DO WE HAVE A VEHICLE THAT COULD SERVE THOSE NEEDS? AND AFTER I ASKED THOSE QUESTIONS I CONTACTED ADAM AND TALKED ABOUT WHETHER IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE FOR ME TO GET A LIST OF EVERYTHING THAT'S IN THE FLEET, WHAT WE USE IT FOR? WHAT'S THE CONDITION OF IT? AND ALSO GET A CHANCE TO GO AND SEE THE FLEET.
SO I'VE GOT A MEETING ON FRIDAY TO GO TO PUBLIC WORKS AND GO AND INSPECT THE FLEET.
SO IF YOU GUYS ARE OKAY WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO TABLE THIS UNTIL I ABLE TO DO THAT.
I JUST WOULD LIKE TO ANSWER THE ONE QUESTION, SO.
OH, SURE. WE ARE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MOVING SOME THINGS AROUND.
SO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING IS THE ONE VEHICLE THAT JUST NEEDS TO BE RETIRED OUT OF THE FLEET.
THOSE ARE THE ONES YOU HAVE THE PICTURES IN WHERE THE SUSPENSION, WE COULD NOT DO AN ALIGNMENT THIS YEAR AND WHAT HAVE YOU. SO THE IDEA IS THAT TRUCK NEEDS TO GO AWAY. NORMALLY WE WOULD DO JUST A ONE FOR ONE REPLACEMENT REPLACE LIKE WITH LIKE HOWEVER FLEET DID SOME, DID SOME ANALYSIS AND THOUGHTS ABOUT HOW, HOW WE'RE USING OUR FLEET.
AND SO RATHER THAN BUYING A DIRECT REPLACEMENT FOR THAT VEHICLE, WHICH IS COMES WITH A CRANE AND SOME OTHER THINGS IS TO TAKE RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE TWO VEHICLES IN OUR UTILITIES DEPARTMENT THAT HAVE THIS CRANE FEATURE ON THEM.
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PUTTING A LOT LESS MILES ON IT. IT'S STILL BE AVAILABLE TO UTILITIES.SO THEY DO NEED THAT. THEY DON'T NEED IT EVERY DAY.
THEY NEED, YOU KNOW, A FEW TIMES A MONTH KIND OF THING.
SO SO THEN TO GIVE THE UTILITIES FOLKS A STANDARD STANDARD PICKUP TRUCK WITH TOOLBOXES ON THE BACK WHICH IS COSTS A LOT LESS THAN EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO DO TO HAVE THE SUSPENSION AND EVERYTHING TO SUPPORT THE CRANE.
SO RATHER THAN REPLACE A MORE EXPENSIVE VEHICLE, WHAT THEY CAME UP WITH WAS LET'S BUY BASICALLY A STANDARD TRUCK WITH TOOLBOXES ON THE BACK THAT THE UTILITY GUYS WILL USE FOR THEIR DAY TO DAY WORK.
AND THEN THE CRANE WOULD GO INTO FLEET, WHICH THE FLEET GUYS CAN USE IT TO, PULLING ENGINE BLOCKS, DOING THINGS LIKE THAT, PICKING UP HEAVY STUFF IN AND AROUND MAINTENANCE.
BUT IT WOULD BE AVAILABLE WHENEVER IT NEEDS TO GO OUT TO SUPPORT THE SEWER ACTIVITY.
SO THAT WAS KIND OF THE IDEA BEHIND IT. SO RATHER THAN REPLACING A $200,000 VEHICLE, WE WOULD JUST WE WOULD SPEND ABOUT $80,000 ON A REGULAR PICKUP TRUCK TOOLS. SO I ALSO HAD QUESTIONS SO I MIGHT APPRECIATE JOINING IN THAT.
SURE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'D CALL IT A TOUR. TOUR.
OR GETTING ALSO THE LIST OF VEHICLES, BECAUSE I DID.
AND I COULDN'T FIND I THINK THIS IS 712 WE'RE LOOKING AT.
I COULDN'T FIND ONE YEAR WHERE THIS WAS EVEN ON THE CIP.
I'M IN SUPPORT AS WELL, JUST BECAUSE I HAVE QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE.
IF WE WERE TO TABLE THAT, DOES THAT HINDER US IN ANY WAY? IS IT NEEDED IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS OR. NO, OTHER THAN JUST GETTING THE ORDERS IN AND YOU KNOW, GETTING THE VEHICLES. AND THE BIDS THAT WE HAVE WOULD STILL BE? THE BIDS, THE QUOTES WE HAVE WILL STILL BE GOOD.
OKAY. IS THERE A REASON WE'RE NOT USING OR EVEN LOOKING AT USED VEHICLES AT THIS POINT? I KNOW YOU GUYS LIKE TO BUY NEW ONES, BUT I'M JUST WONDERING.
SO I THINK SQUAD CARS. I'M NOT, NO, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT THING.
I MEAN, THOSE ARE DIFFERENT VEHICLES USED FOR DIFFERENT, IN A DIFFERENT MANNER.
HENCE WHY THEY GET SO MANY MILES ON THEM. SO NO, WE DON'T WE DON'T USUALLY DO USE FOR THEM.
SO, LIKE THE VEHICLE THAT THE ADMIN STAFF USES, THOSE ARE ALL RECYCLED SQUAD CARS FROM THE EXPLORERS, AND THEY'RE ALL RECYCLED PATROL VEHICLES. SO WE TEND TO TAKE A ONCE, ONCE THE VEHICLES NO LONGER FIT FOR PURPOSE FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO USE ON ACTIVE SERVICE, AND WE LOOK TO REPURPOSE THOSE.
SEE IF WE CAN GET 4 OR 5 MORE YEARS OUT OF THEM.
SO, YES, THERE'S SOME OF THAT SOMETIMES WITH SOME OF THE CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT TOO.
BUT FOR SOME OF THE PRIME PIECES OF EQUIPMENT, NO, WE DON'T GET USED BECAUSE WE NEED TO GET THE USE OUT OF THE VEHICLE, THEY NEED TO BE RELIABLE, FOR THOSE WE DON'T.
OKAY. ANY OBJECTION TO TABLING THAT THAT RESOLUTION UNTIL OUR NEXT MEETING? YEAH. THAT'S FINE. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'LL DO THAT AND CONSIDER THAT AT OUR NEXT MEETING.
THANK YOU. OKAY. SO I THINK NEXT WOULD BE THE RESOLUTION OR THE AGENDA ITEM THAT YOU ADDED, MISS BENSON. YES.
YOU KNOW, THIS WAS JUST. I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TONIGHT TO HEAR FROM STAFF.
ABOUT. WE'VE WE'VE HEARD I'VE RECEIVED CALLS AND EMAILS AND WE HEARD AGAIN COMMENTS TONIGHT, WHICH I DO APPRECIATE HEARING FROM OUR COMMUNITY WHO ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE ACTIVITY GOING ON.
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AN IDEA THAT WAS PUT FORTH TONIGHT. MAYBE THERE ARE OTHERS AND JUST GETTING OUR ARMS AROUND THIS A BIT AND HAVING A DISCUSSION.SO IF THERE'S AN UPDATE, I'D LOVE TO HEAR ONE FROM THE CHIEF.
SURE, I THINK THE CHIEF IS READY TO TALK ABOUT POLICING ACTIVITIES, AND IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, WE CAN TAKE IT FROM THERE. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.
SO YES, THESE LAST FEW WEEKS HAVE BEEN JUST A TREMENDOUS STRAIN ON OUR COMMUNITY, ON ALL LAW ENFORCEMENT AND JUST OUR STATE, COUNTRY IN GENERAL. I JUST WANTED TO GIVE A LITTLE UPDATE AS TO WHAT WE'VE BEEN PARTICIPATING, BECAUSE THERE'S LOTS OF DIFFERENT THINGS GOING ON. SO JUST AS AN UPDATE, WE HAVE NOT SENT ANY RESOURCES DOWN TO MINNEAPOLIS AS TO DATE, JUST SIMPLY BECAUSE WE NEED TO KEEP OUR RESOURCES CLOSE TO HOME.
TWICE THEY'VE BEEN ACTIVATED. AND AS RECENTLY AS THE BEGINNING OF THIS MEETING, THEY WERE ACTIVATED ONCE AGAIN TO GO HELP WITH A PROTEST AT A HOTEL UP IN MAPLE GROVE THAT HAD SOME VIOLENCE AND STUFF HAPPENING. SO THEY DID MOBILIZE OUR MOBILE FIELD FORCE, WHICH WE DO HAVE AN OFFICER ON THAT.
SO HE IS IN ROUTE TO MAPLE GROVE TO ASSIST WITH THAT.
WE WORK HAND IN HAND WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND WITH SHERIFF WITT AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS, WE ARE SUPPLYING RESOURCES BECAUSE WATER PATROL IS OUT IN OUR AREA.
SO WE'VE HAD CONTACT WITH HENNEPIN COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND THEIR OFFICE SAYING, YOU KNOW, WE ARE A RESOURCE, THAT WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF RESOURCES, BUT WE'RE MORE THAN WILLING TO HELP YOU IN OUR OWN AGENCIES.
PLUS, WE STILL HAVE OUR OWN CALLS FOR SERVICE THAT EVEN IF SOMETHING WOULD HAPPEN THE MOST, WE COULD PROBABLY SEND AT A GIVEN TIME WITH OUR ON DUTY RESOURCES IS ONE, BECAUSE WE NEED TO KEEP OUR PEOPLE CLOSE TO HOME, STILL RESPONDING TO MEDICAL EMERGENCIES IN AND AROUND OUR AREA.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE'VE ALSO HAD SEVERAL PHONE CALLS.
YOU KNOW, WEEKS AGO, AS THE GENTLEMAN AND AUDIENCE MEMBERS STATED, YOU KNOW, THERE'S FEARS, CONCERNS FROM BUSINESSES, FROM FAMILIES, FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS.
WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH SCHOOL OFFICIALS AS TO HOW THEY OPERATE.
WE'VE HAD I'VE HAD PERSONAL CALLS TO OUR OFFICE IN RELATION TO BUSINESSES.
ARE THEY GOING TO BE A TARGET? SO WE WORKED WITH THEM, GAVE THEM EXAMPLES OF WHAT TO DO.
YOU WANT THEM OUT OF THERE. IF YOU DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE IN GOING, CALL US.
WE'LL COME THERE, HAVE THAT CONVERSATION, ADVISE THEM THAT THEY'RE NOT WANTED IN THAT PARKING LOT, AND ASK THEM AND GIVE THEM OTHER AREAS THAT IF YOU HAVE TO, THIS IS WHERE YOU MAY NEED TO GO INSTEAD.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE HAVE NOT HAD AND OUR DEPARTMENT HAS NOT RECEIVED TO DATE, HAS NOT RECEIVED ANY CALLS REFERENCE TO ICE OR ANY OTHER IMMIGRATION INDIVIDUALS IN OUR AREA. THEY HAVE BEEN SEEN DRIVING THROUGH DIFFERENT THINGS, BUT WE'VE NOT GOTTEN ANY PHONE CALLS AS TO ANY ACTIONS THAT THEY'VE TAKEN THAT THEY'VE SEEN UNFIT FROM ANY OF OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT HAVE BEEN CALLED IN.
SO THAT IS SOME COMFORT. IT'S NOT MUCH FOR OUR FAMILIES AND RESIDENTS THAT ARE STILL LIVING IN FEAR OR BUSINESSES THAT ARE CLOSED, BUT WE ARE CONTINUING TO WORK WITH THOSE AGENCIES, THOSE BUSINESSES, THOSE PARTNERS.
AND THERE AGAIN, IF INDIVIDUAL RESIDENTS WANT TO CALL AND HAVE INFORMATION.
WE FEEL I'VE HAD MORE, I THINK LUCK IN EXPLAINING THINGS ONE ON ONE VERSUS SENDING OUT, BECAUSE IT'S SO INDIVIDUALLY AND SPECIFIC TO THEIR ASSETS AND THEIR QUESTIONS. WITH THAT BEING SAID TO, WE'VE HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS WITH ALL OF OUR PARTNERS AT THE STATE LOCAL LEVEL, ESPECIALLY SINCE THE EVENTS THAT OCCURRED ON SATURDAY.
SATURDAY WE HAD FOUR MEETINGS WITH HENNEPIN CHIEFS AS WELL AS STATEWIDE CHIEFS.
LAST WEEK, WE HAD A CONFERENCE CALL WITH CHIEFS AND OTHER OFFICIALS, WITH THE HENNEPIN COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WITH MARY MORIARTY, JUST TO COME UP AND WALK THROUGH THINGS. THAT IS, IF WE HAVE CONTACT, ICE IS OUT HERE.
WHAT CAN WE DO WITH OTHER IMMIGRATION IF THEY FEEL THAT THEY'RE USING TACTICS BEYOND WHAT WE WOULD NORMALLY SEE OR USE? SO WE WALKED THROUGH SCENARIOS OF THAT. BUT THE HARDEST PART IS WE DON'T HAVE A GAME GAME PLAN.
WE DON'T HAVE A GAME BOOK BECAUSE MOST OF THIS STUFF IS WE HAVEN'T SEEN BEFORE.
THE ONE POSITIVE NOTE, IF I CAN SAY THAT, IS THAT WE'VE MADE STRIDES WITH HOPEFULLY TONING DOWN AND TURNING DOWN THE LEVEL AND PARTICIPATION FROM IMMIGRATION.
THERE ARE SOME CONVERSATIONS TONIGHT, JUST BEFORE I CAME IN, THAT SOME OF THE IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS MAY BE LEAVING TOMORROW, AS SOON AS TOMORROW. SO WE'RE HOPEFUL BECAUSE I THINK THAT WAS OUR MAIN MESSAGE FROM AT A STATE LEVEL, IS THAT WE CAN'T SUSTAIN WHAT'S GOING ON IN OUR STATE OR EVEN IN OUR LOCAL COMMUNITIES.
IT'S PUTTING TOO MUCH OF A PRESSURE TO DO THIS.
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WE CAN'T SUSTAIN. SO HOW DO WE TONE THIS DOWN? HOW DO WE STOP AND JUST BACKTRACK THIS GIVE EVERYBODY SORT OF A EASY WAY OUT SAVING FACE.THAT'S WHAT WE DO AS POLICE OFFICERS. SO WE GO TO A SITUATION AND TRY TO RESOLVE A SITUATION, BUT ALSO HAVE EVERYBODY WALK AWAY FEELING THAT THEY WON IN SOME INSTANCES.
SO THAT'S WHERE I THINK THE SENSITIVITY IS TRYING TO BALANCE BOTH SIDES, SHOWING THAT THERE WASN'T A WINNER, THERE WASN'T A LOSER BECAUSE LET'S BE HONEST, I THINK WE'RE ALL LOSING THIS AS COMMUNITY MEMBERS, AS RESIDENTS, AS PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY. WE'RE NOT WINNING.
SO I THINK THAT WAS THE MESSAGE IS, HOW CAN WE DO THAT? BUT LIKE I SAID, WE'VE NOT SEEN THE ACTIVITIES IN AND AROUND OUR COMMUNITIES, BUT WE ARE PREPARED.
IF THEY DO COME HERE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T. WE WILL NOT ENFORCE IMMIGRATION STATUS.
HOWEVER, WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN GET THEM IN AND OUT OF OUR AREA IF THEY NEED TO BE HERE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE, DOING THE LEAST AMOUNT OF DAMAGE. BECAUSE THERE AGAIN, THIS IS OUR COMMUNITY.
QUESTIONS? THANK YOU ABOUT THAT. I DON'T MEAN TO TURN MY BACK TO YOU.
I GUESS YOU KNOW, I HAVE ONE WHILE SHE'S LOOKING.
LOOK THAT UP. I KNOW WE PUT OUT A STATEMENT LAST WEEK.
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT DID, COMMENT ON. CITY DID.
CITY DID, YEAH. ON WHAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WAS, WAS DOING.
I KNOW WE HAD A LOT OF TRAFFIC ON OUR SOCIAL MEDIA SITES ABOUT THAT.
AND MAYBE RACHEL HERE. THE BEST PERSON TO COMMENT ON THAT.
IT'S AN ISSUE THAT REALLY GETS PEOPLE RILED UP ON BOTH SIDES OF I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE ARE BOTH SIDES OF AN ISSUE LIKE THAT, BUT THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT VIEW IT AS A BOTH SIDES OR ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER.
MAYBE COMMENT ON WHAT KIND OF FEEDBACK WE GOT LAST WEEK.
DO YOU MIND? FOR THOSE WHO ARE UNFAMILIAR WITH THE, PUT OUT A STATEMENT FROM THE CITY.
CAN YOU COME UP TO THE MIC? THANK YOU. SORRY.
SO FOR THOSE WHO ARE UNFAMILIAR WITH THE POST OR DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO SEE IT ON SOCIAL MEDIA, IT WAS A STATEMENT FROM THE CITY THAT KIND OF EXPLAINED WHAT THE ORONO POLICE OFFICERS DO AND WHAT THEY DON'T DO, HOW THEY DON'T ASK FOR IMMIGRATION PAPERWORK.
THEY ARE HERE TO SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY AND JUST KIND OF A WAY TO WE KNOW THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND CONCERN, AND WE WANTED TO SHOW SOME SUPPORT TO OUR COMMUNITY.
IN RESPONSE, WE GOT 95 COMMENTS, NINE SHARES AND A BOATLOAD OF THUMBS UP, SMILEY FACES, LAUGHTER, ALL THOSE THINGS. AND THE RESULTS OF THOSE 95 COMMENTS WERE VERY MIXED.
THIS IS A VERY CHARGED, POLARIZING TOPIC THAT PEOPLE, I THINK, TAKE VERY SERIOUSLY, AND THEY AREN'T ALWAYS WILLING TO BE FLEXIBLE WITH THEIR NEIGHBOR.
SOME OF THE THINGS THAT CAME OUT THERE, THERE'S A THERE'S A LOT OF DISCUSSION AND COMMENTS.
SOME OF THEM WERE NOT KIND COMMENTS. BUT ONE THING TO REMEMBER AS A GOVERNMENT SOCIAL MEDIA SITE, WE HAVE THE FIRST AMENDMENT, AND WE DON'T TAKE THOSE DOWN JUST BECAUSE WE DON'T LIKE THEM.
THEIR THOUGHTS ARE THERE FOR THE COMMUNITY. AND WE HAVE, WE HAD, YOU KNOW, EXCHANGES BACK AND FORTH.
IT ALLOWED OTHER PEOPLE TO EXPRESS THEIR VIEWS.
AND FROM A SOCIAL MEDIA STANDPOINT, AS SOMEBODY WHO CHECKS THE ANALYTICS, IT BROUGHT CLOSE TO, I THINK LAST I CHECKED, 27 NEW FOLLOWERS, WHICH DOESN'T SEEM LIKE A LOT, BUT THAT IS A SERIOUS JUMP FOR 24, 48 HOURS. SO THAT'S NEW PEOPLE WHO NOW HAVE ACCESS TO OUR INFORMATION, AND THE NEXT TIME WE PUT SOMETHING OUT, THEY WILL BE ABLE TO GET THAT FIRSTHAND VERSUS SEEING IT THROUGH THE GRAPEVINE OF SOMEBODY ELSE'S SHARE, SOMEBODY ELSE'S LIKE US. WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE POLICE AND THE CITY TO PUT OUT INFORMATION TO HELP JUST COMMUNICATE, WHICH IS ALWAYS OUR GOAL, IS TO COMMUNICATE WITH EVERYBODY AND TO GET THAT FEEDBACK BACK AS A PULSE CHECK.
AND I'M WONDERING IF STAFF IS RESPONDING TO SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THAT RESIDENTS HAVE ABOUT PROTOCOL.
THERE WAS ONE ON THERE ABOUT SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF IF I'M UNSURE IF A VEHICLE BEHIND ME IS OKAY TO BE PULLING ME OVER WHATNOT, CAN I DRIVE TO THE ORONO POLICE STATION? IS THAT AN APPROPRIATE PROTOCOL?
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I DON'T KNOW IF STAFF ANSWERS THOSE TYPES OF QUESTIONS OR ENGAGES IN THAT WAY WITH SPECIFICS OR NOT.WE'RE NOT HERE TO HAVE THAT KIND OF DISCOURSE.
BUT IF THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO EDUCATE ON WHAT THE ORONO PD DOES OR HOW TO KEEP THEMSELVES SAFE, OR WHAT TO DO IN THOSE SITUATIONS, WE TRY TO LOOK FOR THOSE OPPORTUNITIES.
IS THAT A DAILY EXCHANGE OR? I MONITOR IT OFTEN.
WE'RE ONLY HERE FOR COMMUNICATION IN A POSITIVE MANNER, A RESPECTFUL WAY, AND TO EDUCATE.
SO WHILE I MAY KNOW AND GO THROUGH AND SEE COMMENTS, I USUALLY DON'T ENTER THE CONVERSATION UNLESS ONE OF US FEELS THAT THAT IS AN OPPORTUNITY THAT WE CAN USE TO EDUCATE.
SO WE'RE VERY SELECTIVE IN WHAT WE TRY TO COMMUNICATE.
THE LAST THING WE WANT TO DO IS START SOMETHING THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE HERE TO DO.
SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO TAKE AT THIS POINT, INSTEAD OF ENGAGING, IF YOU HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, CALL US. OKAY. BECAUSE WE WON'T ENGAGE OVER THE INTERNET BECAUSE YOU MAY NOT BE.
WE DON'T WANT TO GIVE YOU WRONG INFORMATION IF YOU'RE FROM A DIFFERENT STATE AND ALSO YOU PUT SOMETHING. WHAT IF I'M DOING THIS? WHAT CAN I DO? IT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT WE PROVIDE A SERVICE FOR, BUT ANOTHER AGENCY WON'T.
SO THAT'S WHERE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS, WE WON'T SORT OF DEBATE OR ANSWER QUESTIONS ON FACEBOOK, BUT IF YOU DO HAVE QUESTIONS, REACH OUT TO YOUR LOCAL AGENCY, HAVE THAT CONCERN ADDRESSED.
I THINK THAT'S WHEN WE HAD SOME IMPERSONATORS AND WHATNOT.
IF YOU FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE YOU KNOW, YOU CAN TURN YOUR FLASHES ON.
DON'T EXCEED THE SPEED LIMIT SO THAT YOUR LOOKS LIKE IT'S A PURSUIT, YOU KNOW UNDERSTAND, CALL 911 FROM YOUR PHONE THROUGH OUR DISPATCH.
OKAY. THAT'S VERY HELPFUL. THANK YOU. I GUESS IF MY INTEREST IS IN DOING WHAT WE'RE HERE TO DO, WHICH IS PROVIDE PUBLIC SAFETY.
AND SO ON THAT NOTE, I GUESS WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR IN TERMS OF A DISCUSSION OR MORE FEEDBACK FROM THE CHIEF IS WHAT MORE, IF ANYTHING, CAN WE BE DOING AS A CITY, AS A COUNCIL, IN ORDER TO ENSURE THAT OUR RESIDENTS DO FEEL SAFE WITHIN OUR CITY? THAT'S A QUESTION I WOULD HAVE FOR YOU. AND THAT IS A DIFFICULT QUESTION TO ANSWER.
I MEAN, IN ALL THE CONVERSATIONS AND THE DIFFERENT MEETINGS STATEWIDE, LIKE TODAY, THERE WAS OVER 220 PEOPLE AND ALL OF THOSE WERE SHERIFFS, CHIEFS, COLONEL OF THE STATE PATROL. AND THOSE SOME OF THOSE SAME QUESTIONS COME UP THROUGHOUT DIFFERENT MEETINGS IS WHAT CAN WE DO? THERE'S NOT A LOT. I MEAN, THE FEDERAL AGENCIES COME IN, THEY HAVE THEIR ORDERS.
THEY HAVE THIS IT'S COMING FROM WASHINGTON. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE. WE'RE TRYING TO WORK AND SAY, HEY, WE CAN HELP YOU. IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR AN INDIVIDUAL, HERE IS THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE. WE'RE SPECIFICALLY LOOKING FOR THIS PERSON. YOU KNOW, SORT OF WORK WITH US, WE CAN SAY YES, MAYBE THEY HAVEN'T LIVED AT THAT ADDRESS.
HOWEVER, MAYBE THEY DON'T EVEN LIVE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
SO INSTEAD OF COMING TO OUR COMMUNITY, STAYING HERE FOR HOURS, LOOKING, SEARCHING IN THOSE SITUATIONS, IF YOU HAVE THE PROPER DOCUMENTATION, LET US KNOW.
WE CAN MAKE THIS MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE EASY ON OUR COMMUNITY AS LONG AS YOU HAVE THE PAPERWORK.
BUT WE DON'T KNOW. THIS IS, THIS PLAYBOOK, EVEN WHEN WE'RE TALKING TO, YOU KNOW, THE HENNEPIN COUNTY ATTORNEY, THERE'S THEIR STAFF HAS BEEN SPENDING DAYS TRYING TO GET CAUGHT UP ON FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS AND STUFF.
NOW, PUT THAT DOWN TO A LINE OFFICER WHEN WE'RE STILL RESPONDING TO CALLS.
HOW DO WE EDUCATE THEM ON FEDERAL STUFF? THIS IS ALL NEW.
THIS IS STUFF THAT WE HAVEN'T SEEN BEFORE. AND THERE AGAIN, THE LEAGUE OF MINNESOTA CITIES, EVEN, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE BROUGHT UP ABOUT SANCTUARY CITIES ABOUT DIFFERENT THINGS.
AND THAT'S HARD BECAUSE WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? YOU KNOW, IF THE FEDERAL AGENCIES COME IN HERE, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN TO BE A SANCTUARY CITY? AND THERE'S VERY FEW THAT DO.
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AND THEN IT, YOU KNOW, THEN IF THEY COME IN HERE, WE'RE NOT GOING TO ARREST YOU.CAN'T I ASK YOU, PLEASE DON'T PUT US IN A POSITION WHERE NOW WE'RE ARRESTING OR TRYING TO ARREST A FEDERAL AGENT, BECAUSE WE EVEN BROUGHT THAT UP TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEYS. HOW DO YOU DO THAT? DO WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY NOW? WE'RE MAKING THE MEDIA FOR SOMETHING THAT IS UNPRECEDENTED.
BECAUSE DO WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO ARREST A FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY THAT'S COMING IN WITH DOCUMENTS, WITH AN ORDER, WHETHER IT BE ADMINISTRATIVE OR JUDICIAL, WE DON'T KNOW.
WE'VE NEVER SEEN SOME OF THIS PAPERWORK BEFORE.
AND NOW WE HAVE TO RELY ON AN OFFICER THAT MAYBE HAS NEVER DONE THIS, TRYING TO WHO DO YOU EVEN CALL AT? YOU KNOW, 8:00 AT NIGHT, 6:00 IN THE MORNING WHEN SOME OF THIS STUFF IS HAPPENING.
SO THIS IS ALL UNCHARTERED TERRITORY THAT WE'RE TRYING TO WORK THROUGH AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
LUCKILY THERE AGAIN, WE CAN'T DO IT OURSELVES.
WHAT CAN WE DO? SO THAT'S WHY I REALLY I MEAN, WE'RE REALLY RELYING.
THIS IS HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO BUILD THOSE RELATIONSHIPS WITH OUR NEIGHBORING AGENCIES, WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT THAT WE HAVE, WHICH IS VITAL TO US. AND THAT'S WHERE IF I HAVE A QUESTION OR CONCERN, I DON'T I DON'T KNOW MOST OF THE STUFF I'M CALLING THE COUNTY.
YEAH. SO WHEN YOU ASK, YOU KNOW, WHAT CAN WE DO? I DON'T KNOW, I MEAN I'M HOPING THAT WITH IF THE INFORMATION IS TRUE THAT'S COMING OUT TONIGHT THAT HOPEFULLY SOME OF THESE THIS SITUATION WILL YOU KNOW THE THEY'LL BE WRAPPING IT DOWN SO TO SPEAK, DIALING IT DOWN THAT WE CAN GET BACK ON TRACK AND OUR COMMUNITY CAN START HEALING.
I JUST DON'T KNOW. WHAT WAS THE ANSWER, BY THE WAY, WHEN YOU ASKED THE MARY MORIARTY, IF YOU COULD. I THINK SHE'S, YES, YOU CAN. BUT THERE AGAIN, IT PUTS US IN A POSITION.
AND FOR WHAT THOUGH, WE'RE TALKING, YOU KNOW, IT RANGED FROM, OKAY, IF WE SEE SOMETHING WITH THE USE OF FORCE, IF THEY'RE EXCESSIVE OR WE FEEL THAT THEY'RE DOING SOMETHING WRONG, WELL, HOLD IT THERE AGAIN.
THERE'S TWO OFFICERS. SIX. IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO GET INTO? WHAT WE SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT WE, I'M NOT WEARING ONE TONIGHT, BUT WE ALWAYS OUR OFFICERS ARE WEARING BODY CAMERAS.
AND OTHERWISE WE'LL DOCUMENT AND WE'LL TAKE THAT INFORMATION AND BRING IT TO HIGHER LEVELS.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE HEARING AND AGAIN, THERE WAS A PROPOSAL TONIGHT FOR MORE, I GUESS I'D SAY ACTION ON THE CITY, PART OF THE CITY WITH REGARD TO PUBLIC SPACES OR PARKING LOTS, THAT TYPE OF THING. CAN YOU JUST SPEAK ABOUT THIS? I'M JUST SEEING THIS NOW, THE MINNESOTA THE CHIEF'S LETTER, BECAUSE I THINK WHAT MAYBE SOME RESIDENTS ARE LOOKING FOR IS MORE OF A COHESIVE ACTION. AND IT SOUNDS LIKE SOME OF THOSE THINGS HAVE ALREADY BEEN HAPPENING WITH THE CHIEFS.
YEAH. AND A LOT OF THAT. AGAIN, WHAT YOU DO IN PARKS, WE PARKS.
WE DON'T HAVE CONTROL. WE ENFORCE WHAT'S CURRENTLY ON THE BOOKS. YEAH.
THE HARDEST PART IS, AGAIN, WHAT IS PUBLIC SPACE? WHAT IS, YOU KNOW, CAN THEY BE IF THEY'RE ON THE SIDE, SIDE OF THE ROAD? YOU KNOW, THERE'S THREE VEHICLES AND WE CAN ASSUME MAYBE THEY'RE IMMIGRATION, BORDER PATROL.
IT'S A PUBLIC STREET. DO WE SAY MOVE ON? WELL, EVERYBODY IN THE PUBLIC HAS THAT RIGHT.
AND NOW WE'RE TAKING THAT ASSUMING THAT IT COULD BE SOME ILLEGAL OR SOME OPERATION.
AND THAT'S WHERE IT'S VERY DELICATE. AND LIKE I SAID, WE HAVEN'T SEEN THIS IN OUR COMMUNITY.
AND IF IT'S GOING TO BE STARTING TO DIAL DOWN, HOPEFULLY WE DON'T.
SO I'M HOPING THAT WE'RE PAST THAT HIGHER LEVEL.
SO BUT THERE AGAIN, WHATEVER THE COUNCIL I'M NOT HERE TO DISAGREE WITH YOU BUT IT'S DIFFICULT.
BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU, YOU KNOW AT WHAT LEVEL. AND THAT'S, I THINK, THE WORD OF CAUTION THAT CAME FROM A LOT OF THIS IS BECAUSE WE NOT, WE MAY NOT. IF YOU PASS SOMETHING, WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO HAVE SOME TEETH TO ENFORCE IT.
SO THEN WHAT GOOD IS ENFORCING SAYING THAT YOU CAN'T USE OUR, YOU KNOW, OUR PUBLIC ROADS TO BE HERE IF WE CREATE BUFFER ZONES, YOU CAN'T COME INTO OUR COMMUNITY. WELL WE DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THEY'RE IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND NOW HOW DO WE EVEN BEGIN TO LOOK TO SAY STOP AND PLEASE MOVE ON.
RIGHT, BUT THE MPCA HAS PUT OUT, MCPA HAS PUT OUT A STATEMENT.
CORRECT. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I WAS INTERESTED IN HEARING A LITTLE BIT MORE CONTEXT TO.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN? WHAT ABOUT THE STATEMENT? YES.
AND BASICALLY IT WAS JUST A BROAD STATEMENT SAYING WE AT THIS LEVEL, WE HAVE THE CONNECTIONS, WE HAVE THE ABILITY. WE'RE TRYING TO WORK. WE'RE MAKING CONNECTIONS WITH OUR LEGISLATIVE PARTNERS IN THIS, OR LEGISLATORS TO TRY TO CREATE WHERE WE CAN DIAL THIS DOWN TO GET OUR MESSAGE ACROSS BECAUSE WE CAN'T GO TO OUR LOCAL.
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I'M SORRY IF I CAME TO YOU AND SAY, I WANT YOUR HELP, CAN YOU CONTACT, YOU KNOW, PRESIDENT TRUMP ON THE PHONE? YOU DON'T HAVE HIM ON SPEED DIAL. NEITHER DO I THINK I MAY.NOW WE NEED THOSE RESOURCES. AND IT WAS VERY DELICATE AS HOW.
BECAUSE HE'S NOT GOING TO TAKE 50 PHONE CALLS, 100 PHONE CALLS.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT THAT LETTER SORT OF SAID. JUST GAVE AN UPDATE GOING, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTAND TO OUR COMMUNITY, UNDERSTAND THIS IS THE ANXIETY. EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING THROUGH, IT'S FELT NOT JUST IN OUR COMMUNITY BUT STATEWIDE.
AND WE ARE WORKING AS A GROUP TO HAVE A COMMON MESSAGE TO BRING IT TO OUR HIGHER ENTITIES AND SAY, YOU NEED TO COME. WE NEED TO HAVE SOME SORT OF ACTION TO SORT OF TONE THIS DOWN, BECAUSE WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW IS NOT GOOD FOR OUR COMMUNITIES.
LOOK AT HOW THIS IS IMPACTING. WE SHOULDN'T BE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION.
AND IT'S SAD THAT WE ARE BECAUSE THAT OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS FEEL THIS WAY.
AND OUR SCHOOL OFFICIALS BECAUSE KIDS AREN'T COMING. WE HAVE RESTAURANTS THAT ARE CLOSED DOWN. WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT WORK ON FARMS THAT DON'T LEAVE THE FARM SITES BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO GO TO THE GROCERY STORE IN FEAR OF BEING PICKED UP.
AND REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THEY HAVE LEGAL STATUS OR NOT, NO ONE IN THOSE SITUATIONS OR VERY FEW IN THOSE SITUATIONS ARE GOING OUT, WHICH IS SAD. THAT'S VERY HELPFUL, THANK YOU.
I THINK AT LEAST MY PERSPECTIVE ON THIS IS THAT DOING WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING AND THIS NEW STATEMENT CAME OUT TODAY, OR THIS JOINT STATEMENT TO DEMONSTRATE TO OUR PUBLIC THAT WE ARE VERY CONCERNED AND THINKING ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY EVERY DAY, BUT THAT THERE'S, AS YOU SAY, THERE CAN BE A REAL UNFORESEEN SIDE TO PASSING MORE RESTRICTIONS THAT THEN PUT OUR OFFICERS IN A IN A PARTICULAR POSITION OF HAVING TO POTENTIALLY ENFORCE SOMETHING THAT MAY NOT BE EASY TO DO.
THE COMMON MESSAGE IN A LOT OF THESE MEETINGS IS TRYING NOT TO ESCALATE IT, BECAUSE THERE AGAIN, THERE'S CERTAIN MEMBERS IN OUR COMMUNITY, CERTAIN MEMBERS POLITICAL MEMBERS THAT ARE THEIR WORDS ARE NOT HELPING THINGS.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING. IT'S VERY SENSITIVE MATTER.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ALMOST TELLING. TAKE A PAUSE.
LET THE SORT OF SYSTEM AND THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GAINING GROUND AND WE CAN'T GIVE YOU ALL THE INFORMATION BECAUSE IT'S HAPPENING SO QUICK AND SOMETIMES, I MEAN, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT THEY WERE HAVING A MEETING UNTIL, YOU KNOW, THIS MORNING SAYING, HEY, WE JUST WE GOT THIS INFORMATION AND I THINK WE'RE GETTING THE MESSAGE ACROSS. AND NOW THERE'S GOING TO BE A PHONE CALL BETWEEN THE PRESIDENT AND THE GOVERNOR, WHICH WAS EXCITING NEWS FOR US, GOING, HEY, IF YOU GET TWO PEOPLE TO THE TABLE AND TALKING, IT'S HOPEFULLY THERE'S A SOLUTION IN SIGHT, SO. MY THOUGHT IS THAT WE'LL TRY TO CONTINUE TO DO AND JUST COMMIT TO WHAT WE'VE ALREADY BEEN DOING, WHICH IS PUTTING OUT INFORMATION AS IT COMES TO US, BECAUSE I THINK WHAT'S VERY NERVE WRACKING, I IMAGINE. AND I FEEL THE SAME. IS IS NOT KNOWING AND NOT FEELING LIKE OUR CITY IS MAYBE KEEPING UP WITH COMMUNICATIONS.
BUT FROM EVERYTHING I SEE, WE'RE DOING WHAT WE CAN.
HARDEST PART IS TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH THE SOCIAL MEDIA HOW FAST OKAY IS THERE.
AND THERE AGAIN, I LOVE, RACHEL DOES A FANTASTIC JOB BY THE WAY, BUT SHE'S NOT 24 SEVEN AND NEITHER.
AND THAT, I THINK IS THE HARDEST PART, IS THAT WHEN INFORMATION PEOPLE WANT INFORMATION IMMEDIATELY, AND EVEN OUR INFORMATION IS USUALLY A DAY BEHIND.
AND, YOU KNOW, YOU TAKE THIS FIVE, SIX YEARS AGO, WE ALWAYS TOOK LIKE A WEEK PROBABLY TO GET INFORMATION OUT. NOW, IF YOU'RE NOT WITHIN MINUTES OF IT BEING RELEASED, WHICH WE JUST CAN'T DO SOMETIMES BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY OUT THERE, WELL THEN HOW DO YOU TRY TO RECAPTURE THAT, THAT MOMENT? SO YEAH. QUESTION BACK THERE. YES, SIR.
OKAY. BUT WHEN YOU SAY SOCIAL MEDIA TO THE AVERAGE PERSON OF THE AVERAGE AGE IN THE CITY OF ORONO, YOU HAVEN'T TOLD THEM MUCH. OKAY. AND I KNOW THAT'S A CHALLENGE YOU CAN'T FIX TONIGHT OR TOMORROW.
I REALLY DO. BUT THERE'S A MISSING PIECE BECAUSE THE FEDERAL [INAUDIBLE] HERE ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THAT. YEAH. THEY ARE OF THAT ELIMINATION AND THEY'RE USING US.
WE HAVE TO BE A LITTLE. YOUR COMMENTS ARE TOTALLY APPROPRIATE.
OKAY, I HAVE A FAMILY OF LAWYERS THAT WOULD HAVE ME SHOT FOR SAYING THIS.
OKAY. WE GOT TO TAKE ANY MORE CHANCES BECAUSE THIS IS A COMPETITIVE SITUATION.
WE'RE DEALING WITH HERE, GUYS ON THE OTHER SIDE.
COMPUTER READY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OTHER QUESTIONS FOR CORREY OR COMMENTS FROM.
I GUESS TO THAT END, WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS EARLIER IN OUR WORK SESSION ABOUT EMAIL, PHONE CALL,
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DIFFERENT FORMS OF COMMUNICATION. I DON'T KNOW WHERE RACHEL WENT.OKAY. TO THAT END, THOUGH, I KNOW OUR CITY DOES HAVE AN EMAIL LISTSERVE, WHICH, IF PEOPLE ARE NOT ON IT THAT IS A VERY HELPFUL WAY TO GET INFORMATION PUSHED TO YOU IN YOUR EMAIL, WHICH I THINK REGARDLESS OF WHERE SOMEBODY MAY BE ON THE ONLINE CONTINUUM, EMAIL IS TYPICALLY SOMETHING THAT'S WIDELY USED.
AND I GUESS THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY ADD HERE, IS THAT IF OUR CITY CAN GENERATE MORE COMMUNICATION AROUND THE LISTSERVE WITH UPDATES OR WHATNOT, THAT MAY BE HELPFUL BECAUSE I AGREE, NOT EVERYONE'S ON FACEBOOK, INSTAGRAM, ETC. WHAT'S THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT? DO YOU THINK HAVING PEOPLE CALL CITY HALL AND GET THEIR NAME ON THE LIST FOR PEOPLE.
FRONT DESK. CITY HALL, AND OUR ADMIN FOLKS CAN HELP SOMEBODY GET ON WHATEVER LISTSERVE THEY LIKE.
RIGHT. I WILL SAY THAT MOST OF THE TIME WHEN WE DO THINGS LIKE THROW THINGS OUT OR PUSH THINGS ON FACEBOOK OR OUR OTHER PLATFORMS, THERE IS USUALLY A, AN EMAIL BLAST THAT GOES OUT WITH THAT SAME MESSAGE TO, AND RACHEL AND TEAM TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT EMAIL LISTSERVE BEST LINKS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL BASED ON INTERESTS.
SO SOME PEOPLE SIGN UP, THEY WANT ANYTHING THE CITY PUTS OUT.
SOME PEOPLE SIGN UP AND SAY, I ONLY WANT PUBLIC SAFETY THINGS.
SOME PEOPLE SIGN UP, I ONLY WANT UTILITY OUTAGES, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.
SO USING THE APPROPRIATE LISTSERVE. BUT USUALLY WHEN SOMETHING GOES OUT, THAT'S ANY KIND OF SIGNIFICANCE ON, SAY, FACEBOOK OR ON THE WEBSITE, IT ALSO GETS PUSHED ON THE ON THE PERTINENT EMAIL PUSH.
THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW, BECAUSE I DO THINK THIS THE MINNESOTA CHIEFS OF POLICE ASSOCIATION LETTER WOULD BE A GOOD ONE, IN MY OPINION, TO PUSH TO THE LISTSERVE. THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT JOINT STATEMENT.
YES, IT IS FACEBOOK, BUT NOT THE EMAIL LISTSERVE.
PUT IT ON THE LISTSERVEE. YEAH. OH. IT IS. OKAY.
YEAH. NO, YOU SAID IT IS ON THE LIST. OKAY. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S NOT.
IT SHOULD BE. I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS. YEAH. OKAY.
YEAH. I, AND I FULLY AGREE ABOUT EMAIL BEING USUALLY WIDELY USED, SO THAT THAT'S AN IMPORTANT ONE.
AND I THINK WE CAN MAYBE DO BETTER THERE ABOUT PUSHING THOSE LISTSERVE COMMUNICATIONS.
THANK YOU FOR THE COMMENT. YEAH. YEAH. PLEASE.
YEAH. IT'S THAT DARN BAD. YEAH. WELL IT'S NOT A, IT'S AN AWFUL SITUATION, FRANKLY, AND UNPRECEDENTED. AND HOPEFULLY IT'S SOMETHING WE NEVER AGAIN SEE IN OUR LIFETIMES.
AND HOPEFULLY IT ENDS SOON. THAT'S HOPEFUL THAT WE ARE HEARING THAT THAT DE-ESCALATION AND MOVING SOME OF THE ICE FOLKS AT LEAST AT LEAST SOME OUT. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT ENTIRELY.
BUT YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'D LIKE TO THINK OF OURSELVES AS BEING A BIT IN THE ORONO BUBBLE.
IT'S IMPACTING OUR CITIZENS AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WISH WE COULD DO MORE AS PUBLIC OFFICIALS.
BUT AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING TO DO WHAT WE CAN AND HOPEFULLY THE SITUATION IS DE-ESCALATING.
YES, SIR. I'M GOING TO VERIFY AND ADMIT THE FACT THAT MOST OF WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS OVER MY HEAD, TECHNOLOGICALLY AND FROM EVERYTHING THAT I'VE HEARD.
I REALLY APPRECIATE THE NEWSLETTER THAT COMES OUT.
AND IF THERE'S A WEBSITE OR SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD BE ON AND ARE NOT, IF YOU ANNOUNCED IN THAT NEWSLETTER, IF YOU WANT MORE INFORMATION AND HELP WITH THESE KIND OF TOPICS, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO INTO DETAIL.
PROTECT YOURSELF. SIGN UP IN A HEARTBEAT. YEAH.
YES. WE CATCH MISS CARTER ON THE WAY OUT. YEAH.
WELL, THANK YOU AND APPRECIATE ALL YOU'RE DOING.
CHIEF FARNIOK AND THE REST OF THE OPD, AND AGAIN, HOPEFULLY IT'S ON ITS WAY DOWN BECAUSE WE CAN'T
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LIVE LIKE THIS FOR VERY LONG. SO, THANK YOU. THANK YOU.ANYTHING ELSE ON THE TOPIC? NOT FOR ME. ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. YEAH. THANKS FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT.
YEAH. AND AGAIN, THERE ARE WAYS THAT WE CAN HELP THOSE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
I KNOW, OUR CHURCH AT TRINITY CHURCH IS COLLECTING, COLLECTING DONATED ITEMS AND MONEY TO HELP PEOPLE THAT CAN'T GET OUT FOR GROCERIES. AND I KNOW THE SCHOOL IS DOING THE SAME THING, SO PLEASE BE GENEROUS WITH US, WITH THOSE IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT ARE THAT ARE REACHING, HELPING HAND OUT.
SAINT GEORGE'S IS DOING A BIG. YEP. ALL RIGHT.
I THINK THE LAST THING ON OUR AGENDA IS THE LAKE MINNETONKA AREA LEGISLATIVE COALITION PROPOSAL.
AND WE LOOKED AT THAT LAST TIME TO GET SOME, SOME FEEDBACK.
I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT THERE ARE NINE COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE SIGNED UP TO JOINTLY HIRE A LOBBYIST.
THOSE ARE WAYZATA, WOODLAND, DEEPHAVEN, GREENWOOD, TONKA BAY, MOUND, SPRING PARK AND LONG LAKE.
I WOULD NOTE THAT MAYBE OTHER THAN MOUND, ALL OF THE COMMUNITIES ARE SMALLER THAN OURS BY THE MEASURES THAT WE WERE GOING TO BE SHARING COSTS, WE WOULD PROBABLY BE THE LARGEST PAYER IN THAT SYSTEM.
AND I KNOW YOU, ADAM. DO YOU HAVE THE MATERIALS FROM LAST TIME? YEP, I DID. I JUST KIND OF RECYCLED LAST COUNCIL ITEM.
GOOD. GOOD, YEAH. SO BASICALLY, IT'S BANDING TOGETHER WITH THESE OTHER COMMUNITIES TO HIRE A LOBBYIST THAT WOULD SPEAK ON BEHALF OF US AS LAKE MINNETONKA COMMUNITIES THAT SEEM TO PAY MORE THAN OUR FAIR SHARE OF PROPERTY TAXES AND GET LESS THAN OUR FAIR SHARE OF AMENITIES AND ITEMS FOR THOSE DOLLARS. SO THAT WOULD BE TRYING TO CHANGE THAT NARRATIVE A BIT.
THE NUMBER ONE GOAL OF THE HIRING LOBBYISTS THIS YEAR WOULD BE TO TRY TO BEAT BACK THIS THIS EFFORT THAT'S BEING MADE TO TAKE AWAY LOCAL CONTROL OF ZONING.
IT'S ALSO SOMETHING THAT THAT LEAGUE OF MINNESOTA CITIES IS FOCUSED ON.
BUT THEN A SECONDARY GOAL WOULD BE PROPERTY TAX REFORM AND ADVOCATING FOR MORE INVESTMENT OUT HERE FOR THE DOLLARS THAT WE'RE SPENDING.
SO ANYWAY ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS PROPOSED OR WAS, I GUESS I WENT TO A MEETING AND I WAS VOLUNTOLD THAT ORONO WOULD BE THE PERFECT PLACE TO HAVE THE ADMINISTRATIVE FUNCTION OF THIS, THAT WE WOULD BE THE ONES TO ENTER INTO A CONTRACT, AND FOR THAT, WE WOULD GET A BREAK ON THE AMOUNT THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO SPEND ON THE ON THE LOBBYIST.
AND I THINK THAT ALLOCATION PROPOSAL, I THINK THAT MIGHT HAVE THAT $9,000 A YEAR MAY HAVE INCLUDED OR INCLUDED A COUPLE OF OTHER CITIES. MINNETONKA.
THIS IS THE THE INFORMATION HERE IS STILL FROM THE LAST EMAIL THAT WE GOT FROM THAT GROUP.
SO. RIGHT. I THINK THAT INCLUDED MINNETONKA, I GUESS, IN ADDITION TO THE OTHER CITIES LISTED HERE, BUT DID NOT INCLUDE. NO, IT DID INCLUDE MOUND.
DID NOT INCLUDE TONKA BAY, I GUESS. SO YEAH, I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS.
SO HOW MANY CITIES, AND WHICH ARE THE CITIES THAT HAVE ALREADY FORMALLY SIGNED ARE AGREEING TO THIS? THAT'S WHAT I'M NOT QUITE. I WAS TOLD TODAY IT WAS OF THE CITIES THAT ARE LISTED THERE.
YES. DEEPHAVEN, WAYZATA, WOODLAND. NOT MINNETONKA, BUT GREENWOOD, SPRING PARK.
I DON'T BELIEVE MINNETONKA BEACH IS ACCEPTED YET, EITHER.
MOUND, LONG LAKE, TONKA BAY. I THINK IT'S THE LIST OF.
NINE OUT OF THE 14. YES, THAT HAVE SAID YES SO FAR.
ONE OF THE WAYS WE COULD APPROACH THIS, IF PEOPLE THINK THIS IS A GOOD IDEA, IS WE COULD SAY, YES, WE'LL PARTICIPATE, BUT NOT MORE THAN I THINK A LOT OF THE OTHER CITIES HAVE DONE THIS.
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WE WILL PARTICIPATE UP TO X NUMBER OF DOLLARS IN THIS COMING YEAR.THAT WOULD ASSUME THEN THAT ALL CITIES WOULD BE PARTICIPATING.
SO IF WE SAY NO, MINNETONKA SAYS NO AND TONKA BEACH SAYS NO, THEY'D HAVE TO GO BACK, I THINK.
AND WE HAVE TO REESTABLISH WHETHER THEY'RE WILLING TO GO UP HIGHER THAN WHAT THEY HAVE APPROVED.
AND IF WE SAY, YES, WE'RE DOING THE ADMINISTRATIVE OR IS THAT A SEPARATE? WELL, IT'S PART OF THIS, BUT YEAH, IT'S I THINK WE COULD, WE COULD SAY WE'RE DOING THIS UP TO A CERTAIN AMOUNT.
WE'RE NOT DOING THE ADMINISTRATIVE. WE COULD SAY WE'RE NOT DOING IT AT ALL.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE RECOMMENDATION, STAFF IS NOT EAGER TO TAKE ON THE ROLE.
YEAH, WE'LL DO WHAT WE'RE DIRECTED. BUT AT THIS TIME, IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE WOULD VOLUNTEER FOR.
I REMEMBER STAFF SAYING THAT AT THE LAST MEETING THAT IT WOULD BE A SIGNIFICANT, WHICH I THINK I'M JUST WITH EVERYTHING ELSE WE HAVE GOING ON THIS, THIS. I'LL SPEAK FOR MYSELF, MY OWN VOTE. I'M NOT, I'M GOING TO GO ALONG.
I HAVE THE SAME RESERVATIONS THAT WEREN'T REALLY ADDRESSED THE LAST TIME WE DISCUSSED THIS, WHICH IS I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS FIRM WAS CHOSEN, AND I ALSO DON'T KNOW HOW THESE CITIES HAVE ALREADY BEEN WORKING TO REFINE THE GOALS THAT WE ARE PUTTING FORTH TO THIS LOBBYIST. AND I'M JUST CONCERNED THAT THERE ARE 9 OR 10 CITIES WITH ONE PERSON AT THE LEGISLATURE WHO ALL THESE CITIES HAVE VERY DIFFERENT NEEDS POTENTIALLY.
THAT'S HOW I FEEL. OTHER THOUGHTS? YEAH. I UNDERSTAND WHAT COUNCILPERSON BENSON CONCERN ON THAT.
ONE OF THE THINGS BEING A TEAM PLAYER, BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, I THINK THOSE FIRST TWO CONCERNS THAT THEY TALKED ABOUT ARE REAL, RIGHT? WHAT ARE GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THESE INVESTMENTS THAT OUR TAXPAYERS ARE MAKING? AND WHAT CAN WE DO TO HELP THAT? BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, MORE AND MORE I THINK IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IS AND WE'RE SEEING IT IS AS PROPERTY VALUES DOWNTOWN MINNEAPOLIS COME DOWN, WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO. THEY'RE GOING TO PUSH OUT THOSE OUT TO WHERE THERE ARE NOT GOING TO CUT THEIR BUDGETS, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO CUT THEIR BUDGETS, AND THEY'RE GOING TO COME TO PLACES WHERE THEY KNOW THEY CAN GET THAT, SO. AND WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE FOR US, I DON'T KNOW. YEAH. AND HOW DO WE COME UP TO THAT? BUT THOSE ARE THOSE ARE REAL THINGS IN MY OPINION, AS I LOOK AT THAT, THAT ARE GOING TO HAPPEN BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO GO SOMEWHERE TO GET IT.
AND I GUESS IT ISN'T THE SOUTH SUBURBS THAT THEY GO TO FOR THAT.
I LIKE THE IDEA OF SAYING WE CAN CAP OUT WHAT WE WOULD PUT INTO THAT, BUT IF THERE'S A DIFFERENT WAY OR ANOTHER WAY TO HAVE THIS VOICE, I UNDERSTAND SITTING AND WAITING AND SEEING WHAT HAPPENS, WHERE IT GOES AND WHAT IT IS, AND VERY MUCH SO AGREE THAT WE DO ALL HAVE DIFFERENT NEEDS, BUT CAN WE AGREE ON 1 OR 2 IMPORTANT NEEDS THAT ARE REALLY GOING TO AFFECT ALL OF US RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW? I'M ASSUMING THOSE KEY AREAS OF SHARED POLICY CONCERNS ARE WHAT THEY'RE AIMING AT, RIGHT? YES. SO THOSE ARE THIS YEAR FOR THIS YEAR.
I MEAN, I LOVE THE IDEA OF WORKING WITH THE OTHER CITIES.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME I AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER BENSON.
I DON'T KNOW WHO THESE PEOPLE ARE. I MEAN, MAYBE SOREN, YOU KNOW ABOUT THESE PEOPLE.
IT WASN'T A LOBBYING EFFORT. IT'S MORE ALONG THE WASTE HAULING STUFF.
OUR FIRM DOESN'T DO ANY LOBBYING. SO I, YOU KNOW, MY VARIOUS CLIENTS DO ENGAGE LOBBYISTS.
I DID DO A QUICK CHECK. AND THIS IS NOT MEANT TO BE A PRO OR CON, BUT NOBODY IS USING THIS PERSON, SO THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS. BUT THAT'S NOT BECAUSE THIS PERSON ISN'T QUALIFIED AND WOULDN'T DO A GOOD JOB.
I JUST NOBODY'S USING HIM RIGHT NOW. SO THAT IS WHAT I KNOW AT THIS POINT.
IT IS NOT UNCOMMON TO HAVE A LOBBYIST. I THINK IT'S SOMEWHAT NEW.
THERE IS AN ORGANIZATION, GREATER MINNESOTA COALITION, THAT TRIES TO LOBBY ON THINGS THAT ARE NOT SEEN AS, QUOTE, METRO ITEMS, BUT THAT'S HUNDREDS OF CITIES AT THIS POINT.
AND SO THE IDEA OF SORT OF A LAKE COMMUNITY IS NOVEL AND NEW AND PERHAPS APPROPRIATE.
SO THE IDEA IS THERE, BUT YOU HAVE SOME COORDINATION EFFORTS AND IS THIS THE RIGHT PERSON,
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THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO DISCUSSIONS APPROPRIATE.WITH YOUR CLIENTS THAT HAVE USED LOBBYISTS. WHAT HAVE THEY BEEN, I GUESS GENERALLY SPEAKING, SUCCESSFUL AT LOBBYING FOR? IS THIS FOR BIG PROJECTS, GETTING BONDING MONEY, FOR EXAMPLE.
THAT IS THE MOST COMMON IS THE APPROPRIATIONS OR BONDING MONEY, OR A BIG, USUALLY ASSOCIATED WITH EITHER A RATHER LARGE PUBLIC FACILITY OR, CANDIDLY, ROAD PROJECTS THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
THE POLICY DIRECTIONS ARE A LITTLE BIT HARDER, BECAUSE IF ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU'RE AT THE LEGISLATURE ON BEHALF OF ONE COMMUNITY, ON AN OTHERWISE STATEWIDE OBJECTIVE, THAT GETS HARD.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE LEAGUE IS VERY FOCUSED ON THAT.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE WHILE WE DON'T LOBBY, WE'VE BEEN VERY, YOU KNOW, WORKING WITH THE LEAGUE ON LANGUAGE, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO THERE'S A LOT OF LEGISLATION AROUND THAT, BECAUSE IT INVOLVES ZONING, WHICH IS AT THE HEART OF WHAT YOU DO ON YOUR.
VERY, VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE THIS YEAR. AND I KNOW IT.
I DO NOT ASK ME TO PREDICT WHAT THE LEGISLATURE WILL TAKE UP AND WHAT THEY WANT, OR WHAT WILL PASS, BECAUSE I BET AGAINST ME. BUT I THIS THE MISSING MIDDLE, OR THE AFFORDABILITY ISSUE OR ZONING OR WHATEVER WE'RE GOING TO CALL IT, WILL BE BEFORE THE LEGISLATURE THIS YEAR. YEAH.
THANK YOU. OTHER THOUGHTS OR TO MAKE A MOTION.
ENTERTAIN THAT? SURE. I'LL MAKE A, WHAT ARE WE LOOKING? I'LL MAKE A MOTION. I DON'T KNOW IF I'D SAY DENY, BUT NOT TO JOIN THE LAKE MINNETONKA COALITION PROPOSAL.
OKAY. IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION? HEARING. HEARING? NO. I, PART OF ME LIKES THAT WE HAVE SOMEBODY GOING IN TO TALK ABOUT OUR INTERESTS.
BECAUSE I THINK OUR INTERESTS ARE DIFFERENT. AND A LOT OF THE OTHER CITIES, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE ORONO THE WAY THAT WE'RE STRUCTURED AND STUFF, RIGHT, WE'RE MOSTLY RESIDENTIAL. THE ZONING IS A HUGE THING TO ME.
SO TO KNOW THAT SOMEBODY'S WATCHING OUT FOR US, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, ARE THEY GOING TO MAKE AN IMPACT, I DON'T KNOW. I KNOW THAT IT'S NICE TO GO WITH ALL THE OTHER CITIES, TOO.
I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT, BUT. LET ME ASK THE QUESTION, I GUESS, OF STAFF.
IF WE WERE TO BUDGET $10,000 FOR THIS, IS THERE A PLACE THAT WOULD COME FROM.
NATURALLY? I KNOW IT'S NOT BUDGETED. IS THERE A PLACE WE COULD FIND THAT MONEY? YEAH, WE CAN FIND $10,000, BUT THAT REMOVES FLEXIBILITY FOR SOME OTHER THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT AND OUR GOALS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, SO.
YOUR QUESTION, MR. MAYOR STRIKES AT MAYBE WHAT WAS PERCOLATING IN THE BACK OF MY BRAIN, WHICH IS THAT HAVING SAT HERE BEFORE AND HAD PROPOSALS THAT MAY BE WELL INTENTIONED COME BEFORE ME AND REALLY TRYING TO BE MINDFUL OF HOW WE ARE PLANNING AND HOW WE ARE SAVING FOR FISCALLY, RESPONSIBLY, YOU KNOW, FINANCIALLY, RESPONSIBLY, BEING GOOD FISCAL STEWARDS THAT I UNDERSTAND THAT SOME THINGS COME UP THAT MAY BE EMERGENT. I DON'T FEEL THAT THIS IS AND IT'S ANOTHER, IN MY OPINION, ARGUMENT FOR MAYBE TAKING A WAIT AND SEE APPROACH TO THIS.
AND IF WE'RE INCLINED TO BUDGET FOR IT AND FEEL THAT IT MAY BE OF INTEREST IN THE COMING YEAR OR SO, THEN WE COULD HAVE THAT DISCUSSION. YEAH, MY CONCERN AGAIN GOES BACK TO, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THIS LOCAL CONTROL BECAUSE WE'VE, WE'VE SEEN THIS COME UP IN THE PAST. AND I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE RELEVANT IN OUR COMMUNITY.
THAT BEING SAID, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE HAD PLANNED TO BUDGET AND I DON'T FEEL LIKE, WELL, I THINK IT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO BE A VERY COLLABORATIVE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITIES.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WOULD SECOND THE MOTION THAT WE HAVE ON THE TABLE.
THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? WELL, I JUST ADD THAT I THINK IN HEARING THE DISCUSSION HERE,
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THAT MAKES SENSE, BEING THAT IT'S NOT BUDGETED.WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP THINGS IN LINE THERE, BEING THOSE STEWARDS AND BEING FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE, EVEN THOUGH I BELIEVE THAT IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO US.
BUT TAKING THAT WAIT AND SEE WITH IT NOT BEING IN OUR BUDGET.
I WOULD SUPPORT THE DENIAL. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE? ALL RIGHT. SO IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED THAT WE DO NOT PARTICIPATE THIS YEAR IN THE LAKE MINNETONKA AREA LEGISLATIVE COALITION, AT LEAST UNDER THE PROPOSAL THAT'S BEEN PUT FORTH.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYE. MOTION CARRIES 4 TO 1.
ALL RIGHT. ANY REPORTS FROM OUR ATTORNEY OR CITY ADMINISTRATOR?
[Mayor and Council Report]
NO, I THINK THE MAIN THING THIS PAST WEEK FOR THE STAFF WAS ONE WAS WORKING OUT SOME OF THE GOAL STUFF PARTICULARLY WITH THE SENIOR STAFF.AND THEN JUST DOING SOME OF THE RESPONSE AND PUTTING THINGS OUT, LIKE OUR MESSAGE ON YOU KNOW, WHAT THE POLICE DOES AND DOESN'T DO. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'VE BEEN BEEN FOCUSED THIS THIS WEEK.
IT IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN ALL CONSUMING FOR ME OVER THE LAST TWO WEEKS IN VARIOUS COMMUNITIES.
SO EACH COMMUNITY IS KIND OF TAKING A, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF PRESSURE TO QUOTE, DO SOMETHING.
AND EACH COMMUNITY LOOKS AT THAT VERY DIFFERENTLY.
AND SO WE'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN VARIOUS ASPECTS OF THAT.
AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I WILL BE SHARING WITH ADAM.
AND, YOU KNOW, HE CAN DISPERSE THAT HOW HE SEES FIT TO YOU GUYS, IF THERE'S IDEAS THAT YOU WANT ALL THE WAY FROM, YOU KNOW, RESOLUTIONS AFFIRMING COMMUNITY VALUES AND STEWARDSHIPS BY SOME CITIES TO ACTUALLY MAYBE GETTING INVOLVED LEGALLY ON SOME OF THESE THINGS, SO. IT'S JUST MEANT TO BE INFORMATION, BUT IT IS STUFF I WILL FORWARD.
ADAM AND YOU CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IT. I KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S BEEN VERY IMPORTANT IS, IS, IN FACT, WHAT CORY AND ADAM ARE DOING AND RACHEL.
BUT JUST THE MESSAGING TO COMMUNITY, THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
YEAH. AND A LOT OF THINGS OF, HEY, WHAT CAN WE DO? IS THIS LEGAL? ISN'T IT? AND IT'S JUST AN ABSOLUTE GRAY AREA RIGHT NOW WITH NO DEFINITIVE ANSWERS.
YEAH. PROVIDING SOME GUIDANCE IS HELPFUL. BUT AGAIN, IT'S A LINE OF NOT PROVIDING LEGAL ADVICE EITHER, BUT JUST SORT OF HERE'S WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T DO.
SO I WILL BE SHARING THAT WITH ADAM. WELL, FRANKLY JUST ON THAT TOPIC I THINK THE ACTIONS OF ICE IN MANY WAYS WERE MEANT TO BE DIVISIVE AND PUTTING OUT ANY SORT OF STATEMENT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT PLAYS INTO THAT DIVISIVENESS IN A WAY THAT IS NOT INTENDED.
WE'RE INTENDED TO. I'M SURE CITIES ARE INTENDING TO PUT OUT MESSAGES OF SUPPORT.
THAT GETS INTERPRETED AS ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER, AND IT BECOMES DIVISIVE IN A BACKHANDED WAY, WHICH KIND OF DEFEATS THE PURPOSE. YEAH, TO A CERTAIN EXTENT, I COMPLETELY AGREE.
BEST INTENTIONS. I MEAN, YOU NEVER KNOW. ANYWAY, THAT'S ALL I HAD.
ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL REPORTS, ANYTHING? WE'LL START WITH.
NOTHING FOR ME. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. ANYTHING TO REPORT? I ATTENDED THE BRAVER ANGELS THAT WAS PUT ON BY THE SHOREWOOD OR THE CITY OF SHOREWOOD AT THE SHOREWOOD COMMUNITY CENTER, ACTUALLY WAS VERY IT WAS VERY INSIGHTFUL. THERE WERE A LOT OF MAYORS THERE.
EXCELSIOR, MINNETONKA BEACH, LONG LAKE WAS THERE AND STUFF.
THERE WERE PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE TWIN CITIES THERE. IT WAS REALLY PRETTY ENLIGHTENING.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON IS A BOTTOMS UP.
THEY FIRST TRY TO FIND A COMMON THING THAT THEY CAN ALL WORK ON AND THEN GO OUT FROM THERE.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THEY'RE WORKING ON IS IMMIGRATION REFORM.
AND THEY'RE HOPING THAT IF THEY HAVE ENOUGH OF THESE MEETINGS WITH A LOT OF IDEAS, THEY'RE HOPING TO PRESENT IT ACTUALLY TO THE FEDERAL LEVEL TO START SHARING THOSE WITH OUR REPRESENTATIVES TO START SOME TYPE OF REFORM.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR TIMEFRAME IS FOR THAT, BUT THAT WAS VERY ENLIGHTENING.
I ALSO WENT TO THE BOAT SHOW THAT WE WERE INVITED TO AT THE MINNEAPOLIS CONVENTION CENTER, AND THAT WAS INTERESTING. THAT WAS PUT ON BY THE NATIONAL MARINE MANUFACTURERS ASSOCIATION.
THERE WEREN'T A LOT OF PEOPLE THERE. IT WAS BLOODY COLD.
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DO AND THEIR CONCERN FOR WATER QUALITY. WE YOU KNOW, AIS CONTROL AND THINGS LIKE THAT.SO VERY INTERESTING. YEAH. NICE. I HAVE NOTHING TO REPORT OTHER THAN I WANT TO GOT TO SAY IT, BUT THANK COMMISSIONER ROTH AND COMMISSIONER DALY FOR THEIR, DELANEY FOR THEIR SERVICE IN THE PARKS COMMISSION.
YEAH. THEY'RE HERE. AND ONE FURTHER NOTE ON THE BRAVER ANGELS, MAYOR MINOR AND I HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT CO-HOSTING A BRAVER ANGELS EVENT, PROBABLY SOMETIME IN APRIL.
UNLESS WE FEEL LIKE WE'VE GOT SO MUCH OF A OF A AUDIENCE THAT WE MIGHT NEED TO FIND A BIGGER SPACE, BUT ANYWAY, KEEP I'LL TRY TO KEEP PEOPLE POSTED AS DATES COME INTO FOCUS.
IT'LL PROBABLY BE A TUESDAY OR THURSDAY NIGHT IN APRIL.
BUT I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT DISCUSSION. I THINK IT'S PARTICULARLY YOU KNOW, SENDS IT SENDS A GOOD MESSAGE TO THE BROADER COMMUNITY THAT WE WOULD BE CO-HOSTING WITH LONG LAKE ON THAT. SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT.
HAVING I'VE BEEN TO A COUPLE OF THEIR EVENTS AND THEY ARE WELL DONE.
SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING THAT IN OUR COMMUNITY.
THAT I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
AYE. ANY OPPOSED? HEARING NONE. WE ARE ADJOURNED AT 7:40.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.