Aug 12, 2024 City Council

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ALRIGHT. WELCOME TO THE MONDAY, AUGUST 12TH, 2024.

[Roll Call]

WE ALWAYS START WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

SO I INVITE YOU TO STAND AND FACE THE FLAG.

RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR THAT.

NEXT UP IS THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA OR APPROVE THE AGENDA AND THE CONSENT AGENDA AT THE SAME TIME AND BEFORE WE DO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA, I'LL GO THROUGH EACH ITEM

[Approval of Agenda]

SO WITH THAT SAID, DOES THE COUNCIL DO I HAVE A MOTION OR ANYBODY HAVE ANY ISSUES ON ANYTHING ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT? OKAY, I'LL TAKE CARE OF IT.

[Consent Agenda]

OKAY, SO WHAT I HAVE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA TONIGHT IS EXCUSE ME.

ONE IS THE CITY COUNCIL MINUTES.

TWO IS THE WORK SESSION SCHEDULE.

THREE IS CLAIMS AND BILLS.

FOUR IS THE RENTAL LICENSE.

FIVE IS RESIGNATION AND RECRUITMENT CITY PLANNER.

SIX IS REROUTE SEWAGE FOR LIFT STATION NUMBER FIVE IMPROVEMENTS 351 WEST LAKE STREET.

SEVEN IS THE SANITARY SEWER REHABILITATION PROJECT CLOSEOUT 23-14.

EIGHT IS A GOLF COURSE DONATION RESOLUTION AND SO WITH THAT, SAY THANK YOU TO THE ORONO LIONS FOR THAT DONATION FOR OUR PAVILION.

AND WE WILL THAT WAS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF A GREAT PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP THAT WE GOT DONE AND WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER PRESENTATION TODAY BY WEST LAKES PICKLEBALL THAT TALKS ABOUT THOSE SAME ISSUES.

NUMBER NINE IS #LA24-000035, 2080 NORTH SHORE DRIVE VARIANCES RESOLUTION 7498.

NUMBER TEN IS #LA24-000034, 2285 AND 2305 BAYVIEW PLACE, VARIANCES, RESOLUTION 7497.

11 IS #LA24-000037, 3545 IVY PLACE, VARIANCE - RESOLUTION NO.

7500. NUMBER 12 IS #LA24-000036, 2697 CASCO POINT ROAD, VARIANCE RESOLUTION NO.

7499 AND NUMBER 13 IS #LA24-000027, 3295 AND 3345 FOX STREET, EASEMENT VACATION AND INTERIM USE PERMIT, RESOLUTION 7496.

SO IS THERE ANY OTHER ITEMS ON HERE THAT ANY OF THE PUBLIC LIKE HAVE TAKEN OFF FOR THE COUNCIL TO TALK MORE ABOUT? SEEING NO OBJECTIONS, I HAVE A MOTION.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER JOHNSON.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE. OPPOSED? NO. THAT PASSES 5 TO 0.

OKAY, I'LL GIVE A COUPLE MINUTE BREATHER IF ANYBODY WANTS TO LEAVE AFTER ALL THEIR AGENDAS GET PASSED BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO OUR PRESENTATION.

OKAY, WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR PRESENTATION THEN, WHICH IS NUMBER 14 BY OUR WEST LAKES FOR OUR WEST LAKES PICKLEBALL PROJECT.

[14. West Lakes Pickleball Project]

I'M SANDY RASMUSSEN, 1186 WILD HORSE TRAIL AND THIS IS MY PARTNER IN CRIME, CAROLINE MELLBERG.

HI, EVERYONE. AND WE'RE HERE TONIGHT TO JUST PROVIDE AN UPDATE TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON THE WEST LAKES PICKLEBALL PROJECT.

YOU MAY REMEMBER THAT IN FEBRUARY, THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED ADDING A DEVELOPMENT FOR A NINE COURT PICKLEBALL COMPLEX NEAR THE DONATION GARDEN AND SO SUBSEQUENT TO THAT TIME, CAROLINE AND I HAVE BEEN CO-CHAIRING THE EFFORT THROUGH ORONO PARKS LEGACY TO DEVELOP A FUNDRAISING CAMPAIGN FOR THE PROJECT.

SO WE WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR MESSAGING WHERE WE ARE TO DATE IN OUR PLANS.

AND SO THERE'S NO ACTION TO BE TAKEN, BUT WE ARE CERTAINLY OPEN FOR INPUT.

CAROLINE IS GOING TO TALK ABOUT A LITTLE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OPL.

I AM NOT A MEMBER OF ORONO PARKS LEGACY.

I AM A VOLUNTEER.

CAROLINE IS A MEMBER OF THE BOARD.

GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. SO ORONO PARKS LEGACY IS A BOARD OF CURRENTLY FOUR OF US VOLUNTEERS WHO ARE WORKING TO WITH THE EXPRESS INTEREST RIGHT NOW TO RAISE MONEY AND SUPPORT THE NINE COURT PICKLEBALL APPROVAL THAT HAPPENED AS SHE MENTIONED.

SO THIS IS A VISUAL OF OUR WEBSITE THAT YOU CAN SEE.

SO WE'VE GOT OUR MISSION AND VISION THERE.

THE WEBSITE IS FULLY FUNCTIONAL NOW.

WE'RE UP AND RUNNING. WE HAVE FULL CAPABILITIES OF ACCEPTING DONATIONS AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE REALLY SEEKING PLEDGES.

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YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

[INAUDIBLE]. YEAH.

READY FOR THAT I THINK.

SO THERE'S A BEAUTIFUL SLIDE OF SOME PICKLEBALL COURTS THAT ARE SIMILAR TO WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING TO BUILD.

GO AHEAD AND FORWARD.

SO THIS IS A PIECE ACTUALLY THAT I THINK I WANT SANDY TO COME UP AND TALK ABOUT, BECAUSE IT REALLY FOCUSES AROUND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT SHE'S REALLY PASSIONATE ABOUT IN TERMS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT SHE'S REALLY BUILT STRONGLY HERE IN ORONO.

SO I'LL TURN IT OVER TO SANDY FOR THIS PIECE.

THANKS, CAROLINE.

SO FIRST OF ALL, I RECALL WHEN WE STARTED THIS PROJECT.

I THINK IT WAS PROBABLY 2021 WHEN CAROLINE FIRST BROUGHT THE IDEA TO THE ORONO PARKS COMMISSION.

I THINK THE BELIEF WAS THAT THERE ARE A FEW OLDER ADULTS IN ORONO WHO LIKE TO PLAY PICKLEBALL, AND A LOT HAS CHANGED OVER THE LAST NUMBER OF YEARS AND I WANT TO JUST MAKE CLEAR TO THIS GROUP THAT THIS IS THE FACE OF PICKLEBALL TODAY.

SO BEN JOHNS, HE'S CONSIDERED THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME TO DATE.

HE'S 25 YEARS OLD AND HE MAKES $2.5 MILLION A YEAR PLAYING PICKLEBALL.

ANNA LEE WALTERS, SHE TURNED PRO WHEN SHE WAS 11 YEARS OLD.

HER MOTHER IS HER COACH.

SHE IS NOW 17, AND SHE IS THE NUMBER ONE WOMAN PLAYER IN THE WORLD.

AND SHE IS WORTH APPROXIMATELY 2.5 OR $2.2 MILLION FAR RIGHT.

THAT IS MY HUSBAND SITTING BEHIND ME AND MY DAUGHTER.

MY DAUGHTER ERIN, FLIES IN FROM COLORADO TO PLAY WITH HER MOTHER AND HER FATHER AT THE WEST HANKO WINTER PICKLEBALL CLASSIC.

TWO WEEKS AGO, I WAS IN COLORADO FOR EIGHT DAYS WITH HER PLAYING IN THE ROCKY MOUNTAIN NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS.

SO IT IS ALL AGES AND IT IS CERTAINLY A FAMILY SPORT.

I HAVE TO TELL YOU A LITTLE STORY ABOUT THAT PICTURE THAT WE STARTED OUR PRESENTATION WITH THAT IS STARING PARK, STARRING PARK IN EDEN PRAIRIE AND I WENT OUT THERE TO TAKE A PICTURE OF THAT PARK, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S JUST A GREAT EXAMPLE OF THE KIND OF PARK WE'D LIKE TO SEE DEVELOPED AND IT WAS A RAINY DAY.

IT WAS A SUNDAY. WE HAD JUST GOTTEN THERE AND THERE WERE THREE YOUNG MEN, MAYBE 11 YEARS OLD, 12 YEARS OLD.

THEIR BIKES WERE LEANING AGAINST THE FENCE, AND THERE WAS AN ADULT FEMALE THERE, AND THEY WERE ABOUT TO START PLAYING PICKLEBALL AND I WAS TAKING MY PHOTOS, AND ONE OF THE BOYS ASKED ME WHAT I WAS DOING, AND I SAID, WELL, I'M TAKING PICTURES FOR A PROJECT I'M WORKING ON.

I WANT TO BUILD SOME COURTS.

HE SAID. OH THAT'S COOL.

DO YOU WANT TO PLAY? AND I SAID, WELL, I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE MY PADDLE WITH ME BECAUSE I HAVE A PADDLE.

WELL, I ONLY HAD SANDALS ON AT THE TIME, BUT I TELL YOU WHAT, I ABSOLUTELY WOULD HAVE PLAYED.

AND SO I JUST WANT TO USE IT AS NOT AND NOT ATYPICAL.

RIGHT. WHAT OTHER SPORT DO YOU KNOW WHERE AN 11 YEAR OLD BOY ASKS A 60 SOMETHING YEAR OLD WOMAN IF SHE WANTS TO PLAY PICKLEBALL, RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT THIS SPORT IS ABOUT.

OKAY.

BUT IT'S MORE IMPORTANT THAN THAT.

THERE ARE A LARGE NUMBER OF STUDIES AND DURING COVID, THIS BECAME VERY CLEAR THAT SOCIAL ISOLATION IS AN ISSUE IN OUR SOCIETY.

I DON'T CARE HOW WEALTHY YOU ARE.

I DON'T CARE WHAT AGE YOU ARE.

SOCIAL ISOLATION IS AN ISSUE, AND PICKLEBALL IS A POWERFUL TOOL TO ADDRESS THAT.

WHY IS IT IMPORTANT? LONELINESS ALONE HAS BEEN ASSOCIATED WITH A 59% INCREASE IN FUNCTIONAL DECLINE, AND A 45% INCREASED RISK OF DEATH, AND SOCIAL ISOLATION HAS BEEN ASSOCIATED WITH A 50% INCREASE IN DEVELOPING THE RISK OF DEMENTIA.

THOSE ARE JUST A COUPLE OF STATISTICS.

LOCALLY, WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS MY FRIEND MARY, WHO PLAYS WITH ME MOST DAYS OF THE WEEK, HER HUSBAND HAS ALZHEIMER'S AND HER HUSBAND PLAYED WITH US WHEN HE WAS IN THE EARLY STAGES OF ALZHEIMER'S AND WE WOULD REMIND HIM TO STAND BEHIND THE LINE AND LET THE BALL BOUNCE.

BUT SHE SAID IT HAD A HUGE IMPACT ON DELAYING THE PROGRESSION OF HIS DISEASE AND NOW PLAYING IS MARY'S CONNECTION TO STAY ENGAGED WHILE BEING THE PRIMARY CAREGIVER FOR HER HUSBAND.

ANOTHER GENTLEMAN WHO PLAYS WITH US, MIKE, WAS DIAGNOSED WITH THROAT CANCER WHILE WE WERE PLAYING PICKLEBALL, AND IT WAS THE PICKLEBALL COMMUNITY WHO, BY THE WAY, DID NOT KNOW MIKE BEFORE HE STARTED PLAYING PICKLEBALL, WHO WERE THERE TO SUPPORT HIM AND ENCOURAGE HIM WHILE HE WAS RECOVERING AND

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SO QUESTION WHAT DO THESE PEOPLE HAVE IN COMMON? TOP LEFT. THESE ARE PEOPLE PLAYING PICKLEBALL IN JANUARY.

YES, IN JANUARY WE WILL SHOVEL COURTS.

SO IT IS NOT JUST A SUMMER SPORT DURING COVID.

THE SECOND ONE IS A GROUP I STARTED, MY HUSBAND STARTED CALLED PICKLEBOATERS BECAUSE WE DECIDED, YOU KNOW, YOU OWN BOATS.

YOU OUGHT TO HAVE FUN.

LET'S ENGAGE OUTSIDE OF PICKLEBALL OFF THE COURT.

MORE THAN 22 OF THE PEOPLE THAT I PLAY WITH VOLUNTEER AT THE WESTONKA FOOD SHELF BECAUSE THEY MET SOMEBODY WHO ALREADY VOLUNTEERED THERE.

THEY GO TO OUR CHURCH FESTIVALS, THEY GO TO OUR LOCAL RESTAURANTS.

THEY CELEBRATE LIFE.

THE BOTTOM RIGHT IS EVERYBODY ENJOYING A CHRISTMAS CONCERT? PUT ON ONE OF THE MEMBERS OF OUR PICKLEBALL GROUP.

BUT HERE'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING.

THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE DID NOT KNOW EACH OTHER BEFORE THEY PLAYED PICKLEBALL.

OKAY. MY NEIGHBOR, WHO LIVES DOWN THE STREET FROM ME FOR THE LAST 30 YEARS, DIDN'T KNOW HIM UNTIL ONE DAY HE WAS WALKING BY THE MAILBOX WITH HIS MASK ON, AND HE LOOKED AT MY HUSBAND, AND MY HUSBAND LOOKED AT HIM.

MY HUSBAND CAME IN AND HE SAID, I HAD THE WEIRDEST EXPERIENCE.

THIS GUY WALKING DOWN THE STREET.

HE'S JUST STARING AT ME.

NEXT DAY HE SAW HIM AT PICKLEBALL.

JIM HERMANSON JIM IS MY NEIGHBOR.

WE PLAYED PICKLEBALL WITH JIM.

JIM GOES. YOU WERE ON WILD HORSE TRAIL THE OTHER DAY, WEREN'T YOU? AND MY HUSBAND SAYS YOU WERE STARING AT ME.

HE SAID, YEP. YEP.

THAT'S HOW WE MET OUR NEIGHBOR, ALONG WITH FOUR OTHER NEIGHBORS WHO LIVE ACROSS THE BAY FROM ME.

OKAY, I'VE LIVED HERE FOR OVER 30 YEARS.

OKAY. THIS IS HOW WE'VE DEVELOPED OUR COMMUNITY AND KEEP GOING AND I LOVE THIS.

I SAW THIS THE OTHER DAY ON THE INTERNET AND I HAD TO STEAL.

IT WASN'T FOR PICKLEBALL. I WOULD NEVER MET YOU AND YOU AND YOU AND YOU AND YOU AND THAT IS TRUE.

THAT IS TRUE AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED IN THIS COMMUNITY IS A REASON TO BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER, TO NOT JUST PLAY PICKLEBALL, BUT TO ENGAGE EACH OTHER SOCIALLY, EMOTIONALLY, TO BUILD SUPPORT SYSTEMS IN OUR COMMUNITY AND THIS IS THE FASTEST GROWING SPORT.

FOR GOOD REASON.

I WOULD SAY THE BARRIER TO ENTRY IS LOW, AKA YOU ONLY NEED A PICKLEBALL PADDLE.

BUT I JUST TOLD YOU A MINUTE AGO, YOU DO NOT NEED A PADDLE.

SOMEONE WILL HAVE ONE FOR YOU.

IT BRINGS TOGETHER OLD AND YOUNG.

WHEN I WAS PLAYING IN COLORADO IN THIS TOURNAMENT, THE AGE BRACKET STARTED AT AGE 11 AND ENDED AT AGE 82.

I WAS SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN.

ANYWAY, ONE PART EXERCISE I WOULD SAY IS TWO PART SOCIAL, AND I AM BEING ABSOLUTELY HONEST WHEN I TELL YOU IT'S MY NUMBER ONE REASON FOR GETTING UP IN THE MORNING SINCE I RETIRED. BUT THESE ARE REALLY INTERESTING STATISTICS.

PEOPLE AGES 6 TO 17 MAKE UP OVER 21% OF PICKLEBALL PLAYERS, AND PLAYERS UNDER 24 HAD THE FASTEST GROWTH RATE IN 2022. 14% OF THE ADULT POPULATION PLAYED PICKLEBALL AT LEAST ONCE IN 2023, AND BASED UPON GOOGLE TREND DATA FROM 2019 THROUGH 2023.

MINNESOTA RANKS IN THE TOP FIVE U.S.

STATES WITH THE HIGHEST PICKLEBALL INTEREST.

OKAY, THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT IN OUR STATE.

[INAUDIBLE]. ALL RIGHT.

SO I'M GOING TO TURN THIS OVER TO CAROLINE.

SHE'S GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE PROJECT.

SHE'S GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE FUNDRAISING AND I JUST WANT TO LEAVE YOU WITH ONE THOUGHT.

ANYBODY RECOGNIZE THIS? ANYBODY OVER HERE RECOGNIZE THIS? ANYBODY HERE RECOGNIZE THIS? IT'S ONE OF THE NEWEST PICKLEBALL BRANDS YOU CAN FIND AT MICHAEL LYNN SPORT.

IS THERE? THE OTHER DAY, I HAPPENED TO BUY IT BECAUSE I THINK IT'S COOL.

LOOK. RIGHT.

I FOUND OUT LAST WEEK TWO OF THE FOUNDERS.

ORONO RESIDENTS.

OKAY. IT'S IMPORTANT ECONOMICALLY IN OUR COMMUNITY AND IT'S IMPORTANT SOCIALLY IN OUR COMMUNITY.

SO ANYWAY, YOU CAN TELL I'M PASSIONATE ABOUT IT.

I HOPE THAT YOU WILL ALL IN WHATEVER WAYS YOU CAN, HELP TO SOCIALIZE AND SPREAD THE WORD AND HELP US WITH FUNDRAISING.

I REALIZE YOU CAN'T FUNDRAISE, BUT HELPING US AS WE TRY TO GET INTRODUCED TO THE LISTS OF PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE TARGETED AND THE BUSINESSES THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT TO ENGAGE IN SUPPORTING OUR CAUSE.

I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE VERY IMPORTANT.

SO AS SANDY MENTIONED, WE ARE INITIATED THIS PROJECT.

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I THINK SHE DOES A REALLY GOOD JOB OF EXPLAINING HOW PICKLEBALL IS MORE THAN JUST NINE COURTS, YOU KNOW.

NINE, YOU KNOW, A SPACE OF ASPHALT WITH NINE COURTS AND SOME NETS.

IT'S REALLY GIVING PEOPLE THE AREA TO BE ABLE TO COME AND PLAY AND SOCIALIZE AND BUILD THAT COMMUNITY AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT FOR ORONO.

SO NINE FENCED COURTS, PARKING FOR 40 TO 50 VEHICLES.

WE ARE WORKING WITH ORONO COMMUNITY EDUCATION TO CREATE PROGRAMS BECAUSE THAT'S THE OTHER PIECE OF IT.

DONORS TO A PROGRAM LIKE THIS DON'T WANT TO JUST DONATE TO ASPHALT ON THE GROUND.

THEY WANT TO DONATE TO A PROGRAM THAT'S GOING TO ACTUALLY DRIVE THAT COMMUNITY AND SO WORKING WITH ORONO COMMUNITY EDUCATION, WE'RE CREATING AN ACTUAL PROGRAMING CALENDAR THAT WILL HAVE ALL SORTS OF THINGS.

YOU KNOW, THERE CAN BE LADIES NIGHTS, MEN'S NIGHTS, KIDS NIGHTS, KIDS DAYS ALL DIFFERENT TYPES OF PROGRAMING AS WELL AS INSTRUCTORS WHERE PEOPLE CAN SIGN UP AND ACTUALLY GET INSTRUCTION AND LEARN THE GAME AND COME OUT AND ACTUALLY BECOME BETTER AT THE SPORT.

BUT A VAST MAJORITY OF THE TIME WILL STILL BE DEDICATED TO DROP IN PLAY, BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY THE SPIRIT OF COMMUNITY THAT WE WANT TO BUILD.

YOU CAN GO TO ANY PRIVATE CLUB AND HAVE TO SIGN UP AND BECOME A MEMBER AND BE VETTED TO BECOME A MEMBER AND ALL OF THAT SORT OF THING.

BUT IN ORDER TO REALLY ENJOY PICKLEBALL THE WAY IT WAS INTENDED TO BE ENJOYED, IT'S A DROP IN SPORT.

LIKE SANDY SAID, SHE SHOWED UP AND AN 11 YEAR OLD BOY CAME UP TO HER AND INVITED HER TO PLAY PICKLEBALL AND THAT'S THE SPIRIT OF THE PICKLEBALL COMMUNITY THAT WE WANT TO KEEP FOSTERING HERE.

SO WE HAVE A COMMITMENT OF OVER $375,000.

PARCEL OF LAND NEAR THE LONG LAKE FIRE STATION.

I THINK EVERYONE'S FAMILIAR WITH WHERE THAT LOCATION IS, BETWEEN THE FIRE STATION AND THE DONATION GARDEN, AND A GOOD FAITH INTENT TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT, LANDSCAPING, TRAILS, SIDEWALKS, AND DESIGN WORK OF A SOLID FOUNDATION.

WE ARE LOOKING TO RAISE $800,000 TO BUILD THE COURTS THAT WE ARE LOOKING TO BUILD, AND WE WANT TO DO THAT THROUGH GRANTS AS WELL AS PUBLIC DONATIONS. DONATIONS FROM THE COMMUNITY.

GO AHEAD. THIS IS THAT SAMPLE PROGRAMING.

IT'S JUST A, YOU KNOW, A SAMPLE OF HOW THIS PROGRAMING MAY LAY OUT.

AND AGAIN, WE CAN DO ANY KIND OF PROGRAMING THAT COMMUNITY MEMBERS COME FORWARD WITH AND SAY, YOU KNOW, HEY, WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THIS TYPE OF PROGRAMING.

SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE OPTIONS FOR FUNDRAISING.

WE ARE TAKING PLEDGES FOR SOME OF THESE THINGS.

SO A FOUNDING MEMBER AND LEGACY PLEDGE FOR GIFTS 5000 AND ABOVE, CORPORATE SPONSORSHIPS FOR 3000 TO $7500 AND OUR PAVING THE WAY CAMPAIGN FOR A PAVER PROGRAM WHERE NAME ON A PAVER WITH DIFFERENT SIZED PAVERS AND DIFFERENT AMOUNTS FROM 500 TO $2000.

WE ALSO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO NAME THE PARK.

SO FOR A DONOR WHO WANTS A LEGACY AND WANTS TO NAME THE PARK, WE HAVE THAT OPTION.

SO A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE'RE ASKING COMMUNITY AND BUSINESSES TO COME FORWARD AND ACTUALLY COMMIT AND AND CONTRIBUTE TO BUILDING THIS COMMUNITY AND THESE ARE THE DIFFERENT SPONSORSHIP LEVELS.

SO A NET LEGACY SPONSOR, $35,000, SPONSORS ALL OF THE NETS.

SO YOU'LL SEE IN A LOT OF COURTS THAT YOU GO.

INTERESTINGLY, YOU KNOW, TREA OR TWIN CITIES ORTHOPEDICS HAVE GOTTEN INTO THE IDEA THAT THIS IS A GOOD THING TO SPONSOR.

AND SO THEY PUT THEIR NAME ON THE NETS.

BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY THERE TO HAVE SOME REALLY STRONG SPONSORSHIP SUPPORT.

$25,000 COURT LEGACY SPONSOR.

WE CAN YOU CAN SPONSOR AN INDIVIDUAL COURT OR BECOME A FOUNDING MEMBER WITH 5 TO $25,000 SPONSORSHIPS.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS THAT PEOPLE CAN SUPPORT AND WE'RE BEGINNING THIS OUTREACH NOW.

WE'RE GOING TO BE OUTREACHING TO COMMUNITY MEMBERS DIRECTLY TO BUSINESSES IN THE COMMUNITY, AND TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE EXPRESSED AN INTEREST IN THE FROM THE PICKLEBALL COMMUNITY. THESE ARE SOME ADDITIONAL DETAILS ON THE TYPE OF ADVERTISING SPONSORSHIPS THAT BUSINESSES MIGHT PARTICIPATE IN. SO BANNERS ON THE COURT PLATINUM SPONSOR.

THERE'S NINE COURTS AVAILABLE.

SO BANNERS FOR A PERIOD OF THREE YEARS.

A GOLD SPONSOR WITH A NAME ON A VINYL BANNER, THREE BY FIVE FOR THREE YEARS AND THEN A SILVER SPONSOR, OF WHICH THERE ARE 20 AVAILABLE, FOUR BY 12 BANNER FOR THREE YEARS. SO LOTS OF OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR BUSINESSES AS WELL TO GET THEIR NAME IN FRONT OF AN ENGAGED PICKLEBALL COMMUNITY WHERE PEOPLE WHO ARE COMING TO PLAY DAY AFTER DAY AFTER DAY

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WE'RE THINKING OF A PAVER WALL, A LITTLE LESS MAINTENANCE WITH PEOPLE WALKING ON IT.

DAMAGE TO THE PAVERS AND THAT TYPE OF THING.

SO WE'RE TAKING THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AS WELL.

SO WHERE CAN YOU PLEDGE? THIS IS OUR WEBSITE AND IF YOU GO TO THAT WEBSITE ADDRESS THAT'S ON THE SCREEN, YOU CAN SEE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ACTUALLY PLEDGE OR ACTUALLY DONATE TODAY.

ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE I WRAP UP? YEAH. CAN YOU MENTION THE TWO? OH YEP. WE HAVE TWO EVENTS THAT ARE COMING UP.

ONE IS HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE BEEN TO JAMES J.

HILDA'S IN WAYZATA? JAMES. OKAY, WELL, THE ORONO PARKS LEGACY GROUP IS GOING TO HAVE A BOOTH AT JAMES J.

HILDA'S FOR FRIDAY NIGHT, SATURDAY AND SUNDAY, WHICH IS SEPTEMBER 6TH, SEVENTH AND EIGHTH THIS YEAR AND WE WILL HAVE A COURT SET UP ADJACENT TO OUR BOOTH WHERE PEOPLE CAN PLAY PICKLEBALL.

WE'LL HAVE INSTRUCTORS THERE TEACHING PEOPLE HOW TO PLAY DURING THE EVENT AND WILL BE RAISING AWARENESS AND TAKING DONATIONS THERE AS WELL.

SO THAT'S ONE EVENT AND THEN ON THE 9TH OF SEPTEMBER, FOLLOWING RIGHT UP BEHIND THAT, WE HAVE AN OPEN HOUSE AT THE WAYZATA COUNTRY CLUB, WHERE THEY HAVE PICKLEBALL COURTS THAT THEY'RE OPENING TO US TO USE AS A OPEN HOUSE TO GENERATE EXCITEMENT AND AWARENESS AND SO WE'LL BE DOING AN OPEN HOUSE THERE AND EVERYONE CAN COME DROP IN. WE'LL HAVE PICKLEBALL INSTRUCTORS THERE AS WELL.

THE ABILITY TO PLAY PICKLEBALL AND REALLY JOIN IN THE FUN THERE AS WELL.

SO SOME PRETTY HIGH EXPOSURE EVENTS COMING UP IN EARLY SEPTEMBER THAT WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT.

I THINK IT'S VERY EXCITING THAT YOU GUYS HAVE PUT THIS TOGETHER.

I KNOW WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, AND I THINK ALL THE SPONSORING STUFF IS, YOU KNOW, PRETTY PAR FOR THE COURSE.

I MEAN, YOU GO OVER TO ANY ICE RINK AND YOU'LL SEE THE DASHER BOARDS ALL AROUND THE WHOLE PLACE.

I MEAN, EVEN WITH THE ICE RINK OVER HERE, YOU'LL SEE ALL THE BIG BANNERS UP ON TOP AND THEY HAVE THE SCOREBOARD WITH THE NAME ON IT.

THE FOOTBALL STADIUM, THEY GOT THE SCOREBOARD.

THEY GOT THEY GOT THE PAVERS OVER AT THE FOOTBALL STADIUM.

I HAVE BEEN TO OTHER STADIUMS WITH ALL MY DAUGHTERS IN THEIR SPORTS WEAR.

SOME OF THEM DO HAVE THE WALLS.

BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY OVER TIME BETWEEN SALT AND ALL THAT OTHER STUFF, THEY CAN BREAK.

BUT THERE'S ALWAYS DIFFERENT.

BUT I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA TO KIND OF GET OUT THERE AND START HELPING DO IT ALL.

I KNOW WHEN WE STARTED THIS WITH BIG ISLAND, WE WERE WE KIND OF DID THE SAME THING AS THE PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP AND WE HAD, YOU KNOW, GRANTS, WE HAD PUBLIC DOLLARS.

WE KIND OF HAD ALL THAT KIND OF TAKES, A WHOLE FAMILY ESSENTIALLY TO KIND OF PUT ALL THAT TOGETHER.

SO BUT I LOVE THE WEBSITE.

IT'S GOING GREAT. SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN KIND OF GET OFF THE GROUND AND GET GET SOMETHING ROLLING HERE.

THAT'S AWESOME. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY THOUGHTS? IT WAS A TERRIFIC PRESENTATION LADIES.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

I HAVE ONE QUESTION UP THERE.

YOU PUT THE PICTURES TO START AND YOU PUT EVERYBODY'S RANKING.

BUT YOU LEFT YOUR RANKING AND YOUR DAUGHTER'S RANKING OFF.

[INAUDIBLE]. THEY WERE NUMBER ONE IN THERE.

YOU WERE QUICK TO SHARE YOUR AGE, BUT NOT YOUR RANKING.

WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I THOUGHT IT WAS GREAT TO BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER ANY WAY THAT WE CAN BUILD COMMUNITY.

I'M A SUPPORTER OF AND I APPRECIATE YOUR ENTHUSIASM FOR THIS PROJECT.

THANK YOU. WE'LL BE BACK ONCE WE FIND A SPONSOR FOR THE NAME [INAUDIBLE] AND WE HAVE TO ACCEPT THE DONATIONS, AND WE HAVE TO DO ALL THAT AND I THINK LIKE THIS GOES BACK TO WHAT RICHARD SAY MANY TIMES AND WE WANT PEOPLE TO USE OUR PARKS, RIGHT? WE WANT THEM TO BE IN THERE AND I KNOW WE SAW A LOT OF ALL THIS SOCIAL ISOLATION ISSUES FOR SURE WHEN WE WERE THROUGH COVID IN ADULTS AND IN KIDS AND KIND OF STILL RECOVERING FROM SOME OF THAT AS WELL.

SO I THINK IT'S GREAT TO GET PEOPLE OUT.

I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT WE NEED IS ACTIVITIES FOR SURE.

SO YEAH, THANKS FOR YOUR VERY FIRST SCHOOL SYSTEM IN MARYLAND IN THE STATE OF MARYLAND [INAUDIBLE] DESIGNATED PICKLEBALL, AS A VARSITY SPORT AND THE REASON IS BECAUSE IT'S THE MOST INCLUSIVE SPORT ANYBODY CAN PLAY.

THAT'S AWESOME.

NICE. WELL. GOOD LUCK.

THANKS FOR VOLUNTEERING. THANK YOU.

GOOD LUCK. THANK YOU.

HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. THANKS.

ALL RIGHT. WELL, THAT'LL BRING US TO OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT REPORT.

[15. #LA24-000038, 3245 Wayzata Boulevard, Interim Use Permit – Grading, Resolution 7501]

LAURA. THANK YOU.

YES. SO I HAVE A FEW DIFFERENT THINGS.

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SO I'M JUST GOING TO START WITH PROBABLY A GRADING PLAN, SINCE THAT'S KIND OF THE SCOPE OF WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT TONIGHT.

SO IN FRONT OF YOU IS AN INTERIM USE PERMIT.

THE APPLICANT IS ASKING FOR APPROVAL TO REMEDIATE SOIL ON A CONTAMINATED SITE.

THIS WOULD INCLUDE BERMING OR EMBANKING A LARGE PORTION OF THE SOIL ON THE SOUTH SIDE AND THEN PROVIDING CLEAN FILL AND A CLEAN SITE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PARCEL.

THEY ARE COORDINATING WITH MPCA, WHICH IS MINNESOTA POLLUTION CONTROL AGENCY AND MINNEHAHA CREEK WATERSHED DISTRICT.

MPCA GUIDELINES INCLUDE LIMITING THE BERM TO A MAXIMUM 25% SLOPE, LIMITING THE HEIGHT OF THE BERM, AND ANNUAL REPORTING AS PART OF THE MOVEMENT AND STORAGE OF CONTAMINATED MATERIAL.

THE SITE WILL BE FILLED WITH CLEAN SOIL TO CREATE A BUILDABLE SPACE ON A PORTION ON THE NORTH SIDE FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.

THE APPLICATION IS NOT PROPOSING ANY BUILDINGS OR INFRASTRUCTURE AT THIS TIME.

THIS APPLICATION IS JUST FOR GRADING OF THE SITE.

JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE.

DESCRIPTION. THE SITE HAS TWO LARGE WETLANDS THAT KIND OF BOOKEND THE EAST AND THE WEST SIDE.

ON THE AND IS LOCATED WITH WAYZATA BOULEVARD TO THE NORTH AND HIGHWAY 12 TO THE SOUTH.

THE APPLICANT PLANS TO REMOVE THE TREES AND DEMO THE EXISTING BUILDING.

I HAVE PROBABLY THIS ONE WILL BE MOST HELPFUL.

JUST AN AERIAL IMAGE, KIND OF OF THE SITE, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

SO YOU CAN SEE THE BROWN IS THE WETLANDS.

THERE'S A LITTLE BUILDING OVER HERE ALONG THE NORTH SIDE, AND THEY'RE PROPOSING A LARGE KIND OF BERM DOWN HERE ON THE SOUTH SIDE.

THE EXISTING CONTAMINATED AREA IS ROUGHLY 9.86 ACRES IN SIZE.

THE PROJECT WILL EXCAVATE APPROXIMATELY FIVE JUST OVER JUST PUSHING FIVE AND A HALF ACRES AND CONSOLIDATE THE CONTAMINATED MATERIAL ON THE LAND TO ROUGHLY 4.2 ACRES TO THE SOUTH.

THE PLAN IDENTIFIES THAT THE WORK WILL EXTEND INTO THE EDGES OF THE WETLAND, AS THAT'S WHERE SOME CONTAMINATED SOIL IS LOCATED, BUT THEY WILL THEN RESTORE THAT TO PREEXISTING CONTOURS AND GRADING WITH THE RACE REMOVAL AND VEGETATION.

THE PROJECT WILL INCLUDE APPROXIMATELY 67,000YD³ OF EXCAVATION AND WASTE MATERIAL.

THE CLEAN SOIL WILL BE SPREAD OVER THE CONTAMINATED MATERIAL OR OVER THE SPOT THAT'S EXCAVATED, AS WELL AS CAPPING THE EMBANKMENT OR THE BERM. FOLLOWING MPCA GUIDELINES, THE APPLICANT REQUESTED INTERIM USE PERMIT FOR A GRADING TO AND FOR CREATION OF THIS BERM.

FOR CONTAMINATION FOR THE CONTAMINATED SOIL AND THEN FOR THE CLEAN SOIL ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE LOT.

JUST AS A REVIEW, AN INTERIM USE PERMIT IS REQUIRED FOR SUBSTANTIAL LAND.

ALTERATIONS ARE PROPOSED FOR THIS PROPERTY AS IT'S WITHIN THE SHORELAND.

ANY PROPERTIES OVER FIVE ACRES IN SIZE WHICH THIS PARCEL IS WOULD REQUIRE AN INTERIM USE PERMIT WHEN YOU DISTURB OVER 20,000FT².

SO BEING THAT THIS WILL DISTURB PUSHING TEN ACRES IN SIZE, THIS IS QUITE A LARGE GRADING PROJECT.

PLANNING COMMISSION HELD A PUBLIC HEARING IN JULY.

NO PUBLIC COMMENTS WERE RECEIVED, BOTH WRITTEN OR AT THAT MEETING.

COMMISSIONERS DISCUSSED THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT.

ASKED FOR. ASKED SOME QUESTIONS TO THE APPLICANT ABOUT SCALE AND SIZING.

THEY DID EXPRESS SOME CONCERNS REGARDING THE QUANTITY OF CONTAINMENT, THE NUMBER OF BORES, SOIL BORINGS.

THEY DID JUST KIND OF THAT INFORMATION.

THEY ALSO THEY ENDED UP MAKING A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE IUP.

CONDITIONED ON THE BERM SHOULD NOT BE CONSTRUCTED BEYOND THE PLAN THAT'S PROPOSED.

THEY WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT.

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? THEY BASICALLY, THE COMMISSIONER WANTED TO SAY, THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING.

THIS IS WHAT WE EXPECT TO BE DELIVERED.

IF YOU NEED TO ALTER OR CHANGE THAT BASED ON WHAT YOU FIND ON THE SITE, WE'D LIKE YOU TO COME BACK OR PRESENT AMENDED PLANS BACK TO THE PROCESS, SINCE THIS IS SUCH A LARGE SCALE. AFTER FURTHER DISCUSSION WITH MPCA.

MPCA WILL LIMIT THE BERM TO A 25% SLOPE, WHICH IS WHAT THE PLANS ARE PROPOSING.

SO THE MPCA WOULD NOT BE INTERESTED IN APPROVING A PLAN SET THAT WOULD CREATE A STEEPER BERM THAN WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING, WHICH REALLY LIMITS THE SIZE.

BECAUSE OF THAT BOOK ENDED ON THE WETLAND, THEM BEING CONFINED ON THE WETLANDS ON EITHER SIDE.

SO IN FRONT OF YOU.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE IAP, CONDITIONED UPON COMPLIANCE WITH THE PERMITTING REQUIREMENTS OF MPCA AND MINNEHAHA CREEK, WHICH INCLUDES A MAXIMUM OF 25% SLOPE OF THE PROPOSED BERM.

COUNCIL HAS TO MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL ON THIS IUP WITH THE DEFINED CONDITIONS, AND A DRAFT RESOLUTION IS INCLUDED IN THE PACKET.

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I HAVE A FEW MORE IMAGES.

I HAVE MORE PLAN SETS. I'D BE HAPPY TO WALK THROUGH THOSE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

WHAT IS THE 25% SLOPE MEAN IN TERMS OF HEIGHT? IT'S A GEOMETRY QUESTION.

I THINK IT'S JUST I THINK IT'S AROUND BETWEEN 35 AND 43FT, DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU WHERE YOU GRAB IT FROM.

40FT WOULD BE THE TALLEST POINT.

I THINK IT'S AVERAGING AROUND 36FT IN HEIGHT AND LAURA, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF THE SAMPLES DIDN'T GIVE A GREAT ASSESSMENT AND THERE IS MUCH MORE SOIL THAT'S CONTAMINATED. WHAT ASSURANCES WOULD THERE BE? RIGHT. SO I TALKED TO THE MPCA ABOUT THAT.

THEY SAID THAT MOST OF THE TIME WHEN A DEVELOPER, SOMEONE'S LOOKING TO ACTIVELY CLEAN UP A SITE, THEY ARE USUALLY MOTIVATED TO BE THE MOST KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT WHAT'S ON THE SITE SO THEY CAN ESTIMATE COSTS AND A PLAN SET WHEN THEY ARE ASKING ENGINEERS AND ALL THESE PEOPLE TO PULL PLANS TOGETHER ABOUT WHAT'S REALISTIC AND SO THE MPCA IS FAIRLY CONFIDENT THAT THIS SITE HAS DONE A LARGE NUMBER OF BORINGS AND HAS A GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF THE CONTAMINATION SCOPE ON THE SITE.

THAT BEING SAID, IF THEY FOUND MORE AND THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO ENLARGE THIS BERM BECAUSE OF THE SIZING AND THE SLOPE, THEY WOULD THEN BE FORCED TO DO HAULING AND RIGHT NOW THEY'RE NOT PROPOSING ANY HAULING.

SO IF THEY WERE TO CHANGE THAT, WE'D WANT THEM TO COME BACK WITH A HAUL ROUTE AND RE AMEND THEIR PLANS TO SHOW US HOW THEY'RE GOING TO ADDRESS THAT.

THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.

THE APPLICANT HERE, THEY WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND TALK ABOUT THEIR PROJECT.

GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

THANK YOU LAURA. MY NAME IS KELSEY THOMPSON.

LAKE WEST 14525, HIGHWAY 7 AND MINNETONKA.

THE PLANS ARE PRETTY BASIC.

WE'RE JUST REALLY LOOKING TO CLEAN UP THE ENVIRONMENT.

AND WORK WITH THE MPCA AND THEIR BEST PRACTICES TO DO THE SITE CLEANUP.

SO THIS IS KIND OF WHERE WE'RE STARTING TO, YOU KNOW, WORK TOWARD EVENTUALLY WILL COME DOWN THE ROAD WITH A PROPOSAL FOR DEVELOPMENT.

BUT I THINK LAURA DID A GREAT JOB IN YOUR PRESENTATION.

YOU COVERED IT ALL. SO I REALLY DIDN'T PREPARE A PRESENTATION.

ALSO TOUGH TO FOLLOW WITH THE PICKLEBALL PRESENTATION BY WEST LAKE, WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN LAKE WEST.

BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HERE TO ANSWER THE BEST I CAN AND WE'RE JUST LOOKING TO START THIS CLEANUP PROCESS.

IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME COMING.

I GUESS I JUST HAVE TWO QUESTIONS.

ONE IS. SO YOU'RE LOOKING TO GET RID OF ALL OF THOSE TREES THAT ARE IN THAT BERM UP AREA? YEAH, TO REALLY CLEAN UP THE ENVIRONMENT UP THERE AND GET THE CONTAMINATED GROUNDWATER OUT, WE WOULD NEED TO REMOVE THE TREES.

AS, AS PROPOSED HERE AND SO THAT'S GOING TO BE I MEAN, WITH THE TREES GONE.

YOU'RE JUST GOING TO JUST SEE CLEARLY IN THERE, ESSENTIALLY AND YOU HAVE THIS 30 TO 40 FOOT HIGH MOUND OF DIRT, ESSENTIALLY.

YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE BERM ON THE SOUTH.

YEAH. SO THE BERM ON THE SOUTH.

YOU KNOW, THE TOPOGRAPHY OF THE SITE.

I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU WOULD SEE THAT VERY CLEARLY FROM WAYZATA BOULEVARD, ALSO FROM HIGHWAY 12.

I BELIEVE THE HIGHWAY IS A LITTLE HIGHER THAN THE THAN WHERE THE BERM WOULD BE OR LOWER OR THERE'S A TOPOGRAPHY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE HIGHWAY IN YOUR SITE.

SO YEAH, TO PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, A NICE LANDSCAPING BERM FOR THE HIGHWAY.

BUT AS FAR AS WHAT, LIKE A LINE OF SIGHT MIGHT LOOK LIKE, I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A 40 FOOT, YOU KNOW, BERM FROM WAYZATA BOULEVARD.

I MEAN, IT'S GOOD YOU'RE GOING TO CLEAN IT UP.

I MEAN, MAYBE A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THIS WAS A DUMP FOR I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY DECADES AND NOW IT'S GOT TO GET CLEANED UP OR.

HOPEFULLY CAN GET CLEANED UP.

PART OF THE CONCERN IS THAT WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO GO BRING ALL THAT STUFF SINCE THERE'S NO HAULING PLANS, SO EVERYTHING IS GOING TO STAY ON SITE AND THAT WE'RE ALL THE DIRT IS OR WHERE ALL THE STUFF YOU'RE GOING TO HAUL OUT IS GOING TO GO IN THIS BERM IS GOING TO EAT UP.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY ACRES OF LAND.

HOW IS THAT GOING TO GET REPLENISHED BACK INTO THE BUILDABLE PART OF YOUR DEVELOPMENT? SO THE MPCA HAS GUIDELINES ON WHAT WE CAN DO ON THE LANDSCAPING BERM.

WE CAN LANDSCAPE IT.

WE CAN HAVE LIKE A I BELIEVE WE CAN HAVE LIKE A WALKING TRAIL ALONG IT.

WE CAN PLANT TREES ON IT.

WE HAVE THAT'S WHAT WE KNOW WE CAN DO ON THE ACTUAL BERM WE CAN'T BUILD.

I DON'T BELIEVE WE CAN BUILD, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE ON THE BERM ITSELF, BUT DO YOU HAVE ANY PLANS TO EVER THEN TRANSPORT THE REST OF THAT OUT WHEN YOU DO WANT TO DEVELOP IT, OR THAT'S WHERE YOU THINK PERMANENTLY YOU WANT ALL THAT STUFF TO RESIDE.

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IT COULD BE THAT IF DOWN THE ROAD WE, YOU KNOW, FIND A SOLUTION TO HAULING THAT MATERIAL OFF SITE TO CREATE MORE BUILDABLE LAND.

WE COULD EXPLORE THAT.

YOU KNOW, WHEN THAT TIME COMES OR IF THAT TIME COMES.

BUT RIGHT NOW, THIS IS JUST A WAY TO, YOU KNOW, START THE CLEANUP PROCESS, MOVING IT ON SITE.

YEAH. OKAY.

SO WHEN WE SAW THIS THE FIRST TIME, THIS YOU KNOW, YOU ALSO HAD YOUR BUILDINGS AND YOU'RE GOING TO PHASE IT INTO ONE AND TWO. I JUST WANTED TO BE CERTAIN THAT THIS IS BEING DONE AS A SINGULAR.

THE WHOLE SITE'S GETTING CLEANED UP AT ONE TIME.

YES AND THEN THE MOUND CAN ONLY BE SO BIG AND THEN IF YOU FIND THAT THERE IS ADDITIONAL CONTAMINANTS THAT ARE BIGGER THAN THIS BERM, THEN YOU'VE ALREADY HAVE SOUGHT THE PERMISSION TO HAVE IT REMOVED AND TAKEN ELSEWHERE.

THEN SO THERE'S A WE HAVE A RESPONSE ACTION PLAN THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANTS STANTEC ON.

WE'VE GOT THAT SUBMITTED INTO THE MPCA.

IT'S IN THEIR REVIEW.

SO THAT THAT RESPONSE ACTION PLAN IS LIKE OVER 80 PAGES AND IT'S VERY COMPREHENSIVE AND, YOU KNOW, IT ADDRESSES LIKE, IF WE FIND THIS IS WHAT WE DO AND SO IF SOMETHING WERE TO COME UP ON SITE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T SUSPECT IS THERE, WE'VE GOT PROFESSIONALS TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE A PLAN WHAT TO DO WITH THAT, WHETHER IT'S TO HAUL IT OFF SITE OR, YOU KNOW, WHAT HAVE YOU, DEPENDING ON WHAT IT IS.

I DON'T WE DON'T HAVE LIKE A, YOU KNOW, A MEETING WITH, I DON'T KNOW, THE WHOLE OF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? WE DON'T HAVE THAT NECESSARILY IN PLACE LIKE A CONTRACTOR LINED UP TO HAUL IT OFF SITE.

BUT WE'VE GOT THE RESPONSE ACTION PLAN IN PLACE.

THAT MAKES SENSE. YEAH.

I MEAN, I THINK WHAT WE WOULDN'T WANT TO HAVE HAPPEN OR I WOULDN'T WANT TO SEE HAPPEN IS FOR THIS TO BE HALFWAY THROUGH AND DECIDE IT'S A BIGGER JOB THAN ANYONE WAS EXPECTING, AND THEN THERE'S NO FUNDING OR A PLAN, REGARDLESS OF WHAT IS DECIDED, YOU KNOW, AS DETERMINED ONCE YOU START DIGGING IN THERE, THAT ONCE IT STARTS THAT THERE'S SOME CERTAINTY THAT IT WILL GET TO COMPLETION.

THAT MAKES SENSE. I APPRECIATE THAT CONCERN.

AS LAURA MENTIONED, WE'VE DONE EXTENSIVE SOIL BORING AND TESTING, AND WE HAD, YOU KNOW, COMPANIES LIKE STANTEC AND FOLKS FROM, YOU KNOW, OUR CONSULTING GROUPS OUT ON SITE TO ADDRESS, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE THINK IS IN THE GROUND AND WE THINK WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD SCOPE AND HANDLE ON THAT.

BUT IF THINGS DO COME UP, THAT ARE UNFORESEEN THINGS WHICH COULD HAPPEN.

WE DEFINITELY WILL ADDRESS THAT AT THE TIME.

AND DON'T THINK THAT WOULD HOLD UP THE PROJECT.

WE NEED TO CLEAN UP THE SITE AND I THINK THIS IS THE BEST PATH FORWARD.

OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE ANY PLANS TO REPLACE THE TREES THAT ARE REMOVED OR SO THESE PLANS JUST CALL FOR SOME SEED, YOU KNOW, TO HELP STABILIZE THE GROUND UNTIL IT'S DEVELOPED AND WE DON'T I DON'T BELIEVE A TREE REPLACEMENT PLAN IS REQUIRED WITH THIS, BUT DOWN THE ROAD WITH DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WE WOULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, A LANDSCAPING PLAN WITH THAT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ALL RIGHT. WELL, THIS IS OBVIOUSLY IT'S SIMPLE BECAUSE IT'S JUST A SIMPLE GRADING PLAN.

WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT OR THE BUILDING OR DENSITY OR ANYTHING RIGHT NOW, SO I DON'T SEE ANY REASON NOT TO SAY MOVE FORWARD.

OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE OUR CONCERNS, BUT I THINK IN OUR STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS YOU'VE GOT APPROVALS FROM THE CORRECT PEOPLE AND OUR MAXIMUM SLOPE, WHICH I THINK ADDRESSES THE CONCERNS FROM COMPLETING THE JOB AND THEN WHERE IT GOES FROM THERE, I GUESS, WOULD BE UP TO THE DEVELOPER TO BRING THE NEXT KIND OF DIRECTION OF WHERE THEY WANT TO GO WITH THAT.

SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

SO OUR ONLY JURISDICTION ON THIS IS GIVING THE IUP SO THAT THEY CAN MOVE THE DIRT AROUND.

BUT THE MPCA AND MCWD ARE REALLY THE AUTHORITIES THAT HAVE THE JURISDICTION OVER THE CONTAMINATED SOILS AND THE PROCESS.

RIGHT? YEAH, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.

LAKE WEST IS WORKING WITH THE BROWNFIELDS PROGRAM THROUGH MPCA AND SO I KNOW THEY I TALKED TO MPCA, THEY'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE COMMENTS BACK AND FORTH ON THAT RESPONSE ACTION PLAN THAT TALKS ABOUT DIFFERENT AVENUES OF HOW TO ADDRESS DIFFERENT THINGS, BUT MPCA IS THE EXPERT ON HOW TO DEAL WITH CONTAMINATED SOIL, AND THE MPCA WILL ADDRESS THE WETLAND MANAGEMENT OF IT.

OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE?

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COUNCIL MEMBER CROSBY, A SECOND? SECONDED. COUNCILMEMBER JOHNSON.

ANY OTHER SUGGESTION? SEEING NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE.

OPPOSED? NO.

THAT PASSES FIVE ZERO.

THANK YOU FOR COMING.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT REPORT TODAY, LAURA? YES. I HAVE A SLIDE HERE.

SO HERE'S A PERMIT SLIDE FOR THE JULY OF LESS IN VALUE BUT THE SAME OR SIMILAR NUMBER OF PERMITS.

SO WE ISSUED 132 PERMITS TO FLY IN JUNE.

YOU CAN SEE WE HAD A HIGH REVENUE, AND THAT WAS 128 PERMITS THAT WE HAD ISSUED AND THEN IN MAY, AGAIN, A HIGH PERMIT REVENUE, AND THAT WAS 137 PERMITS SO LOWER IN REVENUE.

I THINK THAT HAD TO DO WITH WE DIDN'T REALLY WE ONLY ISSUED ONE NEW CONSTRUCTION IN JULY, AND THAT WAS FOR A CABIN OUT ON BIG ISLAND.

SO A RELATIVELY SMALL NEW CONSTRUCTION PROJECT.

IN OTHER NEWS, FOR THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE WORKING ON SOME ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS AND OUR WORK SESSION, SO WE'LL BE PURSUING SOME STAFF TIME WORKING ON THOSE. WE'VE HAD A HANDFUL OF MEETINGS ON A LOT OF PRELIMINARY PLATS AND SPECIFICALLY LOT SPLITS, NOT NECESSARILY LARGE DEVELOPMENTS, BUT YOU'LL SEE THOSE COME THROUGH.

PLANNING COMMISSION WE HAVE A FEW INCOMPLETE APPLICATIONS THAT PEOPLE ARE WORKING ON.

SO THROUGH THE END OF THE YEAR, I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE A COMMON APPLICATION YOU'LL BE SEEING COMING UP THROUGH COUNCIL AND THEN IN OTHER NEWS WE ACCEPTED A RESIGNATION WITH OUR CITY PLANNER, SO WE'LL BE POSTING THAT AND COLLECTING APPLICATIONS AND DOING INTERVIEWS HERE HOPEFULLY IN THIS NEXT COUPLE MONTHS.

SO SAD TO SEE HER LEAVE.

SHE WAS A GREAT ADDITION TO A TEAM AND WE WISH HER ALL THE BEST OF LUCK.

AWESOME. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR LAURA? ALL RIGHT. THANKS.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THAT WILL BRING US TO OUR PUBLIC SAFETY REPORT.

[Public Safety Report]

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

THERE YOU ARE. I WAS LOOKING FOR CHIEF FARNIOK OVER THERE.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

SO WE'VE GOT OUR UPDATE.

AS ADAM PULLS IT UP YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

NOT MUCH HAS CHANGED ON THIS NEXT SLIDE HERE.

EVERYTHING IS STILL IN PLACE OR ON TRACK TO BE IN PLACE.

WE DO HAVE OBVIOUSLY, THE RENTAL TANKER HERE.

I WORKED ON GETTING AN UPDATE TODAY.

THE TANKER IS IN ITS FINAL STAGES OF BEING.

THE BOXES ARE IN ITS FINAL STAGES OF BEING PAINTED.

SHOULD BE SHIPPING OUT SOMETIME NEXT WEEK TO US AND THEN DOWN TO ROCHESTER, AND THEY ASSEMBLE IT DOWN THERE.

I HAVEN'T GOTTEN A FIRM SHIP DATE FROM THEM DOWN THERE, BUT PROBABLY MORE THAN LIKELY SOMETIME INTO SEPTEMBER IS WHEN WE'LL SEE THAT ONE.

ONCE THEY GET IT ALL PUT TOGETHER AND BROUGHT UP TO US SO WE CAN DO SOME TRAINING.

SO WE WILL HAVE ANOTHER MONTH'S RENTAL ON THE TANKER WITH LINO LAKES.

SO OTHER THAN THAT, UPDATE ON OUR BRUSH MEDICAL TRUCK THAT'S COMING LATER THIS YEAR.

IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE MORE LIKE THE DECEMBER JANUARY TIME FRAME RATHER THAN THE OCTOBER OR NOVEMBER THAT THEY HAD PROMISED.

AT LEAST THAT WAS THE UPDATE SO FAR THAT I'VE RECEIVED FOR THAT ONE.

SO YOU FLIP TO THE NEXT ONE.

WE WERE OUT ON NATIONAL NIGHT OUT.

THANK YOU TO CORREY AND THE PD FOR LETTING US CRASH AND HELP THEIR PARTY.

SO WE WERE ON CARMEN STREET.

THAT'S THE ONE TO THE RIGHT THERE AND THEN WE WERE ON SPRUCE STREET ON THE LEFT, AND WE WENT TO ABOUT THREE OTHERS, CHERRY AND PARK AND I CAN'T REMEMBER.

CASCO WAS ANOTHER ONE THAT WOULD END UP GETTING CANCELED.

BUT WE DID GO DOWN TO CASCO PARK AND THERE WERE A COUPLE OF NEIGHBORS THAT CAME OUT AND PLAYED ON THE TRUCK AND STUFF WITH US.

SO THAT WAS A GREAT TIME.

SO THANK YOU AGAIN.

SO WE'LL GO TO THE NEXT ONE.

KIND OF SOME UPDATES ON THE REMODEL.

WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT.

THE ONE IN THE UPPER LEFT CORNER, THAT'S THE GEAR LOCKERS AT THE WHAT WE CALL THE STABLES.

WHICH IS THE GARAGE DOWN AT THE NAVARRE PLANT.

THEY NICKNAMED IT THE STABLES BECAUSE IT LOOKS KIND OF LIKE A RED BARN.

SO THAT WAS KIND OF NICE AND FUN.

SO WE'VE GOT THAT DONE AND COMPLETE DOWN THERE AND THEN THE OTHER THREE ARE OVER AT THE OLD PUBLIC WORKS TO THE FAR UPPER RIGHT.

THAT WAS THE OLD WATER AND SEWER KIND OF ROOM.

WE'VE PAINTED THE CABINETS AND DONE SOME PAINTING IN THERE AND THEN BELOW WE ADDED THE DOOR TO THE GEAR LOCKER AREA THERE.

SO IT'S AN EXTERNAL SERVICE DOOR OUT TO THE PARKING LOT FOR THE FIREFIGHTERS TO COME IN.

THAT'S PRETTY MUCH COMPLETE.

WE'VE GOT TO DO SOME GRADING, THAT TYPE OF STUFF ON THE OUTSIDE OF THAT PART OF THAT BUILDING.

REDID THE FLOORS, HUNG THE LOCKERS, AND THEN THE LOWER LEFT.

HERE IS KIND OF OUR LAUNDRY ROOM CLEANING AREA.

THAT'S ALL SET UP.

WE'RE WORKING ON GETTING THE PLUMBER TO COMPLETE THE TURNOUT GEAR WASHING MACHINE INSTALL, SO THEY HAVE TO BRING IN A LITTLE BIT OF A CRANE AND STUFF TO LIFT THAT UP WHEN THEY GET IT SET.

SO IT'S A PRETTY HEAVY PIECE OF MACHINERY, I THINK.

ALL IN ALL, IT WAS ABOUT 1,000 POUNDS, SO YEAH, QUITE HEAVY.

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SO THAT'S AN UPDATE ON THE REMODEL.

I'VE GOT AN UPDATE KIND OF ON OUR FIRST 30 DAYS OR SO OF RESPONSE IF YOU WANT TO FLIP TO THE NEXT ONE.

SO THE EMERGENCY CALLS FROM JULY 1ST TO AUGUST 5TH WE HAD 26 CALLS FOR SERVICE.

THE BREAKDOWN BETWEEN WHO RESPONDED TO THEM WERE 22 CALLS FOR THE DUTY CREW, TWO CALLS FOR THE DUTY OFFICER, AND THEN TWO ALL CALLS WERE IN THOSE, ALL 26 OF THOSE 26 CALLS, WE ARRIVED ON SCENE FOR 19 OF THOSE CALLS WERE IN SERVICE FOR 22. NOW, OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS A PRETTY SMALL SET OF DATA TO KIND OF COMPARE WHAT WE WERE HOPING FOR IN OUR GOALS.

SO I'M VERY PLEASED WITH KIND OF THE FIRST 30 DAYS OF WHERE WE'RE AT.

WITH OUR RESPONSE.

OUR GOAL FOR AN IN-SERVICE TIME WAS 60S FOR A MEDICAL 80S FOR FIRE CALLS AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS IT'S BASICALLY WHEN WE GET PAGE THAT WE'RE ACKNOWLEDGE THE CALL.

WE'RE STARTING TO MOVE TOWARDS THE TRUCK, GET IN THE TRUCK, THAT TYPE OF STUFF.

SO THAT'S WHEN WE CHECK INTO SERVICE.

WE ARE FOR MEDICALS.

WE'RE AT 99 SECONDS IS WHAT WE AVERAGE AND THEN FOR FIRE CALLS IT'S 117.

SO A LITTLE BIT OVER THE TIME.

SO WE'RE WORKING ON TRYING TO GET OUR GEAR SET UP A LITTLE BIT QUICKER FOR THE DUTY CREWS.

THAT TYPE OF STUFF. THERE'S SOME TIPS THAT OUR DEPUTY CHIEF HAS KIND OF WORKED WITH TRAINING AND STUFF.

HIM BEING A PREVIOUS FULL TIME FIREFIGHTER AND HELPING US GET OUT THE DOOR A LITTLE BIT QUICKER THAN WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING AND THEN ON OUR RESPONSE TIMES.

REMEMBER BACK WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS, WE PASSED KIND OF THE SUBURBAN RESPONSE ZONE FOR NFPA 1720? FOR THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW WHAT NFPA IS, THE NATIONAL FIRE PROTECTION ADMINISTRATION 1720 IS A GUIDELINE FOR HAVING CREWS AT THE STATIONS AND HOW QUICKLY YOU CAN GET TRUCKS ON SCENE AND WHICH IS THE SUBURBAN ZONE WAS TEN MINUTES AND 80% OF THE TIME OR LESS.

OR 80%, TEN MINUTES OR LESS 80% OF THE TIME, SORRY.

WE'RE A LITTLE BIT OVER THAT FOR OUR FIRST MONTH, SO WE'RE GOING TO WORK ON GETTING BETTER.

WE'RE AT 1057 80% OR LESS 80% OF THE TIME.

SO WE DO HAVE SOME WORK AHEAD OF US TO KIND OF IMPROVE THOSE TIMES.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALWAYS LITTLE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO WITH ALL OF OUR CREWS, AND WE'LL BE WORKING TO GET BETTER WITH THOSE.

BUT OVERALL FOR THE FIRST 30 SOME DAYS.

I'M VERY PLEASED WITH WHERE WE'RE AT AND HOW WE'RE DOING, SO IT CAN ONLY GET BETTER FROM HERE.

SO THANK YOU.

THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAVE.

BUT ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANYBODY ELSE? I'M WAITING FOR CHIEF.

WE'RE KIND OF OPERATING AT A URBAN RESPONSE TIME.

PRIOR TO US TAKING THE TERRITORY OVER, WASN'T THAT WHAT WE WERE FINDING? IT WAS. IT WAS A RURAL RESPONSE.

TIME IS WHAT WE KIND OF IDENTIFIED.

YES. CORRECT AND THEN WHAT? WHAT KIND OF TIME? I'D HAVE TO. TEN MINUTES WITH SUBURBAN.

WHAT IS IT FOR? THE I BELIEVE THE RURAL WAS, LIKE 14 MINUTES 80% OF THE TIME OR LESS.

YEAH, WE'RE MAKING A NICE IMPROVEMENT OVER OVER THAT STANDARD.

YES. CORRECT. REALLY GOOD.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANKS.

I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS.

WHAT IS OUR ARRANGEMENT FOR MUTUAL AID? WHAT IS OUR ARRANGEMENT FOR MUTUAL AID? WHAT? CITIES PROVIDE US MUTUAL AID.

WHAT CITIES DO WE PROVIDE MUTUAL AID TO? HOW DOES THAT WORK? SURE, ABSOLUTELY.

SO WE ARE PART OF THE HENNEPIN COUNTY FIRE CHIEFS ASSOCIATION, WHICH IS A MUTUAL AID AGREEMENT BETWEEN ALL THE COUNTY FIRE DEPARTMENT, ALL THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS IN HENNEPIN COUNTY. SO WE, IN ESSENCE, HAVE MUTUAL AID AGREEMENTS WITH EACH OF THE DIFFERENT COUNTY OR FIRE DEPARTMENTS WITHIN HENNEPIN COUNTY.

SPECIFICALLY, WE HAVE BOX ALARMS PUT TOGETHER FOR BOTH ZONES, AND WE HAVE AGREEMENTS WITH THOSE FIRE DEPARTMENTS IN THOSE ZONES ALSO.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHO HAS US ON THEIR CURRENT MUTUAL AID SYSTEM OR BOX ALARM SYSTEM.

I DIDN'T ASK THAT QUESTION SO.

WE DON'T KNOW AS A CITY WHO WHAT OTHER CITIES WILL RESPOND TO US IN A MUTUAL AID SITUATION? NO THAT'S INCORRECT. WE ABSOLUTELY DO.

OKAY. WHO ARE THEY? IT'S ALL IN OUR BOX. ALARMS. I CAN GET YOU THAT. I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION.

I'D LIKE TO KNOW THAT I'D LIKE TO HAVE IT.

MAYBE AT THE NEXT UPDATE.

HAVE WE HAD ANY MUTUAL AID CALLS.

WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY MUTUAL AID CALLS.

NO. OKAY. HAVE WE PROVIDED ANY MUTUAL AID TO OTHER CITIES? NO WE'VE NOT BEEN CALLED FOR ANY OTHER CITIES.

HOW MANY CITIES? I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU'D SAY IT ARE PUTTING US ON THEIR BOX CALL SYSTEMS AROUND THE AREA.

I DO NOT KNOW. YOU DON'T KNOW? NO. THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO KNOW AS WELL AND THE NEXT UPDATE.

AGAIN, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW WHERE OUR RESOURCES MAY HAVE TO GO IN A LARGE INCIDENT AND IF THEY'RE GOING SOMEWHERE ELSE, THEY'RE NOT HERE.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT.

THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD IS ABOUT SCHOOLS.

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SO WHEN PEOPLE ASK ME QUESTIONS ABOUT WHERE WE RESPOND, I LET THEM KNOW THE TWO AREAS THAT WE RESPOND TO.

YES. SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY COMMUNICATIONS PER SE WITH THE SCHOOL AROUND THIS NEW DEPARTMENT.

I HAVE NOT SPECIFICALLY TALKED TO DOCTOR FLEISCHER OVER THERE ABOUT IT, BUT THEY DO KNOW OF THE SITUATION.

ABSOLUTELY AND KNOW WHO RESPONDS TO THEIR AREA AND WHO DOES NOT RESPOND TO THEIR AREA.

YES. SO IS LONG LAKE, CURRENTLY THE ONLY FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT WILL SERVICE THE SCHOOL? I BELIEVE THERE.

WELL, I MEAN, UNLESS THEY HAVE SOMETHING BIGGER WHERE THEY NEED MUTUAL AID.

OKAY AND WOULD WE PROVIDE MUTUAL AID TO THE CITY OF LONG LAKE IF THERE WAS AN INCIDENT AT THE SCHOOL? I DON'T THINK WE'RE ON THEIR BOX ALARMS. ALARMS? NO, WE ARE NOT ON THEIR BOX ALARM.

NOT THAT I KNOW OF.

I JUST HAVE TWO OTHER QUESTIONS AND THESE ARE QUESTIONS THAT ARE ASKED TO ME BY RESIDENTS.

SO I WANTED TO BRING THEM UP IN THE PUBLIC SAFETY REPORT.

WHERE ARE OUR DUTY CREWS OPERATING OUT OF WHEN THEY WOULD GO TO A CALL.

THEY OPERATE OUT OF THE CITY OF ORONO SO THEY CAN BE ANYWHERE WITHIN THE CITY.

WE DO HAVE SOME SURROUNDING AREAS THAT WE'VE ALLOWED THEM TO GO TO GET LUNCH, THAT TYPE OF STUFF.

SO THEY COULD BE RIGHT NEXT DOOR, OR THEY COULD BE A LITTLE BIT FARTHER AWAY.

SO THEY'RE KIND OF MOBILE SOMETIMES, SO IT JUST DEPENDS.

SO IF THEY'RE AT SO THEY DON'T AND THE GARAGE IN NAVARRE THE AREA THAT'S BEEN REHABILITATED OR REMODELED FOR TRUCK VEHICLE STORAGE, THAT'S NOT A PLACE WHERE CREW WOULD BE BASED OUT OF.

IT WOULD BE CORRECT. WE DO HAVE CREWS THAT GO OUT OF THERE SOMETIMES, TOO.

YOU DO? OKAY. ABSOLUTELY.

OKAY. I GO THERE ALL THE TIME, AND I SEE HIM IN THERE.

YEAH. SUNDAY MORNING, I SAW YOU WERE PUTTING UP SOME SIGNS OVER BY WOLFINGTON WHEN WE WERE MEETING THERE.

YOU WERE THERE? YEAH, I SAW YOU.

SO HOW OFTEN ARE THE CREWS BEING WHEN THEY'RE CALLED? HOW OFTEN ARE THEY RESPONDING OUT OF THAT AREA VERSUS THIS AREA, AND I DON'T HAVE THAT DATA SET.

I'M SORRY.

ONLY OTHER QUESTION I'VE BEEN ASKED IS WHAT HAS BEEN YOUR LONGEST RESPONSE TIME AND CAN YOU EXPLAIN IT? AND I DON'T KNOW, I HAVEN'T SEEN THE RESPONSE TIMES.

I DON'T THINK WE SAW A SLIDE ON THAT TONIGHT.

SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THE RESPONSE TIMES ARE GOING.

I KNOW THAT WE'VE BEEN MAKING SOME GOOD ONES HERE, BUT I'M WONDERING IF THERE ARE OUTLIERS, WHAT THEY ARE AND WHAT WAS INVOLVED IN THOSE.

I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME, BUT I CAN GET YOU THAT.

THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE STATISTICS MAYBE, OR DATA AT THE NEXT UPDATE ABOUT CALL TIMES.

THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL AS WELL AS IF THERE'S BEEN ANY OUTLIERS.

WHAT DO YOU MEAN ABOUT CALL TIMES WHERE RESPONSE TIMES.

RESPONSE TIMES. BECAUSE WE'RE SEEING IT IN SERVICE TIME OF 60S FOR MEDICALS AND 80S FOR FIRE, BUT WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING WHERE THE OUTLIERS ARE, WHAT THESE SCENARIOS ARE LIKE. THIS IS VERY NEW AND I'D LIKE TO SEE JUST MORE DETAIL IN THE NEXT UPDATE.

THAT'D BE HELPFUL. OKAY. YEAH, THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM.

WE DID GIVE ALL OF THAT INFORMATION IN THE LAST COUPLE OF TIMES WHERE WE'VE SHOWN KIND OF IN ROUTE TIMES AND ON SCENE TIMES.

SO YEAH, WE CAN PULL THAT.

WOULD IT BE HELPFUL TO GET LONG LINKS SO YOU HAVE A COMPARABLE.

I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO HAVE ONE FOR THE DEPARTMENT THAT WE'RE STARTING.

THAT'S WHAT I'M INTERESTED IN.

SO FOR THE ORONO FIRE DEPARTMENT A SPECIFIC EXAMPLE OF IF THERE ARE ANY CALL TIMES THAT HAVE BEEN LONGER OR THE LONGEST, BECAUSE ON AGAIN, ON A CONTINUUM, I WANT TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE'RE DOING IN TERMS OF THESE PUBLIC SAFETY OF THE SERVICE.

TYPICALLY WHEN WE TALK ABOUT STATISTICS, WE KICK OUT THE REALLY OUTLIERS.

I MEAN, THAT'S JUST KIND OF STATISTICALLY WHAT HAPPENS.

THE PROGRAM DOES IT ITSELF.

IF THERE ANYTHING TO LEARN FROM WHAT WE'RE DOING, GIVEN THAT THIS IS VERY NEW, THAT'S WHAT I'M INTERESTED IN SEEING.

ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

BUT I THINK TO MARIA'S POINT, I THINK THAT'D BE A GOOD IDEA IS TO HAVE THE SAME INFORMATION FROM LONG LAKE AND JUST KIND OF PUT THEM NEXT TO EACH OTHER AS WELL, JUST TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON, BECAUSE THEY BECAUSE THAT'S THEIR SERVICE IN OUR CITY AS WELL.

YEAH. IF THEY'RE WILLING TO PROVIDE THAT, I GUESS.

ADAM, WOULD YOU LOOK TO REQUEST THAT WE USED TO GET IT, BUT YEAH, IT MIGHT BE GOOD TO ALSO IF WE'RE GOING TO DO A COMPARISON IS TO ALSO LOOK AT THE RESPONSE TIMES YEAR OVER YEAR OUT OF STATION NUMBER TWO FROM LAST YEAR COMPARED TO WHERE WE'RE AT NOW, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S REALLY A GOOD IDEA TO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, WHERE ARE OUR LONGEST RESPONSES AND OUR QUICK ONES? WE'RE GETTING A SENSE OF THE AVERAGE.

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BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO DEFINE WHAT OUR BENCHMARK IS AND WHAT OUR BENCHMARK HONESTLY SHOULD BE IS WHAT IT WAS PRIOR TO US TAKING IT OVER. SO WE CAN COMPARE OURSELVES AGAINST? WHAT WAS OCCURRING THERE? THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. I DON'T THINK I DISAGREE.

I DON'T THINK THAT SHOULD BE OUR BENCHMARK.

WE HAVE A DIFFERENT SERVICE MODEL.

WE SHOULD EXPECT HIGHER.

WELL, HAVE HIGHER STANDARDS.

BUT I DO THINK WE SHOULD HAVE THAT NUMBER.

I THINK WE SHOULD BENCHMARK IT.

SORRY TO INTERRUPT. WE SHOULD BENCHMARK IT TO THE STANDARDS AND GUIDELINES THAT ARE NATIONAL STANDARDS AND GUIDELINES, WHICH IS KIND OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

I THINK I'LL CHANGE MAYBE THE TERM.

RIGHT. IT'S JUST THAT GIVES US A BASIS TO COMPARE WHERE WE'RE AT NOW VERSUS WHERE WE WERE AND THEN WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE THE NFPA GUIDELINE OF, YOU KNOW, USING THE PROPER, YOU KNOW, SUBURBAN RESPONSE TIMES INSTEAD OF THE RURAL DISTRICT WHICH WHICH WAS BEING USED BEFORE.

SO WE WANT TO SHOW THAT BECAUSE I THINK WHAT I WOULDN'T WANT OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT TO BE CRITICIZED FOR IS ANYTHING OTHER THAN WHAT OUR RESPONSE WAS.

AND ARE WE? ARE WE? IS OUR RESPONSE TIMES GETTING BETTER THAN WHAT THEY WERE OR ARE THEY NOT? THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT ONE.

SO THAT THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS THAT THE MODEL THAT WE ARE DOING IS ACTUALLY PROVIDING A LEVEL OF RESPONSIVENESS THAT THEY HADN'T HAD BEFORE AND THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR THEM TO SEE AND I KNOW IT'S NOT PUBLIC.

COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNSON, [INAUDIBLE].

SO WE WERE THE YOU'RE SAYING IN THE LONG LAKE DUTY CRUISE? [INAUDIBLE]. SO LONG LAKE HAS A VOLUNTEER DUTY CREW.

SO IT IS DIFFERENT MODEL STILL.

RIGHT AND THE EXPECTATIONS AND THEIR GOALS AND BENCHMARKS ARE DIFFERENT.

SO THE GOALS OF THE VOLUNTEER DUTY CREW ARE DIFFERENT THAN THE GOALS OF ORONO DUTY CREW STAFFED.

AS FAR AS HOW THEY'VE LAID IT OUT TO DATE, I DO THINK IT'S GOING TO BE HARD, JAMES, AND TO DO AN AVERAGE WHEN YOU ONLY HAVE 22 CALLS IS GOING TO BE VERY DIFFERENT. YEAH AND THEN ONE OUTLIER.

STANDARDS DON'T REALLY TALK ABOUT AVERAGE.

THEY TALK ABOUT PERCENTILES AND THAT'S WHAT IT SHOULD BE.

HOW MANY OF THE 22 CALLS THAT WEREN'T CANCELED.

WHAT PERCENT OF THEM HIT OUR GOAL? AND I KNOW PER I THINK LONG LAKE'S LAST REPORT, THEIR STATION ONE IN SERVICE TIMES AVERAGED WERE 5.9 MINUTES AND 7.4 FOR STATION TWO LAST MONTH. SO AS A POINT OF REFERENCE, IF THAT'S HELPFUL FOR YOU, JUST TO COMPARE WHAT WE ARE GETTING RIGHT NOW FOR STATION TWO AND STATION ONE AND SO WHERE IS THIS INFORMATION? WHERE IS THIS CALL TIME INFORMATION BEING PRESENTED? YOU HAVE TO REQUEST IT FROM LONG LAKE AND FOR OUR CITY.

WHERE DO WE FIND THE INFORMATION ON CALL TIMES FOR CITY OF ORONO FIRE DEPARTMENT.

SO WE CAN REQUEST IT.

I THINK THAT WOULD JUST BE HELPFUL TO HAVE IF WE'RE HAVING PUBLIC SAFETY UPDATES, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE NATURE OF THIS DEPARTMENT BEING SO NEW, I THINK THAT SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE UPDATES. I KNOW I WOULD FIND IT HELPFUL.

WILL YOU JUST REQUEST IT SO THAT WAS A REQUEST? I MEAN, WE'VE ONLY BEEN DOING THIS FOR THE LAST 30 DAYS, SO IF YOU WANT INFORMATION INCLUDED IN UPDATES, WE ABSOLUTELY CAN DO THAT AND WE HAVE BEEN GIVING IN-SERVICE TIMES AND ALSO ON SCENE TIMES IN MY PREVIOUS UPDATES.

THIS ONE WAS JUST TO COMPILE THE DATA COMPARE.

WE WERE TO OUR GOALS FOR THOSE 26 CALLS THAT WE DID IN THE LAST 33 OR 34 DAYS, OR WHATEVER THAT ENDS UP BEING.

RIGHT? NOW I UNDERSTAND AND IN THOSE 26 CALLS, YOU DON'T HAVE A SENSE FOR WHAT YOUR LONGEST RESPONSE WAS.

YOU DON'T HAVE A SENSE IN TERMS OF A NUMBER OF MINUTES.

I DIDN'T LOOK AT THAT.

I WAS JUST LOOKING AT WHAT OUR GOALS WERE AND HOW WE COMPARED TO OUR GOALS.

OKAY. BRING THAT INFORMATION.

OKAY. SOUNDS GOOD. THANK YOU.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IF WE'VE EVER DONE THAT PRACTICE, I KIND OF HESITATE BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO MICROMANAGE OR LOOK AT THAT.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT OUR ROLE IS OR WHAT THE POINT OF LOOKING AT CALL BY CALL AND SAYING, BREAK IT DOWN AND TELL ME THAT OUR ROLE ON COUNCIL AS FAR AS DICTATING THAT.

CAN YOU ELABORATE PRESENTING EVERY TIME BEFORE THIS? WHY WOULDN'T IT BE UP THERE TONIGHT AS AN AVERAGE BRAD? ABSOLUTELY, YES.

I'M ASKING WHY WE WOULD DO A CALL BY CALL AND ASKING WHY WE WERE SLOWER ON THAT ONE CALL.

I'M JUST WONDERING, BECAUSE I WOULD NEVER DO THAT TO COREY AND HIS TEAM.

I'M SORRY, I JUST WOULDN'T I WOULD NEVER DO THAT TO PUBLIC WORKS AND I'M WONDERING IF THIS IS A SUSTAINABLE APPROACH THAT YOU'RE GOING TO APPLY TO EVERY CATEGORY IN THE CITY.

I DON'T WANT TO GET BACK AND FORTH IN A SITUATION.

I'M ASKING A QUESTION ABOUT RESPONSE TIMES.

GIVEN THAT THIS IS BRAND NEW, AND THE GOAL IS TO UNDERSTAND THAT IF THERE ARE ANY PARTS OF THIS NEW PLAN OR

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I'D LIKE TO KNOW ABOUT THAT.

IT'S NOT TO MICROMANAGE.

IT'S TO UNDERSTAND, GIVEN THAT WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS, THAT WE UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON AND IF THERE ARE ANY ISSUES OR SITUATIONS THAT I LOOKING AT DATA MAY HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT, I'D LIKE TO KNOW, ARE YOU AWARE OF AN ISSUE? I AM NOT AWARE OF AN ISSUE.

I'M ASKING THAT WE'VE HAD 26 CALLS IN A LITTLE OVER A MONTH, AND I'D LIKE TO KNOW.

I ASKED GENERALLY LAST TIME, I THINK, DO YOU SEE ANY VULNERABILITIES? I'M LOOKING FOR OUTLIERS.

I'M LOOKING FOR ANYTHING ABOUT THIS PROGRAM THAT MAY BE CAUSE FOR DOING THINGS DIFFERENTLY.

REEVALUATING. THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR ME TO KNOW WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR COMMUNITY, AND I JUST FIND THAT I LIKE TO ASK QUESTIONS, AND I LIKE TO FEEL INFORMED AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING, WHETHER IT'S MUTUAL AID, WHICH I ASKED ABOUT A MOMENT AGO OR THIS.

I WANT TO KNOW ABOUT IT.

THAT'S JUST ME. I DON'T I'M NOT INTERESTED IN GETTING A DEBATE.

I'VE ASKED FOR THE INFORMATION.

IF WE AS A COUNCIL DECIDE THAT WE DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT IT'S NOT BAD TO ASK QUESTIONS.

BUT I THINK AS WE DIVE INTO THIS, WE'RE COVERING YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE WHOLE CITY OF ORONO THOSE QUESTIONS, IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE ASKED FROM ORONO CALLS THAT ARE OUTLIERS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, THE SAME THING SHOULD BE ASKED OF LONG LAKE.

WE ASKED THAT OF LONG LAKE.

IN ALL THESE YEARS OF FIRE ADVISORY BOARD MEETINGS, WE HAVEN'T YET.

OKAY. SO BEING, YOU KNOW, BEING IN THE FIRE SERVICE, THEY TEND TO LOOK AT AVERAGES AND RESPONSE TIMES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, BECAUSE THERE'S ALWAYS AN OUTLIER TYPE OF CALL THAT TENDS TO BE A BETTER WAY TO DO IT, I THINK.

I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR YOU, BUT WHAT MATT WAS TALKING ABOUT EARLIER IS JUST SHOWING THINGS OF IMPROVEMENT THAT WE CAN LOOK AT AND KIND OF COMPARE TO HOW THINGS WERE DONE BEFORE.

IT'S, YOU KNOW, IN THE STATION TO CALL AREA SAYING, ARE WE IMPROVING ON THESE RESPONSE TIMES? ARE WE GETTING OUT THE DOOR QUICKER? ARE WE GETTING ON SCENE QUICKER? THESE ARE MEASURABLE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO NOW.

IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT TO DO AFTER ONE MONTH, YOU KNOW, BUT OVER TIME, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN LOOK AT.

AND IF WE HAVE A DIFFERENT MODEL NOW, IS IT WORKING BETTER? YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SO IT'S NOT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE CHANGED THE MODEL IS THIS IMPROVING OUR SITUATION AND I THINK I WOULD AS A COUNCIL, I THINK WE NEED TO ALSO BE RESPECTFUL OF GETTING INTO THE COMPLETE MINUTIA LIKE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

I WOULD PUT IT TO THE FIRE CHIEF WORKING WITH ADAM.

CAN YOU? WE'RE HAVING A COUNCIL MEETING.

OKAY. NOW, CAN YOU JUST, LIKE, TONE IT DOWN AND SIT.

HAVE OUR FIRE CHIEF AND OUR CITY ADMINISTRATOR WORK ON WHAT'S THE BEST? OH MY GOD.

DO I GET TO TALK? THIS IS OUR COUNCIL MEETING.

REMEMBER THAT. OKAY.

HAVE OUR FIRE CHIEF AND OUR CITY ADMINISTRATOR WORK ON WHAT IS THE BEST INFORMATION TO PRESENT TO US? THAT'S A STANDARD KIND OF INFORMATION TO PRESENT TO US.

IF A SPECIFIC COUNCIL MEMBER WANTS TO GET SPECIFIC OTHER INFORMATION THAT THEY WANT TO HAVE, THEN YOU ARE FREE TO CALL UP ADAM, WHO IS THE CITY ADMINISTRATOR, WHO THE CHIEF REPORTS TO, AND ASK FOR SOME SPECIFIC INFORMATION IF YOU'D LIKE.

I KNOW YOU'RE NOT SHY ABOUT DOING THAT, SO THAT'S HOW THAT WOULD BE, THAT APPROACH.

YEAH, BUT THAT'S WHERE I WOULD LAY IT ON THE HANDS OF OUR TWO PROFESSIONALS HERE TO GIVE US WHAT SHOULD BE GIVEN TO US SO WE UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON.

RIGHT AND THEN, YOU KNOW, PREPARE.

YOU CAN LET THEM KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, PRIOR TO A MEETING SO THEY CAN AWAKEN, STAFF MEMBERS CAN COME PREPARED TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS IN THE MEETING INSTEAD OF DURING THEM.

IS THE OTHER OPPORTUNITY THERE? SO UNLESS THERE'S OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE CHIEF AT THIS POINT, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO THANK YOU. THANKS FOR THE GOOD JOB.

THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

I'D BE I WILL BE REACHING OUT WITH FURTHER QUESTIONS AND GIVING YOU MY FEEDBACK FOR THE NEXT PRESENTATION, IF YOU CHOOSE TO USE IT.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

WELL, THAT WILL MOVE US ON TO OUR CITY ATTORNEY REPORT.

[Attorney Report]

MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. I DON'T HAVE ANY UPDATES OTHER THAN TO SAY THAT IN AT YOUR NEXT MEETING.

I DO PLAN ON BRINGING A COUPLE UPDATES FORWARD, AND THEY MAY BE IN CLOSED SESSION.

I'LL WORK WITH ADAM ON THAT.

SO WITH THAT, I'D STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS IF THERE ARE ANY.

AT THIS POINT I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.

OKAY. I WOULD LIKE TO BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT WHAT CONSTITUTES OPEN MEETING LAW VIOLATION AS IT RELATES TO EMAILS, WHICH I GET FROM RESIDENTS.

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IN TERMS OF THE REPLY ALL.

I WOULD LIKE YOU TO CLARIFY THAT.

SO A REPLY ALL IS NOT A PER SE VIOLATION OF THE OPEN MEETING LAW.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF SOMEONE SENDS AN EMAIL TO THE FULL COUNCIL AND SOMEONE RESPONDS TO IT, CERTAINLY ONE AT A TIME WHERE THE REST OF THE COUNCIL ISN'T INVOLVED, THERE'S NO OPEN MEETING LAW IMPLICATIONS IN MY OPINION.

A REPLY ALL WHILE I WOULD SAY BEST PRACTICE IS NOT TO DO IT TO THE EXTENT IT'S DONE.

ONCE YOU'VE GOT A SINGULAR RESPONSE AND THE REST OF THE COUNCIL HASN'T BEEN ENGAGED, SO THE FULL COUNCIL HAS SEEN A SINGULAR RESPONSE BUT HAS NOT ENGAGED ON IT.

THE CONCERN WITH A REPLY ALL, OF COURSE, IS THAT IF ONE COUNCIL MEMBER SEES SOMEONE ELSE ENGAGING, DOES IT LEAD TO ANOTHER DISCUSSION? SO A SINGULAR REPLY ALL WILL NOT BE A VIOLATION OF THE OPEN MEETING LAW IN MY OPINION.

NOW IT DEPENDS ON THE REST OF THE THREAD OF COURSE, BUT SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF ADAM SENDS OUT AN UPDATE, SOMEONE REPLIES ALL THAT IN AND OF ITSELF ISN'T A VIOLATION IN MY OPINION.

IT IS THE IF THE REST OF THE FOLKS DO THE REPLY ALL AT SOME POINT, IT CAN RESULT IN A DISCUSSION.

IF YOU'RE ASKING FOR A REPLY AND ASKING FOR A DISCUSSION OBVIOUSLY IS A AND EVEN BENIGN THINGS.

IF ADAM SENDS OUT A HERE'S YOUR MOST RECENT FIRE CALL THING, AND IF RICHARD SAYS, HEY, BY THE WAY, I NOTICED YOU DIDN'T ADD THIS AND THEN THAT'S A REPLY ALL AND THEN MARIA ADDS A REPLY ALL.

HEY, BYE. GOOD POINT.

I'D LIKE THIS THAT WE CAN'T DO.

WE CAN'T HAVE A VIRTUAL DISCUSSION ON THOSE SORTS OF ITEMS. SO I WOULD ALWAYS CAUTION ON THE REPLY.

ALL MY STANDARD ADVICE IS IF I COULD, I WOULD REMOVE REPLY ALL BUTTONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS COMPUTERS.

BUT A SINGULAR REPLY ALL AGAIN DEPENDING ON WHERE THE THREAD STARTS.

COUNCIL MEMBER BENSON IN AND OF ITSELF DOES NOT VIOLATE THE OPEN MEETING LAW.

OKAY. THANK YOU. I HAD ANOTHER QUESTION.

COUNCIL WAS GIVEN VERY HELPFUL INFORMATION LAST WEEK BY YOU THROUGH CITY ADMINISTRATOR ABOUT STATE STATUTES INVOLVING CAMPAIGNING ISSUES AND I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY A COUPLE OF THINGS. CAN YOU JUST EXPLAIN WHERE THE VIOLATION OCCURS IF A IF A MEMBER OF COUNCIL IS SPEAKING ABOUT A CAMPAIGN FROM THE DAIS? IS THERE ANY MORE RECOMMENDATIONS YOU CAN GIVE ON THAT DURING ELECTION SEASON? YEAH, DURING THE ELECTION SEASON, RIGHT NOW WE ARE USING AND CONSUMING PUBLIC FUNDS AND DOLLARS AND SO THE IDEA IS CERTAINLY AS CANDIDATES. WELL, I DON'T KNOW THIS, BUT THERE'S BEEN DOOR KNOCKING OR CAMPAIGNING.

WHAT YOU DO ON YOUR OWN TIME IS YOUR BUSINESS.

WHAT YOU DO FROM THE DAIS DOES HAVE SOME RULES AND RESTRICTIONS.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, TO DO ENDORSEMENTS OR SUGGEST THAT YOU ARE TO USE THIS PLATFORM TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO VOTE FOR A CERTAIN CANDIDATE.

IN MY OPINION, IS OFF LIMITS.

OKAY. THANK YOU AND THAT INCLUDES.

I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT, I APOLOGIZE, BUT THAT'S NOT ONLY FOR A CITY COUNCIL LEVEL, BUT THAT IS FOR A STATE OR NATIONAL LEVEL.

RIGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU.

TWO OTHER QUESTIONS.

WHAT LATITUDE DO COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE WITHIN THEIR MAYOR COUNCIL REPORT? IS THAT SIMILARLY TO NOT BE DISCUSSING CAMPAIGN RELATED ISSUES OR.

RIGHT. ELECTION RELATED ISSUES, WHETHER IT BE LOCAL, STATE IT'S HARD TO SAY ELECTION ISSUES BECAUSE JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING BECOMES AN ELECTION ISSUE.

SO WHAT I WOULD SAY IS IT'S MORE OR LESS ENDORSEMENTS.

SO IF YOU TALK ABOUT THE CANDIDATE IN PARTICULAR, BUT ISSUES IN GENERAL, I MEAN, THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO EACH OF YOU INDIVIDUALLY THAT I THINK TOPICALLY YOU CAN CERTAINLY DISCUSS IF YOU'RE PASSIONATE ABOUT THE LAND, IF AVERAGE LAKESHORE SETBACKS, IF THAT BECOMES AN ELECTION ISSUE, IT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING YOU GUYS CAN DISCUSS UP HERE ALL YOU WANT. THAT IS POLICY MAKING IN ITS TRUEST FORM IN MY OPINION.

SO IT'S NOT AN ISSUE PRECLUSION.

IT'S A CANDIDATE ISSUE.

SO MENTIONING PEOPLE BY NAMES OR OTHER PEOPLE RUNNING OR WHATNOT IS WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO STAY AWAY FROM.

THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY AND THE FINAL QUESTION IS WHERE SHOULD RESIDENTS REPORT CONCERNS IF THEY HAVE THEM ABOUT CAMPAIGN VIOLATIONS OR POSSIBLE VIOLATIONS? I BELIEVE I DON'T HAVE THAT LIST BEFORE ME.

I BELIEVE THAT THE IF YOU HAVE A CONCERN, YOU CAN START WITH ADAM OR THE CITY CLERK AND THEY CAN PROVIDE YOU THE RESOURCES.

WHAT I WOULD MAKE CLEAR IS THAT IN MY CAPACITY AS A CITY ATTORNEY, I CERTAINLY WANT TO HELP THIS GROUP STAY CLEAR OF ANY VIOLATIONS OF IT.

BUT I AM ALSO NOT NECESSARILY HERE TO HELP CITIZENS FILE A COMPLAINT AGAINST ONE OF YOU.

BUT WE CAN PROVIDE THEM THE RESOURCES SO THEY KNOW WHERE THEY CAN FILE THAT.

THAT'S A CERTAIN CUT AND PASTE AND MOST OF THOSE COMPLAINTS WOULD, WOULD IF THEY COME TO US, WE WILL BE REFERRING FOLKS TO THE SECRETARY OF STATE AND THOSE AGENCIES WHO HAVE THE RESOURCES TO.

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OKAY. I JUST LIKE WE HAD SOME ISSUES TODAY ON CAMPAIGN SIGNS.

YES AND THE ONE THING THAT I WOULD JUST LIKE TO BE VERY CLEAR IS THE CITY STAFF DOES NOT POLICE.

DISPUTES BETWEEN ELECTED OFFICIALS OR PEOPLE OUT THERE CAMPAIGNING.

WE CAN ENFORCE THE ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF ORONO, AND WE CAN HELP GET PEOPLE TO THE RIGHT RESOURCES, [INAUDIBLE].

VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR [INAUDIBLE]? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. THAT WILL BE TAKE US TO OUR CITY [INAUDIBLE] AND ENGINEER REPORT.

[City Administrator/Engineer Report]

WE ARE STILL FINISHING UP OUR STREETS PROJECTS THROUGH THE CITY STREETS PROJECTS.

I KNOW WE'VE GOTTEN SOME INPUT ON OTHER AGENCIES DOING PROJECTS IN OUR IN OUR CITY.

SO WE DO HAVE A LOT OF WORK GOING ON.

HENNEPIN COUNTY IS BUSY WORKING.

STILL ON 112 HERE.

THEY'RE KICKING OFF SOME CULVERT WORK ON COUNTY ROAD SIX JUST TO OUR NORTH, AND THEY'RE JUST FINISHING UP THE COUNTY ROAD 18 OR COUNTY ROAD 84.

SORRY. PROJECT WAS BAYSIDE, LEAF, FOX AND OLD CRYSTAL BAY CHANGES NAMES AS IT WINDS THROUGH OUR CITY AND THE METROPOLITAN COUNCIL STILL CONTINUES TO DIG ON NORTH SHORE AND SIFT AND SIFT.

SO NOT ON THAT ONE.

I KNOW WE'VE HAD A COUPLE INQUIRIES.

WHAT THEY'RE DOING RIGHT NOW IS AN EMERGENCY REPAIR PROJECT FOR ONE OF THEIR SEWER INTERCEPTORS AND WHAT DROVE THAT PROJECT WAS THEIR PREPARATIONS FOR, ACTUALLY A DELIBERATE REPLACEMENT OF OF THEIR MUCH LONGER SEGMENT OF THAT INTERCEPTOR, WHICH WILL EVENTUALLY GO BASICALLY ALONG THE DAKOTA TRAIL, THE RAIL LINE FROM ORONO ORCHARDS TO THE EAST AND BROWN ROAD IN THERE AS WELL.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY'VE RUN INTO, ADAM, ON THAT PROJECT, WHY IT'S KIND OF TAKING SO LONG? WELL, THEY HAD A LOT OF DIFFICULTY IN SETTING UP THEIR NOT DIFFICULTIES, BUT IT IS CHALLENGING, ESPECIALLY WITH PIPES OF THAT SIZE FOR THEM TO SET UP THE BYPASS IS A PRESSURIZED PIPE.

SO THE FIRST THING THEY DID QUITE A BIT OF TIME DOING WAS SETTING UP THEIR BYPASS AND NOW THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON GETTING THE THEIR ACTUAL REPLACEMENT PIPE IN PLACE AND IN THE MEANTIME, I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WAS DISCOVERY OF SOME NATIVE AMERICAN ARTIFACTS IN THE GROUND.

SO HENCE THE SIFTING COMMENTS THAT HAVE HAD AN ARCHEOLOGIST ON SITE LOOKING THROUGH THE SPOILS FROM THAT PROJECT AND ONCE YOU START DOING THAT, IT REALLY DOES.

IT DOES TEND TO SLOW THE PROJECT WAY DOWN, AS THEY HAVE TO PRACTICE THE APPROPRIATE DUE DILIGENCE AS THEY GO THROUGH THOSE.

YOU HAVE TO RESPECT THE REMAINS.

CORRECT. PEOPLE HAVE TO KNOW THAT THIS WAS AN EMERGENCY REPAIR THAT THEY WERE NOT EXPECTING EITHER THAT THEY DUG IN AND THEY SAW THAT THEY HAD TO GET IN THERE IMMEDIATELY TO REPAIR. THEY WERE DOING THEY WERE DOING THE PREPARATORY WORK FOR THEIR DELIBERATE PROJECT AND REALIZED THEY HAD A SIGNIFICANT ISSUE WITH WHAT THEY ALREADY HAD.

SO HENCE THE EMERGENCY REPAIR.

IS THERE A GOOD PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO GET INFORMATION ON THE PENDING DEADLINE? LIKE WHAT? WE'RE GUESSING.

OBVIOUSLY IT'S STILL A BEST GUESS.

SO THEY DO HAVE THE MET COUNCIL AS WELL AS HENNEPIN COUNTY AND ANY OF THE OTHER AGENCIES THAT DO WORK IN OUR CITY.

THEY USUALLY ALL HAVE A PROJECT WEBSITE FOR WHATEVER PROJECT AND THEN WE WILL NORMALLY HAVE LINKS TO THAT ON OUR WEBSITE.

SO IF FOLKS ARE LOOKING FOR THOSE UPDATES, I DID REACH OUT TO THE STAFF FROM THE MET COUNCIL JUST THIS LAST WEEK, ASKING THEM IF THEY COULD DO A LITTLE BIT BETTER JOB OF PUSHING OUT SOME UPDATES ON.

THANK YOU ON THAT. THEY SAID THEY HAD AN UPDATE FORTHCOMING.

THANK YOU.

THE OTHER THING WE WE ALSO HAD SOME ISSUES WITH ONE OF OUR SEWER PROJECTS.

WE ARE DOING THE CURED IN PLACE PIPELINING OF SOME OF OUR SEWER MAINS AND WE'RE GETTING DOWN TO THE, THE LAST COUPLE THAT WE NEEDED TO DO.

WE DID HAVE THE CONTRACTOR LAST WEEK BREAK OFF A PIECE OF THEIR EQUIPMENT INSIDE ONE OF THE PIPES AND SO THAT.

YEAH, THAT'S A BAD DAY.

THAT IS UNFORTUNATE.

YES. SO WE DID HAVE TO.

THEY DID HAVE TO DO SOME WORK TO PUT IN A BYPASS.

A TEMPORARY BYPASS LINE AND THEY WILL BE DIGGING THAT THIS THURSDAY TO DIG DOWN AND SEE IF THEY CAN RECOVER THEIR PIECE OF EQUIPMENT OR REPAIR THAT PIPE.

SO EVERYBODY OVER 50.

THIS WASN'T ED NORTON AND THIS IS IN A SEWER MAIN THAT IS OVER NEAR OUR HACKBERRY NEIGHBORHOOD THAT LEADS IN AND CONNECTS INTO THE LONG LAKE SYSTEM.

SO IT ALSO TOOK SOME SOME COORDINATION WITH THE NEIGHBORING CITY AND THEN FINALLY, A BIT OF GOOD NEWS.

NEXT MONDAY THE 19TH, OUR NEW PARKS AND FACILITIES.

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AWESOME. HE WAS GRACIOUS ENOUGH TO COME JOIN US FOR THE PARKS COMMISSION MEETING LAST TUESDAY.

BUT HIS FIRST OFFICIAL START DATE WILL BE NEXT MONDAY.

VERY GLAD TO HAVE HIM ON BOARD. AWESOME.

GREAT CANDIDATE FOR SURE.

I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF THINGS FOR YOU.

SURE. FIRST OF ALL THE COUNTY'S PROJECT ON BAYSIDE I THOUGHT WAS VERY IMPRESSIVE.

I LIVE RIGHT OFF OF BAYSIDE.

IT WAS INCONVENIENT FOR A FEW DAYS, BUT THEY DID THAT IN RECORD TIME, I THOUGHT.

I MEAN, THEY RIPPED IT UP.

IT WAS A MILL AND OVERLAY AND PAINTED THAT REALLY FAST.

THAT WAS NICE. THE ROAD IS SO NICE THAT THERE'S BEEN SOME REQUESTS TO PUT SOME ADDITIONAL STOP SIGNS IN NOW BECAUSE OF THE SPEED.

WHERE DOES SOMEBODY GO FOR THAT? THAT'S A COUNTY ROAD. THEY GO WITH THE COUNTY.

CORRECT. OKAY AND WE DO OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE CHIEFS HERE SOMEWHERE, WE DO DO SPEED ENFORCEMENT.

SO SOMETIMES WHAT WE'LL ALSO DO IS ON THOSE NEW ROADS IS WE HAVE SOME SPEED FEEDBACK TRAILERS.

SO IF RESIDENTS REACH OUT ABOUT A PARTICULAR AREA, THEY HAVE CONCERN.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE'LL DO IS WORK WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO GET A SPEED FEEDBACK TRAILER.

BUT IF FOLKS ARE LOOKING TO MAKE SOME PERMANENT TYPE CHANGE ON A COUNTY ROADWAY, THEN YEAH, WE'LL GET THEM IN TOUCH WITH THE COUNTY ROAD.

COUNTY TRAFFIC ENGINEERS.

OKAY AND BECAUSE DJ IS NOT HERE TONIGHT, I ALSO WANTED TO BRING UP ABOUT TREE BRANCHES AND TREE TRUNKS OVER SIX INCHES IN DIAMETER AT OUR FACILITY FOR OUR BRUSH SITE, SO WE CURRENTLY DON'T TAKE THAT WITH THE RECENT STORMS. A COUPLE DIFFERENT RESIDENTS, ONE I RAN INTO AND THE OTHER ONE CALLED ME.

HAD TREES FALL DOWN AND THEN THEY TOOK THEM, CHOPPED THEM UP, BROUGHT THEM OVER THERE, AND THEN THEY WERE TOLD THEY WERE TOO BIG IN DIAMETER AND WE DON'T TAKE IT AND SO I THINK WE WERE IN TALKING TO ADAM, THEY WERE YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE EXPENSE OF HOW THAT GREW OVER THERE, AND IT GOT EXPENSIVE.

BUT I WOULD LIKE US TO AT LEAST EVALUATE A PAID SERVICE, AT LEAST IF, YOU KNOW, IF THE BIGGER STUFF IS MORE EXPENSIVE, THAT AT LEAST GIVE OUR RESIDENTS AN OPTION TO PAY WHATEVER OUR COST IS TO HAVE THE BIGGER STUFF REMOVED INSTEAD OF JUST TURNING THEM AWAY.

WE, YOU KNOW, IT'S ONE OF THE SERVICES WE PROVIDE THAT I GET A LOT OF POSITIVE FEEDBACK BECAUSE THAT IS A GREAT RESOURCE AND YOU CAN GET SOIL THERE AND WOODCHIPS AND ALL THAT.

SO IT'S A GREAT THING.

BUT I THINK WE SHOULD AT LEAST EVALUATE IF ONE OF THE OPTIONS IS TO PROVIDE.

SOME OF IT HAS A COST TO RESIDENTS BECAUSE RESIDENTS ONLY, AND AT LEAST THEY HAVE A PLACE TO BRING IT FOR A FEE AND IT'LL BE AN INTERESTING CONVERSATION TO HAVE ABOUT WHAT THAT WOULD ENTAIL IF WE COULD DO THAT.

SO AS WE HAD A CONVERSATION EARLIER TODAY.

SO AT THE BRUSH SITE MAYBE 2 OR 3 YEARS AGO, WE MADE A POLICY DECISION TO EXCLUDE THE LARGER TRUNKS, BASICALLY OF THE TREES, BECAUSE WHAT WE WERE FINDING IS THAT THE, BRUSH SITE WAS JUST GETTING OVERWHELMED WITH JUST VOLUME AND MASS.

SO WE WENT OUT AND LOOKED AT WHAT SOME OF OUR COMPETITORS IN THE BRUSH SITE WORLD WE'RE DOING, AND A NUMBER OF THEM EXCLUDED SIX INCH AND LARGE AREAS AND BUT THE OTHER THING WE TALKED ABOUT IS WE COULD LOOK AT AS WE GO THROUGH, AS WE DO EVERY YEAR AS PART OF THE BUDGET WITH THE FEE SCHEDULE. IF THERE'S A MECHANISM THAT WE MIGHT ADD SOMETHING LIKE THAT BACK IN THE FEE SCHEDULE AS WE LOOK TO 2025.

SO IT'S KIND OF WHAT KIND OF WHAT WOULD BE MY THOUGHTS AND I'D LIKE TO SEE US, YOU KNOW BE ABLE TO DO THAT FOR THIS FALL FOR, FOR PEOPLE'S CLEANUP.

SO MAYBE WE CAN WHAT WOULD THE NEXT STEP BE FOR YOU GUYS TO, FOR STAFF TO TALK TO OUR CURRENT SUPPLIER AND SEE HOW MUCH MORE THEY CHARGE FOR THE BIGGER STUFF OR.

WELL, I THINK WE CAN DO THAT ANALYSIS RIGHT OFF THE BAT BECAUSE IT'S NOT REALLY THE OUR CONTRACT.

THE CONTRACTOR THAT COMES TO DO OUR GRINDING DOESN'T DIFFERENTIATE IN THE SIZE OF THE BRANCHES.

THAT'S SOMETHING WE DID TO REDUCE THE OVERALL VOLUME AT THE SITE.

SO WE CAN FIGURE OUT A THAT'S WHAT YOU'D LIKE US TO DO.

SO WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SQUEEZE THAT IN IF WE WANTED TO THIS FALL, JUST BY ADJUSTING THE FEE SCHEDULE, WE COULD JUST IT WOULD JUST AN AMENDMENT TO THE FEE SCHEDULE.

IF WE COULD GET IT DONE QUICK ENOUGH, WE COULD.

WELL, BECAUSE WE WERE BECAUSE NOW WE'RE LIMITED ORONO RESIDENTS.

BECAUSE BEFORE WE WERE GETTING OUTSIDE OF ORONO TO WE STILL ACCEPT OUTSIDE OF ORONO AND A FEE.

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OKAY, SO IF YOU WANT US TO LOOK AT OPTIONS LIKE ACCEPTING THE TREE TRUNKS FROM ORONO RESIDENTS FOR A FEE OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WE COULD DO SOMETHING.

YEAH, THAT'D BE REALLY COOL AND THEN HOW YOU FIGURE OUT THAT, OR MAYBE IS ANOTHER WAY TO DO IT, IS TO JUST CHANGE IT.

THAT ORONO RESIDENCE FOR THE REMAINDER OF THIS YEAR CAN BRING THE BIGGER STUFF AND WE SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT KIND OF VOLUME INCREASE THAT REALLY MEANS TO US. WE CAN, BUT I THINK WE'D HAVE TO WE'D STILL HAVE TO DO AN AMENDMENT TO OUR FEE SCHEDULE, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE [INAUDIBLE] SAYS NO, NOTHING OVER SIX INCHES.

YEAH. IT'S GOING TO INCREASE COST OF DOING IT.

BUT THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN CERTAINLY WE CAN LOOK AT IT.

YEAH. BUT EITHER WAY WE HAVE TO ADJUST THE FEE SCHEDULE BECAUSE IT SAYS NOTHING OVER SIX.

SO WE WOULD HAVE TO ADJUST IT EITHER WAY.

OH YEAH. OKAY.

SO DO YOU NEED A MOTION TO MAKE A CHANGE OR TO BRING A PROPOSAL OR PROBABLY JUST A DIRECTION? YEAH. JUST DIRECTION.

YEAH. JUST LOOK AT IT. YEAH.

WE'LL PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER AND BRING IT UP TO A FUTURE MEETING FOR YOU.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

ANYTHING ELSE? NO.

THAT'S ALL. ANYTHING ELSE FOR ADAM? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ADAM.

ALL RIGHT, WELL, NOW WE'RE TO COUNCIL COMMITTEE REPORTS.

[16. Council Committee Reports]

WE HAD THE ORONO POLICE COMMISSION AND THAT WAS MATT AND COUNCIL MEMBER.

BENSON. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

SO WE MET ON JULY 24TH AND COVERED SO MANY THINGS.

IT'S ALWAYS VERY INFORMATIVE MEETING.

THE DEPARTMENT'S BEEN BUSY WITH OVER OR ABOUT 10,000 CALLS SINCE JANUARY 1ST, WHICH IS A LOT AND THE DEPARTMENT IS SEEING AN INCREASE IN ONLINE SCAMS WHERE INDIVIDUALS.

I DON'T KNOW ALL THE DETAILS, BUT FOLKS ARE BEING ASKED TO EITHER GIVE MONEY OR WHATNOT, AND IT'S A SCAM AND SO AWARENESS AROUND THAT ISSUE IS IMPORTANT FOR FRIENDS, COMMUNITY MEMBERS, RELATIVES BECAUSE IT'S QUITE HARD, IF NOT IMPOSSIBLE, TO RETRIEVE FUNDS ONCE THEY'VE BEEN TAKEN.

THE SOCIAL WORKER, THE EMBEDDED SOCIAL WORKER CONTINUES TO BE VERY BUSY AND HAS BEEN VERY BENEFICIAL, WITH 76 CASES REFERRED SO FAR IN 2024 AND IS REALLY MAKING A BIG IMPACT THERE, THEIR SHARED WITH SEVERAL OTHER CITIES.

THIS INDIVIDUAL AND SHE'S DOING A LOT TO REALLY HAVE AN IMPACT ON FOLKS WHO NEED CERTAIN TYPES OF ASSISTANCE AND WHO HAVE BEEN CALLING THE DEPARTMENT FOR HELP AND IS REALLY MAKING A LOT OF HEADWAY WITH THAT AND RELIEVING SOME OF THE PRESSURE ON THE DEPARTMENT, WHICH IS WONDERFUL TO KNOW.

WITH THE K-9 PROGRAM, K-9 WILL BE COMING EARLY IN THE NEW YEAR AND WILL TRAIN WITH AN OFFICER FOR A PERIOD OF TIME WITH A PROJECTED START TIME, I BELIEVE, OF NEXT SUMMER TO BEGIN PATROLLING OR BEING UTILIZED.

HOWEVER IT WORKS. IT'S NOT A K-9 UNIT AND I KNOW THE DETAILS, BUT THE K-9 WILL BE ABLE TO GET TO WORK.

IT LOOKS LIKE NEXT SUMMER.

LET'S SEE WHAT ELSE THE DEPARTMENT WAS AWARDED.

A TRAFFIC SAFETY VEHICLE, A GRANT FOR A VEHICLE TO PATROL FOR DISTRACTED DRIVING AND THIS UNMARKED VEHICLE IS, AS NOW, ARRIVED ON SITE AND WILL BE USED TO STOP PERSONS WHO ARE USING TECHNOLOGY IN WAYS THAT IS NOT ALLOWED LEGALLY, AND TO DO SOME EDUCATION AROUND THAT AND THE NICE PART ABOUT THIS IS THAT THE FOLKS ARE STUDENTS WHO ARE LEARNING HOW TO DRIVE, AND DRIVER'S ED HAVE ALREADY BENEFITED FROM SOME EDUCATION AROUND THIS, WHICH IS REALLY CRITICAL.

REALLY NICE TO HEAR.

FLOCK CAMERAS ARE THE TECHNOLOGY, WHICH IS REALLY CRITICAL FOR INVESTIGATIVE REASONS AND THE DEPARTMENT, THESE ARE ABOUT $3,900 APIECE AND WE'RE LOOKING TO POSSIBLY ACQUIRE MORE OF THESE BECAUSE THEY'RE SO CRITICAL IN TERMS OF THE ABILITY OF THE INVESTIGATORS TO BE ABLE TO SEE INFORMATION THAT IS ASSISTING WITH SOME INVESTIGATIONS THAT ARE CONTINUING AND WILL CONTINUE.

SO THAT'S MONEY THAT MAY BE LOOKED AT BEING NEEDED IN THE NEAR TERM FOR MORE TECHNOLOGY AROUND POLICING AND MAKING SURE THE DEPARTMENT HAS WHAT IT NEEDS TO DO THAT WELL.

THE DEPARTMENT IS ON TRACK FOR BEING AT OR UNDER BUDGET THIS YEAR AND ENDING WITH THE FUN PART COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.

THERE ARE TOO MANY TO RECOUNT, SO I WON'T RECOUNT THEM ALL, BUT MANY VISITS TO VARIOUS EVENTS IN THE COMMUNITY AND REALLY POSITIVE RESPONSES THERE. AND THE DEPARTMENT CONTINUES TO WORK REALLY DILIGENTLY TO CONNECT WITH FOLKS AT TIMES WHEN THEY'RE NOT IN NEED OF AN EMERGENCY, WHICH IS ALWAYS NICE TO BE ABLE TO DO.

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YEAH. THE ONLY OTHER THING WAS YOU KNOW, THERE WAS SOME CONVERSATION AROUND THE PROSECUTING ATTORNEYS COVERING THE CITIES AND SO WITH OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT COVERING MULTIPLE CITIES AND USING DIFFERENT PROSECUTORS TO OTHER SURROUNDING CITIES.

THEY'RE EITHER RETIRING OR CANCELING THEIR CONTRACTS.

SO THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO POTENTIALLY CONSOLIDATE.

SO WE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS AND OFFERED OUR SUPPORT WITH THEM TO BECAUSE WE HAD ALREADY COVERED THIS AND SO THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER THING JUST TO ONE OF THE THINGS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT RUNS INTO IS THEY AN INCIDENT MIGHT START IN ONE CITY, END IN ANOTHER, AND THEN YOU HAVE TWO DIFFERENT ATTORNEYS INVOLVED, POTENTIALLY IN A PROSECUTION AND IF WE LEAST LOOKED AT THE PROSECUTION SIDE TO CONSOLIDATE, THERE COULD BE SOME EFFICIENCIES WITH THAT.

SO THAT WAS THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT WAS TALKED ABOUT.

SO IT'S GOOD MEETING, YOU KNOW, GOOD REVIEWS ON THE DEPARTMENT FROM OUR MEMBER CITIES AND WE THANK THEM FOR THEIR SERVICE.

ALL RIGHT. WE ALSO HAVE THE LONG LAKE FIRE DEPARTMENT ADVISORY BOARD WITH COUNCIL MEMBER CROSBY COUNCIL MEMBER VEACH.

YOU WANT TO START, MARIA? SURE.

GO AHEAD. THE MAIN THING THAT OUR GROUP DOES IS TALK ABOUT THE BUDGET.

SO WE DID FINALIZE THE BUDGET AFTER A FEW MINOR TWEAKS.

WITH THE PARTIAL TERRITORY REMOVED FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR, THE COST WENT DOWN FOR THE CONTRACT, AS EXPECTED AND THE FINAL WILL BE PRESENTED SOON.

THE CALCULATION FOR THE SECOND LARGEST LINE ITEM.

THE DUTY CREW WASN'T CORRECTED, BUT THEY'RE WORKING ON IT, AND WE'LL HAVE THAT.

THAT BEING SAID, IT'S SUCH A SMALL PERCENTAGE.

IT WAS JUST A BEST PRACTICE EXERCISE, MORE THAN AN IMPACTFUL FOR THE BUDGET AS FAR AS THAT WENT.

THE CIP WAS NOT PRESENTED LAST YEAR AND THERE WASN'T A SUGGESTION FOR A CIP, BUT IT WAS REINTRODUCED THIS YEAR AND ALTHOUGH THE PURCHASE HAS ALREADY BEEN MADE, THEY ARE SEEKING FUNDING WHERE THEY TALKED ABOUT DOING THIS SEPARATELY FROM THE BUDGET AS THEY DID LAST, AS WE DID LAST YEAR.

SO WE DID THE OPERATING BUDGET AND THE CIP SEPARATELY AND THAT DISCUSSION WILL COME UP AGAIN AFTER TALKING ABOUT THE CONTRACT COMING TO AN END AND HOW DO YOU UNBUNDLE AN ASSET WITH ONLY A FEW MONTHS LEFT? WE TALKED ABOUT IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND HOW DEPRECIATION WORKS ON A VEHICLE IF YOU DRIVE IT OFF THE LOT.

WE ALL KNOW WE LOSE VALUE.

SO WE TALKED ABOUT ASSURANCES AND IF THEY WERE ABLE TO PURCHASE IT AT THE END OF THE CONTRACT FROM US AND WE COULD FLOAT THEM THE MONEY IF THEY NEEDED IT FOR CASH FLOW JUST TO DO THE CIP AND THAT WAS SOMETHING THEY WERE GOING TO DISCUSS.

SO THAT WOULD BE MAYBE A GOOD INTERIM WAY THAT WE'D BE ABLE TO HELP SUPPORT A CIP, GET THE CAPITAL THAT THEY NEED AND ALSO HAVE A CLEAN ENDING INSTEAD OF TRYING TO MURKY THE WATER AT THE END OF A CONTRACT.

ANY OTHER? I REALLY DON'T HAVE MUCH MORE TO ADD.

YOU DID A NICE JOB.

IT'S I THINK THE CFP DISCUSSION WAS WAS BIG AND LIKE MARIA SAID, THE UNBUNDLING OF ASSETS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING AND, YEAH, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT IT AND OF COURSE, WE WANT TO BE SUPPORTIVE AND INVEST IN THE ASSETS NEEDED TO PROTECT OUR COMMUNITY.

THAT BEING SAID, WE ALSO REALIZE THIS IS A BUDGET MEETING AND TO UNBUNDLE AT THE END.

WITH ONLY A FEW MONTHS LEFT, IT MIGHT NOT COME TILL JULY OF NEXT YEAR.

SO BY THE TIME IT'S DELIVERED WE'D HAVE SIX MONTHS AND HAVE TO FIGURE IT OUT.

IT'D BEHOOVE US TO FIGURE THAT OUT IN ADVANCE.

THEY SEEM PRETTY OPEN TO THAT SUGGESTION THAT I BROUGHT UP AND I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO PRESENT SOMETHING AT THEIR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.

GREAT. ARE THERE PARTICULAR CAPITAL PURCHASES THAT ARE NEEDED OR CAPITAL ITEMS THAT ARE NEEDED RIGHT NOW FOR THE DEPARTMENT? I DID CLARIFY THAT AT THE LAST MEETING.

NOTHING WILL IMPACT SAFETY.

THEY HAVE NO CONCERNS FOR SAFETY AND THEY SAID THAT THIS WAS SOMETHING OBVIOUSLY THAT WASN'T PRESENTED LAST YEAR FOR THIS TIME.

THEY MOVED IT UP BECAUSE IT'S A WANT, NOT A NEED NECESSARILY.

IT WILL BE NOT AN IMMEDIATE NEED.

I SHOULD SAY IT WON'T IMPACT SAFETY AND THEY'RE ABLE TO DO THE JOB WITH WHAT THEY HAVE.

WHAT IS IT? IS IT A VEHICLE OR.

YEAH, A VEHICLE TRUCK.

YEAH. OKAY. SO WE'RE NOT OBLIGATED AS A CITY AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS A QUESTION FOR SOVEREIGN OR THE COUNCIL OR CITY ADMINISTRATOR, BUT WE HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT CLEARLY STATES THAT OUR CITY WILL SHARE IN THE COSTS OF THE DEPARTMENT WHICH IS SERVING US, WHICH IS LONG LAKE, WHICH WE'RE STILL BEING SERVED OF.

SO I'M WONDERING IF WE HAVE ANY OBLIGATION TO FUND CAPITAL PURCHASES FOR THE DEPARTMENT THAT IS CONTINUING TO SERVE OUR CITY INTO NEXT YEAR.

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THERE ARE TWO SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT PROCESSES.

SO WE AS A CITY DO HAVE TO MAKE AND DO AN APPROVAL OF THE OPERATING BUDGET.

THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT BUDGET HAS TO BE PRESENTED TO US AND YOU HAVE A DECISION ABOUT WHETHER YOU WANT TO DO THAT.

IF FOR SOME REASON WE SAY NO ON AN OPERATING BUDGET, THERE IS A WHOLE PROCESS LAID OUT IN THE CONTRACT OF HOW THE OPERATING BUDGET IS THEN DECIDED IN THE CAPITAL PORTION. IF THE CAPITAL BUDGET IS IS NOT APPROVED, IT'S JUST NOT APPROVED AND THAT WHEN I BROUGHT UP THAT SUGGESTION THE MEETING BEFORE ACTUALLY, I HAD SAID SCOTT HAD OPENED IT AND OPENED THE MEETING SAYING IT WAS A SILLY EXERCISE, KNOWING THAT THE CONTRACT IS COMING TO AN END.

SO I DIDN'T REALLY GIVE IT MUCH THOUGHT BEFORE THE MEETING WHEN I CAME IN AND SAID, IS THIS JUST A SILLY EXERCISE OR ARE WE ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT THIS? AND THEN THAT'S WHEN THAT DISCUSSION CAME UP AND MEDINA SAID THAT THEY THOUGHT THAT WAS A GOOD APPROACH, AS WELL AS JUST HAVING SOMETHING OUTSIDE THE CONTRACT TO FIGURE OUT.

SO WE DON'T END UP WITH TWO TRUCKS.

THEY DON'T END UP WITH TWO TRUCKS THAT THEY DON'T NEED.

WE CAN ALL GET THE THINGS WE NEED.

SO WHERE IS IT LEFT? I GUESS IN TERMS OF THE CAPITAL PIECE.

SO JOHN JOHN SAID HE WAS SUPPORTIVE OF THAT SUGGESTION THAT I HAD MADE, AND HE WAS GOING TO RUN IT BY HIS COUNCIL.

I KNOW HE BROUGHT IT UP TO THE COUNCIL AND THEY'RE GOING TO DRAW IT UP, IT SOUNDS LIKE, FOR THEIR NEXT MEETING.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

YEAH. SO THAT'S IT.

ALL RIGHT. WELL, THAT WILL BRING US TO OUR PUBLIC COMMENTS, WHICH IS LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES A PERSON.

[Public Comments ]

THE COUNCIL WILL NOT ENGAGE IN DISCUSSION OR TAKE ACTION ON ITEMS PRESENTED AT THIS TIME.

HOWEVER, THE COUNCIL MAY REFER ISSUES TO STAFF FOR FOLLOW UP OR CONSIDERATION AT A FUTURE MEETING.

SPEAKERS SHOULD STATE THEIR NAME AND HOME ADDRESS AT THE PODIUM BEFORE SPEAKING.

WE'LL OPEN THE PODIUM FIRST TO ORONO RESIDENTS, AND THEN ONCE THE ORONO RESIDENTS ARE DONE, THEN WE OPEN UP THE PODIUM TO ANY OTHER MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL. ADAM IS OUR TIMEKEEPER AND HE'LL PUT THE TIME ON THE ON THE SCREEN AND SO IS THERE ANYBODY FROM ORONO WHO WOULD LIKE TO COME UP TONIGHT? GOOD EVENING.

I'M MICHAEL HUDDY, 4119 OAK STREET IN ORONO FOR THE LAST 22 YEARS.

I'M A PROCEDURAL QUESTION.

FIRST, DURING THE COUNCIL COMMITTEE DISCUSSIONS, DO YOU PREFER THAT THE PUBLIC STAY OUT OF THAT UNTIL THE DISCUSSIONS ARE OVER AND THEY COME UP? OR CAN YOU ASK QUESTIONS DURING IN PROCESS? IT'S YOU'RE OBSERVING A MEETING, SO THERE REALLY ISN'T A QUESTION AND ANSWER SESSION.

YOU CAN DO THAT AFTER THE MEETING IF YOU WANT TO MEET SOMEBODY.

OKAY. WELL, I WOULD HAVE COMMENTED ON THE ON ADAM'S REPORT ON THE TREES IN THE SIX INCH BUSINESS.

THERE'S A HUGE ISSUE ON OUR DOORSTEP, AND WE'VE HIT THE TIPPING POINT ALREADY WITH THIS EMERALD ASH BORER.

THERE'S THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF TREES IN THE CITY, SOME ON PUBLIC PROPERTY, SOME ON PRIVATE PROPERTY AND SOME OF THESE PROPERTIES ARE SO IMPACTED THAT I DON'T THINK THE HOMEOWNERS MAY BE ABLE TO EVEN AFFORD TO DO WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO NOW TO CUT THEM DOWN WHEN THEY'RE SICK, OR WAIT TILL THEY FALL DOWN AND CUT THEM UP. AND I KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT GOING ON NOW.

ADAM DID A WONDERFUL JOB SENDING CREWS OUT JUST ON MY STREET WHERE WE HAD TREES FALL DOWN TWICE, BUT ALONG BOTH ON THE ACCESS POINTS THAT THE CITY OWNS THAT AREN'T REALLY UTILIZED VERY OFTEN.

THERE'S JUST LOTS OF TREES AND MOST OF THEM ARE OVER SIX INCHES.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO GO, BUT I THINK THERE SHOULD BE SOME TASK COMMITTEE PUT TOGETHER, IN MY OPINION, TO RESEARCH THIS AND FIND OUT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN OVER THE NEXT 4 OR 5 YEARS, AND HOW ARE YOU GOING TO ADDRESS IT? BECAUSE THERE'S MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF COSTS THERE, RIGHT? THAT'S ALL I HAVE. OKAY. THANKS, MICHAEL.

THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE FROM ORONO TONIGHT? HI. JEANNIE DELANEY, 1315 WOODHILL AVENUE.

I JUST WANT TO COMMENT ON THE FIRE DISCUSSION.

COUNCILMEMBER BENSON WAS TALKING ABOUT AS A CITIZEN.

WE DON'T HAVE.

I MEAN, THIS IS SUCH A CONTENTIOUS ISSUE.

THIS FIRE DEPARTMENT THING AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT FUTURE COSTS ARE GOING TO BE OR NOT.

I'M INTERESTED IN SOME OF THE DATA THAT COUNCILMEMBER BENSON ASKED FOR.

I THINK IT WOULD BE INTERESTING JUST TO SEE HOW THIS WHOLE NEW EXPERIMENT OVER HERE IN AND WITH A SMALLER FIRE DEPARTMENT, HOW IT'S WORKING.

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IT'S JUST GOOD DATA TO KNOW, AND I THINK IT WOULD JUST BEHOOVE YOU ALL TO BE AS TRANSPARENT AS POSSIBLE ON THIS ISSUE.

THANK YOU. THANKS.

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE FROM ORONO THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME UP TONIGHT? BRIAN TURBIVILLE 997 WILD HORSE TRAIL AND I WOULD LIKE TO MIMIC WHAT JANIE HAD JUST MENTIONED, THAT IN PRIVATE BUSINESS, THE OUTLIER COSTS ME A MAJOR CLIENT.

PROBABLY JOBS.

AND IN THE CITY, THAT OUTLIER LAYER COSTS THE HOUSE BURNS ALL THE WAY DOWN, MAYBE TAKES THE NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE DOWN AND COSTS LIVES.

I THINK IT'D BE IRRESPONSIBLE NOT TO LOOK AT THE DATA.

WE WENT DOWN THE ROAD OF CREATING A FIRE DEPARTMENT.

THAT'S BEEN DONE. WE NEED TO HAVE THE DATA IN ORDER TO REGULATE AND RUN THAT DEPARTMENT AS NEEDED AND THAT'S NOT THAT IS OVERSIGHT ONLY.

RIGHT. THERE'S THERE'S CAPABLE PEOPLE IN CHARGE AND I GET THAT.

BUT IT NEEDS WITHOUT THE DATA AND TO SAY IT'S NOT IMPORTANT OR TO COMPARE IT TO LAST YEAR'S DATA, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, IT WOULDN'T BE THE RIGHT WAY TO GO.

BUT FOR THE SAFETY OF THE COMMUNITY, YOU WOULD NEVER DO THIS.

YOU WOULD NEVER NOT LOOK AT THE OUTLIER IN A PRIVATE BUSINESS.

THANK YOU.

ANYBODY ELSE FROM ORONO THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME UP TONIGHT? THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I DIDN'T REALIZE I COULD GET UP AND SPEAK TONIGHT.

I'M CLAIRE RUUD.

I LIVE AT 3280 NAVARRE LANE IN THE BEAUTIFUL CITY OF ORONO, AND I HAVE BEEN A RESIDENT FOR 36 YEARS AND I LOVE THE TOWN. I LOVE OUR MAYOR AND WE'VE GOT THE BEST POLICE CHIEF ANYWHERE.

IT WAS AN AGREEMENT WRITTEN SOME YEARS BACK BY THE CITY OF ORONO.

FOR A STREET THAT RUNS PARALLEL TO MY PROPERTY, WHICH I HAVE A TWO AND A HALF ACRE LOT THAT HAS 550FT, I BELIEVE, OF A FRONTAGE ALONG THIS ROAD CALLED HILLSIDE PLACE, AND THIS IS THE CITY LANGUAGE.

HILLSIDE PLACE IS AN UNDEVELOPED PUBLIC ROAD RIGHT OF WAY, DEDICATED ON THE PLAT OF WALLACE'S ADDITION TO MINNETONKA BEACH AND THAT'S THE WAY IT IS WRITTEN.

I'M HAVING A BIT OF A DISPUTE WITH A NEIGHBOR WHO CLAIMS IT'S GOING TO BE HIS OWN PRIVATE DRIVEWAY.

HE HAS PLACED 40 TON OF BOULDERS ALONG MY PROPERTY, SO THAT I CANNOT ACCESS MY LOT, TO DO MY PLANTING, TO TAKE CARE OF MY TREES AND THE PLACE THAT I'VE GOT THERE IS ALWAYS SPOTLESS.

NOT EVEN A GUM WRAPPER.

OUR WONDERFUL MAYOR HAS BEEN THERE AND HAS SEEN IT.

I'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE CITY STAFF, AND I WISH TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE ON THE COUNCIL NEXT MONTH. I WOULD LIKE TO BE HERE AND I WILL BE HERE WITH A LOT OF RESIDENTS BECAUSE THIS IS A TRAVESTY.

IT IS NOT SOMETHING YOU DO.

YOU DON'T WANT TO COME HOME AND HAVE SOMEBODY GOT BOULDERS IN FRONT OF YOUR PROPERTY WHERE YOU CAN'T GET ONTO IT.

IT'S A TRAVESTY OF JUSTICE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU SIR AND I WILL SAY, CLAIRE, I DID TALK TO FOX NEWS TONIGHT.

CALLED ME AS WELL. I THINK THEY WERE OUT AT YOUR PLACE.

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE FROM ORONO THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME UP TONIGHT? I SEE NOBODY ELSE FROM ORONO.

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO COME UP TONIGHT? GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS JOHN SUNDELL AND I LIVE AT 1717 JONES LANE IN MOUND, MINNESOTA.

THE ORONO POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS JURISDICTION, I GUESS, IN THE CITY OF MOUND TO ISSUE CITATIONS.

I HAD A TRAILER TOWED FROM IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE.

IT WAS A TRAILER THAT I DID NOT OWN.

THIS GENTLEMAN RIGHT HERE IS ROD TAYLOR.

HE'S A CONTRACTOR THAT OWNS THE TRAILER.

THE CITATION WAS ISSUED TO ROD TAYLOR IN HIS MAILING ADDRESS.

THE CITATION WAS MAILED TO ME AT 1717.

JONES. I WAS ON VACATION FOR EIGHT DAYS.

I GOT THIS CITATION WHEN I RETURNED FROM VACATION.

THE OWNER OF THE TRAILER HAD NO IDENTIFICATION, THAT HIS TRAILER HAD BEEN TOWED, THAT IT HAD BEEN SITTING IN STORAGE IN THE TOWING WILLIAMS TOWING

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HE HAD NO INDICATION THAT ANYTHING WAS TOWED.

HE WAS OFF WORKING SOMEWHERE ELSE.

I WAS ON VACATION.

MY REQUEST TO THE COUNCIL IS TO CONSIDER REIMBURSING MY CONTRACTOR FOR THOSE TOWING FEES AND STORAGE FEES.

HE WAS UNAWARE OF THAT.

THIS I FEEL COUNCIL IS A PROCESS FAILURE WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND HOW THEY ISSUE CITATIONS.

THE OWNER OF THE TRAILER HAD NO UNDERSTANDING, NOTHING WHETHER THE TRAILER WAS STOLEN, TOWED, BURNT ON FIRE, NOTHING.

THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAD HIS IDENTIFICATION, HAD HIS MAILING ADDRESS.

THEY FAILED TO MAIL THAT CITATION TO THE PROPER ADDRESS.

THE RESULT OF THAT IS MY CONTRACTOR HAD TO PAY NEARLY $900 TO RETRIEVE HIS TRAILER FROM STORAGE.

MY REQUEST, AGAIN, IS THAT THE COUNCIL CONSIDER THIS AS A FAILURE TO NOTIFY THE OWNER, THE RIGHTFUL OWNER OF THIS TRAILER, SO HE COULD DO THE RIGHTFUL THING AND RETRIEVE HIS TRAILER.

HE HAD NO NOTIFICATION.

AGAIN, THAT WAS NEARLY $900 THAT THE TAXPAYING CITIZEN HAD TO PAY TO RETRIEVE HIS STUFF, AND HE WAS UNAWARE THAT IT WAS EVEN GONE.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'D DO TO REQUEST ACTION FROM THE COUNCIL.

I DON'T KNOW HOW WE PROCEED HERE.

I JUST WANTED TO PUT IT OUT THERE.

I HAVE NOTIFIED THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

I HAVE NOTIFIED ADAM.

I'VE REACHED OUT TO MANY PEOPLE AND THE SERGEANTS INVOLVED.

I HAVE HAD MANY CONVERSATIONS WITH THESE PEOPLE.

THEY JUST HAVE TOLD THEIR RESPONSE WAS THAT THEY HAVE NO NEED.

THEY HAVE NO POLICY TO NOTIFY PEOPLE IF THEY'VE BEEN TOLD OR ISSUED A CITATION.

I FEEL THAT'S WRONG.

OK, WELL, I'LL SAY FIRST, JUST I KNOW THAT THE TIME IS UP, SO WE'RE KIND OF PRETTY SICK AT THE TIME.

BUT I WOULD SAY IF YOU COULD MAYBE PUT SOMETHING JUST IN SOME WRITING FORM, IF YOU COULD, TO.

ADAM. ADAM CAN MEET WITH THE CHIEF AND THEY CAN KIND OF CIRCULATE IT.

THEN TO THE COUNCIL AS WHAT YOU'RE REQUESTING AND THEN IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE LOOK AT.

IT'S I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE LOOKED AT ANYTHING LIKE THIS BEFORE, BUT THERE'S NO HARM, NO FOUL.

I WILL BE GLAD TO LOOK AT IT.

BUT IF YOU CAN GET THAT TO ADAM, HE'S OUR CITY ADMINISTRATOR.

ADAM IS FULLY AWARE. WE'VE TRADED EMAILS BACK AND FORTH.

OKAY. FULLY AWARE OF MY CONCERNS.

THE DETAIL OF NOTIFICATION.

THE CHRONOLOGICAL DATE STAMP OF WHEN THINGS HAPPEN EVERY DAY.

WELL, IF YOU'VE GIVEN THAT TO HIM, THEN I GUESS JUST FROM A PROCESS STANDPOINT, HE CAN PROCESS THAT AND GIVE US ALL THE INFORMATION AND ALL THE DETAILS, AND THEN WE CAN GET BACK TO ADAM JUST WITH OUR RESPONSES AND WHAT WE THINK AND ADAM CAN GET BACK TO YOU.

BUT I WOULD STILL COMMUNICATE WITH ADAM.

HE'S, OUR CITY ADMINISTRATOR, AND THEN WE CAN GO FROM THERE.

I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO GO.

MORE TO DO, BUT START THERE.

THIS IS THE FIRST I'VE HEARD ABOUT IT.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

THANKS. I APPRECIATE YOUR APPROACH.

FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH.

I'VE TRIED ALL THE OTHER MEANS.

I'VE TRIED TO REACH OUT TO EVERYBODY.

I LIKE, I MEAN, A REASONABLE APPROACH TO REQUEST.

SO AND YOU PRESENT IT WELL.

CAN I SAY SOMETHING REAL QUICK? ROD TAYLOR, 54, 35 MAIN STREET, WEST, MAPLE PLAIN, MINNESOTA.

AS SOON AS I WAS NOTIFIED, IT WAS ACTUALLY A SATURDAY, THEY WERE CLOSED TILL MONDAY.

BUT AS SOON AS I WAS NOTIFIED, I WENT AND GOT IT.

SO IF I WOULD HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED WAY SOONER, I COULD HAVE WENT AND PICKED IT UP AND IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A LOT LESS FEES IN THE IMPOUND.

YEAH, I UNDERSTAND BECAUSE IT WAS SENT TO YOU AND NOT TO YOU AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT IT WAS A TOWING [INAUDIBLE].

. WE UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED AFTER THAT, THAT WE'RE HAVING AN ISSUE.

OKAY. APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ANYBODY ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO COME UP TONIGHT? KELLY GRADY, 271 GREENHILL LANE.

I WAS SITTING HERE IN THIS MEETING TODAY, AND I HAVE TO SAY THAT I'M REALLY DISAPPOINTED IN CHIEF [INAUDIBLE] IN THAT THEY'VE HAD 22 CALLS AND I'M VERY SHOCKED TO HEAR THAT YOU CANNOT PRETTY EASILY DISCUSS THE OUTLIERS FROM THE CALL TIMES BECAUSE AND FRANKLY, I THINK IT'S JUST UNTRUE BECAUSE I CAN ON 720 AT 5:18 P.M.

ON PINEHURST. THE RESPONSE TIME WAS 13 MINUTES AND 21 SECONDS.

THIS WAS A HARD CALL ON 7/28 AT 2:26 A.M.

ON LAKEVIEW PARKWAY. YOUR RESPONSE TIME WAS 33 MINUTES AND 27 SECONDS.

THIS WAS AN ALARM HOUSE.

I THINK NOT ONLY DO YOU NEED TO ANALYZE THESE OUTLIERS, AND I THINK MARIA IS RIGHT IN BALANCING THEM IN COMPARISON TO YOUR GOALS.

IT'S YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO THE CITIZENS THAT RELY ON YOU TO KEEP THEM SAFE.

[01:45:05]

PART OF THE REASON WHY YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO BE ORONO FIRE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE FASTER, IN ADDITION TO HAVING A DUTY CREW, IS BECAUSE YOUR CREW WAS GOING TO BE STATIONED IN NAVARRE, NOT ROAMING THE CITY, NOT PARKED AT LONG LAKE CARIBOU, NOT AT THE OLD PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING HERE, WHERE RIGHT NOW I JUST GOOGLE MAPPED IT.

IT'S 12 MINUTES FROM THE NAVARRE AREA.

IF THIS COUNCIL AND THIS DEPARTMENT WILL NOT SHOW THE CALL TIMES FOR THE INDIVIDUAL CALL TIMES, THIS IS NOT AN EXTREME AMOUNT OF CALLS.

WE'RE NOT TALKING PLYMOUTH NUMBERS.

THESE ARE 22 CALLS THAT HAVE HAPPENED IN ABOUT A MONTH, LESS THAN OR A LITTLE BIT OVER A MONTH.

THEN I WILL I WILL REQUEST THEM FROM THE HENNEPIN COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND I WILL POST THEM ON FIGURE OUT FIRE REGULARLY.

BUT IF YOU SIT UP HERE AND YOU CONTINUE TO PULL HIGHLIGHTS OUT FOR PUBLIC CONSUMPTION, THAT DOESN'T TELL THE CITIZENS THE WHOLE PICTURE.

I WILL BE FORCED TO DO IT MYSELF, AND I WOULD REALLY PREFER IT THAT IT COMES FROM YOU BECAUSE IT'S AT LEAST HONEST.

I CANNOT IMAGINE MY DAD DIED OF A HEART ATTACK AT THE END OF HIS DRIVEWAY.

I CANNOT IMAGINE SITTING THERE WAITING FOR A FIRE TRUCK TO SHOW UP FOR 13 MINUTES AND 27 SECONDS.

THERE'S NO EXCUSE.

YOU ALL PROMISED BETTER TO THE CITIZENS OF NAVARRE AND THEY ARE NOT GETTING IT.

22 PHONE CALLS AND YOU CAN'T PROVIDE A DETAILED REPORT.

IT'S DESPICABLE.

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO COME UP TONIGHT? YEAH, I'D LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING.

OKAY. IN RESPONSE TO THAT, AS A FIRE WIFE MYSELF AND KNOWING WHAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT DOES, I THINK THAT'S A REALLY SLIPPERY SLOPE AND TO TEAR APART THE INTEGRITY OF SOMEONE AND TO QUANTIFY THAT BY ONE CALL IS VERY DANGEROUS.

I KNOW I'M TALKING.

I GAVE YOU YOUR TIME.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO RESPOND TO ME.

ACTUALLY, THIS IS PUBLIC COMMENT.

WE RUN THE MEETING.

BUT YOU HAD YOUR THREE MINUTES.

I THINK YOU'RE ELECTED.

SO YOU GO AHEAD AND TAKE CARE OF THAT.

I APPRECIATE THAT, THANK YOU TO KNOW EVERY CALL LIKE THAT, TO KNOW WHO'S COMING TO CALLS TO KNOW THAT IN SERVICE TIMES.

AT SEVEN MINUTES. IS THAT ACCEPTABLE? I DON'T WANT TO GET TO A POINT WHERE IT SAYS THAT WE'RE IN SERVICE.

TIME IS BETTER.

NOTHING IS BETTER.

WE'RE ALL WORKING FOR THE SAME THING.

IT'S THAT IT CANNOT BE A THIS VERSUS THAT.

WE NEED TO BRING IT TOGETHER AND CALLING OUT PEOPLE LIKE THAT IS THAT WORKING TO THE GOAL? IF THE GOAL IS THAT WE ARE IMPROVING, THAT WE ARE BRINGING PEOPLE TOGETHER, IS THAT THE APPROACH? AND I DON'T THINK IT IS.

I THINK THE APPROACH IS THAT WE ARE CRITICAL OF THE NUMBERS.

I THINK WE SHOULD PUT TOGETHER A WORK SESSION AND SAY, HOW DO WE BENCHMARK? A LOT OF IT IS THE PROCESS.

IT IS NOT. I DON'T WANT TO NITPICK ON RESULTS, AND I JUST HAD THIS AT THE FAB MEETING AND IT IS AN EXERCISE OF PRACTICE.

NOT THAT IT CHANGES TO SAY THAT HOW THIS COMPARES TO A DIFFERENT SERVICE MODEL, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE APPLES TO APPLES, BUT WE'RE ALL GOING FOR THE SAME THING.

WE'RE ALL TRYING TO IMPROVE THE SERVICE MODEL.

IT'S A DIFFERENT APPROACH, BUT TO TEAR APART SOMEONE IS JUST I DON'T THINK IT'S YOU.

[INAUDIBLE] I DID THIS, I'M SORRY.

AS THOUGH SHE IS.

HE DOESN'T UNDERSTAND HER QUESTIONS.

I AM COMING HERE AND I'M CALLING OUT THE PRESENTATION, NOT THE FIREFIGHTERS.

I UNDERSTAND THE CALLS.

I THINK WE ACTUALLY HAVE EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DOING.

AND I THINK YOU'RE COMING UP HERE AND WHAT TO HER POINT IS, YOU'RE TEARING PEOPLE DOWN AND YOU SAY, WE NEED TO BRING PEOPLE [INAUDIBLE], AND ALL YOU DO IS COME UP HERE AND TEAR IT DOWN. SO I'M JUST GOING TO LEAVE IT AT THAT.

THAT'S, WHAT YOU'VE BEEN.

YOUR APPROACH APPROACHES. JUST TEAR DOWN.

THAT'S YOUR APPROACH, [INAUDIBLE] AND YOU KNOW, YOU MORE THAN ANYONE KNOW THERE'S A FACE TO THAT. SO YOU ARE THAT I'M CALLING OUT THE NUMBER.

I UNDERSTAND. BUT YOU KNOW HOW IT WORKS.

SO OKAY. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WANTS TO COME UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS TONIGHT? I'M GOING TO END PUBLIC COMMENTS.

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO COME UP?

[01:50:01]

[INAUDIBLE]. GOOD EVENING MAYOR.

EVENING. I'VE GOT AN ISSUE WITH ONE OF YOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS.

CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD FIRST? YEAH, I'M DAVID HINES, BELTWAY CONCRETE, 5780 NORTH.

OKAY. FOUR YEARS.

[INAUDIBLE] BETTER BUSINESS BUREAU, AND I'VE BEEN DOING SOME WORK WITH MATT JOHNSON.

HE'S BEEN A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT TO DEAL WITH.

WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH HIM.

MY SON WANTED TO COME UP HERE AND HE COULDN'T.

THIS WAS A TEXT HE SENT MATT, THIS IS GOING TO SEEM A LITTLE BIT REDUNDANT, BUT I WILL I'LL GET THERE PRETTY QUICKLY TO WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH THIS IS MATT. [INAUDIBLE].

YOU DIDN'T WANT TO STEP.

GOING INTO THE HOUSE, WE MET THE HEIGHT OF THE DOOR AND THE STEP IN THE HOUSE.

YOU ALSO TOLD MY DAD TO USE YOUR PROFESSIONAL OPINION.

HE SAID YOU GUYS KNOW MORE ABOUT IT THAN I DO.

YOU JUST. YOU MEET THE HOUSE, SO IT'S GOING TO WORK.

HE SAID THAT THE FLOOR DRAINS AND WORKS THE WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO AND THEN BEFORE WE POURED IT, OF COURSE, WE HAVE BEEN HAPPY TO DO ANYTHING, ANY WAY WE COULD HAVE DONE ANYTHING AS ARCHITECT WANTED.

IF HE'D HAD DRAWINGS, WE WOULD HAVE MET ALL THOSE AND WE DID ALL THE DRAIN TILE.

WE DID EVERYTHING. WE COULDN'T FINISH THE DRAIN TILE BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME PLUMBING ISSUES AND THEN TO GO ON WE FIXED THE WATER MAIN HAD TO BE FIXED OR CHANGED SO WE COULDN'T FINISH THE PLUMBING THERE.

TO MAKE A LONG STORY SHORT, WE BUILD IT OUT AND WE'RE HAVING AN ISSUE WITH COLLECTING.

HE DOESN'T LIKE THE WORK.

I GUESS THE BIGGEST CONCERN I HAVE IS A LOT OF THIS WORK WE'RE DOING.

THERE WERE NO PERMITS AND WE WOULD HAVE PLUMBERS COMING UP TO US, AND WE SAID, WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING.

I MEAN, WE'VE DONE THE DRAIN TILE, WE'VE DONE IT AS FAR AS WE COULD.

WE PUT ANOTHER TRENCH AND THEN THE PLUMBER SAYS TO US, WELL, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.

I WENT TO THE CITY. THERE'S NO PERMITS PULLED FOR ANY OF THIS STUFF.

SO THERE'S WORK GOING ON AT THE HOUSE WITH NO PERMITS, AND HE MAKES US LOOK LIKE THE BAD GUYS.

SO THEN WE DID THE GARAGE FLOOR.

WE PUT THE WIERZBNO IN, WE GOT ALL THE STUFF FOR THE IN-FLOOR HEATING.

WE PRESSURE TESTED IT, WE GOT IT READY.

HE NEVER GOT AN INSPECTION.

WELL, HE COULDN'T GET AN INSPECTION BECAUSE HE HAD NO PERMIT.

SO ANYWAY, WE DID THE WORK.

HE DIDN'T LIKE THE PITCH ON THE FLOOR, AND I GUESS I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY.

I DON'T WANT TO BEAT THIS HORSE INTO THE GROUND, BUT I THINK YOU KIND OF GOT WEEDS IN YOUR GARDEN HERE AND I THINK THE CITY COUNCIL NEEDS TO WORK WITH THAT.

I MEAN, HE PROBABLY ISN'T GOING TO PAY US BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY HE ROLLS AND FINE.

BUT I STILL THINK THE CITY HAS AN OBLIGATION TO MEET SOME OF THESE MEET SOME OF THESE DEMANDS.

YOU KNOW, HE PAID US 15 GRAND.

HE WAS EXCITED. HE PAID US AND I SAID TO JAKE, WE GOT TO WATCH THIS GUY BECAUSE I DON'T THINK HE NORMALLY PAYS BILLS.

HE HAD A $20,000 CHECK.

WE HAD THE FLOOR HALF DONE.

HE NEVER GAVE US A CHECK.

I DIDN'T GET TOGETHER WITH HIM. WE POURED THE OTHER HALF, AND THEN HE HAD A COUPLE THINGS HE DIDN'T LIKE AND I JUST THINK, YOU KNOW, THE CITY MAYBE JUST NEEDS TO GET INVOLVED AND MAYBE JUST TALK TO THIS GUY.

WELL, I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENT.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO. I APPRECIATE WE'RE OUT OF TIME.

WE APPRECIATE IT. PRETTY SICK.

I APPRECIATE YOUR ISSUES, BUT WE ARE OUT OF A TIME.

ALRIGHT. THANK YOU.

I WOULD LIKE THE CITY TO FIND OUT WHEN THE PERMITS WERE, OR I CAN GO GET THEM, FIND OUT WHEN THEY WERE PULLED, WHAT THE DATES ARE AND WHEN THE WORK WAS DONE.

THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD CHECK IN.

THANK YOU.

THANKS FOR COMING. ALL RIGHT.

WELL, I'M GOING TO END PUBLIC COMMENTS AND WE'RE GOING TO GO TO WE'LL GO TO THE MAYOR COUNCIL REPORT.

[Mayor/Council Report]

SHAME ON YOU.

HEY, THE MAYOR COUNCIL REPORT.

CAN YOU JUST TONE IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT? THANK YOU. SO I'M GOING TO ADDRESS THE DISCUSSION COUNCIL HAD AT OUR WORK SESSION ON JULY 22ND DURING COMMENTS REGARDING COSTS OF THE ORONO FIRE DEPARTMENT.

STATEMENTS WERE MADE BY MYSELF AND THE MAYOR ABOUT THE NUMBER OF FIRE DEPARTMENTS IN THE STATE OF MINNESOTA.

I REMARKED THAT THE NUMBER OF DEPARTMENTS HAS BEEN DECREASING OVER TIME.

THE MAYOR SAID THIS WAS UNTRUE.

THE REASON I BRING THIS UP IS BECAUSE IT'S A DATA POINT THAT MATTERS.

ARE THERE FEWER FIRE DEPARTMENTS IN THE STATE OF MINNESOTA THAN THERE WERE TEN YEARS AGO OR NOT.

IT'S AN EASY STATISTIC TO VERIFY ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, AND IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THREE REASONS.

ONE, WE MAKE POLICY DECISIONS LIKE THOSE ON OUR FIRE SERVICE THAT AFFECT THE LIVES OF RESIDENTS.

THE INFORMATION WE USE TO MAKE THESE DECISIONS NEEDS TO BE ACCURATE.

THIS IS TRUE IN LAND USE APPLICATIONS A FEW INCHES ONE WAY OR THE OTHER MATTERS.

THE SAME IS TRUE WITH FIRE SERVICE.

TWO I BELIEVE WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO BE TRUTHFUL IN OUR WORK.

[01:55:01]

WE AT THE DAIS NEED TO ADHERE TO THE SAME STANDARD.

THREE IT IS MORE IMPORTANT TO MAKE DECISIONS THAT ARE RIGHT RATHER THAN TO BE RIGHT.

AN ABILITY TO PIVOT AND ADDRESS INFORMATION AS IT ARISES IS KEY TO GOOD DECISION MAKING.

THIS IS NOT ABOUT WHO, IT'S ABOUT WHAT.

WHAT IS THE DATA? BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT SHOULD BE DRIVING OUR DECISIONS.

I ASK THAT THE COUNCIL CONSIDER DIRECTING STAFF TO LOCATE DATA ON THE HISTORICAL NUMBER OF FIRE DEPARTMENTS IN THE STATE OF MINNESOTA, AND WHETHER THIS STATE IS SEEING AN INCREASE OR DECREASE OVER TIME.

ONE OTHER NOTE DURING OUR DISCUSSION, THE MAYOR MENTIONED THAT OUR CITY HAS DONE YEARS OF STUDY ON THE FIRE SERVICE ISSUE.

TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT IS THE ONLY DOCUMENT THAT'S BEEN PRODUCED.

THE ASSESSMENT THAT'S BEEN DONE AND DOES NOT CONTAIN INFORMATION ON THE NUMBER OF FIRE DEPARTMENTS IN THE STATE OR WHETHER THEY'VE DECREASED OVER TIME.

SO I'M ASKING THAT THE COUNCIL ENABLE STAFF TO GATHER THIS INFORMATION AND PRESENT AT A FUTURE MEETING.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

THANK YOU.

COUNCILWOMAN? COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNSON.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

THAT WAS GOOD INFORMATION ABOUT THE TREES AND UPCOMING BIGGER PROBLEMS. SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING TO KEEP LOOKING AT WITH THAT FACILITY THAT WE HAVE.

I GUESS, YOU KNOW, ARE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT THERE.

YEAH, I THINK I THINK WE DO WANT TO KEEP OUR PULSE ON WHAT'S HAPPENING AND UNDERSTAND WHERE WE CAN IMPROVE.

I THINK THERE'S SOME CONCERN THAT PEOPLE ARE JUST USING IT FOR POLITICAL AMMUNITION AND NOT FOR THE RIGHT REASONS AND I THINK IT'S EASY TO BE HESITANT TO ENGAGE ON THIS WHEN THE MOTIVES AT TIMES SEEM TO BE THE WRONG REASONS.

BUT I THINK WHAT WE'RE ALL COMMITTED TO, ALL OF US HERE, IS TO ENSURING THE SAFETY OF OUR RESIDENTS, AND WE'RE COMMITTED TO THAT AND I THINK JAMES AS OUR LEADER IF THERE WAS SOME SORT OF FAILURE, HE'D BE REPORTING ON THAT HE'D JUST.

BECAUSE HE DOESN'T HAVE EVERY STATISTIC AVAILABLE.

THAT JUST MEANS THAT HE WASN'T ASKED TO BRING THAT TO THE MEETING.

BUT WE CAN DO A BETTER JOB AND THIS IS IMPORTANT TO PEOPLE AND HOW WE DO THAT IS TO BRING IT TO PUBLIC LIKE WE'VE BEEN DOING.

YOU GOT TO REMEMBER, WE'VE ADDED JAMES TO EVERY MEETING SINCE WE STARTED FOR THE REASON OF TRANSPARENCY, NOT TO HIDE IT.

WE'RE BRINGING HERE MAKE THEM AVAILABLE SO PEOPLE CAN ASK QUESTIONS AND WE CAN GET FEEDBACK.

SO THIS TRAILER WILL DEAL WITH THAT AND THEN, YOU KNOW, I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO RESPOND TO A VENDOR FROM MOUND WHO'S BEEN THREATENING ME FOR THREE MONTHS TO COME HERE AND PUBLICLY HUMILIATE ME FOR SOMETHING HE KNOWS TO BE NOT TRUE.

BUT WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS THE PERMITS THAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT WERE PULLED, WERE INSPECTED.

I TALKED TO STAFF ABOUT IT BECAUSE HE'S BEEN THREATENING ME HERE FOR A WHILE.

SO IT'S NOT NEW NEWS, BUT THOSE PERMITS WERE TAKEN AND PULLED AND INSPECTED IT'S AND SO I FEEL SORRY FOR YOU.

WHY DON'T YOU PAY HIM THAT? [INAUDIBLE].

BRAD. YOU ARE OUT OF ORDER.

CALM DOWN. MY GOODNESS . [INAUDIBLE]. SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S OUR TIME UP HERE RIGHT NOW.

OKAY. THIS IS. IT'S OUR TIME UP HERE.

NOW IT'S OUR TIME UP HERE.

BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S WHAT I HAVE.

THANKS. COUNCIL MEMBER CROSBY.

WE HAD A FANTASTIC TIME AT NATIONAL NIGHT OUT.

IT'S GOOD TO GO TO ALL THE NEIGHBORHOOD PARTIES AND SEE OUR CITIZENS.

GETTING TO KNOW PEOPLE ON A PERSONAL LEVEL IS REALLY FUN.

THE SINGER AT ORONO WOODS IS FRED.

FRED IS INCREDIBLE.

I THINK HE IS SENT DOWN BY THE ANGELS EVERY YEAR TO ENTERTAIN THAT COMMUNITY AND HE'S JUST A TERRIFIC GUY

[02:00:04]

WE MADE THE DECISION TO GO AHEAD WITH ORONO FIRE.

WE HAVE ORONO FIRE.

WE WILL KEEP IMPROVING THE DEPARTMENT.

I APPRECIATE ALL THE INPUT FROM THE FIRE CHIEF THAT HE KEEPS US INFORMED ON WHAT'S GOING ON AND CALLS AND SO FORTH.

IN THE FIRE BUSINESS, YOU CAN'T CHERRY PICK CALLS.

THERE'S ALWAYS BAD THINGS THAT HAPPEN.

HOUSES BURNED DOWN THE HOUSE ON WILLOW THAT WENT DOWN BEFORE WE EVEN GOT INTO SERVICE, YOU KNOW, BEFORE ORONO FIRE STARTED IN THE END OF JULY OR WHATEVER, AND CAME INTO SERVICE.

SO THAT HAD HAPPENED AND THAT'S UNFORTUNATE.

IT DOESN'T WORK OUT PERFECTLY, BUT THIS IS REALLY ABOUT MANAGING THE DOLLARS IN THE FIRE BUDGET, WHICH ARE ORONO, TAX PAYING DOLLARS AND THAT'S WHAT THE DECISION FROM MY PERSPECTIVE COMES FROM.

THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WILL CONTINUOUSLY GET BETTER.

THERE IS NOT A BUSINESS OUT THERE THAT PAYS 10% OF THE BUDGET AND RUNS THE BUSINESS.

IT DOESN'T HAPPEN.

SO WE CAN, YOU KNOW, LIVE IN DREAMLAND.

BUT THOSE THINGS ARE THEY DON'T HAPPEN.

OKAY. BUT WE WILL IMPROVE AND WE WILL PULL TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY.

WE'VE LET OUR CHIEF KNOW THAT IF LONG LAKE EVER CALLED FOR A MUTUAL AID, WOULD ORONO FIRE HELP THEM? ABSOLUTELY THEY WOULD.

WE'VE GOT FIREFIGHTERS SITTING IN THE BACK ROOM.

I COULD SEE FROM THEIR FACES THEY WOULD NEVER LET THEIR FELLOW FIREFIGHTERS DOWN AND THEY WOULD BE THERE FOR THEM IN A HEARTBEAT AND I KNOW JAMES VAN EYLL PERSONALLY AND HE WOULD NOT LET THEM DOWN EITHER AND WE WOULD MAKE SURE WE HAD STAFF THERE, JUST AS THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS WOULD HELP US OUT.

IF WE NEEDED HELP FROM EXCELSIOR MOUND OR MAPLE PLAIN, THEY WOULD BE THERE ALSO TO HELP ORONO ON A MUTUAL AID AND A BOX CALL.

SO THE, YOU KNOW, THE COMMUNITY SHOULD COME TOGETHER OVER TIME.

THE DEALS THAT WE OFFERED LONG LAKE AND I KNOW YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT EVERYTHING YOU SAY OR YOU COULD BE IN COURT.

WE'RE EXTREMELY GENEROUS.

HOPEFULLY THAT WON'T GET ME INTO TROUBLE.

SO CAN YOU JUST TELL ME WHEN I'VE PASSED IT? BUT THEY'RE GENEROUS AND IF THEY'RE NOT TAKEN, I REALLY BELIEVE THE CITIZENS OF LONG LAKE ARE GOING TO HAVE A VERY BIG TAX INCREASE IN THE UPCOMING YEARS TO COVER FIRE SERVICE, BECAUSE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ORONO AND LONG LAKE IS WE'VE ALREADY BUDGETED FOR IT.

SO WE HAVE IT IN OUR BUDGET.

WE'VE PLANNED FOR THINGS AND WE'VE DONE IT WELL, BUT WE WILL PROTECT OUR CITIZENS.

THAT IS OUR GOAL AND WE WILL CONTINUOUSLY STRIVE TO IMPROVE AND THOSE ARE MEASURABLES THAT WE GO AFTER IS TO GET BETTER EVERY DAY CALLED BEST PRACTICES, BEST PRACTICES AND IN OUR COMMUNITY, IT'S ALWAYS CITIZENS FIRST.

THANKS, COUNCILMEMBER VEACH SURE GIVE THE HIGHLIGHT OF WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS.

SPECIAL THANKS TO CHIEF AND YOUR TEAM FOR A VERY SUCCESSFUL NATIONAL NIGHT OUT.

IT WAS SUPER FUN AND IT'S WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS ABOUT.

IT WAS I SAW A BUNDT CAKE WAS GIVEN TO STAFF, AND I WAS LIKE, THAT'S THE CUTEST THING EVER, AND NOW I NEED TO DO THAT.

BUT IT WAS A GREAT NIGHT.

CONNECTING WITH COMMUNITY.

HEARING ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE AND KNOWING WHAT WE SHOULD FOCUS ON CORN DAYS WAS LAST WEEKEND.

IT WAS GREAT WEATHER AGAIN, GREAT COMMUNITY AND A GREAT SUCCESS.

I'M ALREADY EXCITED.

SECOND SATURDAY IN AUGUST NEXT YEAR.

SAME TIME, SAME PLACE.

A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED IN THE BUDGET AND AREN'T SURE HOW TO GET THAT.

THE PRELIMINARY BUDGET WORK SESSION IS SEPTEMBER 9TH.

IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN LEARNING MORE ABOUT THE CITY'S BUDGET THAT'S WHERE WE DO OUR DISCUSSION.

I'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT A GROUP OF ORONO WOMEN IN LEADERSHIP.

THEY HAD THEIR RALLY TODAY, AND THEY HAVE A LOT OF GREAT INFORMATION COMING OUT AND DRIVES AND WAYS TO BUILD COMMUNITY.

IT WAS STARTED BY GRADUATES OF THE HIGH SCHOOL LAST YEAR, AND THEY'RE TRYING TO GET ON THEIR FEET AND MAKE THIS A BIGGER COMMUNITY PROGRAM.

SO IF YOU WANT MORE INFORMATION, LOOK UP THE ORONO WOMEN IN LEADERSHIP AND THEN THE LAST ONE, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANKS AGAIN TO THE LION CLUB.

[02:05:08]

I THINK THAT'S A IT'S SOMETHING TO BE REALLY PROUD OF.

SO THAT'S IT.

AWESOME. WELL, I ALSO WAS AT THE NATIONAL NIGHT OUT, AND ME AND COREY AND RICHARD MADE THE ROUNDS TOGETHER AND IT WAS A BLAST.

WE HAD A GREAT TIME AT STONE BAY.

GET EATEN HOMEMADE CAKE OVER THERE.

ORONO WOODS WAS FABULOUS, AS USUAL WITH FRED, THE SINGER, AND TREY, WHO WAS COOKING ALL THE BURGERS FOR EVERYBODY.

IT WAS JUST AMAZING.

I WENT OVER TO HACKBERRY AND HAD A GOOD TIME TALKING TO JIM DILLMAN AND ALL THE OTHER PEOPLE THAT WERE THERE WAS JUST WAS ABSOLUTELY FUN.

WE MADE IT OVER TO FOX HILL AGAIN.

THEY WERE HAD A GREAT TIME OVER THERE.

IT WAS NICE TO SEE EVERYBODY OUT.

I MEAN, I REMEMBER JUST WASN'T THAT LONG AGO IN COVID WHEN NOBODY WAS OUT.

SO IT WAS NICE TO SEE EVERYBODY OUT MINGLING SAYING HI.

YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT THE PICKLEBALL PEOPLE SAY SOCIAL ISOLATION IS BEEN A BIG PROBLEM IN COVID AND OBVIOUSLY SINCE THEN AND THIS IS WHAT HELPS GET PEOPLE OUT AND WE HAD OURS IN OUR BACKYARD AND WE HAD 30 PEOPLE OVER AND BY THE TIME I GOT DONE AND GOT HOME ABOUT 8:30 FROM GETTING DROPPED OFF BY THE CHIEF AT THE BACK AT CITY HALL, WE STILL HAD TEN PEOPLE BACK PLAYING BADMINTON, SITTING AROUND TALKING, AND THAT'S WHAT NEIGHBORHOODS ARE ALL ABOUT, THAT'S FOR SURE.

I DID GET TO EXPERIENCE CORN DAYS.

THAT WAS A BLAST. GOT TO WALK IN THE PARADE.

I GOT TO WATCH MARIA RUNNING AROUND CRAZY BECAUSE SHE WAS THE ONE RUNNING CORN DAYS FOR THE CHURCH OF SAINT GEORGE AND DOING A FABULOUS JOB OVER THERE.

SO THEY DEFINITELY HAVE THE RIGHT PERSON RUNNING THAT PLACE AND THEY HAD GREAT BRATS, HAD GREAT MEXICAN CORN CAME AND GOT A BEER FROM YOUR HUSBAND WHO WAS POURING BEERS IN THE BEER TENT AND, I KNOW THE IV'S WERE IN THERE, TOO, POURING BEER.

SO THAT WAS AN ABSOLUTE BLAST TO BE, TO SEE ALL THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE COMMUNITY OUT AND ABOUT.

WE ALSO HAD A COUPLE OTHER THINGS GOING ON.

ME AND ADAM MET WITH OUR MET COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVE, DOCTOR TYRONE CARTER, WHO IS A RELATIVELY NEW TO THE JOB.

SO HE'S OUT HERE GETTING TO KNOW EVERYBODY.

WE DID ASK HIM A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS ABOUT HIS COUNTY ROAD 51 PROJECT THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT EARLIER.

THAT'S AMONG SOME INDIAN REMAINS, ETC.

SO THEY'RE KIND OF DOING THAT AND HE WAS GOING TO GET BACK TO US AND KIND OF MORE OF THE TIMING, BECAUSE IT'S OBVIOUSLY A SLOWED DOWN AND IT'S YOU CAN ONLY GO ONE DIRECTION.

SO I GOT TO GO ALL THE WAY AROUND THE BAR OR TAKE THE BYPASS HOME EVERY TIME.

SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT FOR ME AS WELL.

SO I SEE IT EVERY DAY.

SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET MORE ANSWERS FROM THEM FOR UPDATES THAT WE CAN PUT ON OUR WEBSITE.

WE ALSO MET WITH ME AND ADAM MET WITH THE HENNEPIN COUNTY COMMISSIONER, HEATHER EDELSON, ONLINE.

THAT WAS WE DID AN ONLINE MEETING ON THAT ONE, JUST KIND OF GETTING TO KNOW US AND WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO US AND HERE IN ORONO AND WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE A LOT OF COUNTY ROADS HERE.

SO WE TALKED ABOUT ALL THE GREAT COUNTY ROADS AND TO MAKE SURE WE KEEP THEM UP AND THEY'RE DOING A GREAT JOB AND WE'VE HAD A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH HENNEPIN COUNTY AND ALL THAT STUFF, AND ALSO THAT HENNEPIN COUNTY.

WE ALSO DO A LOT OF GRANTS WITH THE SPORT, GRANTS FOR ALL THE SPORT COURTS AND ALL THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR PARKS.

AND SO WE SAID THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT WITH ALL THE THINGS WE'RE DOING, INCLUDING PICKLEBALL.

IN FACT, I EVEN TOLD HER VERY SPECIFICALLY THAT, YOU KNOW, PICKLEBALL IS THE FASTEST GROWING AND THEY NEED TO LOOK AT THEIR YOUTH SPORT GRANTS AND PUT PICKLEBALL IN THERE BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A LARGE CONTINGENT.

SO SHE WAS GOING TO LOOK AT THAT.

WELL, WE'LL SEE IF SHE DOES BUT AT LEAST KIND OF GAVE HER SOME MORE OF THAT INFORMATION AND I THINK AS MORE PICKLEBALL COURTS ARE BUILT ALL OVER THE PLACE, I THINK THAT'S JUST GOING TO BE MORE AND MORE PREVALENT OUT THERE THAT PEOPLE ARE SEEING KIND OF WHAT'S GOING ON.

HAD FOUR BIRTHDAYS IN MY HOUSE IN THE LAST WEEK.

SO WE'RE BUSY. A LOT OF CAKE.

NO ONE SAYS NO ONE SAYS I'VE MISSED ANY MEALS LATELY, SO.

BUT THREE OF THEM WERE BIG ONES.

I TURNED 60, WE WERE AT THE NARROWS, AND THAT WAS AN ABSOLUTE BLAST.

STANDING ROOM ONLY FOR HOURS AND WE JUST WE THAT WAS AN INCREDIBLE TIME AND MY DAUGHTER TURNED 16 THE NEXT DAY AND SO SHE RAN THE CORN DAYS 5K.

IS THAT WHAT THEY CALLED IT? SO SHE RAN THE FIVE-K AND DID, I THINK, 20 MINUTES? SHE DID. FABULOUS AND OUR GERMAN EXCHANGE STUDENT THAT WE HAD FIVE YEARS AGO CAME TO VISIT US FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS.

SO SHE DECIDED THAT SHE WAS GOING TO RUN THE 5K TOO.

AND SHE'S NEVER DONE ONE OF THOSE.

SO. BUT SHE MADE IT SO THAT WAS MORE THAN PROBABLY I COULD DO.

HERS WAS ONE OF THE BIRTHDAYS, TOO.

SHE TURNED 22.

MY OTHER DAUGHTER, MORGAN, TURNED 18, SO THAT'S OBVIOUSLY A BIG ONE AND BECOME AN ADULT.

SO WE'VE GOT A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON IN OUR HOUSE, AND ESPECIALLY WITH THE ONE THAT'S TURNING 16.

SHE TAKES THE DRIVER'S TEST TOMORROW, SO MIGHT GET THE LAST DRIVER IN OUR HOUSE TO BE DRIVING HERSELF TO TRACK PRACTICE EVERY DAY AT 8:00 IN THE MORNING INSTEAD OF ME.

I DO AGREE WITH EVERYBODY HERE REGARDING THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

WE'VE HAD JAMES HERE EVERY SINGLE MEETING TO BRING INFORMATION TO KEEP HIM IN THE SPOTLIGHT TO SHOW WHAT'S GOING ON AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO BRING MORE INFORMATION AND ALL

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NOBODY ELSE IS DOING THAT, THAT'S FOR SURE.

BUT WE ARE GOING TO DO THAT AND WE ARE PROVIDING FABULOUS SERVICE AND ALL THE RESIDENTS I'VE BEEN TALKING TO AND ALL THE THINGS I'VE BEEN DOING AROUND THE COMMUNITY, THEY ARE ABSOLUTELY ECSTATIC THAT WE GOT THIS UP AND RUNNING.

SO MORE TO COME.

SO I'M GOING TO LEAVE YOU WITH A COUPLE QUOTES AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE RELATED TO PARADES.

SINCE I GOT TO BE IN A PARADE THIS LAST WEEKEND.

THE FIRST ONE IS FROM MIKE DITKA.

IF ANYBODY REMEMBERS IRON MIKE AND HE SAYS, IF YOU'RE NOT IN THE PARADE, YOU'RE WATCHING THE PARADE, AND THAT'S LIFE.

SO BASICALLY THAT MEANS GET UP AND DO SOMETHING AND WHEN IT RAINS ON YOUR PARADE, LOOK UP RATHER THAN DOWN, BECAUSE WITHOUT THE RAIN THERE WOULD BE NO RAINBOW.

SO WITH THAT MOTION TO ADJOURN.

SO MOVED. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE. HAVE A GOOD NIGHT, EVERYBODY.

HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.