May 06, 2025 Park Commission

RIGHT. WERE YOU READY TO ROLL? ALL RIGHT. WELCOME TO THE MAY 6TH, 2025 PARKS

[Call to Order]

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WE'LL START BY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, PLEASE.

ALLEGIANCE].

ALRIGHT. FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO WELCOME ALL THE NEW COMMISSIONERS UP HERE. SO WE'VE GOT MOLLY, JACOB, JANIE AND KIM, OUR NEW COMMISSIONERS.

THANK YOU FOR SERVING, VOLUNTEERING, SERVING.

[Approval of Agenda]

ANYONE. DO I HEAR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA OR MAKE CHANGES? ARE WE GOING TO HAVE A CHANCE TO COMMENT DURING EACH OF THESE TIMES THEN? YES. OKAY. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE IT. I SECOND ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. MOTION PASSES. ALL RIGHT. SO WE DO HAVE A COUPLE PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE TODAY.

PUBLIC COMMENT IS NOW OPEN. IF YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS, YOU CAN APPROACH THE PODIUM.

OH, OKAY. OH. I'M SORRY. I SKIPPED APPROVING THE MINUTES.

SORRY. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A STEP BACK HERE.

[Approval of Minutes]

SO MOVED. ALL RIGHT. I'LL SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OPPOSED? OKAY. ALL RIGHT, NOW WE MOVE TO PUBLIC COMMENT, AND NOW WE CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

[Tree Inventory Analysis & Maintenance Strategy]

YEAH. JUST TO GIVE YOU GUYS A LITTLE HEADS UP, JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND THE CITY WAS ABLE TO SECURE A GRANT TO DO AN INVENTORY AND ANALYSIS OF THE TREES, MOSTLY IN PARKS AND PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.

THIS IS A USEFUL TOOL FOR US, NOT ONLY TO GET A VIEW OF WHAT HEALTH THE TREE CANOPY AND THINGS ARE IN THE CITY, BUT IT'S ALSO A REALLY USEFUL TOOL WHEN WE'RE APPLYING FOR GRANTS.

PRETTY MUCH ANY STATE, FEDERAL GRANT. PRIVATE GRANT REQUIRES THIS TREE INVENTORY REPORT.

A CITY TO HAVE IT BEFORE THEY CAN APPLY FOR PRETTY MUCH ANY GRANT.

SO THIS WILL BE A USEFUL TOOL FOR US APPLYING FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDS TO HELP NOT ONLY WITH EMERALD ASH BORER PROBLEMS BUT JUST DEVELOPING A HEALTHY TREE INVENTORY IN THE CITY.

THIS REPORT WILL ALSO HELP US AND WHEN I SAY US, THE CITY AS A WHOLE.

SO PLANNING DEPARTMENT, PUBLIC WORKS, STREETS DEVELOP A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR TREES IN THE CITY. SO THAT'S ONCE WE. THIS WAS DELIVERED TO US A LITTLE OVER A MONTH AGO.

SO WE HAD ONE PRELIMINARY MEETING INTERNALLY, JUST ABOUT WORKING TOWARDS THAT PLAN.

BUT EVENTUALLY THAT WILL BE SOMETHING THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO PRESENT HERE AND THEN EVENTUALLY TO COUNCIL TO KIND OF HAVE A PLAN FOR THE CITIZENS AND FOR STAFF TO KIND OF GO FORWARD.

MOST OF THE INFORMATION IN THE DOCUMENT IF YOU HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT, BASICALLY JUST LOOKS AT KIND OF THE HEALTH OF OUR TREES, THE BREAKDOWN AND THEN RECOMMENDED SUGGESTIONS IN RELATION TO THE PARKS COMMISSION, THERE'S NOT REALLY MUCH FOR YOU GUYS CURRENTLY AT THIS POINT.

IT'S MORE I WANTED TO BRING IT IN FRONT OF YOU AS AN INFORMATIONAL TOOL, SO YOU KIND OF KNOW WHAT IT IS AND KIND OF THE PROCESS WE'RE AT AT THIS POINT. SO I HAD A QUESTION IS I'M ASSUMING THIS IS TRUE, BUT WAS IT THE 400 OR 4000

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THE REST OF IT PUBLIC OR PRIVATE LAND IS A WHOLE ANOTHER THING.

WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING FOR THAT. BUT SO THAT'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT.

BUT THEY FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE A PRETTY GOOD REPRESENTATION OF WHAT WE HAVE ON PUBLIC LANDS IN THE CITY.

YEAH. MOLLY AT ANY POINT IN TIME, ARE WE IS THE PLAN TO DISTINGUISH OR SEPARATE THE PUBLIC VERSUS THE PARKS AND OR WILL THIS BE LED IN ONE KIND OF OVERARCHING INITIATIVE? IT WILL PROBABLY BE ONE REPORT, BUT THERE WILL BE IT WILL BE SEPARATE KIND OF GUIDELINES, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY PEOPLE'S PRIVATE LAND IS CAN BE TREATED DIFFERENTLY THAN WHAT WE DO WITH PUBLIC LANDS WHERE WE HAVE A LITTLE MORE CONTROL.

LAURA IN OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT COULD PROBABLY SPEAK ON THAT A LITTLE BETTER, BUT IT WILL BE MORE OF A LIKE A GUIDELINE.

LIKE SAYING, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE REMOVING TWO ASH TREES ON YOUR PROPERTY.

WE RECOMMEND YOU DO FOUR OF THESE ADDITIONAL TREES TO TRY TO VARY OUR.

SO IT WILL BE ONE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, BUT PUBLIC AND PRIVATE WILL BE PRETTY.

YEAH. I MEAN MY DISTINCTION WASN'T PUBLIC. SORRY IF I SAID THAT.

NOT PUBLIC PRIVATE, BUT PARK VERSUS CITY. AND THEN WOULD WE EVER GET DOWN TO A POINT WHERE WE WOULD HAVE A PLAN FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL PARK? LIKE A TREE PLAN, LIKE.

YEAH. THAT COULD BE SOMETHING WE COULD WORK ON.

BUT I THINK THE WAY WE'RE FOCUSING ON HERE WOULD JUST BE WHAT WE WANT TO LOOK FOR GOING FORWARD.

OKAY. YEAH. INDIVIDUAL PLANS WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE AS YOU GUYS, AS THE COMMISSION AND ME AS THE PARKS SUPERINTENDENT COULD WORK ON. THIS WOULD BE MORE OF LIKE AN OVERALL KIND OF VIEW OF THE TREE HEALTH IN THE CITY.

YEAH. WHERE'S THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ISSUE AT THE PRESENT TIME? LIKE, WE JUST WE REALLY JUST GOT THIS PLAN. SO IT'S VERY EARLY, SO I COULDN'T SPEAK ON WHERE KIND OF THEY FEEL ABOUT IT.

SO IS THE THREE YEAR BUDGET IN THERE? THAT'S, WHAT, $1.4 MILLION OR SOMETHING? YES. SO THAT IS THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WE'VE SAW AND IT WILL HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED AND THAT WOULD OBVIOUSLY COME FROM COUNCIL IF YOU KNOW, IT'S A PRIORITY AND THERE'S BUDGET FOR IT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE PIE IN THE SKY. WE REPLACED 100% OF THE DAMAGED TREES.

WE HAVE ALL THE TREES REPLACED AT WHAT THEY RECOMMEND AND YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, STAFF TO MAINTAIN THEM AND SO IT'S KIND OF THE IF YOU WERE TO DO 100% REPLACE EVERY TREE THAT YOU NEED TO PLAN.

THAT'S THE WAY THEY PUT IT. SO, YOU KNOW, THERE CAN BE DEGREES OF IT, SINCE OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T HAVE $1 MILLION TO SPEND ON REPLACING TREES.

WOULD DAVEY RESOURCE GROUP IMPLEMENT THIS PLAN OR WOULD WE BID IT OUT TO MULTIPLE.

NO, THEY REALLY JUST DID THE REPORT. SO IT COULD BE DONE INTERNALLY.

IT COULD BE CONTRACTED OUT. OBVIOUSLY STAFF WISE THAT'S GOING TO IF WE DO IT INTERNALLY, THAT'S GOING TO SAVE MONEY ON DOING IT. BUT A LOT OF THIS THE STUFF WOULD HAVE TO BE WE DON'T HAVE A TREE NURSERY, SO WE'D HAVE TO PURCHASE TREE INVENTORY MAINTENANCE.

THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE LOOKED AT TOO, BECAUSE IT WOULD BE A LOT MORE, WOULD BE A LOT MORE ROLES IN THE TREE MAINTENANCE ESPECIALLY IF WE FOLLOW KIND OF THE PLAN THAT'S PROPOSED.

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FIVE BEING A DANGEROUS TREE THAT NEEDS TO COME DOWN.

SOME OF THEM ARE TOO BIG FOR STAFF TO TAKE DOWN, SO THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE CONTRACTED OUT.

BUT WE'RE SLOWLY TRYING TO WORK THROUGH THEM.

A LOT OF THEM WE WORKED ON IN THE WINTER WAS AT THE GOLF COURSE AND THEN ANY THAT WE THOUGHT MIGHT FALL ONTO PROPERTY OR DAMAGE SOMETHING.

SO THAT WILL BE A CONTINUING PROCESS THROUGH THE SUMMER WHERE WE CAN GET INTO THE PARKS A LITTLE BETTER, WHERE THERE'S NOT THE SNOW OR THE MUD, SO IT MAKES IT A LITTLE EASIER.

SO, JOE, YOU GOT A GRANT FOR THIS PART OF THE PROCESS OR IS THIS TO GET A GRANT CORRECT? OKAY. THE DOG PARK HAS A LOT ON THE PATHWAYS, A LOT OF ASH TREES THAT ADAM SAID HE WAS JUST GOING TO LET FALL.

YEAH, IF THEY'RE NOT A DANGER. FOR ANYONE, THAT'S KIND OF BEEN OUR PRACTICE TO LET THEM FALL.

IT'S NATURAL. IT CAN GIVE GROUND COVER TO INSECTS, BUGS, DIFFERENT ANIMALS, EVEN THE ONES ALONG THE TRAIL.

WELL, IF WE IF THEY LOOK LIKE THEY'RE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, BE DANGEROUS, WE CAN TAKE THEM DOWN FOR SURE.

JUST LET ME KNOW. WE CAN ADD THEM TO THE LIST.

IS THAT I THINK WE LEARNED AT OUR ONBOARDING SESSION THAT THE EMERALD ASH BORER DOESN'T MATTER ONCE YOU CUT THE TREE DOWN.

LIKE, IT'S NOT CONTAGIOUS ANYMORE. SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT.

BUT IS THE ASIAN LONGHORNED BEETLE, WHICH I'M SURPRISED WE HAVE MORE ISSUES WITH THAT THAN THE EMERALD ASH BORER.

IS THAT LIKE A BUG THAT COULD HAVE A CONTAGION WHERE THEY HAVE TO LIKE, WE WOULD CUT MORE FOCUS ON THOSE TREES TO REDUCE ITS IMPACT OR NOT.

WE COULD I THINK THE WAY WE HAVE STAFF TIME AND EFFORT, WE REALLY CAN JUST FOCUS ON THINGS THAT ARE IMMINENT DANGERS AND SO IT'S MORE FOR WHAT JANIE SAID.

YEAH. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'RE WE HAVE TIME FOR.

UNFORTUNATELY RIGHT NOW OUR RESOURCES, BUT IT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT COULD BE LOOKED AT.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S WORTH IT. I MEAN, I NOTICE ON THE LOOSE LINE THEY'RE TAKING SOME ASH OUT, BUT NOT ALL. SO THEY'RE DOING SOMETHING SELECTIVE.

I DON'T. YEAH AND IT'S REALLY SOME WILL SURVIVE.

BUT MOST OF THEM ARE GOING TO END UP COMING DOWN, UNFORTUNATELY.

THANK YOU. YEAH. YOU'RE WELCOME. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION. I KNOW THAT THIS EFFORT REALLY STARTED WITH JOSH AND IT'S BEEN COMING ALONG AND I THINK THERE WERE SOME EARLIER PHASES AND SO THIS IS A HUGE PROBLEM FOR THE CITY AND I THINK WE GOT IT.

WE WERE LUCKY ENOUGH TO GET THE FIRST VIEW OF THIS, THE FIRST PRESENTATION OF THIS.

AND SO LET US KNOW HOW YOU WANT US TO BE INVOLVED GOING FORWARD OUR ROLE IN THIS.

SO. YEAH, DEFINITELY. YEAH. THAT'S GREAT. ALL RIGHT.

SO NEXT ON THE LIST IS ANOTHER STAFF REPORT, THE MAYOR'S MONARCH PLEDGE AND OTHER STAFF UPDATES THAT YOU HAVE. YEAH. LET ME START WITH STAFF UPDATES TO GO OVER A FEW THINGS AND THEN WE'LL GET INTO THE MONARCH'S PLEDGE, BECAUSE COUNCIL BENSON WILL ALSO BE GIVING A LITTLE OVERVIEW OF KIND OF SOME OF THE PROGRAMS IN THE CITY AFTER.

SO JUST WE ARE OBVIOUSLY GEARING UP FOR SUMMER, SO STAFF IS TRYING TO GET ALL THE PARKS UP TO SHAPE. GOLF COURSE SEASONALS ARE STARTING TO COME ON.

SO WE'RE GETTING THAT GOING. WE HAD KIM IN A CLUBHOUSE TOLD ME WE HAD THE BUSIEST SUNDAY THEY'VE EVER HAD AT THE GOLF COURSE. SO THE WEATHER IS GOOD, PEOPLE ARE COMING OUT.

THEY'RE GETTING A LOT OF EXTRA PEOPLE COMING OVER BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE CLOSED COURSES IN THE AREA.

SO SHE'S SEEING A LOT OF NEW PEOPLE, WHICH IS.

WHICH IS GREAT. BITTERWOOD, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT BEEN GOING ON THERE.

THERE'S SOME FENCING THAT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED.

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WE'RE GOING TO DO A TEMPORARY FIX JUST SO THE BALLS DON'T GO UNDER.

BUT PROBABLY NEXT YEAR AND THE GOLF ASSOCIATION OR THE BASEBALL ASSOCIATION HAS VOLUNTEERED THAT THEY HAVE SOME MONEY. THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP. JUST WE'VE FIGURED OUT THE CONCRETE POLES ARE STARTING TO CRUMBLE, AND THEY NEED TO BE REPLACED, BUT THAT'S A BIGGER PROJECT THAN JUST FIXING THEM.

SO WE'RE GOING TO DO SOME MINOR REPAIRS. SO THEY'RE GOOD TO GO FOR THE SEASON AND THEN LOOK AT THAT BIGGER FIX GOING GOING FORWARD.

ALL OF OUR IRRIGATION SYSTEMS HAVE BEEN TURNED ON AT THE PARK, SO THEY'VE BEEN WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON GETTING THOSE UP TO SPEED.

THE GOLF COURSE IS ALWAYS A CHALLENGE JUST BECAUSE OF THE AGE OF THAT SYSTEM.

BUT THEY FINALLY HAVE IT WORKING IN ORDER FOR THOMPSON CITY HALL.

THOSE ONES WERE ALL GOOD TO GO. WE ARE. I RECENTLY SUBMITTED A SOLAR POWER GRANT THAT WAS STARTED BY TAYLOR BEFORE HE LEFT TO PUT SOLAR ON THE PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING, SO IT WOULD BE MOSTLY GRANT FUNDED. SO WE'RE HOPEFUL FOR THAT, THOUGH.

A LOT OF THE FUNDING IS TIED TO FEDERAL FEDERAL DOLLARS.

SO THAT MIGHT NOT BE THERE, BUT IT'S SUBMITTED AND HOPEFULLY THERE WILL BE SOMETHING THERE.

WE HAVE AN ARTIST WHO IS JUST WORKING ON THE ROCK AT THE GOLF COURSE.

SO IF YOU DRIVE BY THERE, YOU CAN SEE ONE HALF OF IT'S DONE.

GREAT. SHE'LL BE DOING THE OTHER HALF. SO IT HAS THE CURRENT LOGO AND LOOKS REALLY NICE.

SO IT'S EXCITED TO DO THAT. EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

OH WE ALSO GOT NEW TEE SIGNS THAT ARE AT THE GOLF COURSE.

SO IF YOU'RE OUT THERE YOU'LL SEE THOSE HAVE BEEN INSTALLED.

SO THEY'RE THEY LOOK NICE. THEY HAVE ALL THE YARDAGE AND EVERYTHING.

COMING. I THINK WE'RE STILL WAITING ON A FEW OF THE NUMBERS FOR THE YARDAGE AND THOSE THAT THEY'LL GET OUT HOPEFULLY THIS WEEK.

I WANT TO GIVE US A KIND OF A SHOUT OUT TO THE THURSDAY NIGHT MEN'S LEAGUE, WHO WENT OUT TO THE GOLF COURSE AND CLEANED UP SOME BRUSH AND TOOK A LOT OF STUFF OUT OF THERE. WORKED HARD. SO THAT WAS HELPFUL. I KNOW GREG AND MITCH AT THE GOLF COURSE.

GREATLY APPRECIATE IT AND SAVED THEM A LOT OF TIME.

IT WOULD'VE BEEN PROBABLY A COUPLE DAYS FOR THEM, AND THE GUYS GOT IT DONE IN A COUPLE HOURS, THAT WAS GREAT. WE HAVE AN EAGLE SCOUT WHO IS DOING A PROJECT AT THE GOLF OR AT THE DOG PARK.

SO HE'S GOING TO PUT IN A KIND OF A LITTLE STATION.

OH, I'M SORRY, HE'S A LITTLE. HE'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE STATION AT THE NORTH END WHERE YOU CAN PUT DOGGY BAGS, PEOPLE CAN HANG THEIR LEASHES LITTLE CUBBIES SO YOU CAN PUT THINGS IN THERE.

SO HE'S GOING TO BE WORKING ON THAT THIS MONTH INTO NEXT TO FINISH HIS EAGLE SCOUT PROJECT.

ALSO IN GOOD NEWS, THE APPLE TREE IS AT THE GOLF COURSE THAT WERE INSTALLED LAST YEAR.

HAVE SURVIVED. SO MAYBE WE'LL HAVE SOME APPLES THIS YEAR.

BESIDES THAT, MOST OF THE REST IS JUST GENERAL MAINTENANCE AND UPKEEP.

THE NEXT KIND OF BIG THING WE'LL BE LOOKING AT IS DOING SOME REPAIRS TO THE GOLF CART CART PATH COMING UP, BECAUSE ON THE 7TH. AT THE 17TH. YEAH. HAVE YOU GUYS MADE IT OUT TO BIG ISLAND? AND WHAT'S THE STATUS? WE ARE GOING OUT TO BIG ISLAND TOMORROW.

SO WE'LL BE I WAS OUT LAST WEEK TO LOOK AT THE DOCK.

I WOULD LIKE TO SAY I'M NOT AN ENGINEER OR HAVE DOCK EXPERIENCE, SO WELL, IT LOOKED FINE, BUT. WELL, THE. I AM MEETING WITH THE COMPANY THAT PUT IT IN TO GO TAKE A LOOK AT IT AGAIN AND SEE WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT.

THEY ARE CONFIDENT THAT IT'S FINE, BUT I'M TRYING.

WHY DON'T YOU GIVE IT A LITTLE BACKGROUND FOR OTHER PEOPLE THAT DON'T KNOW THE CONCERN THERE? YEAH. SO THE DOCK AT BIG ISLAND I DON'T KNOW ALL THE BACKSTORY, BUT IN THE PAST, IT WAS FLOATED OUT AND STORED FOR THE WINTER. THIS PAST YEAR, IT WAS LIFTED AND PUT ONTO THE SHORE.

THERE WAS SOME DAMAGE THAT THEY REPAIRED TO ONE OF THE JOINTS WHICH IS A

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SO I'M KIND OF COMING UP TO SPEED ON THAT. THEY'RE THEY'RE SAYING THAT'S PERFECTLY FINE.

IT SHOULD. THERE SHOULDN'T BE A PROBLEM WITH THE DOCK.

BUT WE ARE LOOKING TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S UP TO CODE.

IT'S UP TO IT'S SAFE AND IF THERE IS A PROBLEM, WE'LL HAVE TO ADDRESS THAT.

SO THAT'S STILL IN PROCESS. IT HASN'T BEEN PUT IN THE WATER YET.

THEY'RE HOPEFULLY WILL BE SHORTLY AND I CAN GET OUT THERE WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE IT HASN'T BEEN THE DOCK HASN'T BEEN INSTALLED.

HAVE YOU BEEN ABLE TO DO ANY MAINTENANCE OUT THERE? NO. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING TOMORROW. THE PONTOON, OUR CITY PONTOON WAS GOING UNDER REPAIR, SO IT'S BEEN FINALLY READY TO GO. SO JUST WISH ME LUCK THAT WE DON'T GO UNDER TOMORROW OR ANYTHING.

IT SHOULD BE FINE. SO, YEAH, WE'RE REALLY JUST WAITING TILL WE HAD THE PONTOON READY TO GO SO WE COULD GO OUT THERE AND GET THE PARK READY.

SO LATER ON OUR NEXT TOPIC, I GUESS, AFTER THE MONARCH IS TO TALK ABOUT PARK ASSIGNMENTS.

OKAY? AND JUST SO EVERYONE KNOWS, THE PARK ASSIGNMENTS ARE WE DOLE OUT, WHAT, 25 OF OUR PARKS AMONG THE COMMISSIONERS HERE, JUST SO THAT WE CAN GET SOME EYES ON MORE FREQUENT EYES ON THE PARKS AND AND GIVE EVEN THOUGH JOE AND HIS TEAM AND GREG'S TEAM GOES OUT AND.

YEAH, WE GET OUT AS MUCH AS WE CAN, BUT WE CAN'T BE OUT EVERY PARK EVERY DAY.

YEAH, SOME THINGS GET IGNORED. SO YOU GUYS ARE VITAL TO.

RIGHT [INAUDIBLE]. SO MY QUESTION TO YOU IS WHAT DO YOU WANT AS WE GO OUT, AS WE ASSIGN THE PARKS AND THEN GO OUT AND VISIT THEM. WHAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FROM US FROM A SPRING CLEANUP PERSPECTIVE? I WOULD SAY ANYTHING YOU'VE SEEN THAT IS KIND OF LIKE A HIGH PRIORITY.

SO WE HAVE STARTED CUTTING GRASS. THE GRASS IS STARTING TO BE CUT, SO THAT SHOULD BE DONE.

BUT ANYTHING YOU SEE THAT IS LIKE, FIRST OF ALL, A DANGER.

ANYTHING THAT'S A DANGER. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IMMEDIATELY. OBVIOUSLY.

JUST THINGS THAT YOU SEE THAT COULD BE A DETRIMENT TO THE PUBLIC OR A BLOCK FOR THEM USING IT OR JUST GENERAL THINGS THAT DON'T LOOK GREAT THAT WE CAN IMPROVE. YOU KNOW, LIKE BIG, YOU KNOW, BIG IDEAS, THINGS LIKE, OH, THAT WE NEED A NEW PLAYGROUND OR WE NEED THIS. I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR, BUT THOSE ARE THINGS OBVIOUSLY, WE NEED TO ADDRESS.

DURING THE BUDGETING PERIOD AND THAT STUFF. RYAN PLANNING.

GOAL PLANNING? YES, PLANNING AND SO FORTH. HOW OFTEN DID YOU GUYS CHECK PARKS HISTORICALLY, SINCE YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN ON THERE? I THINK IT'S DIFFERENT FOR EVERYONE.

SO THERE WASN'T LIKE LIKE SAY, IF YOU ARE ASSIGNED A PARK OR YOU DECIDE TO CHOOSE A PARK, IS IT SHOULDN'T WE SAY LIKE GO OUT THERE TWICE A MONTH OR DON'T YOU? IT'S HARD FOR ME TO, I DON'T WANT TO SET EXPECTATIONS FOR PEOPLE.

BUT I WILL SAY THAT WE WILL NOW THAT WE HAVE A FULL COMMISSION AGAIN.

WE'RE ROUTINELY AT OUR MONTHLY MEETINGS, ASK FOR FEEDBACK OR REPORT BACK ON THE PARKS THAT YOU'VE BEEN.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MONTHLY MEETINGS. WELL, WE.

YEAH, EITHER UP HERE OR IN THE WHAT? WORK SESSION.

SO WE'LL BE A LITTLE BIT MORE DILIGENT ABOUT ASKING THOSE QUESTIONS AND GIVE JOE FEEDBACK.

BUT AGAIN, IT'S YOU KNOW, WHEN WE FIRST STARTED THIS PROCESS, THE STAFF, THE PARK STAFF HAD A LOT FEWER PEOPLE ON IT AND SO IT WAS EVEN MORE IMPORTANT FOR US TO BE OUT THERE WITH THEIR EYES AND EARS.

SO YEAH, I WOULD HATE TO SAY LIKE, OH, I NEED YOU TO BE OUT THERE TWICE A MONTH.

BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE MIGHT LIVE RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO A PARK AND THEY CAN CHECK IT EVERY DAY OR CHECKING ONCE A WEEK WHILE OTHER PEOPLE, IT'S A LITTLE MORE OF A CHORE. I UNDERSTAND YOU GUYS ARE VOLUNTEERS, SO I DON'T WANT IT TO FEEL LIKE IT'S ON YOU TO DO OUR PARK'S JOB.

JUST ANY KIND OF ANY HELP IS APPRECIATED AND WELCOME.

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IT'S JUST I'M HAPPY TO DO IT. YEAH, DEFINITELY.

I THINK THAT'S WHY WE JOINED THE COMMISSION. YEAH.

TAKE IT WHEN YOU CAN GET IT. I'LL TAKE IT. I JUST DON'T WANT TO, YOU KNOW, DEMAND IT.

SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE HAD THE JOINT MEETING WITH THE COUNCIL STEVE PERSIAN BROUGHT UP THE SUBJECT OF PARK STANDARDS, MAINTENANCE STANDARDS AND PARK STANDARDS. SO HE DID.

I DID REACH OUT TO HIM, AND HE SENT ME THE DOCUMENTS AND THE MAINTENANCE STANDARDS DOCUMENT IS FROM 2014.

SO THAT NEEDS YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE THOSE IN PLACE UPDATED SO THAT WHEN WE GO OUT TO PARKS, WE KNOW WHAT. MAYBE THIS NEEDS A NEW SIGN AND MAYBE WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY FOR IT, BUT AT LEAST IT GOES ON THE LIST AND THE STANDARDS LIKE THE SIGNAGE, EVERYTHING THAT MAKES IT COHESIVE, THE PARKS LOOK COHESIVE.

BENCHES, TABLES, ALL THAT. THAT DOCUMENT HASN'T BEEN UPDATED SINCE 2021.

SO MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE TO THINK ABOUT WHEN YOU'RE GOING OUT TO LOOK.

YEAH, I MEAN, BENCHES ARE BENCHES AND SO BUT THOSE COULD DEFINITELY BE UPDATED.

WE COULD DEFINITELY TAKE A LOOK. IF WE DO UPDATE THINGS, THEN YOU HAVE EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN DONE HAS TO BE UPDATED TO JUST TO KEEP IN MIND THE COSTS ARE ALWAYS A CONCERN, BUT THAT CAN DEFINITELY BE UPDATED AND BROUGHT UP TO SPEED FOR 2020.

I THINK WHAT JANEY SAID IS GOOD. WE SHOULD JUST GET IT NOTED.

YEAH. WE CAN'T. NOT THAT EVERYTHING WILL BE FIXED RIGHT AWAY. YEAH, WHEN WE HAVE MONEY AND MAKE THOSE DECISIONS WILL BE BETTER FOR SURE.

HAVE MORE DATA TO MAKE GOOD DECISIONS BECAUSE YEAH.

LIKE THIS IS A RED FLAG. THIS IS A GREEN FLAG.

SO I THINK JUST COLLECTING WILL BE SUCCESS NOW.

YEAH. SO WE'VE. YEAH. GO AHEAD. I WAS JUST GOING TO OPEN IT UP TO OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT HIS UPDATES AS FAR AS THIS GOES.

WE'LL COME BACK TO THAT. BUT GO AHEAD. JUST PROTOCOL WISE, IF WE VISIT A PARK AND AND SEE SOMETHING THAT PERHAPS NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED OR NOTED, WE JUST SEND YOU AN EMAIL OR EMAIL, PHONE CALL OR WHATEVER YOU WHATEVER YOU WANT.

OKAY. CERTAINLY DON'T WAIT FOR THE NEXT MEETING.

THAT'S NOT WHAT I INTENDED. BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, WE DON'T WANT EIGHT PEOPLE COMING TO STAFF WITH THEIR IDEAS ABOUT WHAT THEY SHOULD BE WORKING ON, BECAUSE THERE'S A PARTICULAR PARK THAT THEY BELIEVE IS A PROBLEM.

SO I THINK THAT IN SOME RESPECTS IT SHOULD BE BROUGHT TO YOU FIRST OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

YEAH. SO WHAT HE SPECIFICALLY ASKED FOR ARE MORE URGENT THINGS.

AND THOSE ARE THE THINGS YOU SHOULD MOVE TO HIM OTHERWISE THROUGH THE GOAL SETTING AND PLANNING PROCESS THAT WE'LL GO THROUGH, YOU KNOW, SOON, YOU KNOW. YOU KNOW, KEEP THOSE IN MIND FOR IF THEY'RE LONGER TERM CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS AND SO FORTH.

YEAH. IF THAT'S HELPS. EVERY PART'S DIFFERENT.

EVERY PART IS GOING TO REQUIRE A DIFFERENT LEVEL OF MAINTENANCE AND LOOK SEES US.

SEVEN NATIONS PARK IS GOING TO REQUIRE LESS THAN THE DOG PARK.

SO YOU KNOW I THINK IT'S A SLIPPERY SLOPE THAT WE'VE GOT TO AVOID WITH REGARD TO WHAT WE BECOME TO THE STAFF.

WE DON'T WANT TO BE A BURDEN. YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO BE SOMETHING THAT HELPS THEM.

IT'S MORE JUST ROUTINE MAINTENANCE. IF THERE'S A LATCH ON THE GATE THAT ISN'T WORKING THAT PROBABLY JUST MENTIONED TO THEM.

BUT IF THERE'S WE SHOULD MOVE THE FENCE OR EXPAND IT.

THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO DISCUSS. DO YOU COLLECT THE INFORMATION, NOT ASK FOR ACTION.

DO YOU HAVE A SYSTEM THAT YOU FOR MAINTENANCE ISSUES? LIKE IF THERE'S A LATCH ON A FENCE [INAUDIBLE] REPORTS IT, AND THEN YOU OPEN A TICKET OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

IT GOES INTO A SYSTEM OR. NO. OKAY. BECAUSE REALLY, IT'S ME, GREG AND MITCH DO EVERYTHING AND IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN'T DO, I WOULD CONTRACT SOMEONE OUT TO FIX IT.

IF IT'S A BIGGER ISSUE THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO ADDRESS, THEN THAT DOES GO.

WE DO HAVE REPORTS FOR LIKE INFRASTRUCTURE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

IT WOULD GO ON THAT WE MEET. YEAH. I WAS JUST ASKING ABOUT HOW YOU KEEP TRACK OF THESE REALLY? JUST LIKE A SPREADSHEET. EXCEL SPREADSHEET. SO YOU WANT US TO CALL YOU WHEN SOMETHING NEEDS ATTENTION? YEAH. IF YOU SEE SOMETHING LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, THERE'S A BRANCH DOWN. IT'S BLOCKING A PATH.

TRASH IS FULL. IF YOU CAN DEFINITELY SEND ME BIGGER PROBLEMS THAT I CAN THEN ADD, YOU KNOW,

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THAT'S GIVING YOU WORK. I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE. YEAH. SO I CALL YOU ABOUT THIS TREE THAT'S DOWN [INAUDIBLE].

YOU DON'T HAVE TIME TO GET TO IT. WELL, WHAT AM I GOING TO DO, CALL YOU AGAIN? COME ON. YEAH. COME ON NOW, I WONDER. I MEAN, I'D BE WILLING WE COULD CREATE A GOOGLE DOC AND I COULD JUST TRACK STUFF THAT'S NOT IMPORTANT. NOT URGENT, BUT IMPORTANT. WELL, I THINK THE VISIT DON'T LOSE IT.

BUT WE DON'T BURDEN JOE WITH, YOU KNOW, EVERY TIME WE SEE SOMETHING, I THINK THE VISITATIONS ARE IMPORTANT.

IT'S GOOD TO HAVE OTHER EYES ON IT. ALL THOSE THINGS.

I JUST THINK THAT THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY HERE TO OVERWHELM STAFF BECAUSE OF OUR ZEALOUSNESS TO DO MORE AND DIFFERENT EYES ON DIFFERENT PARTS. YEAH.

SO IF WE JUST COLLECTED THOSE IDEAS AND THEN WE COULD DISCUSS THEM, I JUST DON'T WANT TO LOSE THEM WITHOUT TRIGGERING ACTION.

SO I'M WILLING TO TAKE POINT WHEN WE GET TO IT.

I GUESS WE'RE GETTING AHEAD NOW. WE CAN TALK. YEAH.

SO JUST SEND ME A NOTE. I CAN GET THIS DOCUMENT FROM JOE AND PUTTING NOTES IN IT.

ANYTHING THAT'S URGENT, I MEAN, JUST ANYTHING URGENT, GO STRAIGHT TO THEM RIGHT AWAY.

ANYTHING THAT'S NOT URGENT, BUT SMALL AND IMPORTANT.

SHORT TERM, YOU KNOW, KEEP IT. AND THEN THE NEXT MEETING, REPORT IT OUT AND THEN ANYTHING THAT'S LONG TERM, NOT URGENT, BUT IMPORTANT, YOU KNOW, LET'S KEEP FOR THE PLANNING PROCESS.

THAT'S A GREAT IDEA AND I CAN FOLLOW UP. CAN I SET ONE SUGGEST ONE EXAMPLE.

OF COURSE. YEAH. SO WE HAD A GREAT VISIT TO SUMMIT BEACH PARK.

ME AND MY SEVEN YEAR OLD AND I KNOW EVERYTHING IS YOU KNOW, WE HAD SNOW ON THE GROUND AT THE BEGINNING OF APRIL AND NOW IT'S 85 AND SO MY SON HAD TO GO USE THE PORTA POTTY, AND IT'S NOT THERE AND I KNOW THAT YOU PROBABLY WAIT UNTIL WE AREN'T GOING TO GET A FROST ANYMORE, SO THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, LIKE A, YOU KNOW, PORTA POTTY YOU KNOW IS READY FOR? OR WHEN CAN THOSE COME IN? AND IF WE KIND OF TIP YOU OFF ON THAT, YOU PROBABLY ALREADY HAVE THAT SCHEDULED TO DO THAT.

AND SO NO, IT IS HELPFUL. SO THERE WAS A SCHEDULE, BUT THEY'RE KIND OF WAITING ON US TO GIVE THEM THE GO AHEAD.

SURE. A PERFECT EXAMPLE IS THIS OVER AT BETA, WOULD THE GAMES HAVE STARTED FOR THE KIDS SO THEY WANTED THEM PUT OUT EARLY? SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN TAKE CARE OF. SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING IF YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, I KNOW YOU HAVE KIDS.

IF YOU SEE, IF YOU'RE OUT AT A GAME OR YOU'RE OUT SOMEWHERE AND SOMETHING IS MISSING OR IS IN NEED, WE CAN TAKE CARE OF THAT. I CAN ALSO ALWAYS SAY NO TO YOU GUYS.

FEEL FREE. YOU SHOULDN'T LOOK AT YOURSELVES AS ANY DIFFERENT THAN ANY OTHER CITIZEN.

I GET CALLS EVERY DAY ABOUT THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON AT THE PARK, SO WE TRY TO ADDRESS THEM AS BEST WE CAN, CANS. BUT I APPRECIATE MICHAEL'S. WELL, THEN, IF YOU'RE OPEN, YOU KNOW, FOR EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER JUST TO CALL YOU DIRECTLY AND YOU SAY YES OR NO. THEN THAT'S FINE. YOU KNOW, I JUST.

NO, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. YEAH. YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO BE OVERWHELMED WITH, YOU KNOW, 20, 30 CALLS A DAY ABOUT CERTAIN THINGS.

SO. BUT I THINK KIM HAS A GOOD IDEA FOR SOME BIGGER THINGS AND.

YEAH, JUST KEEP IT. KEEP IT. I THINK EVERYONE CAN HAVE SOME GOOD GUIDANCE.

RIGHT? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO MONARCH? I HAD ONE OTHER QUESTION. YOU MADE A COMMENT ABOUT BITTERWOOD AND THE BASEBALL ASSOCIATION CONTRIBUTING FUNDS ON THE ON THE BACKSTOP OR THE POSTS? YEAH. HAVE THEY ALSO CONSIDERED HACKBERRY? I KNOW THAT THE BACKSTOPS THERE WERE IN PRETTY ROUGH SHAPE AND IS THERE KIND OF BIGGER THINKING ABOUT WHERE THOSE FUNDS COULD BE SPENT RELATIVE TO THE HACKBERRY PLAN.

I KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT FUNDING FOR THAT. THAT STILL FEELS LIKE A WAYS AWAY.

NOT GOING TO HAPPEN ANY NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS LIKELY.

SO JUST THEY THEY DIDN'T MENTION THAT. BUT THAT'S SOMETHING I COULD DEFINITELY BRING UP TO THEM AS A, YOU KNOW, AN OPTION FOR USING THOSE FUNDS. OBVIOUSLY IT'S THEIR MONEY, BUT YEAH, I WOULD I'M SURE THEY'D BE FINE WITH US DISCUSSING IT. YEAH. JUST POINT BEING HACKBERRY MAY NOT HAPPEN FOR A WHILE, SO IF THAT NEEDS ATTENTION.

DEFINITELY. WHAT WAS THAT? FUNDS? FOR WHAT? FOR THE BACKSTOPS.

THE BACKSTOPS THERE. LIKE. YEAH THEY NEED. YEAH.

SO YEAH. BUT I DON'T BEAT HER WITH THE SAME. BUT YOU KNOW, THERE WAS EARLY PLANNING FOR A BIGGER REDO AT HACKBERRY WHICH IS A WAYS AWAY BECAUSE OF LACK OF GRANT FUNDING. SO IN THE MEANTIME, WHILE THOSE THINGS ARE A PROBLEM, THEY SHOULD REEVALUATE.

YEAH, I DEFINITELY CAN BRING THAT UP TO THEM.

JUST SHOW. DID THEY APPLY FOR A GRANT FOR HACKBERRY THIS YEAR?

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OH IT'S NOT. YEAH. SO WE HAVEN'T APPLIED FOR THAT YET, BUT YEAH, THAT'S LIKE SEPTEMBER.

OCTOBER, I THINK. DEADLINE, BUT SO ARE YOU OR ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT 2024? NO, I KNOW THEY DIDN'T GET THAT ONE RIGHT. I WAS WE WOULD I MEAN, WE'RE PLANNING TO APPLY FOR IT THIS YEAR.

IT JUST HASN'T COME UP YET, SO. ALL RIGHT. YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT.

SO RECENTLY WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN BENSON ABOUT THE DESIRE FOR US TO

[Mayors Monarch Pledge]

I THINK IT'S A GREAT THING FOR THE CITY. SO BASICALLY, WE CAN SEE A LITTLE BIT OF THE BACKGROUND FOR IT. IF YOU WANT TO GO ON YOUR OWN, YOU CAN LOOK AT THE WEBSITE.

THERE'S SOME MORE OPTIONS. CURRENTLY, RIGHT NOW, WHAT WE'VE COMMITTED TO IS TO LAUNCH AND MAINTAIN A PUBLIC COMMUNICATION EFFORT. SO THAT'S REALLY JUST TO GET INFORMATION OUT TO RESIDENTS ABOUT THE BENEFITS OF HAVING MILKWEED OR OTHER SUITABLE PLANTS THAT WOULD HELP THE MONARCHS. SO THAT WILL BE DONE THROUGH OUR NEW COMMUNICATIONS PERSON.

SHE'S DOING A GREAT JOB, AND I THINK THIS WOULD BE A GREAT THING TO GET OUT JUST TO MAKE PEOPLE MORE AWARE OF IT.

YOU KNOW, THE OTHER THE NEXT ACTION ITEM, WHICH IS ENGAGE WITH COMMUNITY GARDEN GROUPS TO, TO PLANT THEM. I THINK THAT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE 94.

THE COMMISSION I KNOW A LOT OF YOU HAVE A LOT OF CONNECTIONS TO GARDENING GROUPS AND GROUPS IN THE CITY WHERE YOU CAN JUST, YOU KNOW, IT'S IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ANYTHING FORMAL.

IT CAN JUST BE LIKE, HEY, THE CITY HAS THIS PLEDGE.

WE'RE LOOKING TO HELP THE MONARCHS, AND HERE ARE SOME WAYS WE CAN DO IT, WHICH IS MOST OF THEM PROBABLY ALREADY KNOW IT.

BUT SO THAT'S I HAVE ONE SUGGESTION. SO I HAD ASKED HIM NOT TO MOW WOODHILL AVENUE, GAUDI ROAD, AND THEY DIDN'T DO IT, BUT LAST YEAR THEY CAME BECAUSE IT'S JUST LOADED WITH MILKWEED ON BOTH SIDES.

BUT LAST YEAR THEY CAME THROUGH AND JUST TOOK IT DOWN EVEN FURTHER INTO THE WETLANDS.

THEY WENT MAYBE LIKE EIGHT FEET, I THINK AND SO NOW I DON'T IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT'S COMING BACK VERY WELL.

SO MAYBE WE CAN LOOK AT SOME OF OUR NOT SO BUSY OR BUSY CITY STREETS AND TALK ABOUT HOW MOWING IMPACTS THAT.

DEFINITELY AND THAT IS ONE OF THE. ONE OF OUR PLEDGES IS TO OKAY.

THAT'S PART OF IT. TRAINING CITY STAFF AND EDUCATING CITY STAFF ONTO MAINTAINING MORE OF THE MILKWEED IN THE CITY.

SO DOES THAT MEAN THAT THEY'RE MOWING? DO THEY REACT WHEN THEY SEE THE MILKWEED? OR HOW DO WE KEEP IT? IT'S MORE JUST INSTEAD OF JUST, OH, WE'RE JUST GOING TO MOW THIS.

TO HAVE A PLAN OR TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT, YOU KNOW I CAN'T SPEAK ON EVERYTHING THEY'RE MOWING.

SOME OF IT MIGHT BE A SAFETY CONCERN. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ONE IS REFERRING TO, BUT JUST MORE INSTEAD OF JUST BEING WHATEVER, WE'RE JUST GOING TO CUT BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO DO TO BE A MORE THOUGHTFUL APPROACH TO MAINTAINING AS MUCH AS WE CAN IN PLACES THERE IS ALWAYS A, YOU KNOW, A PUSH AND PULL.

SOME PEOPLE DON'T WANT, YOU KNOW, THEY LOOK AT THE MILKWEED AS SOMETHING THAT'S LOOKS LIKE A WEED AND IS UNSIGHTLY AND THEY WILL WANT IT CUT.

SO THAT'S PART OF THE EDUCATION PROCESS, TOO, NOT JUST FOR STAFF, BUT FOR CITIZENS TO MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, THEY KNOW WHY IT'S THERE AND WHY WE'RE LETTING IT.

DO WE MOW EVERY STREET? NO, I DON'T THINK THEY KNOW.

WE DON'T. WHERE DO WE MOW AS A CITY? WELL, THERE'S SOME RIGHT OF WAYS THAT OUR MOWED.

I REALLY ONLY KNOW THE PART. WE MOW THE PARKS AND DIFFERENT AREAS.

THAT'S KIND OF MY. I THINK YOUR LAWNS GO ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE ROAD AND I THINK A WILD, MORE WILD AREA, YOU KNOW, NEXT TO PONDS AND STUFF. YEAH. AND SOME OF THAT IS SOME OF IT NEEDS TO BE CLEARED IF IT'S A FIRE LANE OR THEY NEED ACCESS TO THE LAKE. BUT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS REALLY JUST MAKING IT A MORE THOUGHTFUL APPROACH TO NOT

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SO I'D LIKE TO THINK THAT THEY INTENTIONALLY DIDN'T MOW THAT ONE TWO YEARS AGO, BUT IT PROBABLY WAS THAT THEY JUST DIDN'T GET TO IT.

RIGHT. IT COULD HAVE BEEN A NEW GUY AND JUST SAID, MAYBE THAT'S A POSSIBILITY.

I JUST THINK, YEAH, WE'D HAVE THE DISCUSSION EVERY YEAR AND IT WAS JUST HAPPENED.

YEAH, THAT'S AND THAT'S PART OF IT. IT CAN BE TRAINING THAT, YOU KNOW, I ADMINISTER TO THE STREET STAFF TO THE PERSON WE HAVE CONTRACTING TO DO MOWING AT THE PARKS AND THEN JUST BETTER SIGNAGE AND BETTER THINGS SO PEOPLE KNOW WHY IT'S THERE. SO THAT'S PART OF KIND OF THE ENGAGED PART OF THIS PLEDGE AND THEN GOING INTO THE PROGRAM AND DEMONSTRATION GARDEN WE HAVE A PLAN TO KIND OF CREATE A POLLINATOR GARDEN OUT IN FRONT OF CITY HALL HERE BY THE FLAGPOLE.

THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN A KIND OF SITE, UNSIGHTLY AREA.

THEY TRIED A LITTLE BIT LAST YEAR, BUT I THINK THERE'S A LOT MORE WE CAN DO WITH THAT.

SO A COUPLE OF QUICK SUGGESTIONS. SO I'M VERY HAPPY TO SEE THIS.

YEAH. I DO HAVE A BUTTERFLY GARDEN AND MY PROPERTY, IT'S PROBABLY ONLY SIX FEET WIDE BY MAYBE 30FT LONG AND YOU'D BE VERY SURPRISED. IT DOESN'T TAKE A LOT TO ATTRACT THESE LITTLE HUMMINGBIRD ARE KIND OF NOT HUMMINGBIRDS, BUT HUMMINGBIRD BUG AND THE MONARCHS AND WHATNOT AND A SUGGESTION FOR THE GROUP.

THE FAMILY LIKES TO VISIT NUREMBERG GARDENS. WE'RE SO LUCKY TO HAVE ALL THESE PLACES AND THERE'S A MAGENTA COLORED BUSH THERE THAT I SWEAR THERE WAS ABOUT 50 MONARCH BUTTERFLIES ON A BUSH, NOT A MILKWEED.

VERY ATTRACTIVE PLANT. I COULDN'T QUOTE WHAT THAT PLANT IS NAMED, BUT ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS GO OVER THERE AND ENJOY ONE OF OUR PARKS AND AND SEE FOR OURSELVES THAT IT DOESN'T TAKE A LOT TO REALLY SUPPORT YOU KNOW, THIS BEAUTIFUL LITTLE CREATURE, MONARCHS THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS ABOUT AND MANY MORE THAT WE NEVER THINK ABOUT.

SO IT'S I'M GLAD TO SEE THIS. THANK YOU. YEAH, I THINK IT'S A NO BRAINER.

IT'S. YEAH. THERE'S A POLLINATOR GARDEN AT THE DONATION GARDEN TOO AND SO THAT'S ABOUT 40FT BY FIVE FEET WIDE I THINK AND IT'S THE THING ABOUT THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO GET USED TO IS THEY CAN BE UNSIGHTLY DURING A CERTAIN TIME OF YEAR, YOU KNOW. SO BUT THEN THEY BECOME BEAUTIFUL AS THEY JUST HAVE TO GIVE THEM A LITTLE MORE TIME.

BUT PEOPLE BRING THE FLOWERS AND THE BALL. THAT IS A NEGATIVE.

YEAH. THERE CAN BE SOME PUSHBACK. THAT'S WHY I THINK YOU KNOW, YOU CAN DEFINITELY DO IN THE PLANNING ASPECT OF WHEN YOU'RE DOING THE GARDEN, DIFFERENT THINGS BLOOMING AT DIFFERENT TIMES, WHICH IS GOOD FOR THE HEALTH.

YOU CAN HAVE SOME VARYING PLANTS SO THEY CAN SEE WHAT'S GOING ON BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, MILKWEED IS NOT THE MOST BEAUTIFUL PLANT, BUT IT SERVES A PURPOSE. SO IF YOU MIX IN SOME, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT CONEFLOWERS OR DIFFERENT THINGS, WE CAN MAKE IT LOOK NICE AND USEFUL. SO I'M EXCITED ABOUT IT AND THEN THERE'S JUST SOME LIKE, SYSTEMS CHANGES, WHICH WOULD JUST BE KIND OF LIKE IN THE CITY'S MASTER PLAN, JUST KIND OF INCLUDING, BEING, YOU KNOW, PLANNING FOR THAT IN THE FUTURE AND THEN THIS WOULD BE KIND OF MORE ON THE PARK SIDE JUST WHEN WE'RE USING CHEMICALS, MOSTLY, THE ONLY PLACE WE USE CHEMICALS ARE ON THE BALL FIELDS OR THE GOLF COURSE.

JUST TRYING TO BE MINDFUL OF THEIR IMPACT ON MONARCHS AND OTHER, YOU KNOW ANIMALS AND INSECTS. SO THAT'S REALLY JUST WHAT I WANTED TO KIND OF GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF THAT.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'RE EVERYONE HERE IS PROBABLY EXCITED ABOUT.

AND THEN I'LL CALL UP COUNCILMAN BENSON HERE TO SPEAK A LITTLE MORE KIND OF ABOUT THE THE PROCESS AND THE HISTORY.

THANK YOU. JOE. SO I'M ELISA BENSON, A MEMBER OF COUNCIL.

IT'S NICE TO SEE YOU ALL HERE TONIGHT. AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT INTRODUCTION.

IT WAS A REALLY GREAT OVERVIEW. AND I'M JUST REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS.

SO I'M HERE AS AN EX OFFICIO MEMBER OF COUNCIL TONIGHT TO REPORT BACK TO COUNCIL ON THIS MEETING AND OUR NEXT MEETING NEXT WEEK.

BUT THEN I SEE ON THE AGENDA ITEM FOR TONIGHT THIS MAYOR'S MONARCH PLEDGE AND I THOUGHT, WELL, THAT'S GOOD TIMING BECAUSE IT WAS ME WHO THIS LANDED IN MY EMAIL A COUPLE MONTHS AGO FROM THE NATIONAL WILDLIFE FEDERATION

[00:45:01]

SO WE'RE NEW TO THIS, BUT THIS IS NOT A NEW PROGRAM AND WE'LL BE JOINING OTHERS THAT HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS CONSERVATION WORK BOTH IN MINNESOTA AND ACROSS THE UNITED STATES, CANADA AND MEXICO. BECAUSE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE MIGRATORY PATTERN OF THE MONARCH AND OTHER POLLINATORS.

ALL THREE COUNTRIES ARE INVOLVED, SO IT GOES WAY BEYOND ORONO AND THE IMPACT GOES WAY BEYOND OUR CITY.

SO I WANT TO TAKE AND THIS WILL BE UNDER I SAID EIGHT MINUTES, I'LL SAY UNDER TEN TO PROVIDE SOME CONTEXT AND HISTORY ABOUT WHY THIS PROGRAM MATTERS IN ORONO, BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST, AS YOU SAY, JUST ABOUT ONE SPECIES.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT POLLINATORS AND THE PLEDGE OF THIS CITY GOING FORWARD TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE IMPORTANCE OF THESE SPECIES IN OUR CITY.

SO IN ORONO, AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE, IN THE JOINT SESSION THAT WE HAD WITH COUNCIL AND PARKS, AND ALSO PROBABLY IN YOUR ONBOARDING THAT THE REALLY IMPORTANT FEATURE OF THE PARKS COMMISSION IS TO ADVISE THE COUNCIL, AND WE RELY ON YOUR ADVISING AND COUNSEL VERY HEAVILY IN WHAT IN THE WORK THAT WE DO.

SO MAINTENANCE AND USE OF PARKS FACILITY IS ONE OF THOSE AREAS THAT YOU WILL ADVISE ON.

THE OTHER TWO ARE. PRESERVATION OF NATURAL RESOURCES AND PROMOTION.

PROMOTION OF ENVIRONMENTAL AWARENESS AND FOR THE NEWER COMMISSIONERS, THOSE LAST TWO ITEMS. THESE ARE ALL PULLED STRAIGHT FROM THE CITY WEBSITE.

SO NATURAL RESOURCES AND THE PROTECTION OF THESE AND AWARENESS, ENVIRONMENTAL AWARENESS ARE PART OF HOW YOU ADVISE COUNCIL.

IT'S PART OF THE JOB. SO THIS INITIATIVE IS A REALLY GOOD FIT.

WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THOSE INITIATIVES AND RAISING PUBLIC AWARENESS ABOUT THE PRESERVATION OF NATURAL RESOURCES COMES INTO PLAY IN ORONO, BECAUSE LOSS OF HABITAT WHEN WE HAVE DEVELOPMENT OR OTHER PROJECTS DOES HAPPEN, MILKWEED, OTHER NATIVE SPECIES ARE IMPACTED AND THAT COMBINED WITH THE USE OF CHEMICALS THAT ARE INDISCRIMINATE IN HOW THEY AFFECT POLLINATORS, ADDS UP ALONG WITH CLIMATE EVENTS TO NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE SPECIES HERE.

THE GOOD NEWS, THOUGH, IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO REINVENT THE WHEEL AND I THINK THESE INITIATIVES THAT YOU'RE DRAWING UPON INDICATE THAT ALSO OUR CITY, NOT JUST OTHERS, BUT THIS CITY OF ORONO HAS BEEN HISTORICALLY INVOLVED IN PRESERVATION AND PROTECTION IN THE PAST.

AND I WANTED TO GIVE SOME HISTORICAL CONTEXT.

WE MENTIONED EARLIER A BOY SCOUT INITIATIVE COMING UP.

WE'VE HAD OTHERS IN THE PAST, BOY SCOUT INITIATIVES TO PLANT PERENNIALS AT ANTOINE PARK.

I'M PULLING ALL OF THESE FROM PARK COMMISSION MEETINGS, BY THE WAY.

IN THE PAST, SO BOY SCOUTS HAVE PLANTED PERENNIALS.

I KNOW CASCO CIRCLE PARK HAD AN INITIATIVE YEARS AGO WHERE RESIDENTS CAME INTO THAT PARK, WHICH IS NATURAL AND PLANTED NATIVE SPECIES, INCLUDING MILKWEED, I BELIEVE. AT CERTAIN, AT LEAST IN THE PAST, WE HAD A STANDING CONTRACT FOR PRAIRIE RESTORATION.

ALSO 7 NATIONS. THIS ONE IS VERY INTERESTING.

THE KIDS WILL LEAD THE WAY IN 7 NATIONS PARK JULY OF 2018.

TWO GIRL SCOUTS CREATED AN INITIATIVE AROUND POLLINATORS.

SO THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE NEW OR MIGHT NOT KNOW, THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE BEEN HERE A WHILE MIGHT KNOW.

THIS WAS REALLY EXCITING. THESE TWO YOUNG WOMEN BACK IN JULY OF 2018 AND AGAIN, I'M PULLING FROM THE MINUTES HERE.

THEY INDICATED TO THE PARKS COMMISSION AT THAT TIME THAT POLLINATORS LIKE BEES AND BUTTERFLIES ARE IMPORTANT AND NEED OUR HELP.

THIS WAS SEVEN YEARS AGO. 3/4THS OF THE WORLD'S FLOWERING PLANTS, AND ABOUT 35% OF THE WORLD'S FOOD CROPS DEPEND ON POLLINATORS TO REPRODUCE.

SO THEY WENT ON THESE TWO YOUNG WOMEN WITH THEIR GOAL TO HELP IMPROVE THE SITUATION BY PLANTING A POLLINATOR GARDEN AT SEVEN NATIONS PARK.

THEY DID MILKWEED AND OTHER TYPES OF NATIVES.

BECAUSE THE PURPOSE OF THEIR GOAL FOR THEIR GIRL SCOUTS GROUP WAS TO ADDRESS A PROBLEM IN THE COMMUNITY OR IMPROVE THE COMMUNITY IN SOME FASHION.

SO THIS HAS HAPPENED BEFORE. THE ISSUE HERE IS THAT EVEN WHEN IT COMES TO NATURAL GARDENS AND PLANTINGS, WE NEED TO HAVE A WAY OF OPERATIONALIZING THESE BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE WILD, THEY DO REQUIRE SOME LEVEL OF CARE AND IF OVER TIME THAT GENERATIONAL OR KNOWLEDGE OF STAFF AND WHATNOT WITH MOWING PATTERNS OR WHATEVER ELSE AND IT'S HAPPENED AT [INAUDIBLE], YOU CAN TAKE THAT STUFF OUT AND IT'S APPARENTLY HAPPENED AGAIN.

SO PART OF THE ISSUE IS NOT JUST FOCUSING ON ONE PLEDGE, BUT ALSO SAYING, HOW ARE WE AS A CITY ENSURING THAT OUR PROCESSES AND OUR PROGRAMS ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO CARRY THIS FORWARD SO THAT IT'S NOT LOST IN THE SHUFFLE? SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS REALLY EXCITING THAT THESE ARE COMING FROM THE NOTES. AND OFTENTIMES CHILDREN HAVE BEEN INVOLVED AND I THINK THAT'S ALSO VERY EXCITING,

[00:50:03]

SO THEY DO REQUIRE A COMMITMENT FROM PARKS COMMISSION FROM OUR CITY AND ALSO OUR STAFF TO MAINTAIN AND BUILD THIS INTO OPERATIONAL PROGRAMING. BUT AGAIN, GETTING BACK TO THE WIDER COMMUNITY, OTHER CITIES HAVE ALREADY ESTABLISHED THE MONARCH MAYOR'S PLEDGE.

CITY OF MINNETONKA, CITY OF MINNETONKA BEACH.

OUR NEIGHBORS IN THE LAKES AREA HAVE ALREADY TAKEN THE PLEDGE.

I KNOW I'VE SPOKEN WITH FOLKS AT MINNETONKA BEACH AND THEIR PARKS COMMISSION IS VERY HANDS ON.

THEY HAVE A VERY SMALL STAFF THERE, SO THEY CAN'T RELY ON STAFF.

SO THOSE COMMISSIONERS HAVE BEEN HARD AT WORK OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS, CREATING HABITAT AND ALSO EDUCATION AROUND THE MONARCH FOR THEIR MAYOR'S PLEDGE AND THE CITY OF MINNETONKA CURRENTLY HAS 30, ALMOST 30 ACTIONS IN PROGRESS TOWARDS THIS GOAL.

SO WE'RE REALLY IN GOOD COMPANY IN TAKING THIS PLEDGE AND EVEN THOUGH OTHER CITIES HAVE DIFFERENT RESOURCE LEVELS, I THINK THERE'S A WAY THAT THIS CAN BE FIGURED OUT WITH THE HELP OF THE COMMISSION.

SO I APPRECIATE YOU PUTTING UP ALREADY KIND OF WHAT YOU'RE THINKING IN TERMS OF HOW TO IMPLEMENT THESE INITIATIVES DON'T REQUIRE BURDENSOME FUNDING OR A LOT OF IT. THEY'RE REALLY DEPENDENT ON THE OPERATIONAL PLANNING AND THE VOLUNTEER COMMITMENT AND SO THOSE ARE THE AREAS THAT THE COMMISSION CAN REALLY HELP COUNCIL IN THE CITY MOVING FORWARD AND THE BROADER IMPACTS HERE ARE THAT IT IS REALLY BECOMING MORE TYPICAL FOR CITIES TO INCLUDE NATIVE PLANTINGS, NOT JUST IN ONE MONARCH SENSE, BUT ALSO WITH MUNICIPAL BUILDINGS AND I KNOW THAT OR IN RESIDENTIAL PLANNING, YOU GET SOME DEVELOPERS WHO ARE COMMITTING NOW TO USING NATIVES WHEN THEY BECAUSE THIS SUPPORTS OUR ENVIRONMENT MORE THAN ORNAMENTALS.

AND WHEN COUNCIL MEMBER RICKS AND I WERE TAKING TOURS OF SOME OTHER CITIES IN THE AREA, WE DID NOTICE THAT OTHER MUNICIPAL BUILDINGS HAVE AREAS WHERE THEY ARE INTENTIONALLY PLANTING NATIVES, INCLUDING POLLINATORS, BECAUSE THEY ARE AWARE THAT WE AS CITY OFFICIALS CAN HAVE AN IMPACT.

SO WITH THAT, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO TELL YOU WHAT I KNOW, BUT I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE YOU TO LOOK THROUGH SOME OF THE HISTORY OF ORONO, BECAUSE THERE'S A RICH HISTORY OF PEOPLE ENGAGING IN THIS WAY AND I THINK IT'S REALLY EXCITING THAT THE MAYOR HAS BEEN WILLING TO OFFER HIS SUPPORT IN THIS AREA AND THAT WE CAN BE A LEADER AGAIN AND REALLY WORK WITH OUR OTHER CITIES TOWARDS THE SCHOOL AND ON THE LAST NOTE, I WOULDN'T RECOMMEND ANY INITIATIVE THAT I MYSELF WASN'T WILLING TO BE A VOLUNTEER ON.

SO I WILL SAY IF THERE IS NEED IN THE FUTURE, I WILL CERTAINLY LEND A HAND, WHETHER IT'S EDUCATIONAL SUPPORT OR GETTING DIRTY.

WHATEVER IT IS. SO THAT'S ALL I HAD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. YEAH. DID WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE SHE SAID QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? NO ONE COMMENT. I'M JUST WONDERING HOW THIS MIGHT.

FOLD IN WITH PRAIRIES. I MEAN, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY OF THAT CALVIN PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH OVER OFF OF WILLOW HAS A BEAUTIFUL PRAIRIE.

I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW BIG IT IS, BUT IT'S RATHER LARGE.

THEY JUST HAD IT BURNT. AND I GUESS THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HELPED THEM WITH THAT.

SO INSTEAD OF PRAIRIE RESTORATION, WHICH IS QUITE EXPENSIVE, BUT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT THAT IN CONJUNCTION WITH THIS.

THE GOLF COURSE WOULD BE A GOOD PLACE TO HAVE SOME KIND OF PRAIRIE, AND SAGA HILL HAS A NICE PRAIRIE UP ON THE TOP THERE.

YEAH. SO IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING TO LOOK AT PRAIRIE RESTORATIONS GREAT FOR.

ALL RIGHT. IF NOTHING FURTHER, WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT ITEM IS TO LOOK THROUGH PARK ASSIGNMENTS.

[Park Commissioner Assignments]

YEAH, THAT'S. OH, I DON'T HAVE A CHAIR REPORT.

WELL, THIS IS PART OF MY CHAIR REPORT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, SO WE HAVE A COMMISSION TO TALK TO.

THAT'S CHAIR REPORT. YEAH. THAT'S RIGHT. THANK YOU AGAIN.

I HAD MY CHAIR REPORT WHEN I THANKED YOU GUYS FOR.

ALL RIGHT. SO AGAIN, THIS IS THE PURPOSE OF THIS.

THIS IS SOMETHING WE RENEW EVERY YEAR. IT'S PARK ASSIGNMENTS.

IT'S 25, I THINK DIFFERENT ASSIGNMENTS THAT WE DOLL UP, AND

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BUT WE DIDN'T BECAUSE WE HAD 3 VACANCIES. SO WE WAITED.

SO THIS IS NOW WHERE WHERE WE GO. NONE OF THESE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SOME NAMES.

MOST OF THEM ARE OPEN. WE DO HAVE SOME NAMES ON SOME OF THEM.

THOSE ARE THOSE WERE CARRY OVER FROM LAST YEAR AND IT'S CARRY OVER FROM LAST YEAR.

AND THOSE THAT HAD THESE COMMISSIONERS HAD SPECIFIC INTERESTS IN NOTHING SAYS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T STILL THAT EVERYTHING IS SET AND NOTHING'S SET IN STONE.

SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT. IF YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC INTEREST IN THE PARKS THAT ALREADY HAVE NAMES ON IT, BUT LET'S JUST GO FROM THE TOP DOWN. I THINK THAT IF WE DIVIDE THIS BY EIGHT OF US, THEN INCLUDING RICK, THAT WOULD BE ABOUT 3 PERSON. THIS IS A DIFFERENT DOCUMENT THAN THAT WAS UP THERE ON FRIDAY.

WE JOE UPDATED IT, MADE A COUPLE DIFFERENT UPDATES.

YEAH. OH, OKAY. JUST TO GET ON TODAY, BUT JUST DENIED ACCESS.

THAT'S PROBABLY WHY THERE WAS ONE PARK THAT WAS ON THERE THAT WASN'T ONE THAT WE MAINTAINED.

SO WE TOOK THAT OFF AND THEN THERE WAS SOME WE OPENED UP SOME OTHER PARKS.

THAT. YEAH, I WANTED TO GET RID OF A LOT OF THESE TO OPEN THEM UP.

SO WE HAVE A BETTER STARTING POINT. SO THERE'S REALLY WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THAT AND WHAT WE GOT? JUST THERE'S SOME MORE OPEN SPOTS. OH, JUST OPEN SPOTS.

NOT THE LIST OF PARKS. THERE'S ONE PARK THAT THE PLEASANT VIEW IS NOT A PARK AND IT WAS ON THAT LIST.

OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH. WHAT IS IT? IT'S JUST AN OPEN AREA.

THAT CITY OWNED PROPERTY. YOU KNOW, ONE THING THAT'S ON BIG ISLAND, LIKE ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF BIG ISLAND.

YEAH. ONE THING, THOUGH, WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THE 2014 ORONO PARK MAINTENANCE.

THERE'S A PARK CALLED CYGNET AND IT'S NOT IN THERE.

IT'S IN THE ON THE WEBSITE AND IN THE COMP PLAN THAT'S I THINK.

WHERE IS THAT? WHY IS THAT NOT ON HERE? I DON'T KNOW SPECIFICALLY I WASN'T THERE, BUT I SUSPECT THAT OVER TIME, SOME OF THESE JUST OPEN SPACES THAT ARE CITY OWNED, OPEN SPACES THAT AREN'T REALLY ACTIVE, AREN'T REALLY PARKS THAT THE CITY MAINTAINS THAT THOSE PROBABLY GOT REMOVED.

AND PLEASANT VIEW WAS ONE OF THEM, I THINK THAT.

YEAH. I LIVE ON THIS IS HER. THERE WAS A PARK SIGN THERE A LONG TIME AGO AND IT'S GONE NOW, SO I THINK IT MUST HAVE BEEN A CONSCIOUS DECISION TO MAKE IT.

CITY OWNS THE PROPERTY, BUT THERE'S NO PARK. IS IT BIG? I THINK IT'S JUST ONE OF THE LOTS. AND WHEN I WAS TALKING TO BRIAN, I THINK IT COULD HAVE BEEN WHAT THE.

WHEN THEY DEVELOPED THAT STREET, THEY, WHEN THEY HAVE TO GIVE MONEY OR LAND, WHEN THEY DEVELOP, MAYBE THAT'S WHAT THEY NAMED THAT ONE AND IT JUST NEVER PROGRESSED.

I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF CITY OWNED PROPERTY OUT THERE THAT I THINK THERE'S A LOT WITH THAT WHOLE LIST OF THEM.

I THINK WE JUST PUT THAT KIND OF BACK IN THE POOL.

BUT YEAH. JOE, DO YOU IF YOU HAVE SPECIFIC ONES THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER TREATING AS PARKS ALSO OUTSIDE OF THE SCOPE OF THIS.

FIRE LANES TOO. SO JOE, DO YOU HAVE THAT EXCEL DOCUMENT THAT SHOWS ALL IT'S LISTED BY THE PID OF ALL THE PUBLIC LAND THAT THE CITY OWNS? THE ONE THAT WAS IN OUR TRAINING, THE TRAINING BOOKLET OR.

NO, I GOT IT A LONG TIME AGO, LIKE MAYBE TEN YEARS AGO.

I DON'T HAVE IT. LIKE, AT LEAST I HAVEN'T SEEN IT.

MAYBE. I'M SURE IT'S SOMEWHERE. SO THAT'S. I COULD DEFINITELY TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AT SOME POINT.

IT'S POINTS OF INTEREST. I THINK THAT SO THE FULL ANSWER IS SOMETHING LIKE SIGNET.

I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF THOSE. IF WE YEAH IS GETTING THAT RIGHT.

THERE'S A LOT OF CITY OWNED LAND PARCELS. YEAH.

SO IF WE CALL IT A PARK, THERE'S CERTAIN STANDARDS THAT WE WANT TO ADHERE TO IN MAINTENANCE AND LOOK AND FEEL AND EVERYTHING. RIGHT AND SO FOR A PROPERTY THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO INVEST IN THAT FOR WHATEVER REASON, THEN WE JUST DON'T CALL IT A PARK. I THINK IT'S GOOD TO LOOK AT THE LIST TO SEE IF THERE ARE THAT WE SOME THAT WE MIGHT.

THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GETTING AT, JANIE. RIGHT. IF WE HAD THAT LIST. YEAH. I MEAN, I WELL, IT'S HARD TO LOOK AT IT BECAUSE IT'S ONLY HAS THE PID, SO YOU'D HAVE TO GO ON HENNEPIN COUNTY AND LOOK UP EACH ONE.

BUT THERE'S IT'S A BIG LIST, A REALLY BIG AND I'M NOT SUGGESTING THEY'RE PARKS.

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MAYBE THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT MIGHT HAVE. THEY WOULD HAVE MORE ANSWERS, BUT SOME OF THEM PROBABLY ARE LOST TO TIME.

NO ONE KNOWS WHY THEY WEREN'T DEVELOPED OR WHY WHAT THEIR PURPOSE WAS, BUT I CAN AT LEAST DEFINITELY TAKE A LOOK.

OKAY. SO MAYBE I'LL JUST GO TOP DOWN HERE AND GIVE YOU A LITTLE DESCRIPTION.

FOR THOSE WHO I KNOW, MOST OF YOU HAVE BEEN TO THESE PARKS, BUT I'LL STILL GIVE A QUICK DESCRIPTION.

SO ANTOINE PARK IS ON POINT. IT HAS A LITTLE PLAYGROUND AREA.

IT'S ONE THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, POSSIBLY BUILDING A SHELTER OR DOING SOMETHING IN THE FUTURE.

IT'S A GREAT NEIGHBORHOOD PARK. ANY TAKERS? I'LL TAKE IT AS PART OF THE ADOPT THE PARK THING, TOO. BECAUSE THE INVOLVED COMMUNITY OUT THERE.

PERFECT. SO. OKAY AND IF ANYONE DOESN'T WANT TO TAKE IT, THAT'S FINE.

WE'LL WE'LL LOOP BACK. BITTERWOOD PARK IS WE HAVE A A NEWER SOCCER FACILITY THERE.

SOCCER FIELD. WE HAVE A BASEBALL FIELD. WE HAVE A NICE PLAYGROUND AND A NEW PARKING LOT THERE.

IT'S ONE OF OUR BIGGER PARKS, SO I USE THAT PARK QUITE A BIT, BUT.

OKAY, SO. BUT THAT ONE'S NOT OPEN. OR CAN WE.

IS IT. OH, IT IS OPEN. YOU HAVE AN OLDER. OH YEAH.

AND THAT'S OKAY. YEAH. THIS IS THE SOURCE OF TRUTH RIGHT HERE FOR THIS.

SO IF YOU WANT, WE GOT A WINNER. ALL RIGHT. BIG ISLAND RICK HAS SPENT.

THIS HAS BEEN A PASSION FOR HIS. HE WAS A PART OF THE FUNDRAISING FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT HAPPENED AND SO FORTH.

HE'S OUT THERE WINTER MONTHS AND SUMMER MONTHS ALMOST ON A DAILY BASIS.

SO I THINK HE'S A GREAT CANDIDATE TO KEEP THAT ONE.

BUT IF ANYONE ELSE WOULD RATHER. I HAVE A QUESTION.

SURE. ON THIS ON THE ORIGINAL CHART, YOU HAVE ASTERISKS, YOU KNOW, FOR LEAD COMMISSIONERS.

SO THAT'S ONLY WHERE WE HAVE MULTIPLE COMMISSIONERS.

LIKE THE TRAILS. OH, SO WHAT IS A LEAD COMMISSIONER OVER A REGULAR COMMISSIONER? I THINK THAT'S THE ONLY ONE. RIGHT? IS THE TRAILS.

YEAH. WELL, AND . YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE SUBCOMMITTEES, WHICH ARE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW.

THIS IS JUST PARK ASSIGNMENTS, WHICH IS THE SECOND PAGE.

BUT IT SAYS, OH, A LEAD COMMITTEE MEMBER. OKAY.

WELL, YOU CAN ANSWER THAT WHEN WE GET TO IT. YEAH.

OKAY. SO THERE IS ONE. ONE I THINK THE LAKE ACCESS POINT DOESN'T.

RIGHT. I CAN'T SEE IT OFF THE. YEAH IT DOESN'T HAVE.

OKAY. SO THE WE HAVE TRADITIONALLY HAD TWO PEOPLE ON THE BIKEWAY TRAILS BECAUSE WE MAYBE A BETTER NAME FOR THAT IS PAVED TRAILS. JUST BECAUSE THERE'S WHAT FIVE OF THEM THERE AND WE'VE GROUPED THEM TOGETHER.

SO WE'VE HAVE 2 COMMISSIONERS. WE DON'T REALLY HAVE TO DESIGNATE A LEAD AND NOT A LEAD.

BUT YOU KNOW, THIS IS AN AREA THAT RICK HAS SHOWN LEADERSHIP IN THE LAST NUMBER OF YEARS.

HE'S BUT HE'S ALSO OPEN FOR SOMEONE ELSE WITH AN INTEREST FOR HIM TO PASS THE BATON.

SO HE JUST SAID HE WOULD BE KIND OF A SECOND SECONDARY AND SOMEONE ELSE COULD COME AND CARRY THE MOST OF THE WATER ON THIS ONE.

SO DO YOU THINK THE BIGGER PARKS SHOULD HAVE TWO COMMISSIONERS? I MEAN, LIKE BIG ISLAND IS PRETTY BIG. YEAH. WELL.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S A NEED TO HAVE MORE THAN THIS IS.

JUST REMEMBER THE IDEA IS JUST TO GET TO THESE PARKS AND GET YOUR EYES ON THEM FOR MOSTLY FOR MOSTLY FOR MAINTENANCE THINGS. BUT THEN ALSO THAT WILL HELP FEED INTO THE GOALS FOR LONG TERM PLANNING.

ALL OF US SHOULD BE OUT AT ALL OF THESE PARKS TO AND WILL KNOW ONE.

JUST BECAUSE YOUR NAME IS ON THERE DOESN'T MEAN NO ONE ELSE HAS A OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT THE PARKS.

I JUST WANTED TO. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO KEEP IT LEAN SO THAT WE DO HAVE EYES ON MOST OF THESE PARKS.

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I THINK IT'S GOOD. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO CASCO POINT PARK THAT'S A BIG ISLAND IS STAYING WITH RICK.

UNLESS. UNLESS ANYONE WANTS HAS AN INTEREST IN IN BIG ISLAND.

I THINK THAT'S A GOOD, GOOD FIT FOR HIM. YEAH.

OKAY. CASCO POINT PARK. THAT'S A GREAT. ALSO NATURE AREA, KIND OF A NEIGHBORHOOD.

NATURE AREA IS WHAT I WOULD CALL PEOPLE. THE NEIGHBORS ARE USE IT A LOT.

THERE'S NO AMENITIES THERE. I'LL TAKE THAT ONE.

OKAY. CONCERNS THAT WE HEARD TYPICALLY, I THINK I SHARED WITH YOU IS PARKING.

THE CONSTRUCTION IS ALWAYS GOING ON AROUND THERE.

SO PARKING DECK CONSTRUCTION, PARKING AND THEN MOWING.

AND SPECIFICALLY LIKE THE NATIVES, MOWING DOWN NATIVES AND SO FORTH.

DUMPING. SORRY, I TURN IT OFF. ALL RIGHT. CASCO POINTE RINK, I KIND OF THIS HAS A .

THIS USED TO BE MY BACKYARD WHEN I WAS GROWING UP.

SO I KIND OF HAVE A SOFT PART IN MY WHATEVER IN MY HEART FOR THIS, BUT I HAVE NO.

IF ANYONE ELSE WANTS TO TAKE IT, I'M FINE WITH THAT. WHY DON'T YOU PUT IT IN WITH THE CASCO POINT DRIVE RIGHT BY IT? SURE WE CAN DO. YEAH. WHY DON'T YOU DO THAT? BOTH OF THOSE. KIM CASCO POINT BEACH, WE HAVE THREE BEACHES.

FOUR BEACHES. I WOULD CALL IT THREE BEACHES ON THE LIST HERE.

WE ALSO HAVE BIG ISLAND AS A BIG BEACH AT IT, BUT I CAN TAKE THAT ONE SINCE IT'S GENERAL AREA.

OKAY. I'LL TAKE CRYSTAL BAY, BECAUSE THAT'S CLOSE TO ME.

OKAY. UNLESS PEOPLE DON'T AND FRENCH CREEK IS CLOSE TO ME, SO I CAN TAKE THOSE.

GREAT. DON'T BE A HERO, KIM. WELL, YEAH. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ONCE A MONTH, NOT 24 OVER SEVEN HERE.

OKAY, GREAT. SO WE'RE DOWN TO HACKBERRY. GORDIE AND I HAD STARTED WORKING ON THE HACKBERRY PLAN, AND THEN LAST YEAR, WE JUST SAID THAT ONE OF US SHOULD BE ACTUALLY ON THERE BECAUSE OF THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING THERE.

IF YOU WANT TO CONTINUE WITH THAT OR IF ANYONE ELSE HAS A PARTICULAR INTEREST IN HACKBERRY, IF GORDIE WANTS SOME HELP WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY.

I'VE TALKED TO I'VE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH A LOT OF THE RESIDENTS AROUND THERE.

OKAY. YEAH. ONCE THE FUNDING BECOMES MORE REAL ON THAT, THAT'S A BIGGER GROUP EFFORT FOR ALL OF US TO LEAN INTO.

THAT WAS A BIG YEAH. COULD BE A BIG PROJECT. SO BUT IN THE MEANTIME I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT WITH YOU, JENNY. YEAH. I'M FINE. I WOULD FRESH EYES ON THAT ONE SINCE WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING THINGS THERE AND AGAIN, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, GET OUT THERE, AND MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, SIMILAR TO WHAT GORDIE JUST SAID TONIGHT, REPORTED BACK ON THE BACKSTOPS, THE CONDITION, THE BACKSTOPS, THAT SORT OF THING.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR HERE IS FRENCH CREEK.

IS THAT KIM IS DOING FRENCH CREEK BECAUSE HE SHE VISITS THERE FREQUENTLY WITH HER DOG.

THE DOG WILL BE HAPPY. BRIAN WHO'S DOING CRYSTAL BAY.

KIM ALSO ALSO VOLUNTEERED FOR CRYSTAL BAY. WE SKIPPED OVER IT REAL QUICK.

BUT IF ANYONE ELSE HAS AN INTEREST. ALL RIGHT, MOLLY.

ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO. WE HAVE A SHOW DOWN HERE. WE HAVE FOR CRYSTAL BAY PARK.

I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T HEAR CRYSTAL BAY PARK. MOLLY ALSO HAS AN INTEREST IN CRYSTAL BAY PARK.

THAT'S THE ONE BY THE OLD POST. THE LITTLE POST OFFICE.

YOU GUYS CAN GO TOGETHER TO SEE EACH OTHER. ENOUGH.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO YOU'RE GOING TO CRYSTAL BAY PLAYGROUND? YES. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, SO WE'RE DOWN TO HACK? NO, WE'RE DOWN TO HIGHWOOD AGAIN. THIS IS JUST ONE NEAR MY NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT I REALLY DON'T HAVE MUCH CONNECTION TO IT.

IF ANYONE ELSE IS INTERESTED IN THAT'S A NATURE AREA.

I WAS THERE, THAT'S A COOL PART. YEAH. ARE YOU INTERESTED? YOU WANT IT? WELL, I'M INTERESTED IN A COUPLE OTHERS.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I MEAN, IF NOBODY WANTS IT, I CAN.

I'LL TAKE HIGHWOOD. OKAY. SINCE I LOST CRYSTAL.

ALL RIGHT. THE GOLF COURSE. I KNOW TWO PEOPLE ARE NEIGHBORS WITH GOLF COURSE.

GORDIE HAS BEEN DOING A LOT OF THE WORK THERE.

I KNOW THAT'S A PASSION OF HIS. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHY WE STARTED WITH THAT.

I WOULD LOVE TO BE IN ON THAT, TOO, BECAUSE I'M THERE EVERY DAY.

OKAY, GREAT. THAT'S ONE THAT. THAT'S ONE THAT PROBABLY DESERVES OF ANY OF THEM.

I WOULD AGREE, PROBABLY DESERVE TWO PEOPLE. SO LIVINGSTON TOWER, LIVINGSTON PARK BY THE WATER TOWER IN NAVARRE.

OH, I'D TAKE THAT ONE. OKAY, GREAT. CAN I ASK A QUESTION? WHICH ONE OF THESE ARE PARKS ARE ADOPTED? DO YOU KNOW?

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I'LL HAVE TO LOOK UP TO LOOK THAT UP. I CAN SEND THAT OUT TOMORROW.

OKAY. ADOPTED. WHO'S ADOPTED IT? AND AGAIN, JUST A REMINDER.

THIS IS LIKE REVISIT ANNUALLY. SO, YOU KNOW, YOU THROW YOUR NAME ON HERE EVEN IF YOU'VE NEVER BEEN TO THE PARK.

THAT'S ANOTHER REASON AND THEN IT'LL CHANGE UP NEXT YEAR.

SO I THINK WE ARE THROUGH LIVINGSTON. LOWRY WOODS IS SOMETHING WE'VE TALKED ABOUT FOR A WHILE.

I THINK THAT RICK BIKES BY THERE FREQUENTLY AND LIKES TO WALK UP THERE JUST TO CHECK IT OUT.

I THINK I'D LIKE THAT ONE. YOU'D LIKE THAT ONE TOO.

OKAY, SO WE SHOULD LET'S JUST TALK AFTERWARDS.

IF BOTH OF YOU HAVE INTEREST, THEN LET'S JUST FIGURE IT OUT.

AFTER THE [INAUDIBLE] A COUPLE OF NEIGHBORS REACHED OUT TO ME, AND THEY GAVE ME THE HISTORY AND YOU PROBABLY KNOW ALL OF THAT, RICK. YOU KNOW, BACK FROM THE NATURE CONSERVANCY ON.

SO THERE'S SOME INTERESTING DOCUMENTS TO. ABSOLUTELY.

YEAH. AND THERE'S NOTHING. JUST BECAUSE RICK'S NAME IS ON IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT ANYONE ELSE CAN'T CAN'T WORK ON IT EITHER.

SO DO YOU WANT ME TO STEP UP? YES, PLEASE. RICK CARTER 2017.

SO THE ISSUE AT LOWRY WOODS IS WE HAVE NO LEGAL PUBLIC ACCESS INTO THE PARK.

AND IF YOU ARE WILLING TO TAKE THAT ON, YOU CAN HAVE IT.

I'LL SIT DOWN WITH YOU AND TELL YOU THE WHOLE HISTORY.

BUT I GOT THE WHOLE ALL THE DOCUMENTS AND EVERYTHING.

BUT I WOULD NEED YOU TO SAY THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO SEE HAPPEN AND FOR WHAT REASON? BECAUSE WE HAVE A PARK THAT NO ONE CAN LEGALLY WALK INTO.

BUT NOT FOR BIKE MOUNTAIN BIKING. CORRECT? OKAY.

PHYSICALLY WALK INTO. THERE'S NO LEGAL ACCESS, RIGHT.

BECAUSE INTO LOWRY WOODS THERE'S NEW THERE ARE NEW NEIGHBORS THERE.

HAS ANYBODY IS THE CITY INTERESTED? WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT NONSTOP FOR FIVE YEARS.

SO CAN GIVE YOU THE HISTORY THAT HE'S SAYING HE'LL TRANSITION TO YOU IS NOT JUST THE HISTORY OF THE PARK.

IT'S THE HISTORY OF US WORKING THROUGH TOWARDS GETTING THIS ACCESS.

YEAH, I'VE TALKED TO ALL THE NEIGHBORS. TALK TO THE REALTORS, NOT THE NEWEST NEIGHBOR, BUT ABSOLUTELY.

IF YOU'RE WILLING TO CARRY THAT TORCH, I'LL SIT DOWN WITH YOU AND HAND IT ALL OFF.

I MEAN, I THINK IT'S A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING, YOU KNOW, ALL THE PROPERTIES SURROUNDING THAT PROBABLY NEED TO COME BACK TOGETHER AGAIN AND TALK ABOUT WHAT THAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE.

HOWEVER YOU WANT TO DO IT. WHAT'S THAT? OH, I WAS JUST SAYING.

HOWEVER YOU WANT TO PROCEED. YEAH. I'D LOVE TO HEAR THAT.

YEAH. SOUNDS GOOD. ALL RIGHT. LAWTON PARK. I KNOW WE HAVE SOME DOG.

I'M THERE ALMOST EVERY DAY. DOG. I'M HAPPY TO TAKE THAT, BRIAN.

UNLESS YOU REALLY LIKE IT. I TOOK MY NAME OFF OF IT.

I'M SORRY. I'M LOOKING AT THE. YEAH. THAT'S OKAY. I'LL TAKE THAT ONE.

MY DOG IS AILING A LITTLE BIT, SO HE'S NOT GOING TO BE AT THE PARK VERY OFTEN, SO HE WILL BE HAPPIER.

MICHAEL, YOU HAVEN'T? OH, YEAH, YOU HAVE ANTOINE.

YEAH. I DON'T WANT TO IN JACOB ANY OF THESE. THAT RING A BELL? OKAY. SO WE'LL WE'LL MOVE ON. LYDIARD BEACH IS IN NAVARRE, BEHIND THE LENS.

I WAS GOING TO VOLUNTEER FOR NAVARRE PLAYGROUND.

OKAY, I GUESS I CAN DO BOTH OF THOSE. ALL RIGHT.

GREAT. THANK YOU. MICHAEL. SAGA HILL AGAIN? NOTHING.

MIKE, COULD I ARGUE WITH YOU FOR THE NAVARRE PLAYGROUND? WHAT'S THAT? HERE WE GO. NOT. I SHOULDN'T SAY, ARGUE WITH YOU.

WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO LET ME HAVE THE NAVARRE PLAYGROUND? SURE. HE ALREADY HAS LIVINGSTON UP THE STREET AS WELL.

YEAH, I THINK I HAD THE TWO CONFUSED A LITTLE BIT, TOO. SORRY.

SO YOU WANT TO TAKE THEM BOTH, THEN? NOT THE BEACH, JUST THE TWO.

THOSE TWO PLAYGROUNDS. OKAY. IT'S A GREAT BEACH, THOUGH.

OKAY. SAGA, IF IT'S OKAY WITH YOU GUYS, I'D LIKE TO KEEP THAT ONE JUST BECAUSE IT'S I'M NEIGHBORS THERE.

NOT TO SAY IT'S. YOU GUYS CAN'T GO OUT AND VISIT FOR SURE, BECAUSE IT'S AWESOME.

SANDY BEACH, THAT IS THAT'S ON NORTH ARM, KIND OF BY THE NORTH ARM LAUNCH OFF OF 19 ADOPTED ONE. YES. WE HAD A COMMISSIONER WHO WAS A NEIGHBOR WHO JENNIFER HAD ADOPTED, AND I THINK THAT SHE STILL HAS. WHAT DO YOU WHAT ARE YOUR OBLIGATIONS OR WHAT IS THERE A TRANSFER OF MONEY? WHAT DO YOU DO WHEN YOU ADOPT A PARK? NO. IT'S ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO BE MAINTAINING IT TO SOME EXTENT?

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WE JUST APPRECIATE THEIR ENGAGEMENT, WITH PARK SYSTEM.

SO SOMETIMES THEY'LL REPORT BACK TO US AND SOMETIMES THEY WON'T.

BUT AND MAYBE, JOE, YOU CAN COMMUNICATE A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT YOUR INTERACTIONS BECAUSE YOU PROBABLY HEAR MORE THAN THAN I DO.

BUT I JUST WANT TO COMMENT THAT ON THIS. THERE IS A SUBCOMMITTEE ON THE SECOND PAGE THAT WE'LL GET TO NEXT.

TALKING ABOUT THE ADOPTED PARK PROGRAM AND SO YOU COULD HELP ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

ANYONE WHO WANTS TO BE INVOLVED IN THAT. SANDY BEACHES UP NEAR HIGHWOOD.

SO KIM'S GOT THAT ONE TOO. I'M HAPPY TO TAKE THAT ONE BECAUSE THAT'S CLOSE TO OR MICHAEL IF YOU WANT TO TAKE IT. IT'S ANOTHER BEACH. IT'S KIND OF A SIMILAR SIMILAR I AND IT'S NEAR ANTOINE.

I'M NOT TRYING TO CONVINCE ANYONE. BUT. NO, IT'S ON NORTH ARM.

YEAH, I CAN DO THAT ONE. THAT'S SANDY BEACH. MICHAEL? YEAH. OKAY, COOL. THANK YOU. SEVEN NATIONS. I KNOW I THINK SOME OF YOU GUYS HAD INTEREST IN THAT. JACOB WAS. WERE YOU THAT SAID LIKE THAT PARK? I LIKE THAT, TOO. YEAH, THE SIMPLE ONE. ARM WRESTLE.

[INAUDIBLE]. KIND OF LOOKING TOWARDS THAT SUMMIT BEACH IN EAST LONG LAKE TRAIL A LITTLE BIT.

I'LL GO DO SEVEN NATIONS. OKAY. YOU'RE GETTING ALL THESE DOWN, RIGHT? AND I'M NOT KEEPING COUNT EITHER. YEP. I HAVE IT ALL EXCEPT FOR KIM, WHO'S UP TO, LIKE, 13.

WE'LL SEND THIS OUT TO YOU GUYS. UPDATED WITH ALL THE JUST KIM EVERYTHING.

SO IT'LL BE EASY. WE APPRECIATE. WE APPRECIATE IT, KIM.

THANKS. AND THANKS, JACOB. SUMMIT BEACH. THAT'D BE GREAT.

GREAT. I DON'T KNOW WHO WOULD DO THE DONATION.

GARDEN. GOING ONCE. WHO'S DOING SUMMIT BEACH? I'M SORRY I MISSED MIKE. HAD THE WHAT? WHAT DID.

JAKE MIKE. SUMMIT BEACH. YOU DID. YOU WERE ON THE DONATION GARDEN.

YEAH. YOU DON'T WANT IT ANYMORE? WELL, I MEAN, I THINK SOMEBODY SHOULD LOOK OVER ME.

I'LL DO THAT. OKAY. WE ALL BE ON THAT ONE? YOU'RE THE ONLY PARK COMMISSIONER THAT OUR COUNCIL PERSON THAT EVER CAME TO THE GARDEN.

OKAY, WELL, I'LL DO THAT AGAIN. OKAY, GREAT. COOL.

ALL RIGHT. WE'RE DOWN TO PAVED TRAILS NOW, WHERE, AS WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, RICK CARTER IS ONE HE'D BE HAPPY TO.

AND I THINK IT DESERVES A SECOND PERSON. ANYONE PARTICULARLY INTERESTED IN BIG BIKERS ON BOARD HERE? IT CERTAINLY WOULD BE HAPPY TO HELP WITH THAT.

OKAY. RICK IS GREAT TO WORK WITH, TOO.

LIKE ACCESS POINTS? OH, YEAH. SO THAT HAS TWO PEOPLE AS WELL.

I'M SUPER INTERESTED IN THAT ONE. OKAY. THAT WAS THE LEAD ON IT LAST YEAR.

DO YOU WANT TO STAY? DO YOU WANT TO STAY ON IT? OKAY, GREAT. THAT WOULD BE GREAT FOR TRANSITION OF KNOWLEDGE.

I DON'T NEED MY NAME ON IT, BUT I'M INTERESTED.

THAT'S FINE. NO. GO AHEAD. I THINK I'M OKAY. YOU'RE GOOD.

ARE YOU SURE? ALL RIGHT. SO, MICHAEL, I THINK MICHAEL, ONCE AGAIN, JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE DESIGNATED FOR THAT PARK DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN'T HELP OUT.

YEAH. ALRIGHT. YEAH. WE JUST WANT ONE, AT LEAST ONE PERSON WHO'S FOCUSED ON THAT COMMITTED TO THAT.

ALL RIGHT, THAT SOUNDS GOOD. ANY REGRETS? ANYONE? TOO LATE. YOU'RE STUCK NOW. ALL RIGHT, SO LET'S GO BACK TO THE OTHER PAGE.

SO THE OTHER THING WE DO AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR IS WE FORMALIZE WHAT OUR AND COMMUNICATE OUT TO THE PUBLIC WHAT OUR FOCUSES ARE FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR.

THIS IS ONE THAT WE DID DO THAT EXERCISE IN FEBRUARY TO THE POINT OF IDENTIFYING WHAT THE FOCUSES ARE AND SLOTTING SOME PEOPLE IN AS SUBCOMMITTEES ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE.

SO HOW WE'VE FOUND WE ARE WE WORK BEST IS BY SPLITTING OUT AND FOCUSING KIND OF DIVIDING AND CONQUERING AND FOCUSING ON THESE OR WORKING IN SUBCOMMITTEES AND THEN BRINGING THE SUBCOMMITTEE, THEN BRINGS

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STAFF IS INVOLVED IN MOST OF THESE SUBCOMMITTEES WHERE WE'RE NECESSARY AND SO THESE ARE THE FOCUSES FOR 2025. I DO HAVE A PROPOSAL TO ADD PROBABLY TWO FOCUSES THAT HAVE COME UP KIND OF IN THE RECENT MONTHS SINCE WE DID THIS DOCUMENT AND BECAUSE WE HAVE NOW A FULL COMMISSION, WE HAVE MORE HORSEPOWER TO BE ABLE TO DO TO ADD, TO DO SOME MORE WORK.

SO I'M GOING TO ADD, I'M GOING TO PROPOSE THAT WE ADD TWO OF THEM, AND THEN WE'LL GO BACK AND WE'LL GET VOLUNTEERS FOR THE SUBCOMMITTEES.

IF THAT'S OKAY WITH YOU GUYS. ALL RIGHT. SO ONE THING THAT RECENTLY CAME UP IS ALTHOUGH IT HASN'T BEEN APPROVED, IT IS STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION THAT FOR 2026 THE NORTH ARM DRIVE IS RECONSTRUCTED.

THAT WAS WE HAD BEEN TALKING FOR YEARS NOW ABOUT POSSIBLY ADDING A WALKING TRAIL ALONG NORTH ARM DRIVE. IT'S SOMETHING THE PREVIOUS COMMISSIONS HAVE SUPPORTED BUT HAS BEEN ON HOLD BECAUSE IT'S MORE COST EFFECTIVE TO CREATE THE TRAIL WHEN WE RECONSTRUCT THE ROAD. THAT ROAD NOW IS ON THE PROPOSAL FROM STAFF IS TO DO THAT IN 2026, WHICH MEANS THE COMMISSION PARKS COMMISSION SHOULD DO OUR WORK TO HELP WITH DESIGNING THAT TRAIL IN 2025. SO IT GETS BUILT WITH THE ROAD IN 26. EXACTLY.

YEAH. SO, THAT'S ON THE EAST SIDE. IT'S ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE BAY.

OKAY AND IT GOES RIGHT BETWEEN THE OLD LAKEVIEW GOLF COURSE AND NORTH ARM BAY.

THERE'S A PARK THERE THAT I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO VISIT, WHICH IS THE LAKEVIEW LEGACY PARK.

IT IS NOT A CITY OWNED PARK. IT'S A PRIVATELY FUNDED PARK, BUT IT WAS CREATED WHEN THEY DEVELOPED WHEN THE GOLF COURSE UNFORTUNATELY WENT AWAY AND THE GOLF COURSE WAS DEVELOPED. A FORMER COMMISSIONER, BRYCE JOHNSON WAS KIND OF THE LEADER AS WELL AS MAYBE 1 OR 2 OTHER COMMISSIONERS WERE LEADERS IN BOTH DESIGNING AND IMPLEMENTING THAT PARK, BUT THEN AND ALSO FUNDING THAT PARK. IT'S A PHENOMENAL EXAMPLE OF HOW PARKS, I THINK NATURE, LOW NATURE AREAS SHOULD BE AND SO I'M SORRY, THE REASON I BROUGHT IT UP IS BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE WALK ALONG THIS NORTH ARM DRIVE, AND IT DOESN'T HAVE A WALKING A GOOD SHOULDER TO WALK ON RIGHT NOW AND SO TO GO UP AND BACK TO THIS PARK, TO ACCESS THIS PARK, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT PUTTING THIS THIS TRAIL IN WASN'T THAT PARK, THOUGH.

PART OF THE REQUIREMENT FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT TO THE DEVELOPER DID REACH AN AGREEMENT WITH THIS PRIVATE GROUP ON FUNDS OR DONATING LAND OR. THERE WERE SOME COVENANTS THERE.

YEAH. CAN YOU BRIAN, CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT HOW SUBCOMMITTEES WORK WHEN YOU MEET, HOW YOU MEET, WHERE YOU MEET, THAT KIND OF THING? SURE. YEAH.

SO THERE WILL BE 2 OR 3. MEMBERS. OKAY. NO MORE THAN THREE.

OKAY. BECAUSE WE WANT TO WE ADHERE TO OPEN MEETING LAW.

OKAY. BUT IF YOU HAVE THREE OR FEWER, THEN THIS GROUP CAN GO AND MEET HOW FREQUENTLY OR INFREQUENTLY THAT THEY WANT, AS LONG AS THEY'RE GETTING THE WORK DONE, I GUESS THEY CAN MEET WHEREVER THEY WANT.

THEY'RE ONLY DOING THE WORK THAT THEN THEY BRING BACK AND REPORT BACK TO THE GREATER COMMISSION.

JOEL. NO. COME BACK TO THE GREATER COMMISSION TO REPORT BACK TO US SO YOU CAN TALK TO ME ABOUT IT ANYTIME IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.

IT WOULD JUST BE ONCE YOU HAVE A PLAN OR AN IDEA OF WHAT YOU WANT, AND THEN YOU BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION TO VOTE OR.

YEAH. SO HACKBERRY PARK IS A GOOD EXAMPLE. THAT'S ONE THAT GORDIE AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON.

WE WORK WITH STAFF, AND GETS THE ENGINEERS OR WHOMEVER ELSE INVOLVED.

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EARLY ON AND THEN THROUGH THE DESIGN PROCESS.

SO THAT'S JUST A GOOD EXAMPLE. BUT WE COME BACK THEN AND REPORT BACK TO THE COMMISSION HERE ABOUT SOME OF THE IDEAS THAT WE HAVE AND GET YOUR INPUT AS WELL. BUT IT'S THE STRATEGY IS KIND OF DIVIDE AND CONQUER KIND OF STRATEGY.

OKAY. OKAY. WHAT'S COUNTY ROAD 19 TRAIL MARKING.

WHAT DID YOU ASK? WHAT IS OH WHAT IS COUNTY ROAD 19 TRAIL MARKING.

WHY DON'T WE HAVE. WELL, BEFORE RICK COMES UP, I'D LIKE RICK TO COME UP AND TALK ABOUT THE TRAILS.

FOCUS HERE, BUT. SO I'M GOING TO PROPOSE. MAYBE WE CAN TAKE A QUICK VOTE ON THIS.

I'M GOING TO PROPOSE THAT WE ADD A SUBCOMMITTEE AND A FOCUS FOR 2025 FOR THE NORTH ARM DRIVE TRAIL. CAN YOU PROVIDE US WITH A MAP OF THAT? ABSOLUTELY. AND AGAIN, THIS ISN'T A COMMITMENT TO DO ANYTHING.

IT'S JUST A FORMING AN AD HOC COMMITTEE THAT WILL GO THROUGH 2025.

IF NECESSARY, WE'LL GO BEYOND 2025 TO DO A LOT OF THE WORK.

SO I I THINK I MADE A MOTION TO ADD THAT HE'S HAD A PROPOSAL, BUT I ACTUALLY MEAN A MOTION.

YES. DO I HEAR A SECOND TO ADD THAT? YEAH, I THINK WE GOT MICHAEL.

THANK YOU. WHOEVER WAS FIRST, BECAUSE HE LIVES CLOSER.

ALL RIGHT, SO SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL OPPOSED? ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. THAT MOVES. THIS THE SECOND ONE THAT I WOULD PROPOSE THAT WE ADD IS SOMETHING THAT CAME UP BOTH WITH COMMISSIONERS, WITH NEW COMMISSIONERS, WITH EXISTING COMMISSIONERS AND WITH OUTSIDE OF THIS WITH WHICH IS I THINK WE MIGHT NEED AND COULD USE THE CITY COULD USE A MORE A GUIDING DOCUMENT THAT WOULD HELP US WITH THE WHAT I CALL THE PORTFOLIO MANAGEMENT OF OUR PARKS. OKAY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SCOPE OF IT IS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

ALL I'M PROPOSING TODAY IS THAT WE DEFINE A GROUP THAT CAN WORK ON DECIDING WHETHER THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO DO AND WHAT KIND OF WHAT IT WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.

PART OF THAT WORK WOULD BE BRINGING IDEAS, INITIAL IDEAS BACK TO THE BACK TO THE COMMISSION, PROBABLY IN A WORK SESSION, OR MAYBE EVEN TWO, WHERE WE CAN ALL CONTRIBUTE OUR IDEAS TO THAT.

BUT THE MY PROPOSAL AND I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION BEFORE I MAKE THE MOTION IS TO ADD THAT AS ANOTHER 2025 FOCUS, I WOULD ADD THAT TO ME, IT WOULD BE A GUIDING DOCUMENT THAT WE WOULD USE TO INFORM OUR DECISIONS.

IT WOULD BE PUBLIC. WE WOULD TAKE IT TO COUNCIL FOR BUY IN SO THAT WE CAN REFER TO IT WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT THINGS.

SO WE'RE CONSTANTLY WE'RE BEING CONSISTENT IN HOW WE APPROACH THE WORK.

YEAH. AND IT'S A LONG TERM. BUT SUCCESS IS THAT THE DECISIONS WE MAKE ARE MORE TRANSPARENT THROUGH A PREDETERMINED PROCESS TO MAKE THAT. YES. THANK YOU AND MY VISION, I THINK, AND YOURS IS KIND OF IT'S A LONG TERM GUIDING DOCUMENT. IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT A YEAR OR TWO OR WHATEVER.

IT'S SOMETHING TO ME. IT'S LIKE A TOOL WE USE FOR ALMOST EVERYTHING. SOMETHING THAT WILL BE THERE.

KIND OF A MISSION STATEMENT ALMOST, THAT, YOU KNOW, WE COULD UPDATE.

IT'S GOT TO BE A LITTLE MORE THAN A MISSION. IT'S GOT TO HAVE SOME TEETH IN IT SO WE CAN ACTUALLY USE IT TO MAKE DECISIONS.

AND I DON'T KNOW HOW WE'RE GOING TO GET THERE EXACTLY. BUT. WELL, YOU CAN PROBABLY BE ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE I WOULD LIKE TO BE ON. YEAH, THOSE ARE GOOD IDEAS. SO BUT I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE INTEREST IN LET'S BACK UP AND LOOK AT HOW WE MAKE DECISIONS.

BECAUSE WITH FOR NEW PEOPLE, WE DON'T I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THE CONTEXT THAT THE THREE OF YOU DO AND I THINK PUTTING THIS TOGETHER GIVES US THE ABILITY TO BUILD THAT CONTEXT WELL.

AND WE MIGHT EVEN HAVE DIFFERENT IDEAS. YEAH.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S SO. YEAH. SO IS THIS FOCUS IN STONE? YES. IF WE CAN'T ACTUALLY GRANT IT IN ONE OF OUR PARKS, IT EXISTS.

NO. THE SO I MEAN, WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOUR FOCUS.

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COMMISSIONERS. A NEW COUNCIL AND A NEW PARK SUPERINTENDENT.

SHOULDN'T WE REALLY BE DOING A DEEP DIVE ON THIS AND SEE IF THIS IS WHERE WE'RE ALL AT? I THINK THAT FOCUS. LET'S JUST TERMINOLOGY, WE MAY BE TRIPPING UP ON TERMINOLOGY.

SO THERE ARE EIGHT FOCUSES FOCI FOR 2025. SEVEN I AM AN ACCOUNTANT. THERE ARE SEVEN FOCI FOR 2025 THAT WERE APPROVED THAT WE CAME UP WITH LAST YEAR THROUGH THE GOAL SETTING PROCESS AND WERE APPROVED BY THE COMMISSION.

I WOULD NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE BECAUSE OF THAT.

I WOULD NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE TAKING OR REMOVING ANY OF THESE OFF, BUT I DO FEEL LIKE WE COULD ADD A EIGHTH AND NINTH FOCUS, WHICH WOULD BE A SUBCOMMITTEE FOR THE NORTH ARM DRIVE TRAIL.

AND A SUBCOMMITTEE FOR THIS GUIDING LONG TERM GUIDING DOCUMENT FOR PARKS COMMISSION AND THAT THEN THE GUIDING DOCUMENT, I MEAN, I WOULD SEE THAT, TOO, AS HELPING TO INFORM HOW WE GO FORWARD, LET'S SAY, IN 2026. SO WHEN WE GET TO THE POINT IN TIME WHERE WE START PLANNING FOR THE NEXT YEAR, WE'VE GOT GUIDING PRINCIPLES IN TERMS OF HOW WE PUT THE NEXT LIST TOGETHER.

EXACTLY AND THERE IS ALSO NEXT YEAR WILL BE THE PROCESS OF UPDATING THE 2025 COMP PLAN, WHICH WE HAVE 2040 COMP PLAN RIGHT NOW AND THAT'S THE GUIDING DOCUMENT THAT EXISTS FOR THE PARK.

PARK COMMISSION. THIS WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT MORE MEATY.

GIVE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE CONTEXT AND IT'S SIMILAR TO WHAT OTHER CITIES, YOU KNOW, OTHER CITIES HAVE BEEN GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS AS WELL. THIS IS A GOOD TIME TO DO IT BECAUSE WE HAVE A FULL COMMISSION AND WE HAVE MORE PEOPLE AND WE HAVE THE INTEREST TO DO IT.

SO COULD THAT BE ON THIS LIST? THAT'S WHAT I'M PROPOSING.

SO THAT'S ON THE 2020, 2050. THE NEW COMP PLAN.

THAT WOULD BE THAT'S WORK THAT IS LED BY STAFF.

IT'LL BE LED BY STAFF NEXT YEAR THAT WE WOULD HAVE INPUT FOR.

BUT THIS BUT OUR GUIDING DOCUMENT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE COULD BE A NICE INPUT FOR THAT PROCESS.

YEAH YOU'LL HAVE INPUT IN THAT. OKAY. BUT BRIAN I WANT TO JUST SAY MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE FOR ALL OF US TO LOOK AT THIS. SINCE THIS WAS DECIDED BY A WHOLE, YOU KNOW, A DIFFERENT PARK COMMISSION AND WE HAVE FOUR NEW MEMBERS, WE HAVE A NEW COUNCIL, AND WE HAVE A NEW PARK SUPERINTENDENT.

SO, I'M WONDERING IF WE SHOULD JUST SHOULDN'T EXAMINE THIS A LITTLE CLOSER BEFORE WE MAKE A MOTION ON IT AND VOTE ON IT, BECAUSE I'M NOT ENTIRELY IN AGREEMENT WITH ALL OF THESE PROJECTS.

AND MAYBE THERE'S A DIFFERENT DIRECTION WE COULD GO OR, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW DO THE REST OF YOU FEEL? I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD TO GO THROUGH EACH ONE AND TALK ABOUT WHAT IS EXPECTED, BECAUSE WHEN I MET WITH BRIAN TO GET TO KNOW YOU, LIKE, I LEARNED THAT PICKLEBALL REALLY IS IN THE HANDS OF THE FUNDRAISERS AND THERE'S REALLY NOT MUCH WE'RE DOING, WHICH IS UNUSUAL, BUT THAT'S A DIFFERENT PIECE OF WORK FOR US THAN, SAY, THE GOLF COURSE.

SO MAYBE WE SHOULD GO THROUGH LIKE WHERE THEY ARE AND THAT JUST THAT PICKLEBALL ONE IS ODD TO ME THAT WE'RE NOT DRIVING IT.

YEAH. I MEAN, MAYBE IT COULD BE LIKE I'M HAPPY TO GO THROUGH.

YEAH. ONE THING. THE SUBCOMMITTEES ARE TO THE PARK COMMISSION.

WHAT THE PARK COMMISSION IS TO CITY COUNCIL. YEAH.

SO THEY'RE JUST A SUBCOMMITTEE TO WORK THROUGH ALL THESE THINGS THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO DO IN THE FULL GROUP.

OTHERWISE, WE'D BE HERE TILL MIDNIGHT. BUT MY QUESTION IS, ARE THESE THE PROJECTS THAT WE WANT TO FOCUS ON? WELL, IN FACT, WHAT BRIAN'S DOING IS HE'S ADDING A COUPLE.

THESE HAVE ALREADY BEEN VOTED ON AND MOTIONS MADE, AND THEY'VE BEEN ACCEPTED.

THEY'RE ALREADY SET IN STONE, LIKE YOU SAID IN GRANITE.

OKAY. WELL, I JUST WANTED TO PUT IT ON THE RECORD THAT THEY WERE DONE BY A COUNCIL OR A COMMISSION AND NOW WE HAVE FOUR

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AND I WOULD I'LL SECOND HIS MOTION. BUT THEN I WOULD ALSO SAY, I THINK WE ALMOST DISCUSSED ANOTHER FOCUS GROUP AROUND POLLINATORS AND MONARCHS, THAT IS, SHOULD THERE BE A SUBCOMMITTEE NOW, SOMEBODY THAT'S INTERESTED IN DOING THAT.

SO YOU CAN HAVE 12 OF THESE THINGS IF YOU GOT PEOPLE THAT WANT TO WORK ON THEM.

SO IF THERE'S THINGS THAT YOU DO WANT TO HAVE ON THE AGENDA, YOU JUST BRING THEM TO THE COUNCIL AND HISTORICALLY, THERE'S BEEN THINGS JUST DURING THE YEAR THAT COME UP THAT, YOU KNOW, GET MOMENTUM AND PEOPLE HAVE INTEREST IN AND WE TALK ABOUT IT AND THAT KIND OF BECOMES A FOCUS. SO A LOT OF THESE HAVE LIKE A LOT OF YEARS BEHIND THEM.

THAT TAKES LONG TERM PLANNING. LIKE HACKBERRY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S LIKE A WHOLE PROCESS FOR THAT GAINING INPUT AND SO I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT AGAIN, LIKE TO YOUR POINT, LIKE CITY COUNCIL DECIDES ON ALL THIS, YOU KNOW, WE CAN NONE OF THIS MAY EVER BUBBLE UP TO THE POINT WHERE THEY HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION ON IT. WELL, THAT'S MY POINT, IS THAT ARE THESE THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS? BUT IF IT'S SET IN STONE, BRIAN, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

THEN LET'S JUST RUN THROUGH THEM REALLY QUICK.

YEAH. SO WHAT I WOULD CALL SET IN STONE IF DON'T QUOTE ME CONTEXT HERE, BUT THEY'LL COME BACK TO US AND AS NEW COMMISSIONERS, WE CAN EXPRESS AN OPINION. YES.

WHEN A SUBCOMMITTEE SAYS RIGHT OR LEFT. SO I THINK THAT'S HOW WE CAN WHAT HAS BEEN DECIDED OR VOTED ON AND WHAT I WOULD NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE CHANGING BECAUSE OF IT IS THE FIRST COLUMN.

AND I GUESS THE SECOND COLUMN BUT AS FAR AS THOSE ARE JUST FOCUSES THE FOURTH COLUMN, THE FIFTH COLUMN SOMEWHAT IS UP TO DEBATE.

I MEAN, WE HAVE NOT REFRESHED THE SPECIFIC GOALS WITHIN THE FOCUS THIS YEAR OR THE SPECIFIC MILESTONES WITHIN THE GOALS WITHIN THE FOCUS THIS YEAR. THAT'S FOR THE SUBCOMMITTEE TO DO AND SO I JUST FOR THE JUST SO YOU KNOW, EVERYONE KNOWS YOU KNOW, WHAT'S UP HERE, WHAT'S FOR DEBATE AND SO FORTH.

I THINK THAT WE I WOULD PROPOSE THAT WE CONTINUE ON WITH THE SEVEN FOCUSES THAT WE'VE ALREADY THAT WE'VE ALREADY VOTED ON.

I AM WE HAVE NOW AN EIGHTH ONE WHICH IS THE NORTH ARM TRAIL.

I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADD A GUIDING DOCUMENT SUBCOMMITTEE AS OUR NINTH ONE.

DO I HEAR A SECOND? SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? OKAY.

OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT, SO THAT PASSED. DO YOU SAY NO? YEAH. OH, YOU SAID NO. OKAY. SO YOU THINK YOU ABSTAIN.

I THINK WE SHOULD DO A DEEPER DIVE ON THIS, BUT THAT.

OKAY. SO JUST FOR THE RECORD. FOR THE RECORD, YOU VOTED NO FOR ADDING NO A NINTH.

I TAKE THAT BACK. OKAY. EIGHTH AND NINTH ADDED IN.

OKAY. SO FOR THE RECORD, THERE ARE SEVEN YESES.

BUT ISN'T IT FOR ALSO FOR THE WHOLE FOCUS? NO, THAT WASN'T WHAT THE MOTION WAS FOR.

OKAY. I WAS I WOULD ENTERTAIN ANOTHER MOTION IF YOU WANT TO ADD A 10TH ONE, WHICH IS AROUND THE MONARCHS.

I THINK THAT'S A VIABLE FOCUS GROUP. I DON'T PARTICULARLY WANT TO BE THE PERSON, YOU KNOW, ON THAT SUBCOMMITTEE, BUT I'M JUST SAYING THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE THERE WAS SOME ENERGY AROUND THAT AND THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE THAT HAVE THEM ALREADY.

I THINK BROADENING THAT SCOPE OUT TO THE CITY AND THE PUBLIC AND I THINK THAT'S A GREAT THING TO DO.

OKAY. AND MAYBE JUST YOUR INPUT DO ANYTHING ELSE THERE THAT WE CAN LOOK AT.

JOE, DO YOU FEEL LIKE THIS IS AT A POINT WHERE A SUBCOMMITTEE IS APPROPRIATE AND USEFUL? BECAUSE THIS IS KIND OF A STAFF INITIATIVE AT THIS POINT? I WOULD SAY MOST OF IT'S GOING TO BE DONE THROUGH STAFF, BUT I THINK A LOT OF THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH.

AND THAT ASPECTS OF IT COULD BE HELPFUL TO HAVE A, YOU KNOW, A COMMITTEE THAT COULD HELP WITH IT OR JUST EVEN JUST

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OKAY. THERE'S A LOT OF KNOWLEDGE, I THINK IF NOTHING ELSE, IT'S A SHOW OF OUR COMMITMENT TO THE INITIATIVE.

OKAY, SO WE'RE ADDING THAT. NO, I HAVEN'T HEARD A MOTION YET TO DO THAT.

DID YOU A MOTION? OKAY. I'M NOT ASKING FOR VOLUNTEERS.

JUST ASKING FOR SOMEONE TO. I WILL CREATE A MOTION TO ADD A SUBCOMMITTEE FOR 2025 WHOSE FOCUS IS ON THE MAYOR'S MONARCH PROJECT INITIATIVE. I SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OKAY. YOU CAN'T JUST ADD THESE AS WE GO, RIGHT? SO WE HAVE A VISUAL AS WE GO THROUGH THE NEXT STEP.

IT'S GOING TO BE. IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO. OH, NO, BECAUSE I MADE THIS A PDF SO I WOULDN'T SCREW IT UP, BUT I CAN I'LL SEND THIS OUT TO YOU GUYS TOMORROW WITH ALL THE UPDATES I COME DOWN.

THE NEXT STEP IS NOW TO SLAP PEOPLE'S NAMES TO THESE SUBCOMMITTEES.

SO THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN HELPFUL JUST TO DO IT ON THE FLY.

BUT AGAIN, WE'LL GO FROM THE TOP DOWN. AGAIN, RICK HAS BEEN LEADING THE TRAILS SUBCOMMITTEE FOR YEARS.

HE'S WILLING TO TAKE ON SOMEONE TO GET UP TO SPEED AND GIVE SOME HISTORY AND SO FORTH.

WE THIS IS A LITTLE BIT REDUNDANT WITH THE OTHER TRAILS, WHICH I CAN'T REMEMBER WHO WAS ON THE TRAILS ON THE OTHER PAGE. OH, JANIE. YES, JACOB. OH, JACOB. OKAY.

CAN I STEP UP? YEAH. OF COURSE. OH. I'M SORRY.

YES. THIS IS A GOOD EXAMPLE. THIS COMMITTEE PROBABLY EXISTED AS LONG OR LONGER THAN ANY OF THEM.

IT CAME RIGHT OUT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. IF YOU HAVEN'T READ THE PARK SECTION OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, PLEASE DO, BECAUSE THAT'S A GOOD FOUNDATIONAL DOCUMENT.

PROBABLY TWO THIRDS OF WHAT WE DO NOW HAVE COME TO US SINCE THAT PLAN WAS CAST IN STONE.

I THINK I'VE BEEN ON THIS ONE THE WHOLE TIME, BUT IT'S BEEN VERY INCONSISTENT.

SO I WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND JACOB, IF YOU'RE WILLING, ANYBODY ELSE WHO WANTS TO BE ON THE COMMITTEE, I WILL SIT DOWN WITH YOU AND THOSE PEOPLE AND HAND OFF ANY KNOWLEDGE I HAVE ABOUT THOSE POOR THINGS OR ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO DO, AND THEN STEP ASIDE. SO JUST FOR CLARITY, THE PARK ASSIGNMENTS PAVED TRAIL, THAT'S MORE THAT'S EXISTING TRAILS AND IT'S KIND OF EYES ON THE EXISTING TRAILS. THESE ARE THIS IS ALSO RELATED TO PAVED TRAILS MOSTLY I THINK.

BUT IT'S TALKING ABOUT KIND OF NEW AND IMPROVED TRAILS.

THAT RIGHT RICK. WHERE'S THE COUNTY ROAD 19. THAT IS A TRAIL THAT WOULD OSTENSIBLY CONNECT THE DAKOTA TRAIL WITH THE.

NOT DONE YET. YEAH, WE DID THE PART FROM DAKOTA TRAIL TO THE INTERSECTION RIGHT TONIGHT TO DOWNTOWN [INAUDIBLE]. OH THAT ONE. OKAY, SO THE REST OF THE WAY FROM HIGHWAY FIVE DOWN TO THE TRAIL THAT CUTS HIGHWAY 15.

COUNTY ROUTE 15. YEP. IF YOU'VE RIDDEN IT FOR BIKE, WHICH PEOPLE DO CONSTANTLY, IT'S VERY DANGEROUS AND IT'S REALLY THE ONLY PLACE YOU CAN CROSS THE LAKE BETWEEN THE EAST END AND THE WEST END.

SO THERE ARE OTHER MAYORS HAVE AGREED TO COLLABORATE TO GET SOMETHING TO HAPPEN THERE AND WE HAVE A NEW HENNEPIN COUNTY COMMISSIONER WHO'S THAT'S THE PLACE TO START WITH. SO THAT WOULD BE A HIGH PRIORITY.

YEAH AND THIS IS A COUNTY ROAD. IT'S NOT EVEN A CITY ROAD.

IT WOULD JUST BE US INFLUENCING ACCOMMODATED.

BRIDGE IS BUILT TO ACCOMMODATE IT. OTHER CITIES ARE WILLING TO TALK ABOUT IT, SO AND THERE'S PLENTY OF RIGHT OF WAYS JUST THEY'RE NOT GOING TO REBUILD THAT ROAD ANYTIME SOON. SO I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE TRAIL MARKING CAME UP.

IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING OTHER THAN A PAVED TRAIL.

WHERE DO YOU HOPE IT CONNECTS TO? LIKE RIGHT ON THE UP IN THE SIDEWALKS IN NAVARRE OR THE PARKING LOT BEHIND THERE? YEAH. IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, THE DAKOTA TRAIL HAS AN OFFSHOOT THAT COMES DOWN AND STOPS AT THE INTERSECTION.

YEAH. THE INTERSECTION IS DESIGNED FOR A PLACE THAT WILL HAVE A BIKE TRAIL CROSSING AND THEN GET TO THE OTHER SIDE.

THERE'S IS JUST OKAY. YEAH, THAT WAS THE OKAY, NOW I KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN.

WE DID THAT TWO YEARS AGO. THE CITY CALLED THE DAKOTA TRAIL CONNECTOR, I THINK IS WHAT WE REFERRED TO IT AS. YEAH. SO WE CAN HIT ALL FOUR OF THOSE AND ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT.

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OTHERWISE JACOB AND I CAN START. YEAH AND YOU COULD HAVE A THIRD TOO.

SO WELL, TYPICALLY, SHOULDN'T THEY BE 3 PERSON TEAMS? 2 OR 3. BUT NOT MORE THAN 3. NO MORE THAN 3. SO HOW DOES NUMBER FOUR THEN FIT IN WITH THE PARK ITSELF? SO THAT'S KIND OF A DUPLICATE THING. I TOOK LOWRY WOULD AND SO HERE IT SAYS LOWRY WOULD CONNECTION TO LOOSE LINE.

WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT IS WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT LOWRY WOULD.

SO DO I NEED TO BE ON THAT COMMITTEE THEN? I THINK IT WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA BECAUSE IT'S VERY MUCH CONNECTED.

IT'S MORE ABOUT THE TRAILS INTO THE PARK. YOU'RE ON THERE TO JACOB, RIGHT? YEP. YOU'RE GOING TO BE ON THERE, TOO. LAURIE WOULD.

I DON'T NEED TO BE. NO, ON THE TRAILS. ON THE TRAIL.

YOU TWO ARE ON TRAILS. JAMIE AND RICK. AND I'M READY TO STEP OFF.

SO IF A THIRD PERSON WANTS IT, YOU KNOW, OR MAYBE WE GET GOING.

YEAH. YOU HIT THE LIMIT OF THREE. YEP. GOOD. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, SO THE GOLF COURSE, THIS ONE SPECIFICALLY AND DIFFERENT THAN THE LAST.

THE PARK ASSIGNMENT. THIS IS SPECIFIC TO PLANNING, DEVELOPMENT, INVESTMENT, FUTURE INVESTMENT AT THE GOLF COURSE.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THIS IS THE REASON WHY I WAS ABLE TO GET GORDY ONTO THE COMMISSION YEARS AGO WAS BECAUSE WE HAD WE HAD SOME GREAT CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE GOLF COURSE AND WHAT IT COULD BE.

AND WE'VE PUT SOME SOME OF THAT STUFF DOWN ON PAPER.

IT DOES NUMBER SIX AS A GOAL. IF THE SUBCOMMITTEE DECIDES TO KEEP IT THERE, IS UPDATING THE MASTER PLAN FOR THE GOLF COURSE, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT WE DID A COUPLE YEARS AGO, BUT PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE REFRESHED BECAUSE THINGS HAVE CHANGED SINCE THEN AS WELL.

SO GORDY IS THERE ARE IS THERE ANYTHING LEFT ON THAT MASTER PLAN THAT SO BE AN OPTION EVEN OR DO WE NEED A NEW MASTER PLAN? I BELIEVE WE NEED A NEW ONE. AND SO I'M THINKING AT IT MORE FROM A GOLF COURSE PLAYABILITY STANDPOINT SO THAT LIKE YOU KNOW, SUPERINTENDENTS CAN'T JUST MOVE THINGS AROUND AS THEY SEE FIT AND PLAY GOLF COURSE ARCHITECT.

SO THERE'S LIKE ACTUALLY A GUIDING DOCUMENT LONG RANGE AND YOU CAN CHIP AWAY AT IT OVER TIME.

BUT THERE COULD ALSO BE THINGS IN THERE LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT, IS THERE GOING TO BE A FIRE PIT OR NOT? YOU KNOW, I THINK THE CURRENT ONE HAS AMENITIES, THAT KIND OF STUFF.

THAT COULD CERTAINLY BE ON THERE TOO. FOOD, ALL THESE THINGS. BUT MORE.

WHAT I'VE BEEN REFERENCING HERE IS MORE A GOLF COURSE FOCUS.

I WOULD LIKE TO PUT MY HAT IN THE RING. GREAT.

THERE'S A THIRD. THANK YOU. MOLLY. SO WE HAVE MOLLY GORDY FOR CERTAIN.

IF ANYONE ELSE HAS A PASSION AROUND THAT, THEN I'M HAPPY NOT TO DO IT.

OTHERWISE, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I'VE ENJOYED BEING A PART OF OVER THE YEARS.

BUT I DON'T NEED TO BE. SO. KIND OF GOES WITH THE OTHER PLAN OVER HERE.

THE GOLF COURSE. I MEAN, I'M INTERESTED IN ALL THAT, BUT I DON'T WANT TO BOOT YOU OFF OF IT, BRIAN. OH, I APPRECIATE THAT. I'LL LET YOU DO IT AND THEN HEAR WHAT YOU'VE COME UP WITH AT THE WHEN YOUR COMMITTEE COMES.

OKAY. THAT'S FAIR. THANK YOU. SO BRIAN STAYS ON THAT ONE.

I'LL STAY ON THAT ONE, TOO. YEAH, YOU CAN PUT ME UNDER MOLLY.

[INAUDIBLE]. BRIAN STAYS ON THAT ONE. YOU'RE STAYING ON THE GOLF? YEAH. TO ALL THREE OF YOU LIVE UPDATES. YEAH, ALL THREE OF US.

NEXT IS HACKBERRY PARK. SO WE HAVE A CONCEPT RIGHT NOW THAT WE'VE USED TO APPLY FOR GRANTS MONEY.

TWO YEARS AND UNFORTUNATELY DID NOT THAT DID NOT HAPPEN.

SO. BUT US AND STAFF HAVE A PLAN FOR EVEN WITHOUT THE GRANT MOVING FORWARD, BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING THAT IT'S JUST A PARK THAT NEEDS TO BE DEVELOPED ANYWAYS, REDEVELOPED.

ANYWAYS, MOVING FORWARD WITH TOWARDS DESIGN IN 2025.

THAT'S WHY IT'S ON HERE. GORDY AND I HAD WORKED ON IT.

I DON'T NEED TO BE THERE. I DON'T KNOW, I THINK THAT YOU ENJOY IT BECAUSE OF THE CONNECTION WITH YOUR KIDS.

BUT YEAH, I'M INDIFFERENT ON THAT ONE. IT PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE 1 OR THE OTHER, JUST FROM A KIND OF HISTORY.

THIS IS ONE WHEN AGAIN, LIKE WHEN WE GET MORE OF A GREEN LIGHT TOWARDS FUNDING, WE'RE ALL GOING TO WANT TO BE INVOLVED IN THIS.

ABSOLUTELY. THE NEIGHBORHOOD REALLY DOES NOT LIKE THE PLAN.

YES, I'VE HEARD IT. YEAH. I HAD SOME CONCERNS WITH THE PLAN, TOO.

OKAY. THIS IS ONE I'D LOVE TO, BUT IT'S JUST A GREAT ONE TO BE WORKING ON.

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SO I THINK BIG THING IS JUST MAINTAINING BASEBALL PARKS AND WHATNOT.

I THINK THERE'S JUST OPPORTUNITIES THERE AND WE'LL WORK THROUGH IT.

GREAT. SO YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT. GORDY, JACOB AND GORDY AND RYAN? NO, I DON'T NEED TO BE IN THAT ONE UNLESS YOU WANT ME TO.

I DON'T, I MEAN, I'M AGAIN, I'M HAPPY TO AND IF WE HAVE PART OF THAT ONE, I WANT YOU TO IF WE HAVE TWO, I MEAN, I CAN ALWAYS JUMP INTO THE MEETINGS. SO.

WHAT DID YOU WANT MICHAEL FOR? FOR BRIAN. HE'S VOLUNTEERING ME.

OH, SO IS THREE. YEAH. WE'RE TRYING TO BE THREE ON ALL OF THEM.

NO, MORE THAN THREE. CAN'T BE MORE THAN THREE.

OKAY. GOT IT. SORRY, I JUST WASN'T TRACKING. OKAY.

DO YOU NOT WANT TO BE ON IT, THOUGH? I DON'T WANT TO. I'M FINE.

I JUST DON'T WANT TO TAKE. I DON'T WANT TO BE A KIM AND TAKE.

TAKE ALL OF THEM. JUST KIDDING. I GOT AN EASIER JOB.

THIS IS A STICKY. ALL RIGHT, I CAN JUST GO FOR [INAUDIBLE].

UNLESS YOU WANT. JANIE, YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC INTEREST IN.

I THOUGHT. I THOUGHT JACOB WANTED TO BE ON THAT.

HE IS. I'M HAPPY TO BE ON IT. OH, AND, GORDY, YOU RETIRED.

NO. ARE YOU STILL ON IT? NO. I THINK YOU SHOULD STAY ON IT.

YOU SHOULD HAVE ONE. YOU COULD BE THE THIRD, IS WHAT I'M SAYING.

INSTEAD OF ME, IF YOU WANT ME TO, I CAN. SO, GORDY.

JACOB. JANIE. YEAH. OKAY. AND, JANIE, I THINK YOU SAID YOU HAD A LOT OF CONTACT WITH NEIGHBORS AND WHATNOT.

YEAH, I HAVE. AND I JUST HAVE KIDS IN BASEBALL, AND, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE JUST ALL GREAT RESOURCES FOR ALL OF US EVERY DAY.

GREAT. THAT'S A GREAT TEAM. YEP. I HAVE A QUESTION ON ANTOINE.

DID THEY ASK FOR A PICNIC SHELTER? WE DID. WE DID A LISTENING SESSION.

OH. AUGUST 2023. MAYBE AND YEAH, IT WON'T BE AS BIG AS THE ONE AT THE GOLF COURSE.

WILL IT? I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE.

COULD IT BE THEY WANTED ONE OR THE NEIGHBORHOOD WANTED THEM.

WANTED IT. THIS IS WHERE IT STARTED. YEAH. OKAY.

WE HAD THIS LISTENING ABOUT THAT. WE HAD A LISTENING SESSION AND KNOWING AND WE HAD A LISTENING SESSION.

IT'S A GREAT NEIGHBORHOOD. THEY HAVE A LOT OF.

YEAH THEY HAVE A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOOD FEEL THEY HAVE A LOT OF CONNECTION AND, THEY SAID YOU KNOW, IT KIND OF BE NICE, YOU KNOW, FOR US TO WE KIND OF GATHER HERE, IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE A SHELTER.

AND RIGHT ABOUT THEN THE SKIES OPENED UP AND IT STARTED DOWNPOURING ON US AND WE GO, YEAH, IT WOULD BE KIND OF NICE TO HAVE A SHELTER RIGHT ABOUT NOW.

OKAY. WELL THAT'S NICE. JOSH AND I WENT OUT THERE IN AUGUST WHERE WHENEVER THAT WAS AUGUST THAT LAST YEAR.

NO IT WAS TWO YEARS AGO. AT LEAST IT WASN'T HERE LAST YEAR.

HE WAS GONE BY THEN. SO MICHAEL'S 25 PUT THE PLAN TOGETHER.

I'M WONDERING WHAT I WOULD CALL A CONCEPT. YEAH.

I'M WONDERING IF WE COULD TEST OUT OUR GUIDING PRINCIPLE DOCUMENT ON ANTOINE, SINCE IT'S NOT.

NOTHING'S REALLY HAPPENED YET, AND IT'S KIND OF OUT OF NOT OUT OF THE BLUE, BUT IT LOOKS KIND OF OUT OF THE BLUE WITH ALL THE PARKS.

PROBABLY WANT SOMETHING. SO IF WE COULD WORK ON THIS GUIDING DOCUMENT AND DEPLOY IT FOR ANTOINE AND THEN TWEAK IT TO SEE HOW IT WORKED OR HOW IT DIDN'T WORK, HOW DO WE FEEL ABOUT THAT? WELL, AS FAR AS THE BACKGROUND OF THIS IT REALLY THEY CAME UP PRIMARILY AS A CASE STUDY FOR ADOPT THE PARK BECAUSE THE COMMUNITY IS SO INVOLVED IN THAT PARK, AND THEY KIND OF TAKE CARE OF IT.

THEY PUT IN PLANS, TAKE CARE OF THE PLANS, AND IT'S REALLY A WELL MAINTAINED PARK BECAUSE THEY HELP STAFF KEEP IT THAT WAY AND THEY'RE ALSO VERY INVOLVED IN WHAT THEY WANT TO HAVE HAPPEN THERE.

SO IT SHOWS UP IN TWO DIFFERENT PLACES REALLY.

ONE IS THIS ADOPT A PARK PROGRAM, WHICH WAS SOMETHING I WAS INTERESTED IN AND LIKE YOU SAID, IT COULD BE A CASE STUDY FOR THE YOUR DOCUMENT.

YEAH. AS WELL AS FOR ADOPT APART. THERE'S OTHER OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE THAT.

IT'S REALLY GIVEN RECOGNITION TO COMMUNITIES THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE WHEN YOU CLEAN UP THE, YOU KNOW, A HALF A MILE OF ROAD, THEY PUT UP A LITTLE SIGN FOR YOU, THIS ROAD SECTIONS, YOU KNOW DUE TO PAINTING OR WHATEVER. WELL, HOPEFULLY OUR GUIDING DOCUMENTS WOULD REFLECT THAT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT NOT BE AT ODDS WITH IT.

LIKE WE WANT TO HONOR THAT. SO YOU'LL BE SETTING UP A A SUBCOMMITTEE FOR THESE NEW ONES THAT WE

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YEAH, THE ANTOINE, I THINK THAT WE SHOULD SET UP A SUBCOMMITTEE.

AND IF THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN WE CAN FIGURE OUT IF THERE'S ANY OVERLAP WITH THE.

OKAY, BRIAN. SO IT SAYS SPRING SUMMER TIMELINE.

DOES THAT MEAN THAT WAS IN THE BUDGET AND. NO AND AGAIN THOSE THAT SO THE NEXT STEP AFTER THIS MEETING IS FOR THE SUBCOMMITTEE TO GO AND UP. OOPS I'M SORRY. UPDATE THE GOALS AND THE TIMELINE MILESTONES.

SO THOSE MIGHT BE OUTDATED. THOSE TWO COLUMNS.

SO THAT IT'S TBD WHAT WE WOULD DO ON THAT. WE'RE JUST GOING TO FOCUS ON THAT.

SO [INAUDIBLE] YEP. IT MAY HAVE BEEN, TO BE HONEST, I THINK IT MAY HAVE SAID SPRING SUMMER 2024 UNTIL MAYBE JOE MOVED IT TO 2025 OR SOMETHING. BUT YEAH, OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. PICKLEBALL IS ON HERE BECAUSE WE, THE COMMISSION OR THE COMMISSION MOVED TO APPROVE KIND OF A CONCEPT LAST YEAR AND IT'S ON HERE BECAUSE IT'S NOT, NOT ON HERE KIND OF THING.

I THINK THE ONLY TO DO HERE AT THIS POINT IS TO FIGURE OUT IF THERE'S STILL FUNDRAISING GOING ON, AND, THAT'S ABOUT IT. AREN'T YOU THE TREASURER THOUGH? DO THEY HAVE THEY RAISED ANY MONEY? I'M NOT THE TREASURER.

NO. OH YOU'RE NOT YOU'RE ON THE WEBSITE? IS THAT.

THAT'S THE 500 AND 13C FOR PARKS, ALL THE PARKS BUT THE FUNDRAISING EFFORT IS A PRIVATE GROUP.

IT'S NOT THROUGH THE PARKS LEGACY. NO. OKAY. I DIDN'T KNOW THAT THEY WOULD BE INVOLVED.

THAT WAS THE PLAN AT ONE TIME AND THEY'D GIVE THE MONEY TO THE PARKS LEGACY, AND THEN THEY WOULD GIVE IT TO THE CITY.

THAT'S. THAT WAS THE PLAN? YEAH. OKAY. WHERE ARE WE AT? ON THE LOCATION OF THE PICKLEBALL. IS THAT STILL? YEAH. SO WHAT'S ON THE TABLE RIGHT NOW? IS THE IS PICKLEBALL ADJACENT TO THE DONATION GARDEN? YEP. WE HAVE KIND OF A CONCEPT PLAN THAT IF YOU GUYS HAVEN'T SEEN, MAYBE YOU CAN SEND IT OUT THE. BUT AGAIN ONE OF THE, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT IS, YOU KNOW, IT REALLY WOULD BE DRIVEN BY THE FUNDRAISING EFFORT AND YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'VE DONE.

NO. OKAY. WOULD THEY COME AND REPORT THAT SINCE IT'S ON OUR LIST, THEY COULD.

YEAH. I THINK IT'D BE GOOD TO KNOW WHERE THEY'RE AT, BECAUSE WOULDN'T THAT GIVE US SOME KIND OF TIMELINE? ABSOLUTELY. POINT IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S ON THE FOCUS JUST BECAUSE IT'S A LOOSE END AT THIS POINT AND IF IT BECOMES SOMETHING BIGGER, THEN RIGHT NOW, JUST LEAVE ME ON THAT AND THEN JUST SEEMS MESSY BECAUSE WE DID WE DO A HIGH LEVEL PLAN FOR THE LOCATION. YEAH. CONCEPT. YEAH. OKAY. SO THEY GO GET MONEY AND THEN A DEEPER PLAN HAS TO BE DONE, WHICH WILL TELL YOU, LIKE, YOU PROBABLY HAVE A PLUS OR -30% COST NOW AND YOU'LL GET A PLUS OR -10% WITH A DEEPER PLAN ONCE THEY HAVE THE FUNDING.

SO IT JUST SEEMS LIKE I WOULD LIKE TO RESOLVE THIS SOMEHOW.

SO IT'S NOT HANGING AND I FEEL LIKE IT'S KIND OF NOT IN OUR SCOPE, BUT IT SHOULD BE IN OUR SCOPE.

BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW TO. WELL, I MEAN, I DON'T THINK IT'S THAT INDIFFERENT THAN SOME OF THE OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE DO.

THAT'S SOMETIMES WHAT THE PROCESS IS AND WHETHER WE'RE WAITING FOR PRIVATE DONATIONS OR FUNDRAISING GROUP OR WHETHER WE'RE WAITING FOR A GRANT.

IT'S REALLY NO DIFFERENT THAN HACKBERRY. WE HAVE A CURRENT CONCEPT PLAN FOR HACKBERRY.

WE DON'T HAVE A DESIGN. WE HAVEN'T MOVED TO DESIGN YET.

YEAH. WELL, WHEN DOES THIS COME TO THE COUNCIL? THESE ITEMS THAT ARE GETTING TALKED ABOUT IN THE COMMITTEE.

SO THEY COME BACK TO THE COMMISSION AS A WHOLE AND THEN, SO WHEN I GUESS WE'D HAVE TO GO ASK EACH ONE AT SOME POINT IF THEY'RE CONSIDERING ANY OF THIS DEVELOPMENT. BECAUSE THIS IS A FAIRLY NEW COUNCIL.

DO YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC ONE WE CAN TALK THROUGH? DO YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC ONE WE CAN TALK THROUGH? I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN. WHAT? WELL, OH WELL, I MEAN PICKLEBALL, OR IF THE NEW COUNCIL DOESN'T LIKE THE LOCATION AND THEN WE GO TO THEM

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SO I FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT A BETTER APPROACH FOR PICKLEBALL.

OR THE MOUNTAIN BIKE TRAIL. WHAT IS THE COUNT? IS THIS. YEAH. BECAUSE IS THIS GOING TO BE GO THROUGH IS LIKE HOW IF THEY'RE GETTING THE MONEY AND THEN WE GO TO COUNCIL AND THEY SAY WE DON'T LIKE THIS FOR WHATEVER REASON.

LIKE THAT GOES BACK TO THE CONVERSATION WE HAD IN HERE WHEN WE MET THE NEW COUNCIL.

AND IT'S LIKE WE'RE AN ADVISORY GROUP. BUT, YOU KNOW, THEY WANT US TO BE INDEPENDENT.

BUT I THINK THERE SHOULD BE SOME BACK AND FORTH WITH KNOWING WHERE THERE MIGHT BE SUPPORT. SO EXACTLY, SO FAR AHEAD OF THEMSELVES. BUT I UNDERSTAND ALSO LIKE A DESIRE TO HAVE SOME INDEPENDENCE WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING.

YEAH, IT IS MESSY AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, EACH ONE IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

BUT MOST OF THESE IDEAS START FROM RESIDENT REQUESTS OR, AND OR COMMISSION RESIDENT REQUESTS AND THEN IT'S KIND OF A SCIENCE ON WHETHER, YOU KNOW AND HOW WE PROCEED AND EACH ONE IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

AND I THINK WITH PICKLEBALL, IT DEFINITELY HAS A LOT OF SUPPORT AND A LOT OF PEOPLE I THINK WILL BE UTILIZING IT, BUT THEN LOCATION WILL BE KIND OF THE IT'S PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECT OF IT AND I'M NOT EVEN SAYING THAT'S A GOOD OR BAD LOCATION.

I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT NEARBY AND WHATNOT, THERE'S CONVERSATIONS TO HAVE. BUT YEAH, TO KIND OF SOME OF THE DIFFERENT POINTS JUST THINKING THAT THROUGH.

AND IS IT THE BEST LOCATION THAT WILL BE, I THINK, A VERY VALUED RESOURCE.

ONCE YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN FIND THE BEST HOME FOR IT'LL BE A HOME RUN.

YEAH WELL, AND I THINK THERE'S SOME DISCUSSION TO THE MASS OF IT TOO.

DO WE REALLY NEED AN OLYMPICS? WELL IT'S COMPETITION.

IT'S NOT PART OF OUR FOCUS TONIGHT TO DIVE INTO ALL THESE THINGS, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, I THINK MAYBE WE JUST. WHO'S GOING TO BE ON THAT COMMITTEE TO DIVE INTO IT, RIGHT? BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW THIS WORKS, YOU KNOW? I MEAN, I'M LEARNING HOW THIS IS LIKE A MESSIER ONE THAN THE ONES WE'VE TALKED ABOUT UP TO DATE, SO. YEP. ALL RIGHT. SO I'M TABLE THAT AND TO JAMIE'S POINT, WE UNDERSTAND WHERE THE FUNDRAISERS ARE OR HOW IT WORKS, WHAT THEY'RE THINKING. THAT'S ALL PART OF WHAT THE TO DO IS AND THAT'S WHAT MY I'M MY NAME IS ON THERE AND THAT'S WHAT I WILL TRY AND MAKE LESS MESS. GOT IT. I DON'T THINK I NEED ANYONE ELSE AT THIS POINT ON IT, BUT IF ANYONE ELSE IS INTERESTED, FEEL FREE TO ADD YOUR NAME. ADOPT A PARK. MAYBE I'LL HAVE MICHAEL TALK ABOUT WHERE THAT STANDS AND WHAT THE EFFORT IS HERE. WELL, AGAIN, WE SOMEONE HAD BROUGHT UP THE FACT THAT IT WOULD BE ECONOMIC IN LARGE RESPECT AND EFFECTIVE FOR US TO ENGAGE PEOPLE IN MAINTENANCE AND, YOU KNOW, OF PARKS AND ONE IN PARTICULAR CAME TO MIND WHEN THAT HAPPENED, AS I MENTIONED A LITTLE BIT BEFORE WAS ANTOINE PARK, BECAUSE HERE'S A SITUATION WHERE MAYBE SOME KIND OF RECOGNITION WOULD MAKE THEM FEEL BETTER ABOUT IT, AND THEN WE COULD USE THAT AS A SORT OF A MARKETING THING THAT THIS IS WHAT OTHER PEOPLE COULD DO, TOO. WOULD YOU BE INTERESTED IN TAKING CARE OF THIS THING AND GETTING YOUR NAME OR YOUR GRANDFATHER'S NAME OR SOMETHING UP THERE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL REALLY IS THANKING YOU OR THE PARK COMMISSION IS THANKING YOU FOR HELPING WITH THIS PARK AND YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB.

SO WHATEVER THOSE THINGS THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE THAT DESIGNATION WAS SOMETHING THAT WE HAD BEEN LOOKING AT BECAUSE MANY PARKS COMMISSIONS AT DIFFERENT CITIES HAVE THESE PROGRAMS IN PLACE AND THAT WE HAD A PRESENTATION FROM ONE OF OUR PAST COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT BROUGHT IN A WHOLE LOT OF MAYBE 3 OR 4 EXAMPLES OF WHAT SOME OF THESE OTHER CITIES WERE DOING WITH THEIR ADAPTIVE PARK AND IT KIND OF DIED THERE WHEN WE LOST THAT CITY COUNCIL MEMBER.

I WAS A PART OF IT, BUT STILL THINK IT HAS SOME LEGS, AND IT COULD BE A WAY TO GET PEOPLE MORE INVOLVED IN THE PARKS.

USING THEM AS WELL AS HELPING TO MAINTAIN THEM.

ISN'T THERE ALREADY A PROGRAM SET UP WITHIN THE CITY OF ORONO? SO I THOUGHT I SAW LIKE ON THE WEBSITE. IT'S ON THE WEBSITE.

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IT NEEDS TO BE YOU KNOW, MORE VISIBLE AND MORE ACCESSIBLE, I THINK, TO COMMUNITIES TO GET INVOLVED AND FOR MANY YEARS, NO ONE, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS ON THE WEBSITE, NO ONE WAS JUMPING UP AND SAYING, HEY, I WANT TO DO THIS AND WE THOUGHT THAT IF WE COULD BRING TO, YOU KNOW, THE WEBSITE OR OTHER PLACES AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IN A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW, VIVID COLOR. IT MIGHT ENCOURAGE MORE PEOPLE TO BE A PART OF IT, ESPECIALLY AGAIN, IS IF WE HAD AN EXAMPLE AND THAT EXAMPLE MIGHT HAVE BEEN ANDREW.

YEAH. ALL RIGHT. SO MICHAEL DO YOU WANT TO STAY INVOLVED IN THAT.

YEAH I'D STAY INVOLVED. YEAH I THINK IT'S AWESOME.

WE NEED TO GET I THINK IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO GET MORE OF OUR RESIDENTS AND COMMUNITY ENGAGED IN THE PARKS, SO I THINK IT CAN NEVER BE ENOUGH. ANYONE ELSE HAVE A PARTICULAR INTEREST IN THAT PROGRAM? CONTRIBUTING AND WORKING WITH MICHAEL ON THAT PROGRAM? I WOULD PUT MY HAT IN THE RING. OKAY, GREAT. THANKS, MOLLY AND WE CAN ADD A THIRD IF THERE'S INTEREST BACKING UP TO ANTOINE, IT LOOKS LIKE WE DIDN'T GET A SECOND PERSON TO WORK WITH MICHAEL ON ANTOINE.

YEAH, THEY'RE KIND OF. THERE'S SOME. WELL, THERE'S SOME OVERLAP THERE FOR SURE.

OKAY AND I DON'T KNOW WHO WAS INVOLVED IN ANY OF THE PREVIOUS COMMUNICATIONS WITH THE.

YOU KNOW, I WASN'T A PART OF THAT WHEN YOU HAD THE SESSION WHERE YOU TALKED TO HIM.

BRIAN. I DON'T MAYBE YOU THINK WE CAN HELP. WE HAVE GOOD NOTES, I THINK.

DO WE? WHOEVER SET THAT UP, I MEAN, I WASN'T A PART OF THAT.

BUT I THINK RESURRECTING THAT COMMUNICATION WITH THEM IS THE FIRST STEP IN THIS.

OKAY. YEAH. ANYONE WANT TO WORK WITH HIM ON THAT PARK OR INITIATIVE? IF NOT, I GUESS I CAN DO IT WITH THAT. YEAH. IF YOU JUST HELP WITH THAT WHOLE SETUP.

YEAH. LET'S DO THAT. HAPPY TO DO THAT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

MOUNTAIN BIKE TRAIL. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT RICK AND I AND OTHERS HAVE BEEN WORKING ON FOR YEARS.

IS IT STARTED WITH A REQUEST FROM THE COMMUNITY AND WE HAVE WORKING IDEA THAT WE'RE EXPLORING. AND THE NEXT STEP IS TO ONE OF THE NEXT STEPS IS TO BRING A RECOMMENDATION, OUR RECOMMENDATION FROM THE PARKS COMMISSION TO CITY COUNCIL, HOPEFULLY AT THE END OF MAY HERE TO MOVE FORWARD AND GET THE FUNDING FOR DESIGN THROUGH IN THE DESIGN PROCESS IS WHERE WE ANSWER A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS AND ADDRESS A LOT OF THE CONCERNS THAT, WE HAVE. WE, FEEL LIKE IT'S AT THE POINT WHERE IT'S A VIABLE IDEA AND SO THAT'S WHERE THAT STANDS. RICK AND I ARE ON IT.

GORDY HAS ALSO BEEN PARTICIPATING IN IT. I DON'T KNOW FORMALLY IF YOU WANT TO PUT YOUR NAME ON THAT GORDY OR IF ANYONE ELSE IS INTERESTED IN REPLACING BRAIN ROTH ON IT.

WHAT DO WE THINK OF USING THAT PROJECT TO PILOT OUR GUIDING PRINCIPLES? I THINK THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES. AND AGAIN, I DON'T WANT TO.

IT'S A WHITEBOARD, RIGHT? IN MY MIND, THOUGH, IT'S MORE ABOUT PRIORITIZING WHETHER THAT AND GETTING TO THIS POINT RATHER THAN MOVING AND WORKING ON THE INITIATIVE AFTER IT'S BEEN IDENTIFIED AS A PRIORITY. BUT DO WE THINK IF WE COULD COME UP WITH THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES BEFORE WE TAKE IT TO COUNCIL, WE MIGHT SET OURSELVES UP FOR MORE SUCCESS, TO SHOW THEM A LITTLE MORE CONTEXT VERSUS JUST GO WITH ONE THING AND THEY SEE ALL THESE OTHER DOCUMENTS, AND I THINK WE CAN TALK ABOUT MAINTENANCE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

YEAH, AT THIS POINT, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR YEARS.

I DON'T WANT THAT TO WE CAN MAYBE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE LIKE YOU SAID, ANTOINE, IF WHATEVER.

BUT THIS IS AT A POINT WHERE WE JUST NEED TO MOVE FORWARD OR NOT MOVE FORWARD WITH IT.

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ALL RIGHT. NORTH ARM DRIVE TRAIL. WE TALKED ABOUT THAT EARLIER TODAY.

ANYONE HAVE A PARTICULAR INTEREST? DO YOU HAVE AN INTEREST? INTERESTED? I DON'T WANT TO BE THE LEADER OF IT, BUT I WANT TO BE ON THE COMMITTEE.

ALL RIGHT. YOU'RE GOING TO GET US A MAP OF WHERE? THAT'S WHERE THAT IS. BRIAN OR JOE? JOE'S PROBABLY THE BETTER.

I CAN GET YOU THAT AND THIS WOULD NOT LOGICALLY FOLD INTO THE FIRST.

IT MAY. YEAH. IT MAY. OKAY. YEAH, IT SEEMS LIKE IT SHOULD.

YEAH. OKAY. LET'S JUST FOLD IT IN THERE. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER.

DO WE NEED A MOTION? BECAUSE I BEFORE YOU MAKE A MOTION, DO WE NEED A MOTION BECAUSE I HAD A MOTION BEFORE TO PUT IT ON THERE. YEAH. YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION TO COMBINE THEM.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO BEFORE YOU MAKE A MOTION.

IF WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE THIS. TO CHANGE THIS.

RIGHT. WHAT ABOUT THOSE TWO DOCUMENTS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT? THE YOU KNOW, THE BECAUSE THEY ALL HAVE TO DO THESE PARK STANDARDS HAVE TO DO WITH ANY KIND OF DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING TO GO ON.

SO SHOULD THAT BE PART OF SHOULD THAT BE A SUBCOMMITTEE? I'LL TURN IT OVER TO JOE. THOSE ARE STAFF DOCUMENTS THAT WE WOULD USE.

YEAH. OUR OPINION I GUESS SITTING HERE IS THAT IT MIGHT THEY MIGHT BE OUTDATED, MIGHT NEED TO BE REFRESHED A LITTLE BIT, BUT THIS IS ON STAFF AND, IF YOU NEED OUR HELP OR NOT, I DON'T THINK IT IS NECESSARY TO BE ITS OWN COMMITTEE JUST BECAUSE THERE IS LOGO SIZE OF THE SIGNS, BUT I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN DEFINITELY BRING UP IN OUR WORK SESSION AND EVERYONE CAN WORK ON IT. UPDATING? YEAH. HOW ABOUT JUST KEEP US INVOLVED? AND IF WE DECIDE THAT'S NOT WORKING, WE CAN FORM A COMMITTEE TO DO IT.

BUT I THINK IT'S NOT SOMETHING. YEAH, I'M OPEN TO IT.

I JUST SEE SUCH HAVING BEEN TO ALL THE PARKS, THERE'S SUCH A DEVIATION IN THE BRANDING OF EVERYTHING.

YEAH, EVEN THE INFORMATIONAL SIGNS DON'T. A LOT OF THEM DON'T RECOGNIZE WHO THE CONTRIBUTORS ARE.

IT WILL SAY 2017 PARK COMMISSION AND IT'S LIKE THEIR NAME SHOULD REALLY OUR NAMES SHOULDN'T BE ON THAT.

WE AREN'T. MAYBE WE CAME UP WITH THE IDEAS BUT ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, THERE WERE PEOPLE THAT FUNDED IT AND IT WAS THE CITY WHO DID IT, NOT WHERE IS THAT? I'VE NEVER SEEN THOSE, BUT YEAH, THEY'RE ALL OVER THE PLACE.

OH, REALLY? DATES THE SIGN? BECAUSE I JUST GO RIGHT BY HIM.

SO YOU TAKE YOUR DOG. YEAH. IT'S GOT IT RIGHT AT THE.

YEAH. BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT SIGNS A COUPLE TIMES.

I JUST WANT TO AND JOE CHIME IN HERE. SO THERE IS AN ONGOING EFFORT TO REPLACE THE SIGNS.

IT'S BEEN A ROTATING THING FOR A LEAST FOUR YEARS.

FOUR YEARS AGO IT WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE INPUT ON WHAT THE SIGN LOOKS LIKE.

BUT INSTEAD OF MAKING THE WHOLE INVESTMENT AT THE TIME, WE'VE BEEN KNOCKING OFF A FEW OF THEM A YEAR.

THERE'S NO INTENTION FOR SIGNS TO LOOK DIFFERENT.

IF THE REQUEST IS THAT WE NEED TO HURRY UP AND GET THROUGH ALL THE OLD SIGNS.

THEN THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT WE CAN REQUEST.

BUT I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW SOMETHING IS ONGOING ON THAT.

THERE ARE SIGNS THAT IDENTIFY THE PARK. YES, THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

YES. THE SIGN, THE NAME OF THE PARK. WHAT JANE IS TALKING ABOUT IS THERE ARE SIGNS WITHIN THE PARKS ONCE YOU GET IN THE PARK THAT MIGHT TALK ABOUT THE HISTORY OR, I THINK ON SAGA HILL, WHO DONATED TREES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO, YEAH, THOSE ARE DIFFERENT SIGNS. YEAH. I DIDN'T MEAN THAT.

I JUST MEANT TO. SO EVERYONE KNOWS THAT SIGN, THE ENTRY SIGN IS THERE.

IF THERE ARE, THERE IS CERTAINLY AND I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN PERSIAN THAT THERE IS SOME INCONSISTENCY IN THE LOOK.

YEAH. THAT MIGHT THESE DOCUMENTS MIGHT HELP. WITH.

SO YEAH, I THINK WE'RE WELCOME TO THAT AND GETTING THOSE MORE CONSISTENT IN A GENERAL LOOK FOR EVERYTHING.

WE JUST HAVE TO KEEP IN SIGNS ARE EXPENSIVE, BUT GOING FORWARD THERE'S NOTHING TO STOP FROM HAVING A CONSISTENT LOOK AND UPDATING

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THERE SHOULD BE SOME KIND OF STANDARDIZATION IF YOU'RE GOING TO START INSTALLING THOSE IN PARKS.

SO I THINK IT ALL RELATES AND PROBABLY WOULD BE LOOKED AT BEFORE YOU MADE ANY DECISIONS, BUT NOT WAIT TILL IT MAKE A DECISION ON THE FLY. NO, IT'S GOOD TO HAVE A CONSISTENT BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONS CHANGE, PARK SUPERINTENDENTS CHANGE, COUNCIL CHANGES, SO THERE'S ALWAYS SOMEONE NEW.

SO IF WE HAVE A CONSISTENT GUIDELINE, YOU KNOW PEOPLE CAN USE THAT AND THAT'S HELPFUL.

I THINK WE NEED LIKE A LINE ITEM HERE. JUST TAKING CARE OF WHAT WE HAVE COULD BE MAINTENANCE, COULD BE SIGNS. BUT I THINK WE'RE NOT. WE'RE ADDING STUFF.

WE'RE NOT TAKING CARE AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH GAP THERE IS TO TAKE CARE OF.

BUT COUNCILMAN BENCH COUNCIL MEMBER BENSON MENTIONED IT.

I FELT IT COMING IN. SO I WONDER AT SOME POINT MAYBE WE WAIT UNTIL WE DO THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES AND IT WILL POP UP AS AN OPPORTUNITY NOW BECAUSE I DIDN'T BRING IT UP EARLIER.

BUT I THINK WE NEED A PORTFOLIO OF TAKING CARE, ADDING NEW LIKE BALANCE.

SO WE'RE NOT ADDING STUFF. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THE SUPERINTENDENTS GOT THINGS TO NO ONE'S REALLY FOCUSED ON THE MAINTENANCE OF IT, LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT WITH THE MONARCH THAT NEEDS MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONALIZATION FOR IT TO.

YEP. SO I THINK I'LL HOLD THAT THOUGHT AND HOPEFULLY AS I BRING THE I'D LIKE TO LEAD THE PRINCIPLES.

OKAY, WHO ELSE WANTS TO HELP ME ON THAT? HOLLY, I'D LIKE TO BE ON THAT, TOO.

AND BRIAN. COOL. ANYONE ELSE? WE CAN ONLY. YOU CAN ONLY HAVE THREE OTHERWISE YOU'RE BREAKING THE LAW.

OKAY, SO WE'VE GOT THREE. GREAT FOR GUIDING PRINCIPLE DOCUMENT.

I KNOW THAT RICK I'VE TALKED TO RICK ABOUT THIS, TOO.

HE'D BE HAPPY TO BE KIND OF A SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT AS WE WORK.

WORK ON THIS. BUT YOU DON'T NEED TO NAME HIM THERE.

ALL RIGHT, SO THEN WE HAVE WE'RE DOWN TO TWO LEFT THE MAYOR'S MONARCH PLEDGE, AND THEN A AT LEAST A SECOND PERSON ON THE NORTH ARM DRIVE TRAIL.

MICHAEL DOES NOT BITE. I THOUGHT WE PUT NORTH ARM UNDER TRAILS.

OH. I'M SORRY. MOTION TO MOVE NORTH ARM TRAIL IN UNDER TRAILS.

THE FIRST ITEM ON THERE. I SECOND. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OPPOSED? OKAY, SO WE'LL DO THAT. I'M SORRY, I FORGOT THAT.

SO THAT MEANS MICHAEL IS OFF THE HOOK FOR THAT ONE? YES. ALL RIGHT AND THEN THE MONARCH. WE KNOW THAT MICHAEL DOESN'T WANT TO DO IT.

I JUST I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA AND AGAIN, THERE'S ASPECTS OF MAINTENANCE TO THAT WOULD POP UP, BUT PART OF WHAT THIS COULD BE WOULD BE ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO DO MORE AROUND THEIR OWN HOUSE.

I THINK COMMUNICATION, OUTREACH BEYOND THE PRICE.

I CAN I'LL JOIN YOU ON THAT ONE, MIKE. OKAY. WILL YOU TAKE THE LEAD? I WILL TAKE THE LEAD. OKAY. I THINK THAT WILL BE PRIMARILY YOUR ROLE IS.

AND WE'LL HAVE TO COME TO YOU TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANS. RIGHT. BUT, YOU KNOW, THE MAINTAINING OF A GARDEN OR THAT'S GOING TO BE ON PARK STAFF.

THAT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU GUYS HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT OR THE IMPLEMENTING OF IT.

IT'S MORE THE EDUCATION OF THE COMMUNITY, OUTREACH, GETTING THE WORD OUT AND JUST YEAH, IT CAN BE ALL IT CAN BE.

MIGHT WE MIGHT GET YOU ON FACEBOOK DOING A LITTLE, LITTLE VIDEO TALKING ABOUT IT.

YOU WOULD BE TALKING ABOUT IT. THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.

YOU SEEM TO HAVE A PARTICULAR OR ACTUALLY BOTH OF YOU HAD AN INTEREST IN THE MONARCHS THING.

IF YOU WE'VE GOT A THIRD SPOT. IF YOU WANT TO.

I'LL HELP. I DON'T NEED TO BE ON THE COMMITTEE.

HOLLER IF YOU NEED. WELL, NO, I DON'T NEED TO BE ON IT EITHER.

I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT IDEA. YEAH, I'LL BE ON THE COMMITTEE.

I'LL TAKE A SECOND. I'LL BE ON THE SECOND PERSON.

SO IT'S SO WITH THIS PROGRAM, DO YOU GET EDUCATIONAL MATERIALS AND STUFF? YEAH, THERE'S MATERIALS ON THE WEBSITE AND THEN IF WE NEED TO GET ADDITIONAL FROM OTHER SOURCES, WE CAN DO THAT TOO AND THEN LIKE THE COMMUNICATIONS PERSON WOULD.

OKAY. YEAH. THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO HELP GETTING THAT WORD OUT.

SO YOU GUYS DON'T DO IT ON THERE THEN. OKAY. SO JACOB.

JANIE. KIM. YES. MICHAEL. ALL RIGHT. GREAT. I'LL SLIDE THROUGH THAT.

IT'S AFTER EIGHT. WASN'T THE MEETING SUPPOSED TO END? SO THE ONLY THING LEFT IS GO AROUND THE HORN.

I DON'T WANT TO. THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PART. SO MOLLY, IF YOU WANT TO START OR KIM, EITHER ONE.

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GREAT. YEAH, I WOULD SECOND THAT. I THINK WE'RE SO LUCKY TO HAVE THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE.

THE PEOPLE HERE, THE PARKS THAT WE HAVE. I DO THINK ONE PIECE THAT KIND OF BROUGHT ME TO PARKS IS TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COMMUNICATE KIND OF THE VALUE OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE BRING TO THE COMMUNITY.

SO I THINK WE HAVE HAD SOME STRUGGLES WITH THAT IN THE PAST.

I KNOW SOME AT BEACH I WAS VERY CLOSE TO, AND THAT WAS KIND OF SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, GOT ME ACTIVE AS A PERSON.

EVERYONE I THINK THAT COMES TO PUBLIC SERVICE.

SOMETHING GETS THEM ACTIVE, AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SUCCESS WITH SOME OF THESE PROJECTS.

I THINK MOUNTAIN BIKING COULD BE A SUCCESS, BUT I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE COMMUNICATED AND THE VALUE EXPRESSED TO THE COMMUNITY.

PICKLEBALL, I THINK SO SOME OF THESE ARE A LITTLE MORE SENSITIVE THAN OTHERS AND WITH THE NEW GROUP AND ENGAGEMENT AND IDEAS YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY WE CAN PUT TOGETHER GOOD PLANS TO MAKE FOR VERY PRODUCTIVE PROJECTS.

THANK YOU. AND I'D LIKE TO JUST TALK ABOUT WHEN WE APPROACH THESE PROJECTS THAT WE REALLY NEED TO DO OUR HOMEWORK.

SO WE NEED TO GET THE DATA. WE NEED THE FEEDBACK FROM THE RESIDENTS, AND WE NEED THE RESEARCH AND WHY IT'S GOING TO WORK AND WHAT ARE THE DID WE LOOK AT ALL THE POSSIBLE LOCATIONS AND MONEY IS GOING TO COME INTO IT.

BUT I HAVE ONE MORE THING I WANT TO ADD AND THAT IS EVERY OTHER CITY AROUND US.

WAS THAT A MOUND? MINNETONKA BEACH, MEDINA, SHOREWOOD AND EXCELSIOR HAVE MONTHLY PARK COMMISSION MEETINGS AND I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT EVERYBODY, HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT THAT. I DON'T THINK WE CAN ACCOMPLISH ANYTHING MEETING FOUR TIMES A YEAR AND I THINK THEN LAST YEAR ONE WAS CANCELED.

SO, I MEAN, REALLY, WE DON'T GET MUCH WORK. I DON'T THINK WE GOT MUCH WORK DONE LAST YEAR AS A CITY.

SO I'D BE OPEN TO DOING THAT. I'M FOR IT. SUBCOMMITTEES YOU CAN MEET EVERY DAY.

AS IN YOUR SUBCOMMITTEES. YOU CAN MEET EVERY DAY.

I MEAN, THAT'S WHERE I REALLY WANT IT TO BE ON THE SURFACE IN PUBLIC MEETINGS WHERE THE PUBLIC CAN HEAR US.

THEY CAN WATCH THE MEETINGS, AND THERE'S JUST EVERYTHING'S TRANSPARENT.

I HEAR YOU. YEP. WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT. YEAH, THERE'S SOMETHING TO, I THINK, TO BE SAID ABOUT NOT LETTING TOO MUCH TIME LAPSE BECAUSE YOUR BRAIN DOESN'T, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE, WHERE ARE WE? SO A MORE CONSISTENT RHYTHM MIGHT HELP THINGS PROGRESS.

YEAH, JUST I MEAN, AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, I THINK WE HAVE TEN MEETINGS GENERALLY A YEAR.

YEAH. INCLUDING WORK SESSIONS. YEAH. SO THAT'S WE USUALLY SKIP JULY BECAUSE EVERYONE'S BUSY, AND DECEMBER BECAUSE EVERYONE'S BUSY, AND WE HAVE BEEN KNOWN TO, YOU KNOW, IF WE DIDN'T HAVE A TOPIC FOR A WORK SESSION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WE'D HAVE BEEN KNOWN NOT TO MEET TOO.

BUT EXCEPT WORK SESSIONS DON'T GET FILMED AND SO THEN IT DOESN'T.

THE INFORMATION DOESN'T REALLY GET COMMUNICATED.

SO I'M ALL ABOUT, YOU KNOW, LET'S BE AS TRANSPARENT AS WE CAN.

I AM TOO. YES, LET'S IF WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THIS STUFF THAT HAS AN IMPACT AND INFRASTRUCTURE IN OUR PARKS, IT SHOULD BE AT A PUBLIC MEETING. I AGREE, FULL TRANSPARENCY.

[INAUDIBLE]. SOMETIMES. NOT ALL THE TIME. YEAH, BUT I MEAN, WHERE DO YOU ACCESS THAT? IT'S NOT ON THE CITY WEBSITE OR WHAT IS AN OPEN MEETING SO ANYONE CAN COME WHO'S INTERESTED.

RIGHT. THAT'S A WHOLE NOTHER THOUGH. SO LET'S TABLE THAT.

IF YOU HAVE FURTHER CONVERSATION, WE CAN HAVE FURTHER CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT.

GORDY, I'M JUST SUPER EXCITED FOR ALL THE NEW ENERGY AND JUST TO BE WORKING WITH THESE NEW COMMISSIONERS.

IT'S GOING TO BE FUN. [INAUDIBLE]. SOME GOOD THINGS WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS, AND I'M JUST EXCITED TO BUILD ON THAT AND JUST GET NEW PERSPECTIVES. AND YEAH ECHO GORDY'S STATEMENT. YEAH, THERE'S A NEW ENERGY.

WELCOME TO ALL THE NEW PLAYERS ON THIS FIELD OF DREAMS. AND YOU KNOW, WE'LL, YOU KNOW, THE MORE THERE'S A POSITIVE CORRELATION BETWEEN COMMITTEE SIZE AND MEETING TIME.

SO WE'LL JUST HAVE TO GET USED TO THAT. YEAH.

SO WE'RE GOOD TO GO. RIGHT. SO BUT THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND BRINGING THAT NEW ENERGY WITH YOU.

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HOW DO WE GET THE BEST DATA? WHAT IS OUR NORTH STAR TO MAKE THE DECISIONS ON? LIKE TIED TO THE VISION AND THE MISSION OF THE CITY.

HOW DO WE USE THAT TO PRIORITIZE OUR WORK? SO WHEN WE BRING THINGS TO THE COUNCIL, WE HAVE A PRIORITIZATION OR A TWO BY TWO OF IMPORTANT URGENT AND WE JUST HAVE A BETTER CONTEXT. SO WHEN WE GO FORWARD, EVERYTHING'S ON THIS PAGE AND WE'RE SAYING, HERE'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY.

SO I'M HOPING THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES WILL HELP GET US MUCH CLOSER TO THAT AND, YOU KNOW, THE BUDGET AND CITIZEN ENGAGEMENT, OTHER THINGS I WANT TO DO. SO I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING ALL THE QUESTIONS AND JOE FOR YEAH, THANK YOU, JOE, PUTTING UP WITH FOUR NEWBIES.

I'M HERE FOR I WILL COMMIT THAT WE DON'T HAVE 2.5 HOUR MEETINGS GOING FORWARD.

I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS'S TIME TONIGHT AND ENERGY.

AND I ECHO EVERYTHING THAT EVERYONE SAYS. SO WELCOME ABOARD.

WITH THAT, I MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OPPOSED? OKAY. MEETING ADJOURNED.

THANK YOU, EVERYONE.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.