>> NO PROBLEM. IT IS SIX O'CLOCK. [Roll Call] [00:00:03] WE HAVE ALL OF OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MAYOR PRESENT. WITH THAT, I WOULD ASK YOU TO JOIN ME IN PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. >> >> THANK YOU, AND WELCOME TO OUR MEETING TONIGHT. FIRST ITEM IS APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA. [Approval of Agenda] [Consent Agenda] TONIGHT'S CONSENT AGENDA INCLUDES 10 ITEMS. THESE ITEMS ARE CONSIDERED ROUTINE, BE ENACTED BY ONE MOTION WITH NO DISCUSSION. UNLESS THE COUNCIL MEMBER OR STAFF REQUESTS THE ITEM TO BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR SEPARATE DISCUSSION AND ACTION. TONIGHT'S CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS ARE CITY COUNCIL MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING. CLAIMS AND BILLS. UPCOMING WORK SESSION AND COUNCIL TRAINING SCHEDULE, RESIGNATION AND RECRUITMENT OF A BUILDING MAINTENANCE CUSTODIAN POSITION, ANNUAL PERFORMANCE REVIEW OF THE CITY ADMINISTRATOR, PROPOSAL FOR RECYCLING COLLECTION, AND FOUR OR THREE VARIANCES AND A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, 650 BROWN NORTH, VARIANCES, 3745 SHORELINE DRIVE, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, 880 PARTENWOOD ROAD VARIANCE, AND A VARIANCE AND CUP AT 1440 BALDUR PARK ROAD. WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO APPROVE THE AGENDA, INCLUDING THE CONSENT AGENDA OR PULL ANY ITEMS OUT OF THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR SEPARATE CONSIDERATION. >> MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO PULL NUMBER 4, PLEASE, AND ALSO ADD A DISCUSSION ITEM ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION OF PUBLIC WORKS CLEANUP DAY. >> I'M SORRY. THE LAST ONE WAS? >> TO ADD AN ITEM TO OUR AGENDA TONIGHT. I'D LIKE TO REMOVE NUMBER 4 FROM CONSENT AND PROPOSE ADDING AN ITEM ON DISCUSSION OF PUBLIC WORKS CLEANUP DAY. >> ANYTHING ELSE? ANYONE CARE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS ADJUSTED? >> I'LL MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA, REMOVING ITEM NUMBER 4 AND ADDING THE ITEM THAT I DISCUSSED EARLIER. >> I'LL SECOND. >> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE? >> AYE. >> ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIDE. MOTION CARRIES. CONSENT AGENDA IS APPROVED. NOW, I STAND FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS, [Public Comments] OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL. COUNCIL WILL NOT ENGAGE IN DISCUSSION OR TAKE ACTION ON ITEMS PRESENTED AT THIS TIME, JUST TO BE CLEAR. HOWEVER, WE CAN REFER ISSUES TO STAFF FOR FOLLOW UP OR CONSIDERATION OF FUTURE MEETING. WE'D ASK THE SPEAKERS TO STATE THEIR NAME AND HOME ADDRESS AT THE PODIUM BEFORE SPEAKING. SPEAKERS SHOULD BE MINDFUL OF TIME AND TRY TO LIMIT THEIR REMARKS TO THREE MINUTES TO ALLOW SUFFICIENT OPPORTUNITIES FOR OTHERS TO SPEAK. I ENCOURAGE SPEAKERS TO ADDRESS THEIR COMMENTS TO THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL AND KEEP THEIR REMARKS RESPECTFUL AND RELEVANT, AND PLEASE NO PERSONAL ATTACKS. CRITICISM OF IDEAS IS ACCEPTABLE, BUT ATTACKS AGAINST INDIVIDUALS ARE NOT TOLERATED. PLEASE MAKE YOUR STATEMENTS IN A CIVIL MANNER. SIMILARLY, WE ASK EVERYONE IN THE AUDIENCE TO BE RESPECTFUL OF SPEAKERS AND REFRAIN FROM DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR. WITH THAT, DO WE HAVE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WISH TO ADDRESS THIS AT THIS TIME? [INAUDIBLE] GUARD 1386 REST POINT. YOU ALL KNOW ME FAIRLY WELL. I CONTACTED ALL OF YOU A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO SAYING THERE'S A PROGRAM IN A MINNESOTA CALLED SOLAR AND PUBLIC BUILDINGS GRANT PROGRAM, AND IT'S ONLY GOING ON FOR ANOTHER YEAR. WELL, UNFORTUNATELY, THAT WAS TWO MONTHS AGO, AND NOW WE ONLY HAVE TWO MONTHS IN ORDER TO PUT PROJECT TOGETHER AND FILL OUT AN APPLICATION TO ACTUALLY GET SOME MONEY. IF WE WANT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF WHAT MINNESOTA'S GIVING AWAY FOR FREE TO HELP YOU GUYS GO GREEN ON SOME OF YOUR BUILDINGS, WE'VE REALLY LOST OUT ON AN OPPORTUNITY IF WE DON'T START MOVING NOW. IT'S REALLY GOT TO GO. I HAD A GOOD RESPONSE FROM SEVERAL OF YOU THAT THIS IS A GREAT IDEA. THIS IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD DO. BUT UNFORTUNATELY, WE CAN'T DO IT LIKE GOVERNMENT AROUND HERE NORMALLY DOES, WELL, EXCEPT WHEN THEY WANT TO CHASE ME, THEY'RE ON THAT. BUT WE GOT TO GET ON THIS, AND WE GOT TO DO SOMETHING OR ELSE IT'S GOING TO BE GONE. I'LL JUST SAY THAT, I CALLED THE LONG LAKE MAYOR ABOUT THIS, AND WITHIN THREE DAYS I WAS TALKING TO THE FINANCIAL DIRECTOR. LONG LAKE'S LOOKING AT HOW THEY CAN USE IT. NOW, YOU MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO GET 70%. YOU MIGHT ONLY BE ABLE TO GET 50%. THERE'S DIFFERENT QUALIFICATIONS IN THIS PROGRAM. I DON'T KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT THE PROGRAM. BUT STAFF, I'M SURE, CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY NEED TO. BUT WHAT I CAN DELIVER WITH YOU GUYS IS WHAT I [00:05:02] DELIVERED WITH LONG LAKE IS I CAN GET STAFF AN IDEA WHAT IT IS FROM THE INSTALLERS PERSPECTIVE AS TO EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH, WHAT THE COSTS ARE GOING TO BE AND COST RANGE AND ALL OF THAT. I JUST WANTED TO COME UP HERE AND REMIND YOU GUYS. TIME'S RUNNING OUT. YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET SOLAR ON YOUR BUILDINGS, AND HAVE THE STATE GIVE SOME OF OUR TAX MONEY BACK. >> LOVE TO HAVE STAFF TAKE A LOOK INTO THAT WITH THAT PROGRAM. >> WE DID APPLY FOR THAT PROGRAM LAST YEAR. UNFORTUNATELY, WE'RE NOT SELECTED, AND SO WE ARE RESUBMITTING OUR APPLICATION AGAIN THIS YEAR. >> AWESOME. THAT'S GREAT. THANK YOU. >> IS IT OKAY IF I SEE THAT APPLICATION, SEE IF I CAN HELP IT AT ALL? >> I'LL SEE, WHY NOT? >> IT'S A PUBLIC DOCUMENT. >> SURE. >> THANK YOU. >> EMAIL IT TO ME, PLEASE, ADAM. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? NOBODY POP UP? WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER, [4. Resignation & Recruitment - Building Maintenance/Custodian] I GUESS LET'S GO TO ITEM NUMBER 4, RESIGNATION AND RECRUITMENT OF BUILDING MAINTENANCE AND CUSTODIAN. COUNCIL MEMBER BENSON, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS YOU HAD THERE. >> SURE. IT'S MORE OF QUESTIONS RELATED TO THE POSITION. JUST WE'RE IN THE BUDGET CYCLE AND TALKING ABOUT EXPENSES, AND THIS IS ONE WHERE I'M WONDERING IF THIS POSITION, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE HISTORY WOULD BE HELPFUL AND ALSO TO NOTE IF THIS IS A POSITION THAT WE'VE WOULD EVER CONSIDER POTENTIALLY CONTRACTING OUT. IF THERE'S ANY COST OR ANALYSIS OF THAT FACTORING IN HERE, AS LONG AS THIS PERSON IS DECIDING TO STEP DOWN. >. SURE. THE CUSTODIAN POSITION IS A POSITION THAT WE BROUGHT IN HOUSE MAYBE THREE OR FOUR YEARS AGO. PRIOR TO THAT, WE HAD CONTRACT CUSTODIAL SERVICES FOR OUR FACILITIES, WHICH, QUITE HONESTLY, WAS EXORBITANTLY EXPENSIVE, AND WE SWITCHED CONTRACTOR SEVERAL TIMES AND COULD NEVER REALLY GET GOOD QUALITY WORK DONE. WE STARTED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO BY BRINGING THIS POSITION IN-HOUSE, PART-TIME ARRANGEMENT, AND THEN JUST MAYBE A YEAR OR SO AGO, CHANGED IT TO A FULL-TIME POSITION IN-HOUSE AND SAW THE LEVEL OF QUALITY AND RESPONSIVENESS OF THE CUSTODIAL POSITION DRASTICALLY INCREASE. I GUESS, YES, WE'VE LOOKED AT OUTSOURCING. THAT'S WHAT WE USED TO DO. WE BROUGHT IT IN-HOUSE. WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF PEOPLE FILL THE POSITION, BOTH HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB. ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WITH THE CUSTODIAL POSITION IS JUST RETENTION, AND THAT FOLKS DON'T NECESSARILY STAY IN IT FOR YEARS AND YEARS. WE'VE BEEN GETTING ABOUT TWO YEARS OUT OF EACH OF OUR CUSTODIANS SO FAR. I LOVE TO HAVE SOMEONE TO STAY LONGER. WE'VE LOOKED OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS TOO OF MAYBE INCREASING SOME OF THE RESPONSIBILITIES IN THE POSITION FROM MORE THAN JUST CLEANING TO, WHAT YOU WOULD CALL IT? MINOR MAINTENANCE AND REPAIRS. THE PERSON WHO'S LEAVING US NOW DID TAKE ON SOME ADDITIONAL RESPONSIBILITIES AND PAINTING AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT WE'RE CONTINUING TO EXPLORE THAT AND HOW WE MIGHT ADD SOME MORE VALUE TO THE POSITION FOR THE CITY. >> FROM A FINANCIAL STANDPOINT, HAS IT COST US MORE OR LESS TO HAVE AN IN-HOUSE PERSON VERSUS THE CONTRACT? >> WHEN WE SWITCHED, IT WAS ALMOST COST NEUTRAL, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT OF SAVINGS. >> I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER UNLESS OTHER. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP. ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE RESIGNATION AND THE RECRUITMENT OF THE REPLACEMENT FOR THE CUSTODIAN. >> SURE, A MOTION TO APPROVE THE RESIGNATION OF JULIA ARISTAD EFFECTIVE SEPTEMBER 12TH, 2025 AND TO AUTHORIZE STAFF TO BEGIN THEIR RECRUITMENT PROCESS FOR THE BUILDING MAINTENANCE CUSTODIAN POSITION. >> THERE A SECOND TO THAT? >> I'LL SECOND IT. >> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE? >> AYE. > ALL THOSE OPPOSED THE SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION ON THAT. NOW, LET'S MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER 111530 ORCHARD BEACH PLACE. [11. LA25-000025, 1530 Orchard Beach Place, Variance - Resolution 7613] I WOULD TURN THIS OVER TO STAFF. >> MR. MAYOR, I DO HAVE A COUPLE SLIDES, IF YOU'D LIKE ME TO SHOW THEM. >> YOU CAN GO AHEAD. THANK YOU. >> PERFECT. JUST TO RECAP YOU ON WHERE WE'VE BEEN WITH 1530 ORCHARD ORCHARD BEACH PLACE A VARIANCE ON OUR WEST SIDE OF TOWN. ULTIMATELY, THIS IS AN AVERAGE LAKESHORE SETBACK VARIANCE [00:10:03] THAT HAS COME BEFORE YOU NOW FOR THE THIRD TIME, JUST GENERALLY A RECAP OF WHAT WE HAVE HERE, AN ACCESSORY BUILDING THAT IS LAKEWOOD OF THE PRIMARY RESIDENTS OUTSIDE OF THE LAKESHORE, BUT WITHIN THE AVERAGE LAKESHORE SETBACK. THIS WENT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON JULY 21ST, WHERE THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE APPLICATION. ON AUGUST 11TH, I BROUGHT THE APPLICATION FOR YOU WITH THOSE FINDINGS, STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL, AS WELL AS A PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL. THERE WAS A VOTE DURING THIS MEETING TO DENY THE APPLICATION AND FOR STAFF TO PREPARE FINDINGS OF DENIAL. ON AUGUST 25TH, I WASN'T WITH YOU, BUT THE APPLICATION WENT FORWARD WITHOUT ME, WHERE THE FINDINGS WERE PREPARED FOR YOU WITH FINDINGS OF DENIAL. IN THE TIME BETWEEN THOSE MEETINGS BETWEEN THE 11TH AND 25TH, THE APPLICANT OR THE OWNER IN THIS CASE, PROVIDED ADDITIONAL TESTIMONY FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, AND DURING THIS MEETING ON THE 25TH, I DO BELIEVE THERE WAS DISCUSSION, I BELIEVE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER RIX TO CONSIDER POTENTIAL ALTERNATE LOCATIONS ON THE SITE TO WHICH THE APPLICANT AND THE OWNER AND THE REPRESENTATION HAD PUT FORWARD ANOTHER LETTER EXPLORING REALLY THREE OPTIONS AND EXPLAINING WHY THE PLAN THAT HAD BEEN SUBMITTED AND REVIEWED HAD BEEN THE BEST POSSIBLE PLAN ARGUABLY. AND WE'RE HERE TODAY WITH BOTH LETTERS SUBMITTED ON BEHALF OF THE OWNER, AS WELL AS THE FINDINGS OF DENIAL THAT WERE BROUGHT FORWARD TO YOU ON AUGUST 25. AND JUST SO YOU HAVE A VISUAL, AS YOU GO FORWARD HERE, I BOLDED SOME OF THE WINES THAT WERE PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT THAT SHOW YOU WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE. THE AVERAGE LAKESHORE SETBACK WINE. I DO HAVE THE ACCESSORY BUILDING, THE CABANA BUILDING HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW, REALLY WEDGED BETWEEN THE 20 FOOT SIDE SETBACK. YOU WILL SEE THAT THE PURPLE LINE, THE 10 FOOT BUILDING SEPARATION WAS AN ITEM OF CONCERN AT THE TIME OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. HOWEVER, THE APPLICANT WAS ABLE TO MOVE THE BUILDING PORTION OF THE CABANA OUTSIDE OF THIS 10 FOOT SPACE OF THE HOUSE. JUST NOTING THAT WE HAVE A DIFFERENCE IN DEFINITION BETWEEN BUILDING AND STRUCTURE. THE ENCLOSED PORTION OF THE CABANA IS OUTSIDE OF THAT 10 FEET OF SEPARATION WHERE MORE OF A PERGOLA PORTION ON THE EAST SIDE THAT CAN BE WITHIN 10 FEET OF THE HOUSE. I JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE A VISUAL FOR THE PLAN THAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT. REALLY, NOT TO GO INTO ABUNDANT DETAIL HERE AS YOU'VE HEARD THIS APPLICATION A FEW TIMES NOW, YOU DO HAVE TWO OPTIONS FOR A MOTION. WE DO HAVE FINDINGS OF DENIAL THAT ARE BASED ON THE VOTE THAT WAS CONDUCTED ON AUGUST 11TH. HOWEVER, BASED ON THE DISCUSSION DURING THE LAST MEETING ON THE 25TH, SOUNDED LIKE THERE WAS SOME RECEPTIVENESS TO GO THE OTHER WAY. IF THAT IS THE CASE, TWO MOTIONS WOULD BE NEEDED TO GO IN THAT OTHER DIRECTION TO RESCIND THE VOTE OF DENIAL AND A MOTION TO DIRECT STAFF TO DRAFT FINDINGS OF APPROVAL. HOWEVER, THAT RESOLUTION, 7613 WITH THE FINDINGS OF DENIAL WAS PREPARED AND SUBMITTED WITH YOUR PACKET FOR THIS EVENING. CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE, BUT GENERALLY, THIS IS THE OVERVIEW. THANK YOU. >> IS IT MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY'VE JUST RESUBMITTED THE SAME PLAN THAT THEY ORIGINALLY HAD? BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S IN OUR PACKET. >> I WOULDN'T NECESSARILY SAY THAT. THEY PROVIDED A LETTER JUSTIFYING WHY THAT WAS ARGUABLY THE BEST POSSIBLE LOCATION IN TERMS OF MEETING THE SIGHTLINE OF THE ADJACENT HOME TO THE EAST? >> EXCUSE ME FOR INTERRUPTING YOU, I THINK AND THE SIDE YARD SETBACK REQUIREMENTS? >> CORRECT. BECAUSE IF YOU DID END UP SLIDING THE BUILDING AS THE LETTER HAD STATED, YOU'D BE IMPACTING TWO SETBACKS. YOU'D STILL BE IMPACTING THE AVERAGE LAKESHORE SETBACK, BUT THEN YOU'D BE ENCROACHING UPON THE 20 FOOT SIDE SETBACK AS WELL. MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE LETTER IS THAT THE OPTION THAT HAD BEEN PRESENTED AND REVIEWED WAS CONSISTENT AND REALLY THE BEST OPTION FOR THE APPLICANT AND ALL INVOLVED. >> CAN I ASK HOW MANY TREES WERE CUT DOWN WHEN THEY STARTED THIS PROJECT BETWEEN THE HOUSE AND THE LAKE? >> I'M NOT AWARE. I WAS THERE TODAY, AND I NOTICED THERE WASN'T ONE TREE IN THE YARD. I WAS WONDERING HOW MANY HAD BEEN REMOVED TO START THIS PROJECT? [NOISE] THANK YOU. [00:15:04] >> ULTIMATELY, THE SITE SURVEY THAT WAS SUBMITTED MONTHS AGO FOR MANY OF THE PERMITS THAT THEY HAD APPLIED FOR SHORELINE REPAIR. THE PATIO, THE POOLS, HAD INDICATED THAT THERE WAS THREE TREES WITHIN THE LAKESHORE. THAT WAS WHAT WAS PRESENT ON THE INFORMATION SUBMITTED TO STAFF BACK IN JUNE. >> OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? >> THANK YOU. TIM KELLY, I'M THE ATTORNEY. I'M BACK AGAIN. >> WELCOME BACK. >> THANK YOU. MR. SCHREIBER, THE OWNER IS HERE, AND THEN THE GENTLEMAN NEXT TO HIM IS JOSH CHANDLER WHO IS THE LANDSCAPE DESIGNER. >> THE OWNER DOES APPRECIATE THE TIME AND CONSIDERATION YOU'VE GIVEN THIS REQUEST. UNDERSTANDING THIS IS YOUR THIRD TIME, CONSIDERING THE REQUEST. TO BE CLEAR, COUNCIL MEMBER RICK, WE DID SUBMIT A DESIGN PLAN, WHICH SHOWED A LOCATION BASED ON THE FEEDBACK WE GOT THE LAST MEETING, WHICH MOVED THE CABANA CLOSER TO THE POOL EQUIPMENT AND ALSO RE ORIENTATED THE CABANA. AS WE SAID IN OUR LETTER, THAT THAT CHANGE WOULD THEN REQUIRE NOT ONLY THE AVERAGE LAKESHORE SETBACK VARIANCE REQUEST, BUT ALSO A SIDE YARD SETBACK REQUEST. WE DID NOT CONSIDER ALTERNATIVE LOCATIONS THAT WOULD HAVE IMPACTED THE 10 FOOT. SETBACK REQUIREMENT BASED ON WHAT WAS STAY AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, I BELIEVE IT WAS, THAT'S MORE OF A FIRE CODE REQUIREMENT, AND SO WE DIDN'T THINK ANYONE WOULD ENTERTAIN A VARIANCE FROM THAT REQUEST. WE DO THINK THE PROPOSAL THAT WAS DISCUSSED THE LAST MEETING IS THE MOST REASONABLE ONE BECAUSE IT'S LIMITED TO THE ONE VARIANCE REQUEST. AS WE'VE DISCUSSED, I MEAN, EVERYONE DOES AGREE THAT IF THIS VARIANCE IS GRANTED, YOU'RE NOT GRANTING A VARIANCE FOR AN ACCESSORY BUILDING THAT WILL IMPACT LAKE VIEWS FROM ANY ADJACENT PROPERTIES. I THINK THAT REFLECTS THE CONSISTENCY OF THIS PROPOSAL BEING CONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL PURPOSE AND INTENT OF THE AVERAGE. I'M TOO TALL FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE, STEP BACK REQUIREMENT, AND SO WE DID TAKE YOUR FEEDBACK INTO ACCOUNT AND TRIED TO SHOW WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE, AND WHY WE THOUGHT THAT WOULD ACTUALLY MAKE US REQUEST TWO VARIANCES, AND THAT HAVING ONE VARIANCE REQUEST IS THE MOST REASONABLE. AGAIN, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT IMPACTING OR INTERFERING WITH LAKE VIEWS, WE BELIEVE THAT REFLECTS THE REASONABLENESS OF THIS PROPOSED USE. VARIANCES GIVE YOU FLEXIBILITY FROM THE STRICT ENFORCEMENT, AND I'M HARD PRESSED TO THINK OF BETTER FACTUAL SITUATION FOR YOU CAN CONSIDER IN GRANTING A VARIANCE FROM YOUR AVERAGE LAKESHORE SETBACK REQUIREMENT. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE OR IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE OWNER OR THE LANDSCAPE DESIGNER. >> I KNOW YOU ADDRESSED THIS IN YOUR LETTER, BUT I WAS LOOKING AT THIS SECOND BULLET POINT THAT YOU BROUGHT UP ON PRACTICAL DIFFICULTIES. LANDOWNERS PROBLEMS DUE TO CIRCUMSTANCES UNIQUE TO THE PROPERTY NOT CREATED BY THE LANDOWNER. I'M STRUGGLING WITH THAT A LITTLE BIT IN THAT THERE'S NOTHING UNIQUE ABOUT THIS PROPERTY. IT'S JUST UNIQUE, WHAT'S UNIQUE ABOUT IT IS YOU WANT TO PUT A STRUCTURE THAT REQUIRES A VARIANCE. MAYBE YOU CAN ADDRESS THAT. AGAIN, I KNOW YOU DID IT IN YOUR LETTER, BUT IF YOU CAN DO THAT FOR THE COUNSEL, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT. >> OF COURSE, AND THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. I THINK WHEN WE READ THE LAST MEETING WE DISCUSSED A COUPLE OF THE UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCES. ONE, THE UNIQUENESS, REMEMBER IS NOT THAT THIS IS THE ONLY PROPERTY THAT HAS A SITUATION LIKE IT. IT'S JUST ONE THAT IS NOT REFLECTIVE OF A GENERAL CONDITION IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND SO, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS. ONE, THE PROPERTY THAT'S MOST ADJACENT TO THE WEST IS WELL SET FORWARD THAN THIS PROPOSED CABANA OR THE RESIDENTS. THE LOCATION NEXT TO THE RIGHT AWAY ELIMINATES THE USE OF THAT ADJACENT PROPERTY TO THE WEST TO ESTABLISH THE AVERAGE LAKESHORE SETBACK. THEN IF YOU LOOK AT THE SHORELINE ON THIS PROPERTY, [00:20:02] IN ADDITION TO THE OTHER TWO CHARACTERISTICS, THE SHORELINE IN THIS PROPERTY REALLY JETS UP AND THEN INCREASES THE IMPACT OF THE AVERAGE LAKESHORE SETBACK BASED ON THE HOME TO THE EAST. I DON'T THINK IT'S ANY ONE OF THOSE FACTORS THAT YOU HAVE TO POINT TO, BUT IT'S THE COMBINATION OF THOSE THREE. CHARACTERISTICS IS PROBABLY THE BETTER TERM. OTHER QUESTIONS? >> WHEN YOU DESIGNED IT, DID YOU KNOW YOU WERE GOING TO BE BUILDING A CABANA INSIDE THE 75 FEET? >> [INAUDIBLE] >> THE AVERAGE LAKESHORE SETBACK. >> [INAUDIBLE] >> SORRY, COULD YOU COME UP TO THE MIC. OTHERWISE, THE RECORDER CAN'T GET YOU. >> YES. I GUESS, JUST TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. SHORT ANSWER IS NO. I DON'T EVEN THINK WHEN MATT AND I CHATTED THE VERY FIRST TIME. WE JUST LOOKING AT IT. WE DIDN'T THINK, OF COURSE, THERE'S GOING TO BE ANYTHING, THIS IS A BIG, LONG PROPERTY. WE'RE NOT EVEN CLOSE. WE DO A LOT OF PROJECTS ON MINNETONKA ALL OVER THE PLACE. THIS IS A SHOCKER TO ME THAT THERE WAS ANY, BECAUSE ESPECIALLY THE OTHER HOUSES ARE SO MUCH CLOSER. I'VE RUN INTO THIS MULTIPLE TIMES. I BROUGHT ACTUALLY ANOTHER DRAWING THAT I WASN'T ABLE TO SUBMIT TO MATT THAT JUST SHOWS LIKE THE OTHER PROPERTIES, AND THEY'RE SO MUCH FARTHER AHEAD. IT'S THAT I JUST, NORMALLY, FOR AN AVERAGE SHORELINE SETBACK. AGAIN, IT'S THE PURPOSE OF IT IS TO STOP THAT SO YOU'RE NOT BUILDING ANYTHING TO IMPEDE ANYONE'S VIEW. WHEN WE ORIGINALLY DID THE DESIGN, THERE WAS NO THOUGHT AT ALL TO THAT. WE THOUGHT WE WERE WELL WITHIN IT. NOW, MATT DID TELL US AND HELPED US OUT BECAUSE ORIGINALLY, I HAD, LIKE, THE STONE WALL OVER THE 75 FOOT SETBACK THERE, AND SO HE CORRECTED US ON THAT, AND WE WORKED THROUGH THAT AND AND TALKED TO BRETT AND MADE THE ADJUSTMENTS RIGHT AWAY FOR THAT, BUT THIS ONE, WE JUST THERE WAS NO THOUGHT THAT WE WEREN'T CERTAINLY WOULDN'T WANT TO GO THROUGH ALL THE TIME. I DID NOT KNOW. >> WHAT'S THE WALL OR THE LINES THAT ARE WITHIN THE 20 FOOT SETBACK? WHERE ARE THEY? IS THAT A RETAINING WALL? >> SMALL LITTLE STONE WALL. WE CAN DO THOSE. I JUST CAN'T BE OF A CERTAIN HEIGHT. >> GOT IT. >> HAVE YOU SEEN HOW MANY OTHER HOMES IN THAT AREA HAVE THIS TYPE OF POOL DECKING AND OUTBUILDING, I GUESS, AN ADDITIONAL BUILDING LIKE THIS REGARDING THE CHARACTER IN THAT AREA? >> I CAN TELL YOU WE'VE DONE A WHOLE BUNCH OF THEM WITH MUCH LARGER POOL HOUSES, MUCH CLOSER TO THE LAKE, BUT I COULDN'T TELL YOU WHAT HAVE ALL THE TOWNS. I'VE BEEN IN MOSPIA FOR 25 YEARS, SO I PUT A LOT OF POOLS AND POOL HOUSES ALL AROUND, BUT I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING THAT'S RELATIVELY CLOSE, I GUESS. I'M RIGHT THERE. >> OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? >> NO. >> THANK YOU. ANYONE CARE TO MAKE A MOTION? LIKE WAS POINTED OUT EARLIER, WE CAN GO ONE OF TWO WAYS, BUT IF WE ARE THINKING ABOUT APPROVING IT, WE HAVE TO RESCIND OUR EARLIER ACTION AND THEN APPROVE OR WE CAN CONFIRM OUR DENIAL. >> I'LL MAKE A MOTION? >> YES. >> A MOTION TO ADOPT THE DENIAL RESOLUTION 7613 AS DRAFTED IN EXHIBIT A. >> THAT'S THE MOTION TO DENY. >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> IS THERE A SECOND OF THAT MOTION? WITH NO SECOND, I THINK THAT MOTION DIES. IS THERE ANY OTHER MOTION THAT ANYONE ELSE WOULD CARE TO MAKE? >> WELL, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE MOVE EXCEPT PUT TOGETHER A RESOLUTION APPROVING THIS VARIANCE BASED UPON THE DESIGN THAT'S BEEN SUBMITTED. >> MR. MAYOR, IF I MAY, IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THAT THERE WAS A [OVERLAPPING] >> WE HAVE TO RESCIND IT FIRST. >> I WOULD ASK THAT. >> A SEPARATE MOTION. >> YEAH. I WOULD ASK IN ORDER OF OPERATION, I'D ASK THAT YOU RESCIND THE PREVIOUS RESOLUTION. >> VOTE ON THAT. >> YEAH, VOTE ON THAT AND THEN THAT CLEARS THE WAY TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE OR DIRECT STAFF. >> THERE TO MAKE THAT MOTION TO RESCIND? IT'S BULLET NUMBER 1. IT'S MOTION TO RESCIND THE AUGUST 11, 2025 OF DENIAL. [00:25:04] >> I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION AS STATED BY SWORN. >> SECOND. >> THE MOVED AND SECOND. IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION? >> I HAVE SOME. I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COUPLE OF POINTS. THERE WEREN'T QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT REPRESENTATIVE, BUT I'M STRUCK BY A COUPLE OF THINGS WITH THIS APPLICATION, AND IT'S THE WORD SHALL, WHICH IS THAT ACCORDING TO STATE STATUTE, VARIANCES SHALL ONLY BE PERMITTED WHEN, AND WE HAVE A LIST OF 12 CRITERIA HERE THAT STAFF HAS GONE THROUGH, AND WE DON'T MEET MORE THAN HALF OF THEM. WE SHALL ONLY PERMIT VARIANCES WHEN THESE CONDITIONS ARE MET, AND THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF CONDITIONS ARE NOT MET ACCORDING TO STAFF'S REPORT. MY REASON FOR NOT SUPPORTING THIS IS THAT I DO BELIEVE. WELL, FIRST OF ALL, EVERY DECISION THAT A GOVERNING BODY IN A CITY MAKES OVER TIME CAN CHANGE THE CHARACTER OF THE CITY. THIS IS ONE OF THESE VARIANCES THAT IS IN MY ESTIMATION, I AGREE WITH STAFF, THERE IS REASONABLE USE OF THE PRIMARY BUILDING ON THIS SITE, VERY REASONABLE USE, AND I DISAGREE WITH THE APPLICANT'S ASSESSMENT THAT THE LAKESHORE IT MAY JOT TOWARDS THE HOME, BUT THAT THERE'S NOT ROOM FOR ANY IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THE BACK OF THE HOME BECAUSE REALLY NICE POOL SCAPE AND PATIOS HAVE BEEN ARE IN THE PROCESS OF BEING CONSTRUCTED. I'M NOT IN AGREEMENT THAT THERE'S NOT REASONABLE USE. THE OTHER ISSUE HERE IS THAT THERE IS ANOTHER AREA. IS THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE THAT IS ABLE TO BE UTILIZED FOR EXTRA, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE HERE, WHETHER IT BE POOL STORAGE OR ENJOYMENT OF THE LOT. I DO BELIEVE THAT OVER TIME, THIS TYPE OF VARIANCE BEING GRANTED FOR AN ACCESSORY BUILDING THAT IS NOT NECESSARY FOR THE ENJOYMENT OF THE HOME, THIS IS SETTING US AS A CITY ON A TRAJECTORY FOR MORE OF THE SAME. I KNOW THAT WHEN IT COMES TO MORE HARD SCAPE, MORE MASSING. LAKE FRONT, IT DOES CHANGE THE CHARACTER OF THE CITY, AND ONE ONLY NEEDS TO GO TO HENNEPIN COUNTY PROPERTY MAPS TO LOOK OVER TIME AT THE CUMULATIVE EFFECT OF MORE MASSING LAKESHORE ON OUR HOMES, ON OUR CITY. I'M STRUCK BY THE FACT THAT WE'RE NOT MEETING THE CRITERIA, AND I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH STAFF ON THIS, AND I WANTED TO MAKE THOSE POINTS BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE. >> THANK YOU. OTHER COMMENTS? >> I'M STILL STRUCK BY THIS ONE BECAUSE THERE ISN'T A HARDSHIP. I KNOW IT'S A NICE ADDITION, AND IT IS REASONABLE TO WANT A POOL CABANA BY THE POOL. WE HAVE ONE PERSON WHO SAID THEY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS, WHO'S TWO HOUSES DOWN, I RECALL. >> YES. >> WE HAVE THESE VARIANCES, HERE FOR A REASON OR THE SETBACKS AND STUFF, AND WE ASKED OUR STAFF TO GIVE US A REASONABLE EXPLANATION OF WHY WE SHOULD OR SHOULDN'T DO THINGS. I'M TORN. I DO UNDERSTAND IT'S PRETTY FAR BACK. A LOT OF THE NEIGHBORS HAVE TO TURN AROUND TO SEE IT. AT THE SAME TIME, ONE PERSON DID SAY THEY HAD A PROBLEM WITH IT, AND IN THE OTHER INSTANCE, WE HAVE STAFF WHO INSTRUCTED US WHY THEY WENT THROUGH ALL THE PROCESSES TO LET US KNOW HOW THEY FELT ABOUT IT, AND THEY SAID THAT THEY WOULD DENY IT. I HAVE A HARD TIME THAT THEY DIDN'T TRY TO CHANGE IT IN ANY WAY, I CAN SEE BECAUSE OF THE SETBACK THAT YOU SAID YOU DIDN'T WANT TO MOVE IT, BECAUSE THAT'S A SECOND VARIANCE. I GUESS I'M STRUGGLING ON THIS ONE. >> OTHER COMMENTS? >> YEAH, I'LL SHARE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS. WHEN I WENT OUT AND VISITED THE PROPERTY, AND I SAW THE LOCATION THAT WAS GOING ON, AND THEN I TOOK A LOOK AT HOW THIS PARTICULAR HOUSE AND HOW THIS PARTICULAR REMODEL CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS TAKING PLACE ON THE PROPERTY AS IT RELATES TO THE HOMES TO THE EAST, AS WELL AS TO THE HOME TO THE WEST. IT LOOKS TO ME TO BE A POOL CABANA THAT WANTS TO BE PLACED BY THE POOL IN AN AREA THAT IS FROM A SIGHTLINE STANDPOINT. DOESN'T SEEM TO CONFLICT WITH THE NEIGHBORS, AND SO WHEN I SAW THIS, AND YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE LAKESHORE SETBACK VERSUS THE AVERAGE LAKESHORE SETBACK, [00:30:05] THE POOL CABANA ISN'T SITTING IN FRONT OF THE POOL, TOWARDS THE LAKE AT ALL, AS FAR OUT AS THEY COULD PUT IT. THEY'VE REALLY PUSHED IT BACK TOWARDS THE HOME. I LOOK AT THIS AS SOMETHING THAT WHILE WE NEED TO BE VERY THOUGHTFUL WHEN WE GRANT VARIANCES. THIS SEEMS TO BE TO BE SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T IMPEDE THE VIEW OR THE VISIBILITY OF THE NEIGHBORS WHATSOEVER, AND I THINK THAT IN ORDER FOR US TO BE A COMMUNITY THAT TRIES TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE REASONABLENESS OF A VARIANCE, THIS SEEMS TO ME TO BE A REASONABLE REQUEST TO PUT A POOL CABANA IN THIS LOCATION, THAT JUST SEEMS TO BE A REASONABLE VARIANCE REQUEST TO ME. >> JOHN YOU WERE GOING TO SPEAK. NO, AND I'D AGREE WITH THAT. I WAS OUT THERE AND LOOKED AT IT TOO. I DON'T THINK IT'S ANYTHING IN MY OPINION ON THAT THAT MAKES IT OUT OF CHARACTER FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR FOR LAKESHORE PROPERTY, SO WITH IT NOT BEING OBTRUSIVE, AND I UNDERSTAND THE ONE LETTER FROM THE NEIGHBOR WHEN THEY'RE LAYING IN BED, BUT AT THE SAME TIME IS THAT'S, TWO DOWN, AND I THINK, TO THE POINT OF NOT THAT I THINK WE NEED TO BE HANDING OUT VARIANCES ALL THE TIME AND LOOKING AT THAT, BUT I THINK THIS IS A VARIANCE THAT I THINK IS REASONABLE, AND IT GIVES A REASONABLE USE OF THE PROPERTY. I LOOK AT IT AS REASONABLE SO THAT'S WHERE I FALL ON THAT, LOOKING AT IT TO BE GOOD. >> THIS IS A TOUGH ONE FOR ME. I THINK THE STAFF DID A GOOD ANALYSIS OF APPLYING THE PRACTICAL DIFFICULTIES. TESTS, AND YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. THEY WRITE DOWN THE LINE, THEY SAID IT DID NOT MEET THOSE TESTS. MY INCLINATION IS TO FOLLOW THAT ANALYSIS. I WOULD SAY THAT WE, AS A COUNCIL, WANT TO FOLLOW OUR ORDINANCES, AND I'M HESITANT TO GO AGAINST STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS TO DENY A VARIANCE. HOWEVER, I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT IN THE CONTEXT OF APPLYING THE AVERAGE LAKESHORE SETBACK RULE TO CONSIDER THE REASON FOR THE RULE, AND THAT IS PROTECTING LAKE VIEWS. TO CONSIDER THE IMPACT OF THE STRUCTURE, ON LAKE VIEWS OF ALL THE NEIGHBORS AND AS HAS BEEN POINTED OUT SEVERAL TIMES, AND AFTER VISITING THE SITE, THERE ARE REALLY NO LAKE VIEWS THAT ARE IMPACTED HERE. SEVERAL MONTHS BACK, WE TALKED THAT THE SUBJECT AT OUR WORK SESSION WAS AVERAGE LAKESHORE SETBACK, AND HOW DIFFICULT IT IS TO APPLY THAT WITH A LAKESHORE THAT GOES LIKE THIS. IN THIS CASE, HAVING THE SERVICE ROAD SET THE WESTWARD BOUNDARY OF THAT ANALYSIS. I GUESS, GOING BACK TO THE REASON FOR THE RULE AND I DO AGREE THAT NO VIEWS ARE HINDERED BY THIS. I'M INTENDING TO SUPPORT THE REQUEST FOR A VARIANCE. >> I'D JUST LIKE TO APPRECIATE ALL THAT STAFF PUT TOGETHER ON THAT TOO, MAYBE. >> ABSOLUTELY. [OVERLAPPING] APPLY THE RULES IN BLACK AND WHITE. THEN IT'S UP TO US TO DECIDE WHETHER THOSE RULES REALLY ARE IMPORTANT HERE OR NOT. I THINK IN THIS CONTEXT, I THINK WE CAN REASONABLY DECIDE THAT THE AVERAGE LAKESHORE SETBACK WHILE IT'S AN IMPORTANT PROTECTION FOR OUR LAKESIDE, HOMEOWNERS, ME BEING ONE OF THEM. I WOULD ZEALOUSLY GUARD MY LAKE VIEWS. I DON'T SEE THAT AS BEING AN ISSUE HERE. >> I WILL SAY ANOTHER ISSUE BECAUSE IT DOES MAKE US APPEAR THAT IF YOU BRING AN ATTORNEY THAT WILL CHANGE YOUR MIND, AND I HATE TO SAY THAT, BUT WE'RE READING THAT. [LAUGHTER] >> DON'T READ THAT PLEASE. >> I DON'T WANT TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE WE'RE DISCRIMINATING AGAINST SOMEONE WHO COMES IN FOR A VARIANCE, AND WE SAY NO, AND THEY DON'T HAVE THE MONEY FOR AN ATTORNEY, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, IT STANDS AS IT IS. I JUST WANT TO BRING THAT UP AS THAT HAS BEEN MENTIONED. >> I THINK THAT IS ANOTHER THING, THAT I CONTINUE TO [00:35:03] LOOK AT EACH OF THESE APPLICATIONS, AS AGAIN, I'VE HAD ENOUGH CONVERSATIONS NOW TO UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THE CHARACTER OF A CITY, THE CHARACTER OF A NEIGHBORHOOD, THE CHARACTER OF LOOKING INLAND FROM THE LAKE. THESE DECISIONS ARE ONES THAT SET PRECEDENT NOW FOR EVERY PERSON THAT COMES FORWARD WITH AN ACCESSORY BUILDING THAT WILL NOW BE ABLE TO MAKE THE CASE POTENTIALLY QUITE WELL, THAT, THAT IS NECESSARY FOR THE ENJOYMENT OF THE PROPERTY. IT'S A CONSIDERATION FOR ALL COUNSEL GOING FORWARD. >> YEAH. I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU THERE IF THIS WAS A VARIANCE FROM ANY OF OUR OTHER RULES, THE 75 FOOT LAKESHORE SETBACK, THE 20 FOOT SIDE SETBACK. IT'S THE ONLY VARIANCE WE'RE GRANTING IS TO THE AVERAGE LAKESHORE SETBACK, WHICH, IN MY OPINION, IS NOT A REASON TO DENY THIS BECAUSE NOBODY'S SIGHT LINES OR NOR WILL THEY BE? ANYWAY, YOU'VE MADE A MOTION AND IT'S BEEN SECONDED ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, AND THE MOTION IS TO RESCIND OUR EARLIER DENIAL OF THIS. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, FURTHER COMMENT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF RESCINDING OUR EARLIER DENIAL, SAY AYE. >> AYE. >> ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN? >> AYE. >> AYE. >> OKAY. MOTION CARRIES THREE TO TWO. DID ANYONE CARE TO MAKE A SECOND MOTION TO DIRECT STAFF TO PREPARE A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE VARIANCE? >> I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION. THE DIRECT STAFF TO PREPARE RESOLUTION APPROVING THE VARIANCE AT THE SELLERS. >> IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION? >> I'LL SECOND. >> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION THAT HASN'T ALREADY OCCURRED. TIED TOGETHER, OBVIOUSLY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE. >> ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME THING. >> AYE. >> AYE. >> MOTION CARRIES THREE TO TWO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU. >> LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 12, [12. Wellhead Protection Plan] THE WELLHEAD PROTECTION PLAN. I WILL ASK MR. EDWARDS OR IS THAT A, THAT'S A PUBLIC WORKS. YES. ALL RIGHT. DJ. >> MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL. WE ARE HERE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT TO GIVE A BRIEF UPDATE ON OUR WELLHEAD PROTECTION PROGRAM, WHICH AFFECTS OUR MUNICIPAL WELL FIELDS. WE HAVE TWO OF THOSE, ONE IN THE SOUTH END OF TOWN AND THE OTHER ONE IN THE NORTH END OF TOWN. THIS IS REQUIRED BY MINNESOTA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH, AS I'VE OUTLINED IN THE PACKET. IT OCCURS EVERY 10 YEARS FORTUNATELY, BUT IT'S A LONG PROCESS INVOLVING LOOKING AT WHAT THE VULNERABILITY IS OF OUR MUNICIPAL WELL SYSTEM. I HAVE ROBIN HUR WITH MINNESOTA RURAL WATER, WHO'S BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN NUMBER OF YEARS, HELPING A LOT OF CITIES THROUGH THIS PROCESS. PART OF THIS PROCESS IS AT THE STATE LEVEL ALL THE WAY DOWN TO LOOKING AT WHAT OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES ARE, AND VULNERABILITIES WITHIN A CERTAIN RADIUS OF OUR WELLS. PROVIDED A BUNCH OF STUFF WITHIN THE PACKET. IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS WITH THAT, THAT HAVE BEEN GENERATED. OTHERWISE, ROBIN IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> HI. COULD I EXPLAIN WHAT MINNESOTA RURAL WATER IS DOING HERE? >> YES, PLEASE. >> MINNESOTA RURAL WATER IS A PUBLIC UTILITY ASSOCIATION, WHICH YOUR CITY IS A VALUED MEMBER OF. THANK YOU FOR THAT. BUT WHAT OUR ASSOCIATION DOES IS WE PROVIDE TRAINING, AND TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE TO PUBLIC WATER SUPPLY SYSTEMS ACROSS THE STATE OF MINNESOTA. FREE OF CHARGE, NO CHARGE TO THE CITIES. MOST OF THE PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE ARE FUNDED THROUGH FEDERAL MONIES, AND MY POSITION IS FUNDED THROUGH THE STATE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, WHO IS THE REGULATORY AUTHORITY FOR THE WELLHEAD PROTECTION PROGRAM. I AM HERE TO HELP FACILITATE AND HELP MR. GOOMAN WITH THE WELL PROTECTION, A PLAN AMENDMENT, AND WE'LL BE WORKING WITH BAR ENGINEERING OVER, I WOULD SAY THE NEXT YEAR, THE PLAN IN FULL IS DUE TO BE SUBMITTED OCTOBER OF 2026, [00:40:04] AND SO WE HAVE A YEAR NOW TO COMPLETE THE LAST PART OF THIS PROCESS. I JUST WANTED TO ASK YOU, DO YOU HAVE THE MAPS IN YOUR PACKET BECAUSE MAYBE I COULD GO QUICKLY OVER WHAT THOSE MAPS DEPICT. >> JUST ONE POINT OF CLARIFICATION. IS IT BAR ENGINEERING OR IS IT BOLTON & MENK OR? >> BAR ENGINEERING WILL BE WORKING ON THE LAST PART OF THAT. >> LAST PART OF THE PLAN, BOLTON & MENK WILL BE LEAD ON IT, HELPING PUT ALL THE PIECES OF THE PUZZLE TOGETHER. >> GOT IT. >> OKAY. >> WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE RIGHT ORGANIZATIONS. >> OKAY. >> THE PROPOSAL TO DO PHASE 2 OR PART 2 OF THE WELLHEAD PROTECTION PLAN IS FROM BOLTON & MENK. >> BOLTON & MENK. ALL RIGHT. PERFECT. YES. THEY DO A GOOD NUMBER OF THESE, SO YOU'RE IN VERY GOOD HANDS. I JUST WANTED TO HAVE YOU LOOK AT YOUR PACKETS AND THE MAPS? THEY'RE UP THERE. PERFECT. I LOVE IT. THIS IS WELLS 1 AND 2. THERE ARE TWO PROTECTION AREAS THAT YOU HAVE. OBVIOUSLY, YOU HAVE TWO WELL FIELDS. WHAT THIS MAP IS SHOWING YOU THE RESULTS OF A GROUNDWATER MODEL THAT HAD INPUT SUCH AS HOW MUCH ARE THE WELLS PUMPING, WHAT DIRECTION IS THE GROUNDWATER FLOWING, AND HOW FAST DOES IT FLOW IN THE AQUIFER THAT THE CITY'S WELLS ARE IN. WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S ANY BOUNDARY THAT WOULD INHIBIT OR CHANGE THE FLOOR GROUND WATER. THEN THE LAST INPUT WOULD BE THE 10 YEAR TIME OF TRAVEL. THAT BLUE LINE THERE DEPICTS WATER FLOWING INTO THE WELLS AS THEY'RE PUMPED AS THEY NORMALLY ARE IN 10 YEARS OUT SO THAT YOU AFFORDED AT LEAST SOME OPPORTUNITY IF SOMETHING HAPPENS WITHIN THAT AREA THAT YOU HAVE SOME REACTION TIME. YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT AREA. THE YELLOW LINE THERE THAT INCLUDES A GOOD PORTION OF LAKE MINNETONKA AS WELL IS JUST SQUARED OFF OF THAT BLUE LINE SO THAT THE PUBLIC CAN SEE THAT AND KNOW WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE WITHIN OR OUTSIDE OF THAT PROTECTION AREA. THAT IS REPEATED FOR WELLS 3 AND 4 IN THE NORTHERN WELL FIELD. THAT THEY LOOK VERY SIMILAR. YEAH. THERE YOU GO. OBVIOUSLY THE SHAPES OF THE BLUE AREA IS GOING TO BE DIFFERENT, BUT SAME CONCEPT WAS USED THERE. THE RED LINE THERE IS ENCIRCLING THE TWO WELLS, IS THE EMERGENCY RESPONSE AREA OR DEPICTING THE ONE YEAR TIME OF TRAVEL. ANYTHING THAT'S HAPPENING WITHIN THAT AREA IS IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ACTIVITIES WITHIN THAT AREA WOULDN'T HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO IMPACT THE CITY'S WELLS. THE SECOND PART OF WHAT WAS JUST DONE THAT'S BEEN COMPLETED IS LOOKING AT THOSE YELLOW BOUNDARY AREAS THEN AND DETERMINING WHAT THE GEOLOGY IS LIKE UNDER THERE, THE SOILS, LOOKING AT THE CITY'S OWN WELLS, AND SEEING WHAT THE POTENTIAL IS THEN FOR THE SUSCEPTIBILITY OF THOSE WELLS TO BE IMPACTED WITH INFILTRATION, EITHER BECAUSE THE WELLS MAYBE HAVE HOLES IN THE CASINGS OR THEY'RE DETECTING SURFACE WATER, WHICH THEY ARE NOT, THANKFULLY, OR THEY WILL LOOK AT THE GEOLOGY TO SEE IF THERE'S SOME LAYER OF GEOLOGY THERE THAT'S PROTECTING THE WELLS OR THE AQUIFER THAT THE WELLS ARE USING FROM INFILTRATION AND THERE IS A GREAT LAYER OF GEOLOGIC PROTECTION OVER THESE TWO AREAS. THE VULNERABILITY IS DETERMINED TO BE LOW, WHICH MEANS THAT INFILTRATION FROM THE GROUND SURFACE TAKES PLACE VERY SLOWLY DECADES TO A CENTURY, IN THIS CASE, WHICH IS GREAT NEWS BECAUSE IN THE SECOND PART OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO THEN, IS LOOKING AT NOT JUST THAT, BUT WHAT ARE THE THINGS WITHIN THOSE AREAS THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED FOR PROTECTING THE DRINKING WATER SOURCE. OTHER WELLS IN THE SAME AQUIFER ARE ONE OF THOSE, BUT IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TOO TO LOOK AT OTHER THINGS THAT MIGHT IMPACT THE DRINKING WATER SUPPLY, LIKE LAND USE PLANNING, AND PLANNING FOR NEW WELL FIELDS IN THE FUTURE. MAINTAINING THE SUSTAINABILITY, THE AQUIFER, SECURITY, THE WELL, ETC. IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY AND THERE ARE MANY GRANTS OUT THERE AT THIS POINT THAT CAN BE USED IF THERE ARE MENTIONS, AND ISSUES RAISED IN WELLHEAD PROTECTION PLANS. I JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT, WHILE DOING THIS, [00:45:01] IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO SET YOURSELF UP TO USE THESE GRANTS TO HELP PROTECT THE DRINKING WATER SUPPLY. AGAIN, AT THE END OF THIS PROCESS NEXT YEAR DOWN THE ROAD, THE PLAN WILL GO OUT FOR A 60 DAY REVIEW AND COMMENT PERIOD ONCE AGAIN TO THE LOCAL UNITS OF GOVERNMENT. THEN THERE WILL BE A REQUIREMENT FOR A PUBLIC HEARING AT THAT TIME. THEN IT WILL BE SUBMITTED TO THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH FOR STATE AGENCY REVIEW AND APPROVAL, WHICH IS ANOTHER 90 PERIOD DAY OR DAYS. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME? >> WHAT ARE THE AGE OF OUR WELLS? DO THEY GO BACK DECADES? >> THE WELLS IN THE SOUTH ARE 1970 VINTAGE. ONE OF THE WELLS HERE IN THE NORTH IS 1990S. ONE IS 2013. '90S OR EARLY 2000. >> EARLY 2000, AND 2022 WE DRILLED THE OTHER ONE? >> NO. WE JUST DID THAT SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE FOR 15. >> AS I LOOK AT THESE YELLOW AREAS, I DOUBT THERE'S ANY OTHER WELLS WITHIN THERE. THOSE ARE AREAS THAT ARE COVERED BY OUR WATER BY LARGE. >> THE CITY OF LONG LAKE HAS A WELL WITHIN OURS. >> WELL THEY DO. OKAY. >> THERE WITHIN THEIRS. THEN THERE ARE SOME PRIVATE. [OVERLAPPING] THERE ARE PRIVATE WELLS IN BOTH AREAS. PRIVATE WELLS THOUGH TEND TO BE MUCH SHALLOWER THAN DIFFERENT AQUIFER. >> HOW FAR DOWN DO THESE GO? >> WELL NUMBER 4 IS 800 FEET. WE'RE QUITE DEEP. WELLS DOWN SOUTH ARE FIVE TO 600, IT DEPENDS ON WHERE THE AQUIFER IS AND WHERE THE GOOD WATER IS. WHERE THAT UNDERLYING AQUIFER, IT'S NOT STEADY ALL THE WAY ACROSS UNDERGROUND AND THERE'S PEAKS AND VALLEYS TO IT. >> YOU'RE USING A FEW DIFFERENT AQUIFERS AS WELL WITH THE TWO WELL FIELDS. >> YEAH. >> WHAT KIND OF QUALITY IS THE WATER COMING OUT? DO WE HAVE TO DO A LOT OF FILTRATION WITH OUR WATER OR IS IT? >> DOWN SOUTH, WE FILTER TO REMOVE IRON AND MAGNES, AND THEN WE ALSO SOFTEN THE WATER. THEN CHLORINE FLOOR BACTERIA AND FLUORIDE, WHICH ARE BOTH STATE MANDATED. UP NORTH, IN THE NORTH FIELD, ALL THAT WE'RE DOING IS CHLORINE AND FLUORIDE WITH SOME PHOSPHATE FOR CORROSION. >> OKAY. >> WE'RE FORTUNATE THAT WAY. WE HAVE BEEN RECENTLY TESTED FOR PFOS. THE FEVER CHEMICAL, AS IT'S REFERRED TO IN THE METRO AREA. FORTUNATELY, WE DO NOT HAVE THAT CURRENTLY. CITY MINNETONKA BEACH DOES. >> THEY DO, RIGHT NEXT TO US. >> YEAH. RIGHT NEXT TO US. THAT'S WHAT IS CONCERNS US A LITTLE BIT. THEN ALSO WITH SPRING PARK WITH THEIR WELL FIELD. THEY HAVE A TRICHLOROETHYLENE, WHICH IS A PAINT SOLVENT THAT WAS IDENTIFIED A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO. FORTUNATELY, THAT'S DRAWN AWAY FROM OUR WELL SYSTEM, AND MINNETONKA BEACH IS THE SAME CURRENTLY, BUT WE ARE SEEING SOME HIGH LEVELS OF ARSENIC UP IN THE NORTH WELL FIELD, AND WE'RE CONTROLLING THAT CURRENTLY BY OUR PUMPING RATES. BUT DOWN THE ROAD, IT MIGHT BE A POTENTIAL FOR SOME ADDITIONAL TREATMENT OR EXPANSION OR THAT THING. BUT WE'RE ALWAYS FROM THAT FOR RATE. >> HOW OFTEN ARE WE TESTING THE QUALITY OF THE WATER? IS IT JUST EVERY MONTH SORT OF THING. >> THE WATER IS TESTED DAILY. >> DAILY? >> THEN WE HAVE A MONTHLY TEST THAT WE SEND IN TO THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. THEN WE HAVE QUARTERLY TESTING THAT IS ON A CYCLE. WE TEST FOR NITRATES AND RADON AND JUST TO NAME A FEW. THOSE ARE ON A CYCLE THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. WE JUST SENT SOME SAMPLING AND TODAY, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW OF OUR LEAD AND COPPER SAMPLING. WE HAVE TO DO 10 SAMPLES BASED ON THE POPULATION AND THE AREA SERVED, AND IT'S TESTING MAINLY THE PIPING AND THE LEAD SOLDER INSIDE THE HOMES. IT'S NOT COMMERCIAL. THAT'S MORE RESIDENTIAL. WE ARE HEAVILY REGULATED. BOTH ONE AS OPERATORS, AND TWO AS A CITY. THE DRINKING WATER, DRINKING BOTTLES. THEY CAN SIT ON A SHELF FOR MONTHS, [00:50:01] YEARS, POTENTIALLY, AND THEY'RE IN PLASTIC. THEY'RE WE'RE SENDING STUFF IN DAILY. WE'RE GRABBING SAMPLES AS RESIDENTS CALL US WITH CONCERNS. WE WILL GO DO A GRAB SAMPLE FROM THEIR RESIDENTS AND CHECK THAT AGAINST WHAT OUR TESTING LEVELS ARE AT OUR TREATMENT FACILITIES. >> THE QUESTION ABOUT THAT. HOW WOULD A RESIDENT HAVE A CONCERN? WHAT WOULD PROMPT THEM TO CALL THE CITY AND ASK FOR A TEST. >> TASTE OR ODOR WITHIN THE SYSTEM. IF THEY'RE EXPERIENCING A RUST CONDITION, IF THEY SEE SOMETHING IN THE NEWS MEDIA OR OUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA, THEY WILL CALL AND CONCERN AND ASK CONCERN. WE HAVE A CONSUMER CONFIDENCE REPORT THAT WE ARE REQUIRED TO POST ANNUALLY OUT ON THE CITY WEBSITE THAT GIVES THE PARTICULARS OF WHAT WE'VE TESTED FOR WITHIN THAT LAST CALENDAR YEAR, AND THE PARAMETERS OF THAT. THEN WE HAVE OUR BACKUP REPORTS THAT WE GET FROM THE STATE THAT WE HAVE TO KEEP ON FILE FOR SO MANY YEARS, AND WE CAN NARROW IN ON AN AREA IF THERE IS A CONCERN. MOST OF THE TIME, WE FIND THAT IT'S SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE INTERNAL PIPING. HOT WATER HEATERS, RESIDENTS HAD A PARTY OR GET TOGETHER, AND THEY'VE HAD A LARGER WATER USE WITHIN THE HOME, AND THAT WILL DISRUPT THE SYSTEM A LITTLE BIT. THE WATER SOFTENERS RUN MORE OFTEN OR YOU KNOW, IRRIGATION THAT THING. >> THANKS FOR KEEPING A CLOSE EYE ON IT I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME PUBLICIZED ISSUES WITH MOUNDS WATER MOSTLY BECAUSE OF THEIR PIPING, WOULD YOU SAY, OR IS THAT? >> PARTIALLY THEY'RE PIPING, PARTIALLY THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE, PARTIALLY THEIR GROUNDWATER. THERE'S NO ONE SMOKING GUN OVER THERE. THEY'VE BEEN ASKING FOR FEDERAL FUNDING AND STATE FUNDING FOR A LONG TIME. WE HAVE THE ANIMALS, THE PROJECT PRIORITY LIST WITH THE STATE OF MINNESOTA. THEY'VE BEEN ON THAT FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. WE'RE CURRENTLY ON IT. FOR THE NORTH WATER TREATMENT PLANT OR SOME POTENTIAL UPGRADES DOWN THE ROAD BECAUSE IT IS COSTLY. TONKA BEACHES SYSTEM AS AN EXAMPLE IS I WANT TO SAY $10 MILLION IN THAT GENERAL RANGE, AND SO WAS MOUNDS. >> MOUNDS IS, I THINK, 30 TO 50. >> YEAH. I THINK THAT'S. >> IT'S IT'S AN EXPENSIVE OPERATION THAT THE MUNICIPAL SYSTEMS RUN. >> OTHER QUESTIONS. I KNOW WE'VE GOT A RESOLUTION IN OUR PACKETS. LET ME GET TO THAT. >> THANK YOU. >> DOES ANYBODY CARE TO MAKE A MOTION TO PROCEED AND AUTHORIZE BOLTON AND MENK TO WORK WITH CITY STAFF AND CONSULTANTS TO COMPLETE PART TWO OF THE WILHEAD PROTECTION PLAN, AT A COST OF 31,690, WHICH IS THEIR BID. >> I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION. >> IS THERE A SECOND? >> I SECOND. >> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> AYE. >> ALL THOSE OPPOSED THE SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. WE'LL MOVE ON TO A LEASE AND EASEMENT WITH MIDCO, TWO RESOLUTIONS. [13. Lease & Easement - Utilities/Midco - Resolutions 7615 and 7616] ARE YOU GOING TO GIVE US BACKGROUND ON THAT? >> A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON IT. LAST YEAR, 2024, THE CITY WAS APPROACHED BY MIDCO FIBER OPTIC OUT OF SOUTH DAKOTA TO DO CITYWIDE FIBER OPTIC CABLE SERVICE TO THE CITY. RIGHT NOW, IT'S MAINLY MEDIACAM, AND THEN SOME OF THE TELEPHONE SERVICES. WE'RE IN YEAR ONE OF THE BUILDOUT. IT IS A THREE YEAR BUILDOUT. THEY STARTED ON THE WEST END OF THE CITY, NORTHWEST END OF THE CITY, AND THEY'RE WORKING THEIR WAY THROUGH. THEY WILL SHUT DOWN HERE FIRST PART OF NOVEMBER FOR THE SEASON AND THEN START BACK UP. THEY ARE ALSO INSTALLING IN MINNETRISTA, CITY OF MOUND AND ALSO LONG LAKE AND PART OF THIS LEASE AGREEMENT THAT'S BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IN ORDER TO SEND THAT SIGNAL OUT TO THE RESIDENTS AND OUT TO THE CUSTOMERS, THEY NEED A CENTRALIZED LOCATION IN ORDER TO DO THAT. [00:55:06] THEY REACHED OUT TO US LAST DECEMBER. THAT'S HOW LONG WE'VE BEEN WORKING THROUGH THIS LEASE PROCESS, AND WE'LL SHUT OUT TO SORN AND STAFF, BEEN WORKING THROUGH ALL THE LEGAL ASPECTS OF THE DOCUMENTS AND ALL THAT. THEY'VE BEEN VERY HELPFUL AND BENEFICIAL THAT WAY. WHAT THIS IS, IS IT'S A PERMANENT STRUCTURE THAT WOULD BE MOUNTED ON THAT CONCRETE PAD BACK BY OUR NORTH WATER TOWER AND THERE'S A AGREEMENT, MONIES THAT WE GET FROM THAT. SHOULD BE NOTED THAT IT WILL NOT AFFECT ANY OF OUR CITY OPERATION. WHERE THAT BUILDING IS GOING TO BE LOCATED AND THAT SORT OF THING. THERE ARE SOME CONDITIONS WITH THAT. THERE ARE SOME RIDERS WITH THAT THAT SOME INCREASES IN THE RENT AND THAT SORT OF THING. SIMILAR TO WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER IN THE WORK STUDY SESSION, THERE'S SOME AUTOMATIC RENEWALS IN THERE UNLESS THE CITY OR MIDCO ENTER INTO A DIFFERENT AGREEMENT. VERY UNOBTRUSIVE. IT'S A SECURED BUILDING SECURITY AREA. THE EASEMENT AREAS THAT WE WERE IN REFERENCE ARE FOR ACCESS, AND ALSO FOR THEIR BRINGING THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IN AND OUT OF THAT BUILDING. SO VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'VE HAD TO DO IN THE PAST WITH THE TELECOMMUNICATION COMPANIES, T-MOBILES, AND ALL THAT. IF THERE'S NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. >> WITH THOSE OTHER UTILITIES, ARE THERE BUILDINGS LIKE THIS OR ARE THEY TYPICALLY ON THE TOP OF A TOWER OR? THEY ARE TYPICAL ON TOP OF A TOWER. WE DID HAVE, IN FACT, THE STRUCTURE IS STILL BACK THERE RIGHT NOW, AS THEY'VE UPGRADED TO 5G AND ALL THAT. SOME OF THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IS NO LONGER NEEDED BECAUSE THEY DO A DIFFERENT PROCESS. SO WE ANTICIPATE THAT DOWN THE ROAD, THAT THIS MIGHT BE A SIMILAR INCIDENT, 10, 15, 20 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, THAT AS YOU'VE SEEN WITH CELL PHONES AND ALL THAT, THE TECHNOLOGY IS CHANGING SO FAST THAT THEY MAY NO LONGER NEED SOME OF THAT. >> YOU CAN ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, MARY ASKED MOST OF THE TELECOMS, WHERE THERE'S GROUND MOUNT STUFF TO SUPPORT IT. WE HAVE A BACKUP GENERATOR DOWN IN NAVAL, WE HAVE OUR OWN BACKUP GENERATOR FOR THE WATER PLANT. IF YOU LOOK BEHIND THE TOWER THERE, YOU'LL SEE BACKUP GENERATOR AND SWITCHING GEAR AND STUFF THAT IS THERE TO SUPPORT AT&T. >> AT&T AND. >> WE HAD THE SAME MOVE ON RISING UP HERE ON OUR NORTH WATER TOWER FOR A WHILE. IT'S VERY, VERY SIMILAR EXCEPT OBVIOUSLY BEING A FIBER OPTIC COMPANY. THEIR STUFF IS UNDERGROUND INSTEAD OF ON TOP OF THE TOWER. >> THIS IS ONE OF TWO COMPANIES THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH. WE WERE JUST APPROACH HERE LAST WEEK WITH I FORGET THE NAME OF IT, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE OVER ON THE EAST END OF TOWN. THEY'RE DOING A FIBER BUILD OUT. >> THEY'RE FIBER? YEAH. WY ZETA AND PLYMOUTH AREA OFF OF FERNDALE, AND THEY WANT TO INCORPORATE THAT CHEVY CHASE AND FERNDALE ON THE ORONO SIDE. FRONTIER COMMUNICATIONS HAS ALSO REACHED OUT. THEY'RE MORE CABLE BASED RIGHT NOW. THEY'RE BRANCHING OUT FROM JUST TELEPHONE. UNFORTUNATELY, FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN EXPERIENCING SOME OF THIS INSTALL THIS SUMMER. SAME COMPANIES WANT TO COME IN THAT SAME AREA. >> IT WOULD BE NICE IF THEY COULD ALL DO IT AT ONCE, OR. >> DO IT AT ONCE OR PROVIDE A BIGGER. >> COOPERATION, THAT'S PROBABLY NOT POSSIBLE. >> NO. UNFORTUNATELY. IT'S A WAVE OF A FUTURE. EVERYBODY HAS THE TECHNOLOGY. EVERYBODY'S STREAMING STUFF FASTER. IT'S ANOTHER OPTION. RESIDENTS ARE NOT REQUIRED TO GO WITH MIDCO. IT'S JUST ANOTHER OPTION TO CONSIDER. THE ONE NICE THING ABOUT IT IS THAT IT'S GOING TO BE CITYWIDE. HOPEFULLY, WITHIN THREE YEARS, THEY RAN INTO A LITTLE BIT OF A SNAG WITH A COUPLE OF THEIR SUBCONTRACTORS THAT WERE DOING SOME OF THE INSTALLS THIS SUMMER. THEY HOPE TO MAKE SOME OF THAT TIME UP. THEY'RE FEELING THE PINCH ON THE CUSTOMER SIDE OF IT. THEY NEED THIS BUILDING IN ORDER TO START PUSHING SERVICE OUT AND EXPAND IT EVEN FASTER. >> WILL THIS BUILDING JUST SERVE ORONO, OR WILL IT ALSO SERVE LONG LAKE? >> IT'LL ALSO SERVE LONG LAKE. I DON'T HAVEN'T GOTTEN THE FULL RANGE OF WHAT THEY HAVE ANOTHER BUILDING OUT IN VICTORIA. [01:00:09] I KNOW THEY'RE NOT PUTTING ONE UP IN MOUND, BUT THEY'RE DOING THE MOUND BUILD OUT RIGHT NOW. SO IT'LL BE A REGIONAL, A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A REGIONAL HUB FOR THEM. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR PJ? >> IS THIS AREA, I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THE MAP FOR IT. IS THIS NEAR RIGHT OF WAY OR WHERE IS EXACTLY IS THIS LOCATED? >> THIS IS GOING TO BE. THIS BUILDING WILL BE PLACED JUST TO THE EAST OF THE NORTH WATER TOWER WITHIN EXISTING, AND I THINK WE HAVE A MAP THAT SHOWS TO THE EAST OF THE WATER TOWER AND NORTH OF THE EXISTING SALT STORAGE SHED. >> IS THE LAND AROUND THERE CURRENTLY. IT'S NOT DEVELOPED IN ANY WAY. >> NO, IT'S ALL CITY PROPERTY AND IT'S THE AREA THAT IS CURRENTLY HISTORICALLY BEEN USED AS GENERAL STORAGE OR SUPPLIES AND OUTDOOR STORAGE MATERIALS. >> WHAT'S THAT? BEEN USED FOR OUTDOOR STORAGE? >> YES. OUTDOOR STORAGE AREA. >> SO IS THERE LANDSCAPE THERE CURRENTLY? >> NO. IT'S ALL GRAVEL. GRAVEL AND LANDSCAPE, ROUGH LANDSCAPE, NOTHING THAT'S JUST TALL GRASSES AND ALL THAT, SO AND TREES. >> IS THIS THE AREA BEHIND THE CELL SHED? >> YES. >> ADAM'S GOT THE MAP PULLED UP NOW. ABOUT RIGHT WHERE THIS POINTER IS, JUST NORTH OF THAT IS WHERE THEY'RE PROPOSING TO PUT THE FACILITY. >> DO YOU HAVE OTHER USE EARMARKED FOR THAT SPACE INSTEAD OF PLANNING WITH THEM? >> NO. WE DID LOOK AT THE OVERALL PLACEMENT IN REGARDS TO THE MAINTENANCE OF OUR WATER TOWER. OCCASIONALLY, THE WATER TOWER HAS TO BE CLEANED AND INSPECTED. THEN WHEN THE WATER TOWER DOES NEED A THOROUGH INSPECTION OR REPAINTING, IT WILL FALL OUTSIDE OF THAT FOOTPRINT. THERE'S SOME LANGUAGE WITHIN THE LEASE AGREEMENT THAT TALKS ABOUT NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY DAMAGE TO THAT STRUCTURE. THERE IS CURRENT UTILITIES, WATER AND ELECTRIC THAT GO THROUGH THAT GENERAL AREA, SO WE'LL ENCOMPASS SOME OF THOSE EASEMENT AREAS. THERE'S ALREADY EASEMENTS IN PLACE FOR ENTRANCE AND EGRESS FOR THE OTHER TELECOMMUNICATION COMPANIES THAT ARE ON THE WATER TOWER. >> SO THAT'S NOT ANYWHERE NEAR THAT WET AREA THERE? >> NO, IT'S NORTH OF THE WET AREA. IT'S NORTH OF THE WETLAND AREA. SO WETLAND AREAS SOUTH OF THE WATER TOWER. >> ADAM, CAN YOU WOULD YOU JUST BRING THE CURSOR BACK AND JUST GIVE A GENERAL ROUGH AREA OF THE SIZE OF THAT BUILDING WITH THE CURSOR? WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT HERE IN TERMS OF THE SIZE? >> THEY ARE PROPOSING A 16 BY 30 FOOT WITH A SEVEN FOOT CONCRETE STOOP AROUND IT SO THEY'RE NOT WALKING THROUGH MUD AND ALL THAT, AND FOR GENERAL MAINTENANCE OF SNOW REMOVAL AND GENERAL ACCESS. >> OTHER QUESTIONS? >> LOOKS LIKE WE NEED TO PASS TWO RESOLUTIONS, ONE FOR THE SITE LEASE AND ONE FOR UTILITY AND ACCESS EASEMENTS. ANYBODY CARE TO MAKE A MOTION ON ONE OR BOTH OF THEM? I GUESS WE'LL DO ONE AT A TIME. >> I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE PASS RESOLUTION 7615 AS PRESENTED. >> THE SECOND TO THAT? >> I SECOND. >> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? >> I HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION. IT JUST OCCURRED TO ME ONLY BECAUSE I'M THINKING A LOT ABOUT RIGHT OF WAY AND EASEMENTS LATELY. IS THIS WITH THE GRANTING OF THIS TYPE OF EASEMENT, DOES THE CITY HAVE ANY ABILITY, SINCE WE'RE CREATING ANOTHER STRUCTURE HERE, ESSENTIALLY IN THE CITY FOR THIS COMPANY TO MITIGATE OR PUT ANY TYPE OF PLANTINGS IN THE CITY IN A DIFFERENT AREA TO OFFSET THIS OR AROUND THAT AREA. IS THAT SOMETHING I JUST I QUESTION NOT THE PROCESS HERE, BUT WHAT OUR CITY CAN DO IN CONVERSATION AROUND THIS TYPE OF ARRANGEMENT WHEN WE GRANT AN EASEMENT FOR THIS TYPE OF? >> TYPICALLY, YOU WOULDN'T NECESSARILY ADDRESS PLANTINGS OR OBLIGATIONS LIKE THAT, IN MY OPINION, IN THE EASEMENT THAT WOULD BE MORE TERM AND CONDITION OF A LEASE. IN TERMS OF, HEY, HERE'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO FOR THE UPKEEP. I WOULD SAY, HISTORICALLY, GIVEN THE ENVIRONMENT THAT YOU'RE IN AND AROUND THERE IN TERMS OF BEAUTIFICATION, [01:05:02] NOBODY IS INTO THING. >> WE HAVE DONE THAT ANOTHER PLACE LIKE THE NAVAR ONE BECAUSE IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO A PARK. SO WE WIRED THEM TO PUT PRIVACY SCREENING, FENCING AND LIKE THAT AROUND IT. BUT NOT HERE BECAUSE IT'S NOWHERE NEAR ANYTHING. >> I HAD LESS TO DO I'M AWARE OF THAT. I HAD LESS TO DO WITH THE BEAUTIFICATION, MORE TO DO WITH THAT. AGAIN WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT CONSERVATION, ALL THESE THINGS AND EVERY BIT COUNTS, AND I WAS JUST CURIOUS ABOUT HOW WE HANDLE THESE SITUATIONS. IF IT'S NOT FRONT FACING, ARE WE STILL DOING ANYTHING THROUGH THIS PROCESS? >> NO. ONE OF THE THINGS WE DO LOOK AT IS JUST THE IMPACTS OF IT. IF IT ISN'T BEAUTIFICATION, BECAUSE IT'S FRONT FACING, THEN IT'S NEXT TO A WETLAND. YOU'RE ADDING HARD COVER. WE UNDERSTAND THAT. WHAT ARE WE DOING TO MINIMIZE IT? IS THERE ANY BUFFER NECESSARY, THINGS OF THAT NATURE? IF IT'S NOT NECESSARY, WE DON'T ADD THAT IRON, JUST FOR THE SAKE OF ADDING IT ON, AND HERE THERE WASN'T A PERCEIVED NEED TO ADD THOSE KIND OF AMENITIES, SO IT'S SOMETHING WE EXAMINE. IT'S ABSENCE DOESN'T MEAN IT WASN'T LOOKED AT. I JUST MEANT IT WAS DECIDED, IT WASN'T REQUIRED. >> GOOD TO KNOW. >> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING RESOLUTION 76 15, SAY AYE. >> AYE. >> ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. ANYBODY CARE TO MAKE A RESOLUTION AS TO A MOTION AS TO ADOPTING RESOLUTION 76. >> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION OF 76 16, APPROVING THE GRANT OF ACCESS EASEMENT AND GRANT OF UTILITY EASEMENTS. >> IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT? >> I'LL SECOND. >> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION. HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> AYE. >> ALL THOSE OPPOSED THE SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. THEN WE CAN GET TO NEW ITEM 14. [Additional Item] THANK YOU, D. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING. >> I DID AND I DO. >> YES. THIS REGARDS THE SEPTEMBER 20 FALL CLEANUP AT PUBLIC WORKS. SOMETHING THAT I ACTUALLY DID IN THE PAST AND THAT WE HAVEN'T REALLY DISCUSSED WHEN I WAS ON PARKS ACTUALLY WAS HANDING OUT FREE SEED PACKETS TO RESIDENTS WHO CAME TO DONATE ITEMS OR TO BE PART OF THIS CLEAN UP. IT OCCURRED TO ME THAT WHEN WE'VE GOT FOLKS COMING IN FROM ALL OVER THE PLACE TO CITY OF ORONO TO DELIVER THEIR RECYCLABLES AND SUCH, TO PUBLIC WORKS, IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ENGAGEMENT, AND IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME FESTIVAL AROUND A CLEANUP DAY NECESSARILY, BUT TO GIVE A BIT OF HISTORY HERE, OTHER CITIES ABSOLUTELY PARTNER. WE'VE HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT TREE SALES, TREE GIVEAWAYS LATELY, AND OTHER CITIES PARTNER ON THESE INITIATIVES TO ENGAGE OF THE PUBLIC AND TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY THERE TO CONNECT. IN THIS CASE, WE'VE PASSED THE MAYOR'S MONARCH PLEDGE RECENTLY, AND ONE OF THE ACTION ITEMS IN THIS PLAN IS TO HOST OR SUPPORT A NATIVE CEDAR PLANT SALE GIVEAWAY OR SWAP. THREE YEARS AGO, I TALKED TO CITY OF MEDINA, WHO DOES ANNUAL CLEANUP DAY THEY HAND OUT AT THAT SEED PACKETS FROM SAVE OUR MONARCHS, I BELIEVE IT IS, OR SOME SUCH IT'S A LOCAL ORGANIZATION AND NONPROFIT IN MINNESOTA THAT THEY'VE PARTNERED WITH. THEY ACTUALLY FUND IT AND WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FUNDING, IT'S ALL OF $250 FOR 500 SEED PACKETS. MEDINA FUNDS IT OUT OF STORM WATER SO THEY ACCOUNT FOR THIS AND THEIR BUDGETING AS A TOUCH POINT WITH RESIDENTS. IT'S ALSO AN ALIGNMENT NOW. I KNOW WHEN I TALKED WITH STAFF WHEN I WAS ON PARKS COMMISSION, WE DIDN'T HAVE A PROGRAM. I KNOW AT THE TIME STAFF'S COMMENT WAS, WE CAN HAND OUT SEEDS, BUT REALLY A BETTER PROCESS IS TO ALIGN IT WITH PROGRAMMING OR WITH A RESOLUTION THAT THE CITY'S MADE, WHICH WE NOW HAVE DONE. IT'S NOT AN EFFORT TO COMPLICATE THINGS BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S A WELL WORN SYSTEM BUT LAST YEAR, ANYWAY, WHEN I WENT TO DONATE THINGS, IT WAS A VERY FRIENDLY AND ORGANIZED PROCESS WITH LOTS OF STAFF AND I THINK MY THOUGHT WAS THAT IF COUNSEL'S AMENABLE, THAT WE COULD HAVE SEEDS AVAILABLE AS A PREVIEW OF EVENTS TO COME NEXT SPRING WITH OUR PLANNINGS HERE AT CITY HALL AND BEYOND AND BE ABLE TO CONTACT THIS ORGANIZATION TO PURCHASE SOME SEEDS. I DON'T KNOW THE COUNT. HOW MANY FOLKS CAME THROUGH LAST YEAR WAS- >> WE AVERAGE IN THE SPRING ABOUT 300-400, DEPEND. IT'S PARTIALLY WEATHER DEPENDENT. IN THE FALL, WE'VE BEEN AS LOW AS AROUND 100, BUT WE'VE BEEN AVERAGING TWO TO 300 IN THE FALL EVENT ALSO. >> WELL, LAST I CHECKED IT WAS $55 FOR 100 PACKETS OF SEED, SO I DON'T WANT TO BREAK THE BUDGET HERE. I JUST WANTED TO BRING IT UP AS AN IMPULSE THAT I KNOW I HAD WHEN I WAS SERVING ON PARKS TO ELEVATE WHAT WE'RE DOING IN ORONO AND TO ALSO LOOK TO OTHER CITIES FOR INSPIRATION, [01:10:02] AND THERE'S DEFINITELY A PATH ALREADY BEEN SET HERE. THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO BRING UP. NOT TO BURDEN STAFF, IF YOU NEED A VOLUNTEER TO HAND OUT SEED PACKETS SO THAT STAFF IS NOT. >> ARE YOU OFFERING TO VOLUNTEER? >> I AM. [LAUGHTER] BECAUSE I WOULD NEVER PUT FORTH A PROGRAM THAT I WAS NOT WILLING TO SUPPORT. >> GREAT IDEA. >> YOU TELL ME WHERE AND WHEN AND I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO IT. IF THAT'S SOMETHING STAFF COULD LOOK INTO, I KNOW, THEY'RE AVAILABLE FOR ORDER, OR IF THERE'S A DIFFERENT SUPPLIER OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE. I JUST WANT TO CHECK IN WITH COUNSEL ON THAT AND TO SEE IF THERE WAS A SUPPORT. >> THANKS FOR THE GREAT IDEA. >> I LOVE THE IDEA. >> ANYBODY ELSE? AS AN OBJECTION TO IT, CERTAINLY. COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. ONE IS THAT DROP OFF IS AVAILABLE TO NOT ONLY ORONO RESIDENTS, BUT LONG LAKE, MINTAKA B ISSUANCE PARK PARK. ARE WE GOING TO DISCRIMINATE BETWEEN ORONO CITIZENS AND ANYBODY ELSE, OR IS IT JUST HEADED OFF TO THE FIRST- >> SAY THE ECOSYSTEM PROBABLY WOULDN'T MIND IF WE DID NOT DISCRIMINATE. [LAUGHTER] >> THE QUESTION IS HANDING THEM OUT IN THE FALL, IS THAT THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO PLANT, OR IS IT MORE IN THE SPRING? >> IT CAN BE BECAUSE I KNOW THAT SOME OF THESE SEEDS REQUIRE THAT STRATIFICATION OVER WINTER IN ORDER TO SOW, BUT THERE'S ALSO DIRECTIONS, AT LEAST ON THESE SEED PACKETS FOR EITHER FALL PLANTING OR SPRING, DEPENDING ON PEOPLE HOW THEY WANT TO DO IT. THEY CAN TUCK IT AWAY IF IT'S NOT THE RIGHT TIME. I THINK THE IDEA WAS TO BUILD ON A PROCESS HERE AND REALLY IN PARTNERSHIP OF LOOKING AT THIS MONARCHS PLEDGE WHEN I REALIZED THAT THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM. I THOUGHT THAT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY AND APOLOGIES FOR BRINGING THIS TO STAFF LATE. WOULD YOU THINK- [OVERLAPPING] >> WE HAVE SOME TIME. WE HAVE A WEEK AND A HALF, SO MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE YOU AND I CAN TALK OFFLINE, POSSIBLY TOMORROW OR WEDNESDAY. I KNOW COMMUNICATIONS COORDINATOR IS IN ATTENDANCE. RACHAEL WILL BE THERE ALREADY ON SATURDAY MORNING, DOING AS THE RESIDENTS PULL OUT OF THE AREA OFF TO THE SIDE, DOING A LITTLE INFORMAL SURVEY, AND I THINK WOULD BE THE PRIMARY OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO INCORPORATE SOMETHING. IT'S NOT AS WE'VE TALKED, AFFECTING THAT OVERALL FLOW, AS YOU GUYS HAVE ALL SEEN AND MENTIONED, THAT OUR GOAL IS TO GET THE RESIDENTS IN AND OUT THERE AS FAST AS WE CAN, SO THAT THEY'RE NOT WAITING. WE TRIED TO DO A LITTLE BIT BETTER MODEL THAN WHAT SOME OF THE FAST FOOD RESTAURANTS DO SO, BUT THAT'S PARTIALLY ON OUR STAFF AND ON HOW WELL WE HAVE IT ORGANIZED. NOW THAT WE DO HAVE A LITTLE BIGGER SPACE TO USE, WE DO HAVE THAT CAPABILITY, WHERE AS YOU EXPERIENCED IN YEARS PAST WHEN WERE IN THE OLD BUILDING, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF SPACE THERE'D BE ABLE TO PULL VEHICLES OFF TO THE SIDE AND HAVE A LITTLE MORE INTERACTION WITH THEM. BUT I THINK WE CAN INCORPORATE SOMETHING THIS FALL YET. >> KEEP CONVERSATION TO A MINIMUM. DON'T HOLD UP THE LINE. >> WE NEED A RESOLUTION ON THIS, OR CAN WE FIND FUNDS IN THE BUDGET FOR. >> IN THE SCOPE OF $55 OR SO WE FIND FUNDS. >> WE DON'T NEED A FORMAL. >> HOW MANY SEATS PACKETS DID $55? >> HUNDRED PACKETS FOR 55, AND IT GOES UP FROM THERE, BUT 500 PACKETS IS ABOUT $250. DEPENDING AGAIN ON WHAT YOU MIGHT ANTICIPATE IN TERMS OF THE COUNT. >> IT ALL VARIES, BUT ON AVERAGE, AND I KNOW WE PRESENTED ON IT LAST FALL WHEN WE WERE LOOKING CONTINUING TO HOST THE FALL EVENT. WE WERE ACTUALLY SURPRISED WHEN WE PUT PENCIL TO PAPER AND LOOKED AT IT, THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT WE WERE ACTUALLY GETTING. BUT THAT WAS WHEN WE HAD IT IN OCTOBER. WE'VE NOW MOVED IT UP TO SEPTEMBER, THE WEATHER'S A LITTLE BIT BETTER AND ALL THAT SO THERE'S MORE PARTICIPATION. >> IT WAS A REALLY POSITIVE RESPONSE WHEN I DID IT THE FIRST IS. >> IT KEEPS THEM OUT OF THE DITCHES. THAT'S WHERE WE'VE SEEN THE BIGGEST IMPACT IS WE DON'T HAVE THOSE TIRES AND AND THE SCRAP METAL AND THE CONSTRUCTION DEBRIS. WE STILL GET IT. IT'S STILL DUMPED, BUT NOT TO THE DEGREE THAT IT HAS BEEN IN YEARS PAST. >> GREAT. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP. >> IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE GET COMMUNICATION ON AS PART OF THE EVENT OR AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW? >> A LOT OF THE PRE STUFF IS ALREADY READY OUTPUT AS FAR AS COVERING COVERAGE OF THE EVENT AFTERWARDS, ABSOLUTELY. WE STILL BLAST SOME THINGS ONLINE, BUT ALL THAT'S ALREADY OUTPUT, IN THE MODES OF MEDIA THAT WE HAVE STILL AVAILABLE TO US IN A WEEK AND A HALF? >> YES. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU AGAIN. ATTORNEY REPORT. [01:15:02] ANYTHING FOR US, MR. MAYOR? >> MR. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNSEL, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FOR TONIGHT. >> ANY ADMINISTRATIVE ENGINEER REPORT? [City Administrator/Engineer Report] >> MR. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNSEL, JUST OUR ROAD PROJECTS CONTINUE. WE'RE STARTING TO CLOSE THEM UP, THOUGH, SO THEY'RE MOVING ALONG. ALSO JUST WANTED TO NOTE. I DID PUT IT IN MY UPDATE, BUT WE DID HAVE RESIDENTS REACH OUT OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS ABOUT PROVIDING THE CITY AN EASEMENT FOR A FUTURE CUL DE SAC OR AT LEAST HALF A CUL DE SAC DOWN ON LINDEN LANE. STAFF DID MEET WITH THEM TO TALK ABOUT THE SCOPE OF WHAT THEY WERE LOOKING FOR OR VOLUNTEERING TO PROVIDE TO THE CITY. MORE TO FOLLOW ON THAT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT THAT'S BEEN A TROUBLED STREET END FOR A WHILE. THE PROVISION OF A TURNAROUND WOULD BE WELCOME THERE AND THEN WE ALSO PROPOSED PARTNERING WITH A RESIDENT DOWN ON THE END OF- >> MAPLE RIDGE? >> MAPLE RIDGE, WHERE THERE'S BEEN WHERE WE HAVE A NEW RESIDENT DOING A BUNCH OF LANDSCAPING. IT'S GOING TO TAKE CARE OF SOME OF THE DRAINAGE ISSUES FOR THE AREA, SO LOOKING AT PARTNERING WITH THEM ON WHAT WE CAN DO TO COORDINATE WITH THEIR PROJECT AT THE SAME TIME, DO SOME THINGS THAT WILL HELP PROVIDE BETTER DRAINAGE FOR THE END OF THAT ROAD AS WELL. GOOD NEWS STORIES OF RESIDENTS REACHING OUT AND LOOKING TO THE CITY TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS. BOTH OF THOSE WILL COME IN MORE DETAIL TO THE COUNSEL IN THE FUTURE. THEN ON THE ADMINISTRATOR SIDE, WE WILL PLAN ON NEXT COUNSEL MEETING, PROVIDING YOU A DETAILED BRIEF DURING CLOSED SESSION ON WHERE WE ARE WITH UNION NEGOTIATIONS. BUT THOSE DO CONTINUE. WE MOST RECENTLY MET WITH THE PATROL OFFICERS, AND WE TRYING TO LINE UP THE 40 NINES, THE PUBLIC WORKS AND PARKS FOLKS NEXT WEEK SO THINGS ARE PROGRESSING. THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR YOU. >> I HAVE A QUESTION, ADAM. HAS THERE BEEN ANY FOLLOW UP ON THAT LAKE ACCESS WHERE THERE WAS SOMEWHAT OF A DISPUTE? I'VE EMAILED ABOUT THAT. STAFF WAS GOING TO GO OUT AND TAKE A LOOK AT THAT LOCAL LAKE ACCESS. >> THE ONE ON HIGHWOOD, YES, PARKS DID GO OUT TO RELO TO MAKE SURE THERE WERE NO ENCROACHMENTS. WE'RE GOING TO ADD A COUPLE MORE MARKERS ON THAT. THE ONE AT ORCHARD BEACH. NO, WE HAVEN'T GONE OUT THERE YET. >> ONE OTHER QUESTION, ARE WE COVERED FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR IN TERMS OF WE HAVE A PARK COMMISSION MEETING TOMORROW NIGHT AND THEN PLANNING MEETINGS FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR? ARE THERE ANY CONFLICTS THAT HAVE COME UP ABOUT PEOPLE BEING OUT OF 10 BECAUSE I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY WE'VE GOT SOMEBODY ASSIGNED EACH OF THOSE MEETINGS IN OTHER WORDS. >> I HAVE NOT. NOBODY HAS BROUGHT THAT TO MY ATTENTION. >> DO YOU HAVE THE LIST. >> CAN WE SEE IT. >> BECAUSE I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT FOR A WHILE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M GETTING THE ONES. PLANNING THIS ONE. >> YOU'RE PLANNING? >> I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT IT UP JUST CHECKING TO MAKE SURE. >> IS THIS POSTED, ADAM ANYWHERE PUBLICLY? >> YES, IT'S ON THE WEBSITE ON UNDER ANNUAL APPOINTMENTS. >> UNDER ANNUAL APPOINTMENTS. >> I CAN LOOK THAT UP IN. COUNSEL COMMITTEE REPORTS, ANY COMMITTEE ACTIVITY? [Council Committee Reports] >> IT'S NOT A COMMITTEE, PER SE, BUT I JUST WANTED TO REPORT THAT I ATTENDED AS THE CITY LIAISON TO THE STUBBS BAY LAKE IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT BOARD MEETING RECENTLY AND WITHOUT GOING INTO GREAT DETAIL, A LENGTHY MEETING, GOOD DISCUSSION, AND IT REALLY CENTERED AROUND A Q&A WITH AN EXPERT WHO WAS ANSWERING QUESTIONS OF THE RESIDENTS ON THE BOARD ABOUT DIFFERENT MITIGATION STRATEGIES FOR AQUATIC INVASIVE SPECIES, AND SOMETHING I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY BECAUSE I'VE GOTTEN QUESTIONS BOTH AT THE MEETING AND AFTERWARDS ABOUT THE ROLE OF THE LIAISON OR WHY THE CITY WOULD BE DOING THIS? AND THE ANSWER THAT I CONTINUE TO PROVIDE IS THAT I BELIEVE AND I BELIEVE THE COUNSEL THINKS THAT COLLABORATION AND COORDINATION AROUND THESE TYPES OF ISSUES THAT IMPACT THE LAKES IS IMPORTANT. THAT SAID, I AM NOT STRAYING INTO THE LANE OF WATER MANAGEMENT. WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT SHORELINE RESTORATION BUFFER ZONES AND THE EXPERT WHO WAS ADVISING DID UNDERSCORE THE IMPORTANCE OF FOLKS WHO LIVE AROUND THE LAKE TO PROVIDE LAYERS OF VEGETATIVE BUFFERING TO HELP WITH THAT PHOSPHORUS LOADING. I DO BELIEVE THERE'S OPPORTUNITY HERE TO CONTINUE TO DISCUSS HOW THE CITY VIEWS LAND MANAGEMENT BECAUSE IT DOES HAVE AN IMPACT ON WATER QUALITY. THAT IS THE LANE THAT I'M STAYING IN AND MY QUESTIONS REALLY RELATED TO SOME SHORELINE MANAGEMENT ISSUES IN THAT MEETING, BUT IT WAS, I THINK IT WAS NICE TO SEE RESIDENTS HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK THOSE QUESTIONS OF [01:20:01] THE BOARD AND THE EXPERT IN THE ROOM. THAT'S ALL I DID. >> WAS IT PRETTY WELL ATTENDED? >> IT WAS. I DON'T HAVE A CHANCE TO SPEAK TO EVERYONE, BUT THERE WERE A NUMBER OF RESIDENTS THERE WHO I MAY ASSUME WERE FOLKS, ALTHOUGH IT WAS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC BUT I BELIEVE MOST FOLKS THERE WERE HOMEOWNERS OR PROPERTY OWNERS, LAKE DEEDED ACCESS OWNERS IN THAT LAKE THE BAY. >> WELL, I ATTENDED THE HIGHWAY MY FIRST MEETING OF THE HIGHWAY 12 SAFETY COALITION OUT IN DELANO ON THURSDAY. THAT WAS INTERESTING TO HEAR ABOUT WHAT THE PLANS ARE FOR HIGHWAY 12 GOING WEST OF HERE. CHIEF FARAC WAS THERE AS WELL AND BROUGHT UP A SAFETY ISSUE IMPACTING OUR COMMUNITY AS WELL. ANYWAY, THAT WAS A GOOD MEETING TO ATTEND. TODAY AT NOON, I WAS AT THE REGIONAL COUNSEL MAYOR'S MEETING. TOPIC TODAY WAS AI AND HOW THAT IMPACTS CITIES AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS VERY TOPICAL, AI AND CYBERSECURITY, GIVEN THE ISSUES IN ST. PAUL, IT WAS A TIMELY TOPIC. I LEARNED A LOT. THOSE ARE THE ITEM, THE ORGANIZATIONS I'VE ATTENDED. ANYWAY, I'LL TURN TO STEVE, SEE IF YOU'VE GOT COUNSEL REPORT. >> NO REAL UPDATE. EXCEPT TO SAY THAT WE HAVE A UPCOMING JPA MEETING THAT'S GOING TO TAKE PLACE NEXT WEEK. WE THINK IT'S GOING TO BE VERY PRODUCTIVE WITH OUR PARTNERS IN LONG LAKE. >> AWESOME. >> LISA. >> I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. >> I'VE NOTHING. >> I'VE GOT NOTHING. >> I'VE GOT A FEW COMMENTS. I'M MINDFUL OF THE FACT THAT THE NFL GAME [Mayor/Council Report] BETWEEN OUR VIKINGS AND THE BEARS KICKED OFF A MINUTE AGO SO I DON'T WANT TO BELABOR THIS, BUT I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANT TO BRING UP BECAUSE I THINK IT'S REALLY EXAMPLES OF HOW OUR COMMUNITY SOME GOOD THINGS IN OUR COMMUNITY AND ORONO, I GUESS HE'S JUST A SUMMER RESIDENT, BUT RESIDENT, NONETHELESS, MARCEEL SMIT, IS HIS NAME, BEEN RECOGNIZED IN A RECENT FOX 9 NEWS SEGMENT FOR PICKING UP TRASH ALONG OUR ROADS. ONCE A WEEK, HE'S ON WALKS HE HAS PICKED UP TRASH, AND HE'S BEEN DOING THIS FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS LITERALLY AROUND THE WORLD. HE'S DONE IT IN KOREA. HE'S DONE IT IN NETHERLANDS. HE'S DONE IT IN SINGAPORE, AND HE HAPPENS TO LIVE IN ORONO, SO HE'S DOING IT IN ORONO AS WELL. HE KEEPS TRACK OF ALL OF THIS ON AN APP, WHICH SHOWS THAT HE CLEANED 23 MILES OF OUR ROADS IN ORONO, PICKING UP OVER 3,500 PIECES OF LITTER. JUST WANTED TO LIFT THAT UP AND SAY, WAY TO GO, MARCELL, AND HE'S NOW GONE FOR THE WINTER, I UNDERSTAND, BUT I WANTED TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO HIM FOR DOING A VERY GOOD DEED FOR HIS COMMUNITY. I ALSO WANTED TO LIT UP OUR LOCAL ROTARY CLUB, WHICH I'VE BEEN A MEMBER FOR 15 PLUS YEARS. LAST SATURDAY, A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO, WE DID A SERVICE PROJECT TO BUILD A WALKING PLATFORM AT OUR SAGA HILL NATURE OR NATURAL CENTER AND ONE OF OUR BEAUTIFUL PARKS IN ORONO, OBVIOUSLY. I ENDED UP LEAVING FOR THE GOPHER GAME BEFORE WE WERE ABSOLUTELY FINISHED, BUT WE WERE NEARLY DONE BY THE TIME I LEFT. YESTERDAY, KATHY AND I WENT BACK FOR A WALK OUT THERE AND SAW THE FINISHED PRODUCT, AND VERY PROUD OF THE WORK, ALTHOUGH IT WAS VERY SIMPLE PROJECT, SOMETHING THAT OUR LOCAL SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS CAN STEP UP AND DO A GOOD DEED FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND JUST A SHOUT OUT TO THE ROTARY CLUB AND TO OUR LIONS CLUB REALLY FOR ALL THAT THEY DO FOR OUR COMMUNITY. THERE'S A LOT OF WAYS FOR CITIZENS TO CONTRIBUTE TO OUR COMMUNITY AND I WANT TO SAY PUBLICLY THAT WE WELCOME THAT WITH OPEN ARMS. ANYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY THAT WANTS TO GET INVOLVED, WE'D LOVE TO GET YOU INVOLVED AND THAT IS NOT LIMITED TO THE SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS, BUT, I THINK WE NEED TO OPEN OUR ARMS TO THE GOOD PEOPLE OF OUR COMMUNITY THAT WANT TO DO GOOD THINGS FOR THEIR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU AGAIN, TO MR. SMITS AND TO THE ROTARY CLUB AND HOPEFULLY, THEY'LL BE INSPIRING OTHERS TO DO SIMILAR GOOD DEEDS FOR THEIR COMMUNITY. WITH THAT, I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN SO WE CAN CATCH MOST OF THE FOOTBALL GAME. >> SO MOVED. >> THERE A SECOND? >> A SECOND. >> ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> AYE. >> AYE. >> ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. WE ARE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU ALL. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.